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HomeMy WebLinkAboutNovember 13, 2001 o ./ \ \J o o o CITY of ANDOVER 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW.. ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304. (763) 755-5100 FAX (763) 755-8923 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - NOVEMBER 13,2001 The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Chairperson Jay Squires on November 13, 2001, 7:01 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present: Chairperson Jay Squires, Commissioners Tim Kirchoff, Mark Hedin, Larry Dalien, and Dean Daninger. Commissioners absent: Commissioners Douglas Falk and Rex Greenwald. Also present: City Planner, Courtney Bednarz Planning Intern, Jason Angell Others APPROVAL OF MINUTES October 23,2001 Motion by Daninger, seconded by Dalien, to approve the minutes as presented. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Falk and Greenwald) vote. PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING (01-03) TO CHANGE THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 732 140TH LANE NW FROM R-1, SINGLE FAMILY RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO R-4, SINGLE FAMILY URBAN RESIDENTIAL FOR THE PROJECT TO BE KNOWN AS 'ASHWOOD ESTATES'- KIM TRAMM. PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR A THREE LOT URBAN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO BE KNOWN AS 'ASHWOOD ESTATES' LOCATED AT 732 140TH LANE NW - KIM TRAMM. City Planner Courtney Bednarz explained that the Commission is being asked to review the rezoning and preliminary plat requests for the project to be known as 'Ashwood Estates'. The subject property has three sewer and water stubs with one being utilized by the existing home. The City's draft Comprehensive Plan indicates that this area will transition from rural to urban size lots by utilizing the infrastructure that has already been provided. He stated that the rezoning would bring the Zoning Map and Comprehensive Plan into alignment for this property and allow the proposed development to be designed \ ,) U Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - November 13, 2001 Page 2 ~) according to the zoning regulations for the R-4, Single Family Urban Residential Zoning District. Mr. Bednarz stated that the existing garage on Lot 3 would need to be removed as indicated on the plan. This structure must be removed before the final plat can be recorded. The portion of the existing fence on Lot 2 must be moved back to the proposed property line between Lot 1 and Lot 2. Areas where trees will be saved must be indicated on the plan as required by Ordinance 214. It's the developer's intention to save as many trees as possible. There are also minor notations that need to be made on the plans as indicated in the engineering memorandum. The developer/owner is responsible to obtain all necessary permits. The Park and Recreation Commission reviewed this item at their June 7, 2001 meeting and indicated that a park dedication payment for the two proposed properties would be required. The Building Official reviews all building permit applications to determine whether the exterior architectural design, appearance, or functional plan will vary from any structures within 300' of the proposed structure. , } Commissioner Hedin questioned if the surrounding lots are zoned R-1 or R-4. Mr. Bednarz stated that the property to the west was recently rezoned to R-4, however the remainder of the properties are zoned R-l. Commissioner Hedin questioned what the properties to the south are zoned. Mr. Bednarz stated that the properties to the south are zoned R-4. Motion by Hedin, seconded by Daninger, to open the public hearing on the Rezoning (01- 03) for the property at 732 140th Lane at 7:07 p.m. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2- absent (Falk and Greenwald) vote. Motion by Hedin, seconded by Dalien, to open the public hearing on the Preliminary Plat for the property at 732 140th Lane at 7:07 p.m. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2- absent (Falk and Greenwald) vote. There was no public input. Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Daninger, to close the public hearing on the Rezoning (01-03) at 7:08 p.m. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Falk and Greenwald) vote. Motion by Daninger, seconded by Hedin, to close the public hearing on the Preliminary Plat at 7:08 p.m. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Falk and Greenwald) vote. , J '\ , ) U Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - November 13,2001 Page 3 l) Commissioner Kirchoff stated that the plat was reviewed this past June and most of the questions and concerns at that time have been addressed. He mentioned that the engineering report does state a few concerns, however those items will be completed. Commissioner Hedin agreed. Motion by Daninger, seconded by Dalien, to recommend to the City Council approval of Ordinance No. 8_, an Ordinance Amending Ordinance No.8, Section 6.03, Zoning District Map of the City of Andover. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Falk and Greenwald) vote. Motion by Daninger, seconded by Kirchoff, to recommend to the City Council approval of Resolution No. _, approving the Preliminary Plat of "Ashwood Estates" by Tramm Builders and Realtors, LLC located at 732 I 40th Avenue NW in Section 36, Township 32, Range 24, Anoka County, Minnesota. