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Regular Park & Recreation Commission Meeting
September 6, 2007
7:30 P.M.
1, Call to Order
2. Resident's Forum
3. Approval of Minutes (8/16/07)
4. Consider Update of Andover Park Dedication Study/06-46D. Cont.
5. Discuss Andover Station North Ball Field Facility/Status of Playground
EquipmenU07-16
6, Update of Joint Meeting with City Council
7, Review Outstanding Items
8.
9, Chair's Report
10. Adjournment
MEET AT STROOT MAN PARK AT 7:00 P.M.
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING -AUGUST 16,2007
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was
called to order by Chair Masloski on August 16, 2007, 7:32 p.m., at the Andover City
Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners Present:
Chair Dan Masloski, Jeremy Boyer, Ted Butler, Bill Hupp,
Jim Lindahl, Peggy Scott, and Tony Kowalewski
Commissioners Absent:
None.
Also Present:
Assistant Public Works Director, Todd Haas
SWEARING IN OF NEW COMMISSIONER
Chair Masloski swore in the new Commissioner Bill Hupp to complete the term left
vacant by Commissioner Albee.
RESIDENTS FORUM
There were no comments at this time.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion by Scott, seconded by Kowalewski, to approve the August 2, 2007 Park
Commission minutes as presented. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote.
CONSIDER REQUEST FROM PUBLIC WORKS PARKS
DEPARTMENTffRRIGATION OF WOODLAND ESTATES PARK
Mr. Haas reviewed the location and size of the park, and indicated that some of the
neighbors in the area requested that the park be irrigated. The City has hired a consultant
to prepare a report to evaluate a number of parks within the city to determine if it is
feasible to either install irrigation wells or sand points or none at all. Staff recommended
that the Commission wait for the consultants report which is due sometime in the middle
of October. He mentioned that money from the miscellaneous fund could be used for
these types of improvements. Commissioner Butler indicated he concurred with Mr.
Haas.
Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting
Minutes-August 16,2007
Page 2
Mr. Haas stated that at present the site could be served on City sanitary sewer and water,
but staff would like to have it independent of City water. It was a goal to consider this
for all the parks. Commissioner Hupp mentioned there were certain restrictions, and
suggested a sand point system so it would be more inexpensive and would come from the
upper aquifer. If the water came from the upper aquifer, it would have less impact on the
adjacent residential wells.
Mr. Haas suggested that the item be tabled to mid-October.
Motion by Lindahl, seconded by Butler, to table the item requested from Public Works
Parks Department concerning the irrigation of Woodland Estates Park. Motion carried on
a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote.
CONSIDER UPDATE OF ANDOVER PARK DEDICATION STUDY/06-46D
Mr. Haas reviewed the memo conceming the park dedication study. In a recent past
meeting, the Commission updated the Park Facilities Chart included on page 12. There
was provision for on additional field park for $2 million. He referred to page 14 where
the park dedication fee was shown for commercial properties. The numbers would be
similar to other cities. The plan was through the year 2030. He mentioned not many
cities had a study such as this.
Chair Masloski inquired where the population figure on page 10 came from. Mr. Haas
responded that the number did not include the rural reserve area.
Chair Masloski stated that it appeared that the numbers were not consistently applied.
Commissioner Lindahl clarified that they were according to the MUSA lines.
Commissioner Hupp believed the numbers were conservative. Chair Masloski indicated
that the lines would be pushed as the growth continued.
Mr. Haas stated that the MUSA boundary was pretty much the line. The City could add
to the MUSA in the future, but would have to prove it would not impact the future
sanitary sewer trunk lines.
Chair Masloski inquired ifMUSA went across the line, how residents on septic systems
would be impacted. Mr. Haas answered that generally the Council wanted to remain at
2.5 acre lots. He did not know the Council's stance on Planned Unit Developments
(PUDs).
Chair Masloski mentioned the numbers appeared to be low. Mr. Haas responded the
numbers came from the Community Development Department.
