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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMarch 14, 2006 o o o ~~ Ltnltfcn 3-~~~~ 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (763) 755-5100 FAX (763) 755-8923 . WWW.CI.ANDOVER.MN.US PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - MARCH 14,2006 The Regular Bi-Montbly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Chairperson Daninger on March 14, 2006, 7:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota Commissioners present: Chairperson Daninger, Commissioners Tim Kirchoff, Rex Greenwald (arrived at 7:03 p.m.), Michael Casey, Valerie Holthus, Devon Walton (arrived at 7:05 p.m.) and Michael King. Commissioners absent: There were none. Also present: Associate Planner, Andy Cross Associate Planner, Chris Vrchota Others APPROVAL OF MINUTES. February 28, 2006 Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Casey, to approve the minutes as presented. Motion - carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Greenwald and Walton) vote. Commissioner Greenwald arrived at 7:03 p.m. PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING (06-02) TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM GENERAL BUSINESS (GB) TO MULTIPLE DWELLING (M-1) FOR PROPERTY LOCATED IN THE NORTHEAST QUARTER OF SECTION 34, TOWNSHIP 32, RANGE 24, ANOKA COUNTY, MINNESOTA. Chairperson Daninger stated the Commission would be voting on the rezoning and revised preliminary plat separately, but the public hearing would pertain to both issues. Mr. Vrchota explained the Planning Commission is asked to review the proposed rezoning and revised preliminary plat to allow the revised Parkside at Andover Station plat to move forward. o Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - March 14, 2006 Page 2 Mr. Vrchota discussed the staff reports with the Commission. Commissioner Walton arrived at 7:05 p.m. Motion by Casey, seconded by Holthus, to open the public hearing at 7:05 p.m. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. There was no public input. Motion by Walton, seconded by Casey, to close the public hearing at 7:07 p.m, Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. Commissioner Holthus asked if there was anywhere else on the development where there were two story buildings. She asked if staff had a diagram of what the building would look like. Mr. Vrchota responded applicant was present who could answer questions, but he did not have a diagram of the buildings. o Greg Schlink, representative of the applicant, responded the units that were clustered in 8 four-unit buildings were the two story units. In terms of elevation, they presented those at the initial Planning Commission meeting. He presented a photograph of the one and two story buildings that were very similar to what would be built. Chairperson Daninger stated he was always concerned about buffering and screening. He asked if this had anything to do with the existing residential area. Mr. Schlink responded the only residential involved was along the west side, which had already been addressed. Commissioner Greenwald asked if there would be a property owner's association and if so what were the monthly fees of the association. Mr. Schlink replied he did not have that information at this time. Commissioner Greenwald inquired about the widths of the road and curbing. Mr. Schlink responded the streets had a 6O-foot right of way and would be built to City standards. Commissioner Walton asked why phase one was only two story units and phase two had all of the one story units. Mr. Schlink responded a portion of the site was being sold to Pulte Homes who would build the two story units and they intended on building the two story homes right away. o Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Casey, to recommend to the City Council approval of Rezoning (06-02) from General Business (GB) to Multiple Dwelling (M-I) for property located in the northeast quarter of Section 34, Township 32, Range 24, Anoka County, Minnesota. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. o Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - March 14, 2006 Page 3 Mr. Vrchota stated that this item would be before the Council at the March 21,2006 City Council meeting. PUBLIC HEARING: REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAT AND PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT REVIEW OF PARKSIDE AT ANDOVER STATION IN THE NORTHEAST QUARTER OF SECTION 23, TOWNSHIP 32, RANGE 24, ANOKA COUNTY, MINNESOTA. Motion by Walton, seconded by Casey, to recommend to the City Council approval of the revised preliminary plat subject to the conditions in the resolution. