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CITY of ANDOVER
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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - NOVEMBER 28, 2000
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was
called to order by Acting Chair Larry Dalien on November 28,2000,7:00 p.m., at the
Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard Nw, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present:
Acting Chair Larry Dalien, Tim Kirchoff, Dean Daninger,
Maynard Apel, and Douglas Falk.
Commissioners absent:
Also present:
Chairperson Jay Squires and Mark Hedin.
Community Development Director, Dave Carlberg
City Planner, John Hinzman
Zoning Administrator, Jeff Johnson
Assistant City Engineer, Todd Haas
Planning Intern, Dan Taylor
Others
Approvalo/minutes.
November 14, 2000
Motion by Falk, seconded by Kirchoff, the minutes be approved as presented. Motion
carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Squires and Hedin), andl-present (Apel) vote.
PRESENTATION: CHESTERTON COMMONS NORTH 2ND ADDITION - 39
SINGLE FAMILY LOTS ON 14.04 ACRES - PRESENTATION BY ASHFORD
DEVELOPMENT.
Community Development Director Dave Carlberg gave a location of the Chesterton
Commons North 2nd Addition Development to the Commission. He explained that they
are proposing 39 single-family lots on 14.04 acres.
Pete Raatikka, representing Ashford Development, briefly explained the plat before the
Commission. He mentioned that access to the development will be via Hanson Blvd. and
161 51 Avenue. He offered to answer any questions from the Commissioners.
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PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT - CHESTERTON COMMONS NORTH
2ND ADDITION -ASHFORD DEVELOPMENT - 39 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS ON
14.04 ACRES - SW 1/4 OF SECTION 14.
Mr. Carlberg explained thatthe proposed preliminary plat is currently zoned R-4, Single
Family Urban, therefore rezoning of this property is not necessary. He stated that the
municipal sanitary sewer and water is proposed to serve the site, in addition the plat is
currently within the Metropolitan Urban Service Area. He also mentioned that a
Comprehensive Plan Amendment is not necessary.
Mr. Carlberg explained that the proposed subdivision consists of 39 single-family
residential lots on 14.041 acres. He stated that the developer and/or owner are
responsible to obtain all necessary permits associated with the plat. He went on to review
the comments made by the Andover Review Committee as stated in the staff report. Mr.
Carlberg explained that the Park and Recreation Commission will be reviewing the plat at
their December 7,2000 meeting.
Acting Chair Dalien questioned if the sidewalk will be maintained year round. Mr.
Carlberg stated that it is the City's intention to maintain the sidewalk year round.
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Commissioner Daninger questioned ifthere would be some type of traffic control at the
intersection of 161 st Avenue and Crane Street. Mr. Carlberg stated that there would be a
stop sign at the intersection of 161st Avenue and Crane Street.
Commissioner Daninger mentioned that the main concern will be the traffic from east to
west, and the difficulty in controlling the speed. Mr. Carlberg stated that the City is
trying to jog the streets enough to help reduce the speed of traffic.
Commissioner Falk questioned ifthere are any plans for development on the NW comer
of Hanson Blvd. and 161 5t Avenue. Mr. Carlberg stated that it is possible something will
develop in the next couple years.
Motion by Daninger, seconded by Falk, to open the public hearing at 7:13 p.m. Motion
carried on as-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Squires and Hedin) vote.
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John Swisher, 1433 161't Avenue, stated concerns regarding the proposed land change on
the south side of Constance Blvd. where it is proposed Crane street will have a new
northbound exit. He explained that his house is on the north side of Constance across
from the proposed exit, which will instantly reduce their privacy if the exit is put in place.
He stated that lights would constantly shine in their home when cars enter onto
Constance, especially when turning eastbound. He stated that they have no problem with
the development taking place, however would prefer this access doesn't take place and if
so would request a privacy fence with materials being paid by the City.
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Mr. Carlberg stated that he would look into the request. He mentioned that he can't
picture exactly where the house sits, and therefore will need to examine the situation
further.
Mr. Swisher suggested the possibility of a creating a cul-de-sac instead.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Daninger, to close the public hearing at 7:19 p.m.
Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Squires and Hedin) vote.
Commissioner Apel stated that Mr. Swisher has some legitimate concerns and suggested
the developer possibly make some concessions.
Commissioner Daninger stated that he feels comfortable with the plat and will
recommend approval.
Acting Chair Dalien stated that he also feels comfortable with the plat and suggested staff
work with Mr. Swisher and the developer to find the best solution to Mr. Swisher's
concerns.
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Commissioner Kirchoff also understood Mr. Swisher's concerns, however he mentioned
that it is also important to maintain additional entrances to the developments for safety
reasons.
Commissioner Falk questioned if Mr. Swisher's concerns need to be included in the
resolution. Mr. Carlberg stated that they don't need to be included, however they will be
brought before the Council.
Motion by Falk, seconded by Kirchoff, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. _-00 approving the Chesterton Commons North 2nd Addition
Preliminary Plat by Ashford Development, located in Section 14, Township 32, Range 24
of Anoka County, Minnesota. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, -nays, 2-absent (Squires and
Hedin) vote.
Acting Chair Dalien stated that this item would be considered at the December 19, 2000
City Council meeting.
PRESENTATION: WOODLAND OAKS - 73 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS-
PRESENTATION BY WOODLAND DEVELOPMENT.
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Mr. Carlberg introduced the Woodland Oaks Development as having 73 single-family
lots on 38.93 acres. He called on Byron Weslund, a representative from the Woodland
Development to present the proposal.
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Mr. Weslund explained that they are requesting four separate issues to be approved by the
Commission. He listed those items while explaining the reasoning behind each request.
He mentioned that he has met with staff a number of times on the preliminary plat, in
addition to meeting with the residents in the area.