Commissioner Scott stated as a realtor, the trend in Minnesota was that the number of
people in a household was being reduced. The rate of development was slowing. In
Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting
Minutes-August 16,2007
Page 3
addition, people went from renting to the equivalent of a second home, skipping the
starter home stage. Commissioner Kowalewski suggested referring to the households
instead of the population. Commissioner Lindahl added that infrastructure limited
growth as well. He noted the plan was flexible, and the formula could change as
necessary.
Chair Masloski expressed concern that the City would be behind if the population grew.
Commissioner Lindahl clarified that the unit price would be too low.
Chair Masloski continued that the City was already behind, and was concerned that it
could become further behind. The City was in a deficit oflarger parks.
Table 2 showed a surplus of neighborhood parks. There was still a surplus ofmini parks.
Table 3 showed for existing parks acreage numbers would be amended. He would
attempt to schedule a joint meeting with the City Council. He requested that any
comments or concerns from residents should contact the City.
Motion by Butler, seconded by Scott, to table the item to a future meeting. Motion
carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote.
DISCUSS ANDOVER STATION NORTH BALL FIELD FACILITY/STATUS OF
PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT/07-16
Chair Masloski stated there were a couple oflocations recommended.
Mr. Haas gave the background to the item. He had asked the developer for suggestions.
The developer suggested putting the playground on Jay Street or behind the town homes
on Martin Street.
Commissioner Hupp asked for clarification if the park dedication was cash in lieu of
land. Mr. Haas answered that it was correct, and the money had gone to the fields and
the building with the understanding that a neighborhood playground would be located on
the facility. He reminded the Commission that it was in the CIP for this year but it may
have to be installed next year.
Commissioner Hupp stated he wanted the playground close to the fields, and noted the
advantages.
Commissioner Boyer inquired about the type of houses in the development. Mr. Haas
responded that they were town homes and single family homes. He added there is
existing playground equipment across the Hanson Boulevard in Hills of Bunker Lake
West Park.
Commissioner Lindahl added there was a playground across the swamp. He noted the
original concept was a playground on the fields. The ball fields were a draw, and the
Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting
Minutes - August 16, 2007
Page 4
playground needed to be closer to the fields. Chair Masloski inquired if it could be
between the fields with drain fields added, or where Mr. Dietz suggested. Commissioner
Lindahl stated that at that location, the balls regularly strayed there were line drives with
much more power than merely foul balls.
Chair Masloski inquired about the amount of property the City had adjacent to the fields.
Mr. Haas stated that the Commission would address the item again. A decision needs to
be made, and presented to Council.
REVIEW OUTSTANDING ITEMS
Mr. Haas reviewed outstanding items. He indicated that for Andover Station North Ball
Field that Andover Baseball Association is still taking donations, and should contact the
association if anyone wanted to participate or make a donation. Crooked Lake Boat
Landing would be open by August 31, 2007 for use by the public with the final
restoration items (including the rain garden) is scheduled to be completed by the middle
of September. Terrace Park is scheduled to be completed by the middle of September.
For Strootman Park, a three-row bleacher will need to be purchased, and there will need
to be fencing along the pond between the pond and the parking lot.
Chair Masloski mentioned that some of the plantings were dead or dying at Oakview
Park.
Mr. Haas requested that Commissioners meet at Strootman Park prior to the next
meeting.
CHAIR'S REPORT
Commissioner Kowalewski stated the Andover Huskies have their first game on August
30, 2007. Commissioner Hupp added there was a fundraiser for the football team and all
the proceeds went to football.
Commissioner Boyer stated that there were landscape issues at Timber Rivers Park and
requested staff to look into this.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Butler, seconded by Scott, to adjourn the meeting at 8:15 p.m. Motion carried
on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote.
Respectfully Submitted,
Brigette Blesi, Recording Secretary
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1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N,W, . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (763) 755-5100
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TO:
Park & Recreation Commission
FROM:
Todd J. Haas, Park Coordinator
SUBJECT: 4. Update of Andover Park Dedication Study/06-46D
DATE:
September 6, 2007
INTRODUCTION
This item is in regard to the update of the Andover Park Dedication Study, Project 06-
46D.
DISCUSSION
As you may recall, the study was presented to the Commission at the last meeting for
review. Chairman Masloski did raise a question about Table 4 in regards to the
Andover population estimates and why some of the population numbers did not grow.