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. Mr. Vrchota stated that this item would be before the Council at the March 21, 2006 City Council meeting. PUBLIC HEARING: RESIDENTIAL SKETCH PLAN FOR SINGLE FAMILY URBAN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT LOCATED WEST OF COUNTRY OAKS WEST AND NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF HANSON BOULEVARD AND 161sT A VENUE NW. o Mr. Cross explained the Planning Commission is asked to review a residential sketch plan for a single-family urban residential development. Mr. Cross discussed the staff report with the Commission. Commissioner Kirchoff inquired about Lot 11, Block 4. Mr. Cross stated one lot was 8 square feet short of the minimum so in order for this to proceed, the developer would be required to bring that lot into compliance. Commissioner Greenwald inquired about 161 st Avenue NW. He asked who was paying for the improvements. Mr. Cross responded the improvements would be shared by those who benefited from it, including the proposed development. He noted the existing properties would not be forced to shoulder any additional cost of the improvements. He indicated the City would apply State Aid funds to help pay for the improvements. Commissioner Greenwald asked how the future ghost plats would be addressed. Mr. Cross replied the areas that were not being developed right now and thus would not be contributing to the intersection improvements. Commissioner Greenwald asked if the City of Andover would incur any expense in improving this road. Mr. Cross responded the City would not, it would be paid for by State Aid. o '1 o Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - March 14, 2006 Page 4 Commissioner Walton inquired what the access point would be for Block 2, Lot 1. Mr. Cross responded one thought would be to combine Lot 1 and 2 with the intent of splitting the lot later on when the street was constructed to allow access. Chairperson Daninger inquired about the intersection movements. Mr. Cross stated there were a couple of options, one being a right in-right out movement and the other option would be a through lane with a by-pass lane. He noted the County had presented these options, but the ultimate decision would probably be left up to the developer. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Casey, to open the public hearing at 7:36 p.m. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. Winslow Holasek asked if 161 st Avenue NW was a County Road and was it planned to stay a County Road. Mr. Cross responded it was a County State Highway and it would remain as such. Winslow Holasek asked if the State Aid could be spent on an MSA County Road. Chairperson Daninger responded they did not know if this was an MSA County Road. o Winslow Holasek asked if the City could spend State Aid funds on a County Road. Chairperson Daninger responded he did not have that answer, but he would have staff get back to him. Winslow Holasek asked if in the future would the County allow a street to go out onto Hanson Boulevard where the ghost plat was located and if so would the same improvements be required. He asked who would pay for that improvement. Chairperson Daninger noted they were not addressing this lot at this time, but it would need to be kept in mind for any future development. Winslow Holasek asked if there was sufficient sewer capacity for these additional lots. Chairperson Daninger stated he believed this had been resolved, but indicated staff would look into this. Motion by Casey, seconded by Greenwald, to close the public hearing at 7:44 p.m. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. Commissioner Greenwald asked if there was an existing building on Lot 5. Chairperson Daninger stated if there was a structure on that lot that did not conform. it would be need to be removed. Mr. Cross noted that property would conform, but the building on Lot 26 would not conform and it would be removed. o Commissioner Greenwald expressed concern about emergency vehicles being able to get back onto 161 st Lane if there was some blockage in the road. Chairperson Daninger o Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - March 14, 2006 Page 5 asked if it was possible to make some type of a circle type street to eliminate the cul-de- sac. Mr. Cross stated this was the only plan brought forward, but the developer was on hand to answer questions. Commissioner Walton asked on Block 5, Lot 18 what happened with the existing well and septic system on that residence. Mr. Cross stated no septic system would be allowed to remain in use if it did not comply with the standards, but it the septic system was still functioning, they would not be required to hook up to the sewer system. However, they would still be required to pay for a sewer stub. He indicated a well would need to be capped off as it was no longer in use. He stated all of this would be reviewed in-depth. Larry Emmerich, 1341161st Avenue NW, applicant, and Mike Brandt, Engineer, were present for questions. o Chairperson Daninger asked if they had looked at a looping type road to eliminate the cul-de-sac. Mike Brandt responded they had looked at this possibility, but there were wetland issues that prevented the looping they were asking for. He noted the reason they had these roads set out the way they were proposing did meet all of the City's transportation plans. Commissioner Kirchoff asked what the sewer capacity was. Mike Brandt replied there were 77 lots