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CITY of ANDOVER
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING-JUNE 1,2000
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was called
to order by Chairperson Jim Lindahl on June 1,2000, 7:40 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685
Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present:
Paul Anderson, Tom Anderson, Al Grabowski, Valerie Holthus,
and Jim Lindahl
Jeff Kieffer, and Dave O'Toole
Park Coordinator, Todd Haas
Commissioners absent:
Also present:
RESIDENTS FORUM
Linda Sexton,14289 Vintaf!e Street, stated that she was from the Anoka Junior Soccer
Association and requested use of the soccer fields during the daytime for a week in June and a
couple of days in July.
Commissioner Grabowski questioned the hours that the fields will be used.
Ms. Sexton explained that they would be using the fields from approximately 10:30 a.m. to
3:00 or 5:00 p.m.
Commissioner Grabowski stated that his only concern with using the fields all day is allowing
time for maintenance of the fields and suggested that they rotate field usage.
Consensus of the Commission was to allow for the Anoka Junior Soccer Association to use the
fields during the day provided there is no conflict with other Associations and requested that
staff provide the Anoka Junior Soccer Association with a field rotation to allow for
maintenance of the fields.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion by Tom Anderson, seconded by Grabowski, to approve the May 4, 2000 regular Park
Commission meeting minutes as written. Motion carried on a 5 - ayes, 0 - nays, 2- absent
(Kieffer and O'Toole), and 0- present vote.
NATURE'S RUN SKETCH PLAN/SECTION 27
Mr. Haas stated that the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to review the proposed
sketch plan for Nature's Run as presented by D.H. Land Company located in Section 27 -32-24.
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He noted that it was necessary for the Commission to determine if a trail easement will be
required for the main trail along Coon Creek or take a strip of parkland for the trail and down to
Coon Creek.
Mr. Stanton, D.H Land Company, stated that after hearing the public input during the Planning
Commission public hearing they have revised the sketch plan to construct the trail along the
creek and save as many trees as possible. Mr. Stanton reviewed the new proposed sketch plan
including a strip of parkland which D.H. Land Company is requesting credit towards park
dedication in exchange for the land.
Commissioner Grabowski stated that the last time the Park Commission reviewed the idea of a
trail along Coon Creek the Commission had determined that the trail should be constructed on
the south side of the creek and the new sketch plan proposes the trail on the north side.
Mr. Haas explained that as the discussion progressed regarding the trail on the south side of the
creek it was determined that it was not possible to construct the trail on the south side because
of the fence that exists on the WDE site.
Chairperson Lindahl inquired if the value of the parkland was going to be based on the value of
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Mr. Haas replied that the value of the land will have to be determined. He explained that D.H.
Land Company can make a proposal to the Commission and then the Commission can either
agree or disagree with the amount proposed. If the Commission were to disagree with the
amount proposed then it would be necessary to have an appraisal done on the piece of property.
Commissioner Grabowski noted that if the land is dedicated as parkland the City will be
responsible for any clean-up or maintenance.
Commissioner Holthus questioned the advantage of a trail easement.
Mr. Haas replied that the City would receive one hundred percent of the park dedication at
$1,300 per unit.
Mr. Stanton stated that the current park dedication fees total $61,600 and D.H. Land Company
is requesting a credit of $28,000 for the parkland.
Commissioner Grabowski stated that the advantage of a PUD for a developer is that they are
allowed to construct a development at a higher density and usually the City receives some
benefit in return. He questioned what benefit the City will receive from this development.
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Mr. Stanton replied that they feel they have proposed an appropriate density and that it is up toethe City to determine what the value is to the City.
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Commissioner Grabowski stated that the Commission needs to have a better idea as to the value
of the land.
Chairperson Lindahl stated that other PUD sketch plans have provided trails within the PUD
and connected them to other City trails.
Mr. Stanton replied that they are planning a connection to the City trails from the development.
Commissioner Holthus inquired if the streets will be widened to allow for pedestrian traffic
within the development.
Mr. Stanton replied that the streets are proposed to be constructed at standard street widths with
no private streets.
Mr. Haas reviewed the trails around the development and suggested the need for a trail along
Andover Boulevard due to the construction of the new high school.
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Consensus of the Commission is that there is currently not a need for a trail along Andover
Boulevard and that the parkland for the Coon Creek trail should be no more than 50 feet from
the existing easement center line.
The resident (a} 1846 Andover Boulevard, requested that a fence or barrier be constructed where
the trail would turn to cross the creek to prevent people from accessing their backyards.
The resident (a} 1826 Andover Boulevard, reviewed a photograph of their backyards and the
location where they are requesting fencing.
Consensus of the commission was to install a fence and keep a natural barrier where the trail
turns to cross the creek. They also recommended that the trail cross the creek before the creek
curves to alleviate some of the concerns of the residents.
The resident (a} 1780 Andover Boulevard, questioned if it was the recommendation of the Park
Commission to not construct a trail along Andover Boulevard.
Chairperson Lindahl replied yes.
NORTH METRO SOCCER ASSOCIATION
Mr. Haas stated that Steve Freitag from North Metro Soccer Association wanfed to discuss the
o potential soccer funding that may be available from the State of Minnesota.