City staff since the last meeting did discuss this with the Community Development
Director. As you can see the persons per household decreases from 3.28 in 2010 to
2,80 in 2030 and this is the reason why the population does not increase as you would
expect.
The draft of this study is scheduled to be on the agenda for the joint meeting with the
City Council which is scheduled for September 20th.
ACTION REQUIRED
No action is necessary.
Respectfully submitted,
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City staff indicated that although the existing parkland consists of a multitude of smaller
Mini and Neighborhood Parks, the City may not continue acquisition of similar land in
the future due to the high cost of maintenance associated with the dispersed locations
of these parks within the community. The current system is adequate to provide for
lands within the projected MUSA boundary. The bulk of the lands outside of the
ultimate MUSA are planned to develop as 2.5 acre residential lots. The acreage lots
provide enough land area for private recreation purposes that is larger than that typically
dedicated for mini parks (2 acres or less). As such, the City may choose to add
additional property to some of the existing mini park areas or look to acquire
neighborhood parks in the future.
Table 2 and Exhibit A, Park Service Area Map, illustrates that as the City grows within
the 2030 MUSA, the current Neighborhood Parks provide sufficient acreage and
distribution to accomplish the Comprehensive Plan recommendations. Additional
community parks and community playfields must yet be acquired and developed.
ANDOVER PARK ACREAGE COMPARISON WITH NATIONAL STANDARDS
The existing park system was further analyzed in terms of the service area per 1,000 .
population guidelines established by the National Recreation and Park Association.
. The projected 2030 population figure of 39,034 was used to evaluate the park system
acreage. The following table indicates that the City currently exceeds the park acres per
1,000 population guidelines in all park categories with the exception of Community
Parks where the current system is about 2 acres short. It should be noted that the park
acreages listed in the "Existing Park Acres' column in Table 3 represent the amount of
acres of park owned by the City and net buildable park acres. However, even when the
existing unbuildable acres are deleted, the existing park system still has more park
acres than suggested by the National Recreation and Park Association Guidelines.
PARK TYPE SERVICE NRPA EXISTING PARK NRPA
AREAl STANDARD2 ACRES SUGGESTED
GROSS BUILDABLE ACRES3
Mini Park Y.Mile .38 ad1000 40 36 15
Neighborhood Park y.-Yz 3 ad1000 254 193 117
Mile
Community Park 2 Mile 6.5 ad1000 176 176 254
Community Plavfield 2 Mile 2.25 ad1000 95 95 88
Total Acres 565 500 474
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TABLE 3
Metropolitan Council GUideline (Park FaCIlity Service Area)
2 National Recreation and Park Association Guidelines (Acres of Park per 1,000 Population)
3 National Recreation and Park Association Guidelines (Based upon 2030 Population of 39,024)
COMMUNITY GROWTH
The City's existing and future population and household growth will be compared to City
park system value estimates to provide a proportionate park dedication fee. The
Andover Comprehensive Plan forecasts a 2030 population of approximately 39,034
"DRAFT" -August 14, 2007
City of Andover
Park Dedication Report
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people in 13,941 households (excluding the Rural Reserve Area). This level of
anticipated future development is in the City's 2030 MUSA and the City's rural service
areas (again excluding the Rural Reserve Area). In this study, Andover's current
estimated household count of 9,938 represents approximately 73% of the City's 2030
population forecast.
In 2001, as a requirement of Metropolitan Council approval of Andover's 2020
Comprehensive Plan, the City undertook a Rural Reserve Area Study that identified a
Rural Reserve Area for potential future urban growth beyond the current 2020 MUSA.
The Rural Reserve Area which was approved as a future growth area is indicated on
Exhibit A, Park Service Area Map (660 net buildable acres for housing). Table 4
illustrates the population and household estimates of the City based upon 2000 U.S.
Census data, using ten-year increments of population and household projections cited
in the Sewer/Land usefTransportation Chapter of the Comprehensive Plan (currently
being updated)) to determine total community build out population (excluding the Rural
Reserve Area).