PUBLIC HEARING: COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT (CPA 00-08) -
CHANGE LAND USE DISTRICT DESIGNATION FROM RR, RESIDENTIAL
RURAL TO RU, RESIDENTIAL URBAN SINGLE FAMILY - 20 ACRES.
PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING (REZ 00-06) - REZONE PROPERTY FROM RI,
SINGLE FAMILY RURAL TOR-4, SINGLE FAMILY URBAN-40ACRES.
PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT - WOODLAND OAKS - 73 SINGLE
FAMILY LOTS ON APPROXIMATELY 40 ACRES - SE 1/4 OF SECTION 14.
PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT (SUP 00-14) -AREA
IDENTIFICATION SIGN - 21XX 161ST AVENUE NW.
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City Planner John Hinzman explained that the Commission is being asked to review the
Comprehensive Plan Amendment as requested by the Woodland Development in the SW
1/4 of Section 14. The amendment would include the current Metropolitan Urban Service
Boundary to incorporate an additional 38.93 acres and a change in the land use district
designation from RR, Residential Rural to RU, Residential Urban Single Family on
approximately 20 acres.
Mr. Hinzman explained that the Comprehensive Plan Amendment is limited to the
northern 20 acres of the Woodland Oaks site, the southern 20 acres is presently
designated RU, Residential Urban Single Family. He stated that the site is within the
planned Metropolitan Urban Service Area expansion as depicted in the 2020 Draft
Comprehensive Plan, and is designated for development in the 2000-2005 time frame.
He stated that the site is adjacent to the existing MUSA. He also mentioned that all
adjacent areas south of 161 st Avenue are designated for urban development between
2000-2005.
Mr. Hinzman stated that the Commission is being asked to rezone land from R-l Single
Family Rural to R-4, Single Family Urban. He stated that the rezoning would conform to
the existing and draft Comprehensive Plans upon approval of the concurrent
. Comprehensive Plan Amendment.
Mr. Carlberg explained that also up for approval is the preliminary plat. He stated that
,_) municipal sanitary sewer and water is proposed to serve the site. He mentioned that the
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developer would be responsible to obtain all necessary permits associated with the site
development.
Mr. Carlberg reviewed the comments of the Andover Review Committee. He stated that
some of the comments are a 10' wide bikeway/walkway trail is planned along the south
side of 161 'I Avenue NW, and an internal trail in the central part ofthe development. He
stated that no grading is to commence on the site until the City Council and the City
Engineer signs and approves the Grading, Drainage and Erosion Control Plan and a
preconstruction meeting has been held.
Planning Intern Dan Taylor explained that the developer is also requesting a Special Use
Permit to allow for the construction of an Area Identification Sign on the property located
at 12XX 161'1 Avenue NW, Lot 1, Block 8. He stated that the sign would measure 32'
square feet and would consist of a 4 'X8' stone sign supported by two brick pillars.
Commissioner Kirchoff questioned if the issues that were of concern last spring have
been resolved. Mr. Carlberg explained that there was an issue with the sketch plan last
spring, however the developer has made corrections to the plat. He stated that the
temporary cul-de-sac that was proposed will now go through.
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Motion by Daninger, seconded by Kirchoff, to open the four public hearings relating to
the Woodland Oaks Development at 7:38 p.m. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-
absent (Squires and Hedin) vote.
Mary McCartney, 15689 Yellowpine Street NW, questioned how the road would affect
her property. She mentioned that she would prefer it is laid out in advance to avoid any
confusion or problems.
Mr. Weslund explained that the cul-de-sac that was built only for temporary reasons. He
stated that her driveway would be matched to the existing streets, which is stated in the
contract. He mentioned that they are not proposing any grading to take place on Ms.
McCartney's property.
Acting Chair Dalien questioned if it would be necessary to lengthen her driveway.
Assistant City Engineer Todd Haas stated that the developer will work with the City to do
whatever needs to be done to fix her driveway so it matches the existing street.
Motion by Apel, seconded by Kirchoff, to close the four public hearings relating to the
Woodland Oaks Development at 7:42 p.m. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent
(Squires and Hedin) votes.
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Commissioner Daninger questioned Ms. McCartney's concerns. Ms. McCartney
explained that she just wants to make sure it is included in the Comprehensive Plan, and
that there are no issues that will come up in the future.
Acting Chair Dalien stated that staff and the developer are aware of the issues and have
every intention to work out those concerns.
Motion by Apel, seconded by Daninger, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. R _-00, amending the Comprehensive Land Use Plan for Woodland
Development Corporation for Woodland Oaks Located in the SW 1/4 of Section 14.
Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Squires and Hedin) vote.
Motion by Daninger, seconded by Apel, to recommend to the City Council approval of
the amendment to Ordinance No.8, Section 6.03, Zoning District Map of the City of
Andover, to rezone the property from R-l, Single Family Rural to R-4, Single Family
Urban. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Squires and Hedin) vote.
Motion by Falk, seconded by Kirchoff, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. _-00, approving the Preliminary Plat of Woodland Oaks, requested by
Woodland Development, located in Section 14, Township 32, Range 24, Anoka County,
~_ ) Minnesota. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Squires and Hedin) vote.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Daninger, to recommend to the City Council approval
of Resolution No. R _-00 granting the Special Use Permit request of Woodland Oaks to
allow for the construction of an Area Identification Sign pursuant to Ordinance No.8,
Section 8.07 (D)(2)(H), on the property located at l2XX l6lst. Avenue NW, Lot 1,
Block 8, Woodland Oaks, subject to the following conditions:
1. That the Special Use Permit be subject to an annual review by staff.
2. That the applicant executes a written agreement for the maintenance of the sign.
3. That the applicant obtains a sign permit prior to erection of the sign.
4. That the Special Use Permit be subject to a sunset clause as defined in Ordinance
No.8, Section 5.03 (D).
Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Squires and Hedin) vote.
Acting Chair Dalien stated that the four issues related to the Woodland Oaks
Development would be considered at the December 19, 2000 City Council meeting.
PRESENTATION: WHITE PINE ESTATES - 67 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND 34
TOWNHOME UNITS ON 66.54 ACRES - SW 1/4 OF SECTION 14 -
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Mr. Carlberg introduced White Pine Estates as having 67 single family lots and 34
townhome units on 66.54 acres. He stated that the development is located in the SW Vi of
Section 14. He introduced Horst Graser, representing Gold Nugget Development, to
present the proposal.
Mr. Graser explained that they are requesting approval from the Commission on four
different issues. He explained each request and the reason for it. He stated that the
development consists of 66.54 acres, with 1/3 of it being wetlands. He mentioned that
the overall density is about 1.5 units per acre. Mr. Graser briefly reviewed the
landscaping plan for the development which will consist of a large amount of planting in
addition to the trees that would be saved along the railroad tracks. He stated that the plan
will consist of four storm water management ponds, all placed throughout the site. The
price of the homes will rage from $145,000 for the twinhomes to $175,000 to $250,000
for the single-family homes.
Commissioner Kirchoff questioned if the twinhomes would be under an association. Mr.
Graser stated that indeed the twinhomes would be under an association.
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Commissioner Falk questioned if there will be parks nearby the development. Mr.
Carlberg explained that what is being looked at is a regional neighborhood park between
Woodland Oaks and Chesterton Commons North 2nd Addition. He stated that the City
Council has encouraged the Park Commission to look at the possibility of larger parks
instead of smaller neighborhood parks.
PUBLIC HEARING: COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT (CPA 00-09) -
CHANGE THE LAND USE DISTRICT DESIGNATION FROM RU, RESIDENTIAL
URBAN SINGLE FAMILY TO RM, RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY-
APPROXIMATELY 17 ACRES.
PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING (REZ 00-07) - REZONE PROPERTY FROM R-I,
SINGLE FAMILY RURAL TO M-l, MULTIPLE DWELLING - LOW DENSITY
AND R-4, SINGLE FAMILY URBAN.
PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT (SUP 00-15) - PLANNED UNIT
DEVELOPMENT.
PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT - WHITE PINE ESTATES - 67
SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND 34 TOWNHOME UNITS - 66.54 ACRES - SW 1/4 OF
SECTION 14.
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Mr. Hinzman explained that the Commission is being asked to review an amendment to
the Comprehensive Plan to change the land use district designation from RU, Residential
Urban Single Family to RM, Residential Medium Density on approximately 17 acres
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owned by Gold Nugget Development. He stated that the site is within the planned
Metropolitan Urban Service Area expansion as depicted in the 2020 Draft
Comprehensive Plan, and is designated for development in the 2000-2005 time frame.
Mr. Hinzman stated that the development of the proposed Woodland Oaks site is
necessary to extend urban services to White Pine Estates. He explained that all adjacent
areas south of 161" Avenue are designated for urban development between 2000-2005.
He stated that White Pine Estates is being presented as a planned unit development. The
maximum density for the RM, Residential Medium Density district is 6 units per acre.
He also mentioned that the BNSF railroad tracks provide separation to the adjacent rural
residential areas.
Mr. Hinzman explained that the developer is requesting to rezone approximately 49.54
acres from R-l, Single Family Rural to R-4, Single Family Urban and approximately 17
acres from R-l, Single Family Rural to M-l, Multiple Dwelling-Low Density. He stated
that the rezoning would conform the existing and draft Comprehensive Plans upon
approval of the concurrent Comprehensive Plan Amendment.
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Mr. Carlberg explained that a Special Use Permit is being requested for a Planned Unit
Development to develop a mixed-use residential development consisting of 67 single
family residential lots and 34 townhome units on 66.54 acres. He stated that included in
the staff report is the "Development Standards" for the proposed development. He
mentioned that the Commission should be aware that the developer is not proposing a
density increase above the zoning district requirement.
Mr. Carlberg stated that the Preliminary Plat is also up for approval. He stated that the
developer will be responsible to obtain all necessary permits associated with the site. He
went on to review the comments made by the Andover Review Committee. Some of the
comments made were to include a 10' wide bikeway/walkway trail along the south side
of 161" Avenue NW, and an internal trail along the street section of Vale Street NW from
161 51 Avenue to the south border of the plat. He stated that the no grading is to
commence on the site until the City Council and the City Engineer sign and approve the
Grading, Drainage and Erosion Control Plan, and a preconstruction meeting has been
held.
Commissioner Apel questioned if the developer has requested a Special Use Permit for an
Area Identification Sign. Mr. Carlberg stated that they are not going to have a sign.
Commissioner Daninger questioned the reason a variance is being requested as part of the
PUD. Mr. Carlberg explained that the purpose of Ordinance No. 205 was more for single
family homes and not townhomes.
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Commissioner Daninger questioned if the intent of the twinhomes is to be different so
they don't appear to look the same. Mr. Carlberg stated that to his understanding the
twinhomes are to look the same.
Mr. Graser explained that the exterior of the twinhomes will vary a little. Mr. Carlberg
stated that staff will have the developer prepare some colored elevations to show exactly
what the exterior appearance would look like.
Commissioner Daninger questioned if the PUD Ordinance being referenced in the staff
report is the amended version. Mr. Carlberg stated that what is being referenced is the
existing PUD Ordinance, since the new one has not yet been publicized.
Motion by Apel, seconded by Daninger, to open the four public hearings relating to the
White Pine Estates Development at 8:07 p.m. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-
absent (Squires and Hedin) vote.