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Steve Freitag, North Metro Soccer Association, explained that 2.5 million dollars will be given
to the Amateur Sports Commission to be used for soccer fields. First priority will be for new
fields and the rest for upgrading fields. He explained that at this time there is not much the
Commission can do to apply for those funds because nothing has been presently put into
writing but he plans to keep the Commission updated as to the status of the funds.
Commissioner Grabowski suggested using the funds to purchase land to construct new soccer
fields.
Mr. Freitag inquired if the City of Andover is responsible for constructing the soccer fields for
the new high school.
Commissioner Grabowski replied yes.
Mr. Freitag inquired if North Metro Soccer Association would be allowed to use the fields.
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Commissioner Grabowski replied yes, explaining that the school will have full use of the fields
while the school is in session, but after that the City would have use of the fields. He requested
that the item be added to the issues list so the Commission can be updated as to the status of the
funds.
MERIT DEVELOPMENT SKETCH PLAN/SECTION 28
Mr. Haas stated that the Park and Recreation Commission was requested to review the proposed
sketch plan as being presented by Merit Development located in Section 28-32-24. Mr. Haas
reviewed the proposed sketch plan and suggested that the Commission recommend cash in lieu
of land for park dedication.
Commissioner Grabowski inquired if the association will be responsible for all the common
land.
Mr. Haas replied yes.
Consensus of the Commission to recommend cash in lieu of land for park dedication.
GOLD NUGGET SKETCH PLAN/SECTION 14
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Mr. Haas stated that the Park and Recreation Commission was requested to review the proposed
sketch plan as being presented by Gold Nugget located in Section 14-32-24. He explained that
the Commission needed to discuss the bikeway/walkway trails along 161 st Avenue NW and
interior of the development. The Comprehensive Plan indicated a possible trail along the
railroad and 16151 Avenue NW. He explained that one concern with the trail along 161 st
Avenue is that there are a lot of wetlands that are adjacent to 161 st A venue and suggested that
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the Commission consider constructing the trail behind the wetlands and instead of constructing
a trail along the railroad tracks, widen the main street to allow for a bike route since it will
eventually connect to Crosstown Boulevard.
Consensus of the Commission was to construct the trail along 161 st Avenue behind the
wetlands and not construct a trail along the railroad tracks but widen the roadways within the
development.
Mr. Haas noted that he will meet with the developers to discuss the possibilities.
Commissioner Tom Anderson expressed concern over the need for a park in the area and
questioned when the property would be developed.
Mr. Haas replied that he is not sure at this time.
Commissioner Tom Anderson inquired if the park will be larger than a tot lot.
Commissioner Grabowski replied that the park would not include any ball fields.
" ) Chairperson Lindahl stated that if they keep adding a lot of neighborhood parks, the City will
not be able to maintain them.
Commissioner Grabowski stated that Public Works should provide information as to the
amount oftime needed to maintain each of the neighborhood parks.
PUBLIC WORKS UPDATE
The Commission was presented with an update for the last three weeks of May.
RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PLANS AND SPECS/OO-09/HIDDEN CREEK NORTH
PARKING LOT
Mr. Haas requested that this item be tabled until the next Park and Recreation Commission
meeting.
UPDATE OF SUNSHINE PARK SHELTER/99-21
Mr. Haas stated that the City of Andover performed an inspection on May 31, 2000 of the
shelter and reviewed items that were not completed or items that were in violation of the plans
and specifications.
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Commissioner Grabowski requested that staff keep track of the warranty and also noted that
there is duct tape under the sealcoating that will need to be redone.
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Mr. Haas noted that staff is waiting on an interpretation of plans and specifications regarding
the electrical work.
Commissioner Grabowski stated that a time limit should be given to the contractor to correct
the problems or further action will be taken.
UPDATE OF 2000 DNR GRANT APPLICATIONS
Mr. Haas updated that Park and Recreation Commission in regards to the Outdoor Recreation
Grant that were submitted for Wild Iris and Hawkridge Parks.
REVIEW ISSUES LIST
Mr. Haas reviewed the items on the issues list.
CHAIRMAN'S REPORT
Mr. Haas noted that staff met with MN Playground and were informed that there is a lot more
work that needs to be completed to make the playgrounds ADA accessible than initially
thought.
Chairperson Lindahl noted that parks can be upgraded in phases.
Mr. Haas replied that staff plans to complete one park at a time.
Commissioner Paul Anderson stated that at the May 4th Park Commission meeting it was
suggested that the Cities insurance agency should review the playground equipment and
questioned if that had been done.
Mr. Haas replied that he will add the item to the issues list.
Commissioner Holthus stated that there had been previous discussions regarding playground
equipment at Sunshine Park near the shelter for the younger siblings and requested that the
Commission continue to pursue the possibility and add the item to the issues list.
Commissioner Grabowski requested that Mr. Haas contact Captain Klink and have him remind
the Community Service Officer to make themselves more visible at the parks.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Tom Anderson, seconded by Paul Anderson, to adjourn, Motion carried
unanimously, The meeting adjourned at 9:45 p.m.
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Respectfully submitted,
Nanci Libor, Recording Secretary
TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.
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