TABLE 4
ANDOVER POPULATION AND HOUSEHOLD ESTIMATES
. POPULATION HOUSEHOLDS Persons/Household
2000 Census 26,588 8,659 3.28
2010 Estimate 37,392 11 ,400 3.28
2020 Estimate 36,084 12,028 3.00
2030 Estimate 39,034 13,941 2,80
This update to the park dedication study will rely on the following demographic
estimates. The City will have a 2030 population of 39,034 people and a 2030
household count of 13,941 according to the City's Comprehensive Plan (excluding the
Rural Reserve Area).
RURAL RESERVE AREA PARK NEEDS
The Rural Reserve Area demographic forecasts are not included in the 2030 forecasts
as it is unsure when the area will develop and at what density. As mentioned previously
the park needs for the area will be determined when the area is ready for development
and a comprehensive plan amendment will account for what parks will be developed in
the area.
PARK DEDICATION ANALYSIS - RAW LAND VALUE VS. VALUE AT FINAL PLAT
Pursuant to State Statute, the City can collect park dedication based upon the value of
land at the time of final plat. The value should include raw land value plus the value
from lots created by final plat approval. The land value at final plat should comprise the
retail value of the lot less improvement costs. Historically residential developers identify
typical lot improvement costs (assuming an 80 foot wide lot), associated with single-
"DRAFT" - August 14, 2007
City of Andover
Park Dedication Report
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City staff indicated that although the existing parkland consists of a multitude of smaller
Mini and Neighborhood Parks, the City may not continue acquisition of similar land in
the future due to the high cost of maintenance associated with the dispersed locations
of these parks within the community. The current system is adequate to provide for
lands within the projected MUSA boundary. The bulk of the lands outside of the
ultimate MUSA are planned to develop as 2.5 acre residential lots. The acreage lots
provide enough land area for private recreation purposes that is larger than that typically
dedicated for mini parks (2 acres or less). As such, the City may choose to add
additional property to some of the existing mini park areas or look to acquire
neighborhood parks in the future.
Table 2 and Exhibit A, Park Service Area Map, illustrates that as the City grows within
the 2030 MUSA, the current Neighborhood Parks provide sufficient acreage and
distribution to accomplish the Comprehensive Plan recommendations. Additional
community parks and community playfields must yet be acquired and developed.
ANDOVER PARK ACREAGE COMPARISON WITH NATIONAL STANDARDS
The existing park system was further analyzed in terms of the service area per 1,000
population guidelines established by the National Recreation and Park Association.
The projected 2030 population figure of 39,034 was used to evaluate the park system
acreage. The following table indicates that the City currently exceeds the park acres per
1,000 population guidelines in all park categories with the exception of Community
Parks where the current system is about 2 acres short. It should be noted that the park
acreages listed in the "Existing Park Acres" column in Table 3 represent the amount of
acres of park owned by the City and net buildable park acres. However, even when the
existing unbuildable acres are deleted, the existing park system still has more park
acres than suggested by the National Recreation and Park Association Guidelines.
PARK TYPE SERVICE NRPA EXISTING PARK NRPA
AREAl STANDARD2 ACRES SUGGESTED
GROSS BUILDABLE ACRES3
Mini Park % Mile .38 acl1000 40 36 15
Neighborhood Park %-~ 3 acl1000 254 193 117
Mile
Community Park 2 Mile 6.5 acl1000 176 176 254
Community Plavfield 2 Mile 2.25 acl1000 95 95 88
Total Acres 565 500 474
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TABLE 3
Metropolitan Council GUideline (Park FaCIlity Service Area)
2 National Recreation and Park Association Guidelines (Acres of Park per 1,000 Population)
3 National Recreation and Park Association Guidelines (Based upon 2030 Population of 39,024)
COMMUNITY GROWTH
The City's existing and future population and household growth will be compared to City
park system value estimates to provide a proportionate park dedication fee. The
Andover Comprehensive Plan forecasts a 2030 population of approximately 39,034
"DRAFT" - August 14, 2007
City of Andover
Park Dedication Report
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1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W, . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (763) 755-5100
FAX (763) 755-8923 . WWW.CI.ANDOVER,MN,US
TO:
Park & Recreation Commission
FROM:
Todd J. Haas, Park Coordinator
SUBJECT: 5. Discuss Location of Playground Equipment at Andover Station
North/07 -16
DATE:
September 6, 2007
INTRODUCTION
This item is in regard to the potential locations for the playground equipment at Andover
Station North.