Janie Hemmelgarn, 1054 16151 Avenue, questioned how the rezoning will affect her
property. She questioned if her property would still be zoned R-l. Mr. Carlberg stated
that the rezoning would not affect her property.
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Ms. Hemmelgarn questioned how this development will affect hers, especially when it
comes time that they decide to develop their land. Mr. Carlberg explained that staff
typically has the developer sketch adjacent properties to give an idea of how it could be
developed, however it is only a sketch and it is possible to make modifications.
Mr. Haas mentioned to Ms. Hemmelgarn that if she has something that she is interested
in doing, it might be wise to discuss it with staff so the road wouldn't have to be tore up
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Ms. Hemmelgarn stated that this past summer it was stated by City Council members that
there needs to be a barrier between the land since they have horses. She stated that
they've discussed it with the developer, however a temporary easement is needed and as a
result we would have to move our fence. She stated concerns that if this were to happen
her fence would not be up to code with the Equestrian Council. She mentioned concerns
about how much the development would end up costing them.
Ms. Hemmelgarn questioned if the development farther west would be completed first so
that the traffic isn't congested near their property. Mr. Carlberg explained that everything
will be taking place at the same time and should be completed by next fall.
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Mr. Graser stated that he has met with Ms. Hemmelgarn and has requested that when the
road is constructed that there be an easement where a portion of the fence would be
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removed. He stated that another way to look at it is that they are getting a free road. He
mentioned that they do have a number of options available to them.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Falk, to close the four public hearings relating to the
White Pine Estates Development at 8: 17 p.m. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-
absent (Squires and Hedin) vote.
Acting Chair Dalien questioned staff as to how situations are typically worked out such
as this where the adjacent landowner has issues with the developer. He questioned if it is
normal for the City to get involved. Mr. Carlberg stated that because it is outside the plat
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Commissioner Daninger questioned who would be assessed if the City were putting in the
street. Mr. Carlberg stated that the property owners benefiting from the street would be
assessed.
Commissioner Daninger stated that he is comfortable forwarding this on to the City
Council, since it appears that the developer and the landowner are already working out
the issues at hand.
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Motion by Falk, seconded by Kirchoff, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. R_-OO, amending the Comprehensive Land Use Plan for Gold Nugget
Development for White Pine Estates, located in the SE Y. of Section 14. Motion carried
on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Squires and Hedin) vote.
Motion by Daninger, seconded by Falk, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Ordinance No. 8_ an ordinance amending Ordinance No.8, Section 6.03, Zoning
District Map of the City of Andover. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent
(Squires and Hedin) vote.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Dalien, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. R_-OO granting the Special Use Permit requested by Gold Nugget
Development for a Planned Unit Development to develop a mixed use residential
development consisting of sixty-seven single family urban residential lots and thirty-four
townhomes to be known as White Pine Estates subdivision. Motion carried on a 5-ayes,
O-nays, 2-absent (Squires and Hedin) vote.
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Motion by Apel, seconded by Daninger, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. R_-OO approving the Preliminary Plat of the Planned Unit Development
of White Pine Estates by Gold Nugget Development, located in Section 14, Township 32,
Range 24, Anoka County, Minnesota. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent
(Squires and Hedin) vote.
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Acting Chair Dalien stated that the four issues related to the White Pine Estates
Development would be considered at the December 19, 2000 City Council meeting.
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Acting Chair Dalien called a recess at 8:23 p.m.
Acting Chair DaIien reconvened the meeting at 8:30 p.m.
PRESENATION: AZTEC ESTATES - 48 TOWNHOMES AND 2 SINGLE FAMILY
LOTS - PRESENTATION BY HARSTAD COMPANY.
Mr. Carlberg introduced Aztec Estates as a development consisting of 48 townhomes and
2 single-family lots on approximately 29 acres. He called on Marty Harstad, a
representative from the Harstad Company, to present the proposal.
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Mr. Harstad stated that as part of the development process they are proposing to complete
the extension of Woodbine Street to be an emergency access only, since most residents
did not want it extending out onto Bunker Lake Blvd. He stated that the twinhomes
would be part of an association, which would maintain the exterior of the buildings in
addition to the landscaping and maintenance of roads and sidewalks._ He displayed a
visual map showing the exterior ofthe buildings. He mentioned that included in the
packet is information that shows the areas of tree preservation, in addition to trees they
will be planting.
Mr. Harstad stated that they've studied the hydrology of the site extensively with staff,
the watershed district, and engineers and are confident this development will work on the
site. He stated that included in the development will be a storm water pond. Parking will
be available on site for the residents, however there will be no parking allowed on the
street.
Acting Chair Dalien questioned what the price range would be for the twinhomes. Mr.
Harstad stated that the twinhomes would range anywhere from $220,000 to $300,000.
PUBLIC HEARING: COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT (CPA 00-10) _
CHANGE LAND USE PLAN FROM RU, RESIDENTIAL URBAN SINGLE TO RM,
RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY.
PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING (REZ 00-08) - REZONE PROPERTY FROM R-4,
SINGLE FAMILY URBAN TO M-I, MULTIPLE FAMILY, LOWDENSITY.
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PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT (SUP 00-16) - PLANNED UNIT
DEVELOPMENT.
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PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT -AZTEC ESTATES - 48
TOWN HOMES AND 2 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS - 30 ACRES - SW 1/4 OF SECTION
29.
Mr. Hinzman explained that the Commission is being asked to review an amendment to
the Comprehensive Plan to change the land use district designation from RU, Residential
Urban Single Family to RM, Residential Medium Density on approximately 29 acres. He
stated that the site is buffered by significant wetlands on the west and east. Plantings
have been included to buffer the site to Northglen 5th Addition to the south. He
mentioned that the Comprehensive Plan Amendment does not include the +/- 1.3 acres
single-family lot area.
