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PARKAND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING -NOVEMBER 16, 2006
MINUTES
The regular Bi-monthly Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was
called to order by Chair Masloski on November 16, 2006, 7:07 p.m., at Andover City
Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Mllmesota
Commissioners Present:
Chair Dan Masloski, Wendy Albee, Jeremy Boyer, Dave
Blackstad, Bill Hupp, and Ernest Bedor
Commissioners Absent:
Jim Lindahl
Also Present:
Parks Coordinator, Todd Haas
RESIDENTS FORUM
There were no comments at this time.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The November 2, 2006 meeting minutes were amended as follows:
Page 6, paragraph nine: "Chair Masloski stated that it happened occasionally in every
city."
Motion by Commissioner Blackstad, seconded by Commissioner Hupp, to approve the
November 2,2006 Park Commission minutes as presented. Motion carried on a 6-ayes,
O-nays, I-absent (Lindahl) vote.
CONSIDER 2006-2007 HOCKEY RINK SCHEDULE
Parks Coordinator Haas reviewed the background and application. He indicated that the
Andover Huskies Youth Hockey Association was requesting the same rinks as last year.
Tony Howard of 2119-156th A venue and President of Andover Huskies Youth Hockey
Association introduced himself
Commissioner Blackstad requested that any hours the association did not need, if they
could be taken off the schedule as soon as possible. Mr. Howard responded that he
would remove any unneeded hours in a timely manner, however the association was
growing in participants.
Chair Masloski requested that the schedule be posted at the rinks so that people would
know.
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Motion by Commissioner Boyer, seconded by Commissioner Hupp to approve the
Andover Huskies Youth Hockey Association schedule. Motion carried 6-ayes, O-nays, 1-
absent (Lindahl) vote.
Mr. Howard inquired about a possible rink at Andover Station North. He stated there
were only three rinks in the City, and his goal was to add 100 kids to the association.
They were already tight on ice time and bought ice time at other rinks in other cities. He
requested that the Commission address the issue of temporary rinks in other parks.
Chair Masloski inquired if there were parks with temporary boards. Commissioner Hupp
inquired about the ability to place a rink west of the ball fields at Andover Station North.
Parks Coordinator Haas indicated he believed that a rink would impact the sliding hill
already in place. There were no other areas appropriate for a rink to his knowledge.
Chair Masloski inquired if the City had any temporary boards available. Mr. Howard
indicated that he could provide the labor if there were temporary boards available at an
appropriate location.
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Commissioner Hupp requested staff look for viable options. Parks Coordinator Haas
noted it might be difficult for Public Works to do this, as the main priority was to
maintain the three main rinks. He indicated that Hawk Ridge Park will need additional
work (grading, ect.) to allow for a 2nd outdoor hockey rink at this park.
Commissioner Blackstad mentioned it needed a water source. Parks Coordinator Haas
agreed with Blackstad.
Commissioner Hupp reminded the Commission that the idea of multiple-use would be
incorporated into the rink as well.
CONSIDER GUIDELINES FOR FIELD USAGE BY YOUTH ATHLETIC
ASSOCIATIONS
Chair Masloski reviewed the background of the item. The document was the result of
several meetings between the youth associations and Commission. He opened the
discussion.
Commissioner Albee indicated she was not in favor of the second tier format, but wanted
more equal opportunity. Commissioner Hupp stated he agreed with Albee. The Articles
of Incorporation requirement was an issue for him.
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Commissioner Bedor noted that the drafting of the Articles of Incorporation did not
require a lawyer. Chair Masloski added that the word "equivalent" was inserted to
address the associations on a case-by-case basis. He indicated the Commission has a
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process to allocate fields, so that no one would be eliminated. They needed to fmd ways
to develop guidelines for the use of the parks by the youth associations. This was a good
process as they moved forward towards setting the guidelines. He admitted that at times
it was tedious, but the final document that was drafted was a good working document.
Motion by Commissioner Blackstad, seconded by Commissioner Boyer to recommend to
the City Council approval of the Guidelines for Field Usage by Youth Athletic
Associations as written. Motion carried 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Lindahl) vote.
Parks Coordinator Haas stated a representative from the Commission was needed for the
meeting December 5, 2006 with the City Council to present the guidelines and answer
any questions they may have. Chair Masloski will be present at the meeting to do so.
UPDATE ON CELL PHONE TOWERS IN PUBLIC PARKS, CONTINUED
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Parks Coordinator Haas stated the parks were researched for appropriateness of cell
phone towers. Current City Codes requires that parks must be at least 10 acres in size
and be located outside the MUSA before a cell tower could be considered. In addition,
the cell tower must be no closer than 500 feet from a dwelling unit. After review of all
the parks outside the MUSA and were of 10 acres in size, Kelsey Round Lake Park and
Birchwood Park were the only 2 parks that met this requirement. The only other
requirement that needed to be satisfied was the SOO-foot spacing requirement from a
dwelling unit to the cell tower itself. It appears there is a small area within the
Birchwood Park that would satisfy this requirement towards the south end of the park.