DISCUSSION
Both myself and Jim Dickinson, City Administrator, have been to the site and appears
that if the Commission would like to have the equipment somewhere near the park, as
was suggested at the last meeting, it appears that the only location that will work better
is again along the 3rd base line of the west between the parking lot and the field itself.
Anywhere along the 3rd base will work.
It is suggested that each of the Commission members stop to the site before Thursdays
meeting.
Note: The area between the west and middle field is planned to be regraded to allow
the drainage to work better. So with that happening this location will not be a
good choice. This item is scheduled to be discussed at the joint meeting with the
City Council.
ACTION REQUIRED
No action is necessary at this time.
Respectfully submitted,
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Todd J. Haas
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1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N,W, . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (763) 755-5100
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TO: Park & Recreation Commission
FROM: Todd J. Haas, Park Coordinator
SUBJECT: 6. Discuss Joint Meeting Scheduled with City Council
DATE: September 6, 2007
INTRODUCTION
This item is in regard to the joint meeting that has been scheduled with the City Council.
DISCUSSION
The joint meeting with the City Council has been scheduled for Thursday, September
20, 2007 at 7:00 P.M.
The items to be discussed at the joint meeting are as follows:
. Update of the Park Comprehensive Plan, 06-46D
. Discuss the proposed 2008-2012 CIP that is being recommended by the Park
Commission
. Discuss Andover Station North Field Facility/Status of Playground Equipment,
07-16
ACTION REQUIRED
No action is necessary unless the Park Commission has other items they would like to
talk about.
Respectfully submitted,
T~~~
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TO:
Park & Recreation Commission
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FROM:
Todd J, Haas, Asst. Public Works Director/Parks Coordinator
SUBJECT: 7. Review Outstanding Items
DATE: September 6,2007
Issues list as of 9/4/07
COMPLETED PROJECTS
.
ON-GOING PROJECTS
o Develop Site Plans for all existing parks which indicates the facilities available. (On-Going),
o Andover Station North Park (property south of the old landfill) - Pretty much everything is done.
There are a few punch list items the contractor needs to complete in the spring, but otherwise
everything is completed. Construction of the building is still going strong. To date the roof is on. The
floors will be poured within the next week or so along with the installation of the doors.
o Oakview Park - Most of the landscaping has been completed. Trees will be installed later this fall.
Note: Public Works Parks Department will also replace any trees that may be dead.
D Update of Park Dedication Improvement Fund Quarterly Report - Next report is due in October.
o Update of Quarterly Sheriff's Department Report on Park Patrol & Vandalism - Next report is due
in October.
o Comprehensive Plan - Item is on the agenda as part of the joint meeting with the City Council on
September 20th .
o Crooked Lake Boat LandinQ - The reconstruction of the boat landing is substantially complete, The
boat ramp is open to the public for use. Restoration and all other items will be completed by September
14th,
o Terrace Park - The same contractor doing Crooked Lake Boat Landing will be constructing a new
parking lot and basketball court. Completion is anticipated by the middle of September. The parking
lot has been paved. Stop by if you are interested in seeing the progress of the construction.
o Strootman Park - The fencing and concrete work has been completed. The seeding is done but there
will be areas that will need to be reseeded due to the heavy rains that have washed away some of the
seed. I would suggest if you haven't been to the park that each of the Commission members stop by
and see the nice work that was done by contractors the City hired and by Public Works Parks
Department. The Commission is scheduled to meet at the park at 7pm,
ON HOLD
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TASK FORCE UPDATES
Skateboard Task Force - No updates to report,
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OTHER ITEMS OF INTEREST
o The field lights are now working at Andover Station North Ball Fields for the west and middle fields. The
associations will be able to use them right away for games and practices.
o Just so you know, a joint meeting will be scheduled with the City Council on September 20th. Items that
are tentatively to be discussed at the meeting include the update of the comprehensive plan, the 2008-
2012 Parks CIP and the status of the playground equipment at Andover Station North development
area.
Note: If you have any items that you would like to add to the list, let me know at the meeting.
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