Mr. Hinzman stated that the site is within the planned Metropolitan Urban Service Area
expansion as depicted in the 2020 Draft Comprehensive Plan, and is designated for
development in the 2000-2005 time frame. He stated that Aztec Estates is being
presented as a planned unit development. He also mentioned that the maximum density
for the RM, Residential Medium Density district is 6 units per acre.
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Mr. Hinzman explained that the developer is also requesting to rezone the land from R-4,
Single Family Urban to M- I, Multiple Dwelling-Low Density. He stated that the
rezoning would conform to the existing and draft Comprehensive Plans upon approval of
the concurrent Comprehensive Plan Amendment.
Mr. Carlberg explained that they are also requesting approval ofthe Special Use Permit
for a Planned Unit Development to develop a mixed use residential development
consisting of 48 townhomes and two single family residential lots. He stated that
included in the staff report is the "Development Standards" for the proposed
development. He mentioned that these standards are variations to the M- I zoning district
standards. He also mentioned that the developer is not proposing a density increase
above the zoning district requirement.
Mr. Carlberg stated that also up for approval is the Preliminary Plat. He stated that the
developer is responsible to obtain all necessary permits associated with the site. He
reviewed before the Commission the comments made by the Andover Review
Committee. Some of those comments were to require a lift station on the site. Also a 10'
wide trail is planned along the north side of Bunker Lake Blvd., in addition they
recommended an internal trail to nUl through the development. He stated that no grading
is to commence on the site until such time as the City Council approves and the City
Engineer signs the Grading, Drainage and Erosion Control Plan.
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Commissioner Kirchoff questioned if the highway department has reviewed the access to
116 at all. Mr. Carlberg stated that they have not yet reviewed it, but staff will bring
those comments forward soon.
Mr. Haas stated that he recently had a discussion with the traffic engineer who spoke of
concerns regarding the access coming out onto Bunker Lake Blvd. He mentioned that it
becomes a decision that the City has to make.
Commissioner Falk questioned if a variance would be needed on Aztec Street. Mr.
Carlberg stated that a variance does need to be included in the resolution for the
preliminary plat since it exceeds the maximum length requirement.
Acting Chair Dalien questioned if the drive off of Aztec Street would be private. Mr.
Carlberg mentioned that the review committee has suggested it be a public street
connecting Woodbine to Bunker Lake Blvd., however the residents would prefer it to be
private and therefore that is what is being proposed.
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Commissioner Daninger questioned the safety issues on Bunker Lake Blvd. He
questioned ifthere are turning lanes. Mr. Carlberg stated that there are no turning lanes
and that there is no median on Bunker, therefore it is currently open.
Mr. Haas stated that it is possible that the county could come back and recommend or
even require that turning lanes are installed on Bunker. He stated that at this point the
City is just waiting for their comments.
Commissioner Daninger questioned if staff and the fire department are comfortable with
having a private drive. He questioned whether or not it would be wide enough to handle
a major snowstorm. Mr. Carlberg stated that that would have to be addressed in the
association documents regarding the maintenance issues of the road.
Commissioner Daninger questioned how often there are emergency entrances like what is
being proposed. Mr. Haas stated that there are other emergency entrances around the
City, for example there is one on the south side of Andover Blvd.
Commissioner Daninger questioned how the emergency entrance is blocked off. Mr.
Carlberg explained that the entrance would be locked with a gate.
Commissioner Daninger mentioned concerns only to assure that kids aren't able to open
it up. Mr. Carlberg stated that it wouldn't be possible for kids to unlock the entrance.
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Mr. Carlberg stated that the fire chief has approved the emergency entrance.
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Motion by Daninger, seconded by Kirchoff, to open the four public hearings relating to
the Aztec Estates at 8:52 p.m. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, a-nays, 2-absent (Squires and
Hedin) vote.
Robert Manary, 14268 Woodbine Street NW, stated that the developer has never met
with the neighbors near the proposed development. He stated that they are concerned
with the area since it is a large wetland, which during high watermarks is the feeder from
Round Lake. He stated that his land sits right up against the wetland, and the
development is two or three feet higher than his, as a result where is the water going to
go. He stated that their biggest concern is that the area has been a wetland for years,
where deer, pheasants, geese, ducks, etc. have made it their home, however putting this
development in will only change that. He mentioned that the reason people have moved
into that area is for low density, however to put in townhomes will only change that while
bringing down the value of our homes.
Patrick 0 'Neill, 1433 0 Yucca Street, commended staff for taking the time to listen to the
residents concerns. He mentioned that he does have concerns about the water issues,
however feels it is best to leave it up to the engineers. He encouraged the City to save as
many trees as possible.
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Mike Label, 3858 143rd Avenue, mentioned concerns regarding the large amount of
traffic that already exists on Bunker Lake Blvd. He also spoke concerns about the
ecology of the development, and feels it shouldn't be approved since it is a wetland area.
He suggested the City look into developing the area as a park.
Robert Belousek, 14076 Aztec Street, stated that the developer did have a neighborhood
meeting at the City Hall. He mentioned that he also has concerns about the traffic on
Highway 116, and if the City puts another exit a few hundred feet down it will only
magnifY the problem. He stated that in past years when there has been more precipitation
his backyard has flooded, and if the City decides to cover the area with asphalt the water
is sure to end up in our backyards. He suggested the development not be approved due to
the traffic, the water, and the integrity that when we moved to the area the City told us
that no building could take place on that land.
Dennis Reinhardt, 14279 Woodbine Street, stated that a lot of good points have been
brought up before the Commission. He stated that he has lived on his property for 17
years and remembers years ago that the developments across the street were also wetlands
and unbuildable. He suggested the land be made into park land. He agreed that the
development shouldn't be approved because ofthe traffic levels and the fact that it is a
wetland.