remaining after the transition of the entire area. Mr. Emmerich stated the total number was 185 for both Country Oaks and this project. He indicated County Oaks had 106, 3 were spoken for by a neighboring property to the east, which left 77 units for the remaining parceL Chairperson Daninger stated the Commission preferred no cul-de-sac and something needed to be done with Lot 1 and 3. Commissioner Kirchoff stated he would support the County suggestion of the full intersection at 161st and not have a right-in and right-out intersection. VARIANCE (06-01) TO CONSIDER VARIANCE TO FRONT YARD SETBACK FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 16552 VERDIN STREET NW. Mr. Vrchota explained the applicants are requesting a 20-foot variance to the front yard setback requirement to allow for the construction of an attached garage. o Mr. Vrchota discussed the staff report with the Commission. o Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - March 14, 2006 Page 6 Commissioner Greenwald asked ifthere were trees on the garage side. James Pierson, 16552 Verdin Street NW, the applicant, responded there were a lot of trees between him and his neighbor. He indicated he had to remove some box elder to put in the garage, but he had intended to take down those trees whether he built the garage or not. Chairperson Daninger noted this was not a public hearing, but they would allow public comments. Lorna Erickson, 2435 1 66th Avenue, asked what would happen with the existing driveway. She stated she had spoken with someone at the County who indicated they did not know about the moving of the driveway, but she understood the driveway had already been approved. She expressed concern about the site lines of the driveway. Chairperson Daninger noted this was a recommending body only and this would be at the Council meeting by March 21. He stated staff would have an answer at the Council meeting. Commissioner Holthus asked if there was another driveway to the north onto the side street. Mr. Pierson shook his head no. o Chairperson Daninger asked what would happen to the existing driveway. Mr. Vrchota responded the existing driveway would need to be removed and would need to meet the slope of the adjoining property. Also, some brush would need to be removed for clear site lines for the driveway. Commissioner IGrchoff stated the permit would not be applied for until it was approved by Council and that was why the County would not have a record of a permit. He stated he supported the moving of the driveway. Commissioner Holthus believed this was a good idea also because where the driveway was now she believed it was more hidden than where they were proposing to put the new driveway. Motion by Walton, seconded by Casey, to recommend to the City Council approval of the proposed variance to the front yard setback. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, O-nays, 0- absent vote. Mr. Vrchota stated that this item would be before the Council at the March 21, 2006 City Council meeting. PUBLIC HEARING: ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO CONSIDER LICENSING REQUIREMENT SAND PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR VEHICLE SALES. o Mr. Cross explained this item continues the discussion from the February 14 and February 28 meetings. Mr. Cross discussed the staff report with the Commission. o Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - March 14, 2006 Page 7 Chairperson Daninger noted staffhad received an email from Eric Kohnke, 921 158th Avenue NW, in favor of this Ordinance. Motion by Casey, seconded by Walton, to open the public hearing at 8:15 p.m. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, a-nays, a-absent vote. Joe Braband, 16351 G1adiola Street, stated there was a discussion about the vehicle weight which was something he had suggested. He stated GBW needed to be added to the 12,500 pound GVW. He indicated the weight of the vehicle was irrelevant. He noted with the 10,000 pound weight that would broaden this and allow a very large vehicle. He stated they wanted to look at the GVW, not at the actual weight of the vehicle. He indicated a 10,000 pound vehicle was Ii very large vehicle. He noted with respect to the vehicle repair issue, he stated it was required by law that new vehicle dealers have a repair facility on their site. He stated the restriction of automotive repair on site was not the original intent. He indicated the Council was aware that he had automotive repair on his site and it was not their intent to restrict the repair, but instead they were concerned about signage, etc. Lorna Erickson, 2435 166th Avenue, stated she supported Mr. Braband. o Motion by Casey, seconded by Kirchoff, to close the public hearing at 8:23 p.m. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, a-nays, a-absent vote. Chairperson Daninger stated it was their intent to measure the vehicle by GVW and not actual weight. Commissioner Walton stated he would like to see the chart staffhad prepared again, but he did not want to hold this item up with this request. Commissioner Kirchoff noted item "I" was stricken. He asked if this should remain or was it part of item "H". Mr. Cross responded that item would remain as item "I". Commissioner Greenwald asked if Mr. Braband could remain in business with condition "I" as written. Mr. Braband shook his head no. Commissioner Walton stated Mr. Braband had indicated he needed a full repair shop in order to stay in business. Commissioner Greenwald noted they were wasting their time if item "I" remained as it was written, which would not allow Mr. Braband to remain in business. Chairperson Daninger stated he wanted this to go forward with this and the spirit and intent was not as written and Council could change this. o Commissioner Greenwald stated Mr. Braband should come up with a statement that could be agreed upon by Council. He noted as it was written, he could not approve this. o Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - March 14, 2006 Page 8 Commissioner King noted the facility on the property already performed a repair business, he should be allowed to continue. Chairperson Daninger noted they were not just considering this particular property and they were looking at this as a whole. He noted this particular business might be able to get a Conditional Use Permit if needed. Commissioner Walton asked what has happened in the past when ordinance changes came close to going to Council. He asked if it has been tabled for further information. Chairperson Daninger stated it was rare if after a public hearing an issue is tabled. He , stated while they were not at 100 percent, they had come to a compromise and if the spirit or intent of this was not what they were thinking, it could be changed prior to the Council meeting. Commissioner Greenwald stated they could pass this on. except for 3-8-8(1) that this should be researched by staff. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Casey, to recommend to the City Council approval of the Ordinance Amendment to consider licensing requirements and performance standards for vehicle sales with 3-8-7(C) to allow 12,500 GVW weight and on 3-8-8(I) staff to research if the part stricken out should be stricken as well as this being too restrictive. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. o Mr. Cross stated that this item would be before the Council at the April 4, 2006 City Council meeting. PUBLIC HEARING: SIGN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO CONSIDER REVISIONS TO CITY CODE 12-13-8. Mr. Vrchota explained this item continues the discussion from the February 28th meeting. Mr. Vrchota discussed the staff report with the Commission. Commissioner Greenwald stated he had a concern about C.4 (page 13) height of the sign not being taller than the highest outside wall or parapet. Mr. Vrchota noted the sign could be put in front of the parapet, but not above the roofline if there was no parapet. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Walton, to open the public hearing at 8:40 p.m. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. There was no public input. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Casey, to close the public hearing at 8:41 p.m. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. o o Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - March 14, 2006 Page 9 Commissioner Walton stated he believed memorials and dedications should be covered in this also. He believed this might have been missed by staff. Mr. Vrchota noted memorial signs were only mentioned as a sign affixed to a bench. Commissioner King inquired on Page 7, Section 8, election signs, he asked if there , should be some consideration given for school board district elections, which might be different than the general election. Commissioner Greenwald suggested the signs could be displayed 90 days prior to an election until ten days after the election. Mr. Vrchota stated they would look at adding supplemental language for special election events, rather than revising the wording. Commissioner King noted on Page 17, section 12-16-7-A, the section number had a typographical error and should be changed. o Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Casey, to recommend to the City Council approval of the Sign Ordinance Amendment to consider revisions to City Code 12-13-8 with staff adding a reference to memorial signs. Staff revise Section 12-16-4A to add wording for either fixing the election wording or adding wording for special elections. Section 12-16- 5 numbers A and F are to be combined. On Page 17, reference to Section 12-16-7-A-6 to be changed to 12-16-8-A. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, a-nays, a-absent vote. Mr. Vrchota stated that this item would be before the Council at the April 4, 2006 City Council meeting. OTHER BUSINESS. None. ADJOURNMENT. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Kirchoff, to adjourn the meeting at 8:54 p.m. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, a-nays, a-absent vote. Respectfully Submitted, Kathy Altman, Recording Secretary . TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc. o