Portions of Kelsey Round Lake Park would also have areas but the problem with this
park is that LA WCON grant funds from the Minnesota DNR were used to develop this
park. In addition, per their rules, cell phone towers are not considered park uses.
Commissioner Blackstad noted he spoke with Jim Dickinson, City Administrator, who
has received two to four calls per week from cell phone companies looking for potential
sites within the city to install additional towers.
Commissioner Bedor inquired about the necessity to place a tower in the parks. Parks
Coordinator Haas responded that the money generated could go directly into the
development of this park or other parks. The City Code regulates the 10-acre
requirement, but it could be amended if the City Council would like to consider that.
Commissioner Hupp stated he was in favor of an independent revenue source, and was
also in favor of amending the City Code requirement of 10 acres for a tower. Parks
Coordinator Haas stated the 500 feet from a house was also a potential impediment.
Commissioner Hupp mentioned that the towers were not as ominous as they used to be.
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Chair Masloski inquired if there were any towers on the water towers. Parks Coordinator
Haas answered that there are some located on the water tower at City Hall.
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Chair Masloski questioned Parks Coordinator Haas how did it occur when it was closer
than 500 feet from a house. Parks Coordinator Haas responded that it must have been
grandfathered in but he discuss this with the Community Development Department.
Chair Masloski requested to table the issue to the next meeting.
HILLS OF BUNKER LAKE WEST PARK SECURITY LIGHT UPDATE
Chair Masloski reminded the Commission that the issue was raised from a concerned
citizen at the last meeting. Pfll'ks Coordinator Haas added that he researched the issue
and found that it would cost $4,700 to install a security light. Currently there is no
funding available from the 2006 miscellaneous fund. There is some money that will be
set aside in the 2007 miscellaneous fund for these types of projects if the Commission
wanted to consider this for 2007.
Commissioner Bedor asked Haas to characterize the situation. Parks Coordinator Haas
stated it was basically playground equipment at that location and a ball field.
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Chair Masloski suggesting tabling the item to 2007. Parks Coordinator Haas noted that
staff would like a light to inhibit vandalism of the playground equipment. A concern was .
that the playground was not next to the road.
Commissioner Bedor asked for clarification if it had become standard to install a security
light when a park was put in. Parks Coordinator Haas responded that it depended on the
situation.
Commissioner Bedor stated it appeared that the playground equipment needed a light.
Parks Coordinator Haas admitted that at lights at other parks throughout other parts of the
City have been helpful to minimize vandalism to the parks.
UPDATE OF PARKS WITH WELLSIMUNICIPAL WATER
Parks Coordinator Haas indicated that some of this discussion took place at a joint
meeting with the City Council on September 21,2006. If you recall, the Commission and
Council were interested in knowing which parks had municipal water and which parks
had private wells. There were a total of 7 parks that were served with municipal wells
and 1 park (prairie Knoll) that had a private well. He noted that Commission really needs
to evaluate which parks located outside the MUSA that should be irrigated, as it seems
right now that is where the attention is really needed.
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Chair Masloski stated this information provided would helpful in evaluating parks as part
of any future CIP discussion.
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Commissioner Hupp inquired if a smaller building to do these types of improvements
was possible, so that it could be done more reasonably. Parks Coordinator Haas
responded that Hawk Ridge Park was a good example where the city could construct a
building to house the irrigation controls and to also construct a warming house and/or
storage area It would be something smaller than what was constructed at Prairie Knoll
Park. The size of the well would be determined by the size of area to irrigate. Public
Works would prefer to have a private well for flooding of the rinks. Currently Public
Works hauls water from Public Works to Hawkridge Park during the winter months to
flood the rinks.
REVIEW OUTSTANDING ITEMS
Parks Coordinator Haas reviewed the items.
CHAIR'S REPORT
Commissioner Hupp thanked the residents for voting. He heard that 70% of the City
participated.
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Chair Masloski indicated he attended a Minnesota Parks and Recreational Association
annual conference where diversified parks were one of the topics with Frisbee golf, and
green space as part of the discussion as welL He believed that the Andover current park
system was coming together, but it needed funding.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Blackstad, seconded by Commissioner Hupp, to adjourn the
meeting at 7:41 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, I-nay, I-absent vote (Lindahl).
Respectfully submitted,
Brigette Blesi, Recording Secretary
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