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Falk and Greenwald) vote. Mr. Bednarz stated that these items would be reviewed at the December 4,2001 City Council meeting. . \ ,_J PUBLIC HEARING: RESIDENTIAL SKETCH PLAN FOR AN EIGHT LOT RURAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO BE KNOWN AS 'SILVER MEADOWS' LOCATED AT 16326 VERDIN ST. NW -FOSSIWIELOCK. The Applicant, Mr. Wielock, presented the sketch plan for an eight lot rural residential development to be known as 'Silver Meadows' located at 16326 Verdin St NW. He stated that parcel is 40 acres in size, however there are only 8 buildable lots due to the wetlands on the west side of the property. He went on to explain the sketch plan in greater detail. Commissioner Daninger questioned if the Commission has the same proposal that's being presented to the audience. Mr. Bednarz stated that indeed it's the same proposal. The Applicant, Jerry Foss, stated that they would have liked more lots, however because of the wetlands only 8 lots would conform to City regulations. '. j Mr. Bednarz explained that the Commission is asked to informally advise the subdivider of the extent to which the plan conforms to the Comprehensive Plan, design standards of City, county, state and federal agencies and possible modification necessary to secure approval of the plan. Submission of a sketch plan doesn't constitute formal filing of the plan. He stated that the proposed sketch plan is consistent with the Andover Comprehensive Land Use Plan as the property is designated RR, Rural Residential. The property is located outside the Metropolitan Urban Service Area. Private utilities would need to be established to serve proposed properties. All lots would be required to meet all local and City ordinances. \ , / f \ V Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - November 13, 2001 Page 4 (J Mr. Bednarz stated that the sketch plan proposed two cul-de-sacs that are 650 and 590 feet in length, respectively; Lots 5 and 6 could be provided access from these streets instead of Verdin St. NW. The Andover Review Committee recommends connecting the two cul-de-sacs to provide a 'loop' street. This would allow the south cul-de-sac to be eliminated. This design retains the north cul-de-sac to allow Lot 3 to utilize the reduced lot width requirement. This design also eliminates the need for a variance for the length of the north cul-de-sac due to the street connection and allows the southern road to move further north to allow additional buildable area for Lot 8. Mr. Bednarz stated that a variance to a minimum lot area requirement for Lot 6 may be necessary as a result ofthe roadway adjustment. Every effort should be made to locate the street connection in a manner that will maximize the lot area of Lot 6 and retain enough buildable area for Lots 4 and 7. Property lines may also be adjusted to increase the size oflots adjacent to Lot 7. Mr. Bednarz stated that there is landlocked property to the west of the subject property. This is Outlot A of Lund's Evergreen Estates 2nd Addition. This property is owned by an adjacent property owner to the west with access to Arrowhead St. NW. The Park and Recreation Commission will review this item at their November 15th meeting. '. \. __/J' Commissioner Kirchoff questioned if staff was unsure of the sizes of the buildable lots. Mr. Bednarz described the lot sizes for the commission. The sketch presented by the applicant addresses the issue of connecting the street and pulling it to the north. Chair Squires questioned what property it is that has access to Arrowhead. He questioned if Outlot A is buildable, and if so if it would be feasible to have access to cross the property. Mr. Bednarz pointed out the location of the property, which is owned by the same landowner. He stated that the ability of a developer or the City to develop a street through a wetland is limited. He stated that it really isn't possible without a lot of compensation to take the street from Verdin and access the outlot. He mentioned that the likely hood ofthe property to the west of the wetlands to be developed is unknown and may be limited by wetlands also. Commissioner Kirchoff questioned what would happen if the lots less than 2.5 acres were removed. Mr. Bednarz explained that two lots are below the minimum lot size of 2.5 acres. He stated that the Commission needs to determine if it's more important to have slightly smaller lots and have the connection or have two cul-de-sacs, no street connection and lots that meet the minimum lot size. \ '. ) , \ U Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - November 13,2001 Page 5 u , / Chair Squires questioned if there is enough buildable land in Lot 3 to make it a lot. Mr. Bednarz stated that in order to determine this for sure there will need to be more engineering research completed. Commissioner Hedin questioned if the driveway would extend across the wetland for Lot 3. Mr. Bednarz stated that indeed the driveway would go across the wetland. He pointed out the location. Commissioner Daninger questioned if the chart in the staff report was built off the two cul-de-sac plan. Chair Squires stated that it was the two cul-de-sac plan. Commissioner Daninger stated that the major issues are the 3 lots under the 2.5-acre minimum size, and the one lot with a less than 300-foot frontage. Mr. Bednarz stated that the developer is really looking at variances for two lots under the 2.5-acre minimum size. The cul-de-sac lot meets the minimum lot width requirement. Motion by Dalien, seconded by Daninger, to open the public hearing at 7:32 p.m. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Falk and Greenwald) vote. x _) Mr. Foss clarified that Lot 2 is really 2.8 acres in size, not 2.4 acres and meets the minimum lot size requirement. Mr. Bednarz pointed out the location of the lot. Robert Whitney, 2520 1 66th Avenue NW, questioned what restrictions and/or provisions the City will put in for the Lot on the NW comer to assure all drainage issues are addressed. Mr. Bednarz stated that the project will be reviewed by the Watershed District where strict requirements will need to be met in order to receive approval. Jim Pearson, 16552 , stated that he has noticed there have been water problems in the past with the Lund development. He requested the properties along the west side be researched thorougWy to make sure all water problems are addressed. Mr. Bednarz stated that the Lund development is an older development; therefore, there are requirements now that weren't in affect at the time it was developed. There was no further public input. Motion by Dalien, seconded by Kirchoff, to close the public hearing at 7:37 p.m. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Falk and Greenwald) vote. Commissioner Dalien stated that he prefers the sketch with the road going through instead of having the cul-de-sacs. He stated that it's unfortunate there are some lots less than 2.5 acres, however he doesn't have a problem with it. '\ / l) \~ Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - November 13, 2001 Page 6 , / Commissioner Hedin stated that he is concerned with the amount of build ability in some of the lots, however since it's only a sketch plan he will support it at this stage and look for the information to come in with the preliminary plat. Commissioner Kirchoff stated that he supports the idea of the interior road instead of having two cul-de-sacs. He questioned if the county would have some input in the outcome since Verdin Street is a county road. Mr. Bednarz stated that the county has received a recent sketch plan of the development. Commissioner Kirchoff stated that he can understand the reasoning on giving up some acreage on a couple lots, which are surrounded by the road. Commissioner Daninger stated that he agrees with the rest of the Commission. He stated that he likes the idea of not having the long cul-de-sac for safety reasons. Mr. Bednarz mentioned that when the residents receive the next public notice for the development it will be at the preliminary plat stage, therefore more information will be available regarding the drainage concerns. Commissioner Hedin questioned what the rules are for replacing wetlands in a lot. Mr. Bednarz stated that a watershed permit is necessary and it's a 2 to 1 replacement. j Chair Squires stated that it seems the Commission is in agreement to recommend that one of the cul-de-sacs be eliminated. Commissioner Daninger stated that he would rather see a curved road than a right-angled road. Chair Squires stated that the Commission's consensus is also to move the road to the far west as possible and explore a curvilinear design while maintaining buildability on Lots 4 and 7, since it would be more aesthetically pleasing. Commissioner Kirchoff stated that he would hate to have the curve reduce the size of the two lots anymore than their current size. The Commission agreed. Chair Squires mentioned that ifit isn't possible to make the curve in the road then it would still be acceptable to the Commission. Mr. Bednarz stated that the development will come back for preliminary plat approval sometime after the first of the year. \ '- : U (J Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - November 13, 2001 Page 7 OTHER BUSINESS Mr. Bednarz stated that the terms are up for Commissioners Dalien, Falk and Daninger at the end of the year. He asked the Commissioners if they are interested in serving another term. Commissioners Dalien and Daninger both stated that they are interested in serving another term on the Commission. Mr. Bednarz mentioned that Commissioner Falk has also indicated that he would like to serve another term. Commissioner Dalien stated that he will be unable to attend the next Planning and Zoning Commission meeting. Chair Squires mentioned that after reading the City Council workshop minutes he was disappointed to find out that the County transportation plan doesn't address a signal at Hanson and Andover Blvd., however it does include a signal at Hanson and Crosstown. He stated that he feels strongly that the intersection of Hanson and Andover Blvd. is much worse and should be a priority over the intersection of Crosstown and Hanson. Mr. Bednarz stated that the long-term plan includes a signal at the intersection of Hanson and Andover Blvd. .j Chair Squires requested the City Council look at moving up the time frame for installation. Mr. Bednarz suggested the Commission spend time reviewing the year at an upcoming meeting to help set priorities for the year 2002. Commissioner Dalien questioned the status of the Ultralight Study. Mr. Bednarz stated that the study should be completed by the next Planning and Zoning Commission meeting. Commissioner Daninger updated the Commission on the recent Community Center Task Force meeting. He stated that they are looking at a number of potential facilities. He added that no decision has been made as to whether a facility will be built. ADJOURNMENT Motion by Dalien, seconded by Hedin, to adjourn the meeting at 7:56 p.m. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Falk and Greenwald) vote. Respectfully Submitted, Sara Beck, Recording Secretary TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc. . ,