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Maria Reinhardt, 14279 Woodbine Street, stated for the record that she agrees with
everything that was said by Mr. Reinhardt.
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Motion by Falk, seconded by Kirchoff, to close the four public hearings relating to the
Aztec Estates at 9: 12 p.m. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Squires and
Hedin) vote.
Acting Chair Dalien stated that he was a little disappointed that the developer didn't get
together with more of the neighbors. He questioned ifthere are plans for ponding.
Mr. Harstad stated that he used the same list that was used for the sketch plan when he
sent out the notice for the neighborhood meeting, which accounted for 47 different
households. He stated that 14 families were present that night, and most of them had the
same concerns that have been raised tonight. He mentioned that it isn't possible for him
to control the traffic on Bunker Lake Blvd. He also mentioned that he did bring it up to
the Park Commission on whether or not they would like to buy the land. He displayed a
picture showing the areas where trees will exist, while showing a buffer of trees that will
go around the whole area. He stated that he doesn't feel this type of development will
bring down the value of the already existing homes.
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Mr. Harstad stated that he believes what he is proposing is a good product for the
community and the neighborhood. He stated that it has uniformity and is always pleasing
to the eye since the lawns are manicured and taken care of.
Acting Chair Dalien questioned if there would be additional ponding since the water issue
continues to be a concern.
Mr. Harstad stated that the engineers have calculated how much water is going to seep
into the ground and based on that they have determined the development would have two
ponds. He mentioned that the site will also be picking up part of what is on Woodbine
Street.
Acting Chair Dalien questioned if the City has been telling residents in the area that this
land was unbuildable and therefore would never be developed. Mr. Haas stated that he
was aware that at some point the area would be developed.
Commissioner Daninger questioned if the Park Commission was ever approached about
buying the land. Mr. Haas explained that the Park Commission is actually looking at
selling some land. He stated that they have to look at their priorities and since there are a
number of projects they want to complete he didn't feel they would be interested. He
suggested residents come to the next Park Commission meeting on December 7,2000 at
7:30 p.m. to voice their concerns.
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A member from the audience suggested the possibility of the DNR purchasing the
property. He also mentioned that even though there are two ponding areas on the site,
they are no where near Aztec Street where his property is located.
Project Engineer Chuck Plowe stated that in response to the previous gentleman there
actually should be less water near Aztec Street. He gave reasons to support this
statement.
Mr. Haas mentioned that all the water issues are addressed by a number of groups, some
of them being staff, and the watershed district.
Acting Chair Dalien questioned if the public is welcome to attend the watershed district
meetings. Mr. Haas stated that the public is welcome to attend. He mentioned that they
meet the third Thursday at the Anoka City Hall.
Commissioner Apel stated that its easier said than done to preserve special areas, since
there never seems to be enough money. He stated that Mr. Haas is correct to say that it
has been known that this area would eventually be developed.
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Commissioner Daninger stated that the water concerns will be addressed effectively since
there are a number of individuals who are involved and check out the area. He stated that
he is going to approve the development based on what has been proposed before the
Commission, in addition to everything being in accordance with the ordinances. He
suggested residents contact the DNR and research if that would even be a possibility for
them to purchase the site.
Commissioner Falk stated that everything is there and in accordance with the ordinances
to approve the development.
Commissioner Kirchoff stated that he supports the project, even though he is concerned
about the level of traffic. He stated that he is also concerned about the hydrology,
however those issues are being addressed. He also suggested residents get together and
contact the DNR as a possibility for them to buy the iand.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Daninger, to recommend to the City Council approval
of Resolution No. R_-OO amending the Comprehensive Land Use Plan for Harstad
Company for Aztec Estates located in the SW 'l4 of Section 29. Motion carried on a 5-
ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Squires and Hedin) vote.
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Motion by Daninger, seconded by Apel, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Ordinance No. 8_ amending Ordinance No.8, Section 6.03, Zoning District Map ofthe
City of Andover. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Squires and Hedin) vote.
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consisting of fifty-six townhome units to be knows as the Natures Run subdivision.
Motion carried on a 5-ayes, a-nays, 2-absent (Squires and Hedin) vote.
Motion by Apel, seconded by Daninger, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. R_-OO approving the Preliminary Plat of the Planned Unit Development
Natures Run by D.H. Land Company located in Section 27, Township 32, Range 24,
Anoka County, Minnesota.
Further Discussion
Commissioner Falk questioned if the cul-de-sac would need a variance. Mr. Carlberg
stated that it is included with the PUD in the list of development standards and included
on exhibit B, therefore it doesn't need to be added.
Motion carried on a 5-ayes, a-nays, 2-absent (Squires and Hedin) vote.
Motion by Daninger, seconded by Apel, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. R_-OO granting the Special Use Permit requested by Natures Run to
allow for the construction of an Area Identification Sign pursuant to Ordinance No.8,
Section 8.07 (D)(2)(H) on the property located at 14XXX Hummingbird St. Lot 27,
{ j Block I, Natures Run, subject to the following conditions:
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1. That the applicant submits a drawing ofthe proposed sign and dimensions.
2. That the sign location meets all setback requirements.
3. That the Special Use Permit be subject to an annual review by staff.
4. That the applicant executes a written agreement for the maintenance of the
sign.
5. That the applicant obtains a sign permit prior to a erection of the sign.
6. That the Special Use Permit be subject to a sunset clause as defined in
Ordinance No.8, Section 5.03 (D).
7. That the applicant verifies the final location of the sign with staff prior to
installation.
Motion carried on a 5-ayes, a-nays, 2-absent (Squires and Hedin) vote.
Acting Chair Dalien stated that the five issues related to the Natures Run Development
would be considered at the December 19,2000 City Council meeting.
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Mr. Hinzman mentioned that Chairperson Squires's and Commissioner Apel's terms are
up, therefore anyone interested in applying for the commission may apply and the City
Council will review the applications.
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Motion by Apel, seconded by Kirchoff, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. R_-OO approving the Preliminary Plat of the Planned Unit Development
of Aztec Estates by Harstad Companies located in Sections 29 & 30, subject to the
conditions listed in the resolution and the one listed below:
1. That a variance be granted for the added length in the cul-de-sac.
Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Squires and Hedin) vote.
Motion by Apel, seconded by Falk, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. R_-OO granting the Special Use Permit requested by Harstad Companies
for a Planned Unit Development to develop a mixed use residential development
consisting of fourty-eight townhome units and two single family urban residential lots to
be known as the Aztec Estates subdivision. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent
(Squires and Hedin) vote.
Acting Chair Dalien stated that the four issues related to the Aztec Estates Development
would be considered at the December 19,2000 City Council meeting.
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PRESENATION: NATURES RUN - 56 TOWNHOME UNITS - 36.1 ACRES - SW
CORNER OF ANDOVER BLVD. & HANSON BLVD. - PRESENTATION BY DH
LAND COMPANY.
Mr. Carlberg introduced the Natures Run Development as having 56 townhome units on
36.1 acres. He stated that the site is located in the SW corner of Andover Blvd. and
Hanson Blvd. He introduced Steve Johnston, representing DH Land Company, to present
the proposal before the Commission.
Mr. Johnston explained that they have reworked the plat since last spring when the sketch
plan came before the Commission. He stated that they have removed commercial
component of the property from the project completely. He mentioned that the private
drive has been eliminated and the project now consists of 56 buildings at a density of 4
units per acre. He stated that there still is a long cul-de-sac, which does exceed the
requirements, however they are willing to connect to Hanson Blvd. He mentioned that
they do discourage an access to Hanson Blvd., and therefore are suggesting an emergency
access only. The townhomes will be part of an association, and will be priced between
$230,000 and $270,000.
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PUBLIC HEARING: COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT (CPA 00-11) _
CHANGE THE LAND USE DISTRICT DESIGNATION FROM RU, RESIDENTIAL
URBAN SINGLE FAMILY AND OS, OPEN SPACE TO RM, RESIDENTIAL
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PUBLIC HEARING: REZOING (REZ 00-09) - REZONE PROPERTY FROM R-4,
SINGLE FAMILY URBAN AND R-1, SINGLE FAMILY RURAL TO M-1,
MULTIPLE DWELLING, LOW DENSITY.
PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT (SUP 00-17) - PLANNED UNIT
DEVELOPMENT.
PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT - NATURES RUN - 56 TOWNHOME
UNITS - 36.1 ACRES - SW CORNER OF ANDOVER BLVD. & HANSON BLVD.
PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT (SUP 00-18) - AREA
IDENTIFICATION SIGN - NATURES RUN.
Mr. Hinzman explained that the Commission is being asked to review an amendment to
the Comprehensive Plan on approximately 31.3 acres. He stated that they are requesting
to re-designate land from RU, Residential Urban Single Family to RM, Residential
Medium Density, in addition to re-designate land from OS, Open Space to RM,
Residential Medium Density.
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Mr. Hinzman explained that the land south and west of Coon Creek will remain OS,
Open Space. He stated that the site is adjacent to Hanson Blvd. NW and Andover Blvd.
NW, which is a major road intersection. He stated that the site is within the existing
Metropolitan Urban Service Area. He mentioned that the proposed site is separated from
existing single-family residential development along most of the perimeter. The
maximum density for the RM, Residential Medium Density district is 6 units per acre.
Finally, the site abuts six single family homes on the south side of Andover Blvd.
Mr. Hinzman explained that the developer is also requesting to rezone land from R-4,
Single Family Urban to RM, Residential Medium Density on approximately 1.2 acres, in
addition to re-designate land from R-l, Single Family Rural to RM, Residential Medium
Density on approximately 30.1 acres. He mentioned that the rezoning would conform to
the existing and draft Comprehensive Plans upon approval ofthe concurrent
Comprehensive Plan Amendment.
Mr. Carlberg explained that the Commission is being asked to review the request for a
Special Use Permit for a Planned Unit Development to develop a residential development
consisting of 56 townhome units on 36.1 acres. He stated that included in the staff report
is the "Development Standards" for the proposed development. He stated that these
standards are variations to the M-l zoning district standards. He mentioned that the
Commission should be aware that the developer is not proposing a density increase above
the zoning district requirement.
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Mr. Carlberg stated that also up for approval is the Preliminary Plat. He stated that the
developer would be responsible to obtain all necessary permits associated with the site.
He reviewed the comments made by the Andover Review Committee. Some of those
comments including a trail along Hanson Blvd., possibly internal sidewalks and trails,
and emergency access to connect Hummingbird Street with Hanson Blvd., and no grading
to take place until approval by the City Council and the City Engineer.
Mr. Taylor explained that a Special Use Permit is being requested to allow for the
construction of an Area Identification Sign on the property located at 14XXX
Hummingbird Street NW, Lot 27, Block 1. He stated that the sign would measure 32'
square feet and consist of a 4 'X8' stone sign supported by two brick pillars. He noted
that in order to meet the setback requirements the sign location would need to be moved
further to the east towards Hanson Blvd.
Commissioner Daninger questioned if the developer is comfortable with the new location
of the sign. Mr. Johnston stated that he approves of the new location for the sign.
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Commissioner Daninger questioned if the bituminous trail would be located on the north
side of the development or the north side of Andover Blvd. Mr. Haas pointed out the
location of the trail on the map. He mentioned that there will be discussion with the City
Council to constructing a trail west of Hanson Blvd. to Crosstown Blvd. along the north
side of Andover Blvd. due to the location of the high schooL Staff is also recommending
to construct a trail on the south side between the new Hummingbird Street and Hanson
Blvd. on the south side of Andover Blvd. to provide a safe passage to existing trails on
Hanson Blvd. He mentioned that it will be discussed at the next Park Commission
meeting on December 7,2000.
Commissioner Daninger questioned if the developer is aware of what the City is thinking
in terms of the location ofthe traiL Mr. Haas stated that in reality it is up to the City,
even though the developer pays a fee to the City.
Mr. Johnston stated that he will support whatever the City decides.
Motion by Apel, seconded by Daninger, to open the five public hearings relating to the
Natures Run Development at 9:57 p.m. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent
(Squires and Hedin) vote.
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Gloria Freyholtz, 1806 Andover Blvd., stated that she feels the residents keep getting
taken advantage of by the City. She suggested running the sidewalk through the
development over to Crosstown rather than taking more land from her property. She
stated that most of the residents in her area feel the City is overpopulating the area.
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David Overbaugh, i 826 Andover Blvd., mentioned that he is a 42 year resident of
Andover. He stated that it seems every new development being discussed is on wetlands.
He questioned the reason behind it and why the City is choosing to increase density. He
stated that even though the engineers have done research to state that the site can handle a
development they are wrong. He stated that the water needs to go somewhere and where
will it go if it is all built up. He questioned the reason behind putting a sidewalk on the
south side since it will nearly always have ice during the winter months. He suggested
the sidewalk be on the north side.
Thomas Enzmann, 1718 Andover Blvd., read a letter written by his wife Connie
Enzmann. She stated that a petition was submitted to the City Council in March of this
year with several issues of concern such as traffic, wetland impact, and water drainage,
however the City has not resolved most of these concerns. She listed statistics regarding
the number of cars that travel on Crosstown, Hanson Blvd. and Andover Blvd. She
suggested the City wait until the new school is completed prior to any new developments
going in to see the impact of traffic as a result of the school first.
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Michel Hollister, 1816 Andover Blvd., stated that he also has concerns regarding the
amount of traffic that will be generated by the new school and the future housing
developments. He also mentioned concerns about children crossing the street when the
traffic is so heavy.
Mr. Overbaugh mentioned that he has seen an individual park a car, on the inside of an
emergency only access as a place to park while he sleeps. He also mentioned that the
police was contacted regarding this incident, however the cop just told the man he could
park on the other side of the gate.
Mr. Enzmann stated that when he originally bought his property he was told that the land
was unbuildable and the reason was that it was located next to the land fill, since there
was too much risk for toxic wastes. He stated that he made the decision to put up with
the landfill with the understanding that he would have privacy.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Falk, to close the five public hearings relating to the
Natures Run Development at 10: 13 p.m. Motion carried on as-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent
(Squires and Hedin) vote.
Acting Chair Dalien requested Mr. Hinzman to expand on the history of the
Comprehensive Plan regarding the Open Space. Mr. Hinzman explained in detail the
history of the property being designated as Open Space on the Comprehensive Plan.
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Commissioner Apel stated that most Open Space was considered a wish list. He
mentioned that there was no official action taken to change the intended use ofthe
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property. He stated that he is unsure as to why it was open space, however speculates it
may have been due to the landfilL
Commissioner Kirchoff stated that Mr. Enzmann shouldn't be discouraged since things
on the plat have changed since last spring. He stated that the residents have had an
influence on this development. He reminded him that the commercial lot was removed
from the plat. He stated that the issue with the sidewalks will be addressed more
thoroughly with the Parks Commission.
Acting Chair Dalien stated that the City intends to maintain the sidewalks on a regular
basis.
Mr. Overbaugh questioned the reason the City would put two trails within a 100 yards of
each other.
Commissioner Daninger questioned who would be responsible for maintaining the
emergency road. Mr. Carlberg stated that the road would probably be a private road.
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Commissioner Daninger questioned which way the traffic from the development would
go out. Mr. Haas stated that he would think it would go towards Hanson Blvd.
Mr. Haas mentioned that the City is only anticipating 200 additional vehicles per day due
to the schooL
Mr. Carlberg stated that most of the traffic will come from the north and the northwest, in
addition there will be no buses coming from the south.
Mr. Haas stated that Andover Blvd. is 32 feet wide and meets the state requirements to
handle the current traffic and much more.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Apel, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. R_-OO amending the Comprehensive Land Use Plan for DH Land
Company for Natures Run located at 1650 Andover Blvd. NW. Motion carried on a 5-
ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Squires and Hedin) vote.
Motion by Falk, seconded by Kirchoff, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Ordinance No.8 _ amending Ordinance No.8, Section 6.03, Zoning District Map of
the City of Andover. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Squires and Hedin)
vote.
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Motion by Daninger, seconded by Kirchoff, to recommend to the City Council approval
of Resolution No. R_-OO granting the Special Use Permit requested by D.H. Land
Company for a Planned Unit Development to develop a residential development
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Mr. Hinzman announced he has taken a position with another company, and therefore this
would be his last Planning Commission meeting. He thanked the Commissioners for all
their support.
The Commission thanked Mr. Hinzman for all his hard work and assistance in helping the
meetings run smoothly and efficiently.
Mr. Carlberg mentioned that Mr. Hinzman was an asset to the City in helping the City's
Planning Dept. advance tremendously. He stated that Mr. Hinzman will definitely be
missed.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Falk, seconded by Kirchoff, to adjourn. Motion carried on 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-
absent (Squires and Hedin) vote. The meeting was adjourned at 10:33 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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