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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - JUNE 13,2006
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was
called to order by Chairperson Daninger on June 13,2006,7:00 p.m., at the Andover City
Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present:
Chairperson Daninger, Commissioners Tim Kirchoff,
Michael Casey, Valerie Holthus, and Michael King.
Commissioners absent:
Commissioners Rex Greenwald and Devon Walton.
Also present:
City Planner, Courtney Bednarz
Associate Planner, Chris Vrchota
Others
APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
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May 23, 2006
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Casey, to approve the minutes as presented. Motion
carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Greenwald, Walton) vote.
VARIANCE (06-04) TO VARY FROM THE DRIVEWAY SETBACK
REQUIREMENTS OF CITY CODE 12-13-9 TO ALLOW A SHARED DRIVEWAY
FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1947161sT AVENUENW.
Mr. Vrchota explained the applicant is requesting a variance to City Code section 12-13-
9, which requires that driveways be setback 5 feet from the property line to allow a
shared driveway access to 161st Avenue NW (County Road 20).
Mr. Vrchota discussed the staff report with the Commission.
Commissioner Kirchoff asked what the five foot setback was for the driveway. Mr,
Vrchota stated City Code requires that all driveways be setback five feet from any
property line and since this is a shared driveway, there would be a zero setback.
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Chairperson Daninger asked if one of the property owners sells, what happens to the
shared driveway. Mr. Vrchota stated that would be addressed by the shared access
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agreement and would be recorded with the properties to ensure access is permanently
granted.
Motion by KITchoff, seconded by Casey, to recommend to the City Council approval of
the proposed variance based on items one and two, the circumstances are unique to the
property that were not created by the landowner themselves and it will not be out of
character with the neighborhood. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent
(Greenwald, Walton) vote.
Mr. Vrchota stated that this item would be before the Council at the June 20, 2006 City
Council meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: RESmENTIAL SKETCH PLAN FOR A SINGLE FAMILY
URBAN RESmENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNED UNIT
DEVELOPMENT LOCATED SOUTH OF BUNKER LAKE BOULEVARD ON
SEVERAL PROPERTIES BETWEEN CROOKED LAKE BOULEVARD AND
GLADIOLA STREET NW.
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Mr. Bednarz explained the Planning Commission is asked to review a sketch plan
containing 25 detached townhomes and four existing homes that would remain. The
proposal combines several properties and the rear yards of several others into what could
be considered an infill project.
Mr. Bednarz discussed the staff report with the Commission.
Chairperson Daninger asked if it was bis understanding that the applicant was asked to be
prepared to discuss the PUD with the Planning Commission. Mr. Bednarz indicated that
was correct.
Commissioner Holthus asked under site design where it says ''typically public streets are
required to be thirty-three feet wide, however twenty-eight feet wide public streets have
been approved in PUD's in the past", is a variance required for the twenty-eight foot
street widths or is it automatically approved with the approval of a PUD. Mr. Bednarz
stated the street width and a lot of the other standards that are being requested through
the PUD would be approved as a separate list of requirements for the development. It
would not technically require a variance.
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Motion by KITchoff, seconded by Casey, to open the public hearing at 7:18 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Greenwald, Walton) vote.
Ms. Dawn Schnickles-Johnson, 1553 l40th Lane NW, distributed a prepared statement
(attached to staff report). She stated her parents live at 13526 Crooked Lake Boulevard
and her relatives and several neighbors will be impacted by this. She stated at the
neighborhood meeting the neighbors expressed their concerns and objections to this
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project. She stated there has not been any consideration on the impact this project will
have on the streets, sewer and water and the neighborhood overall. The developer chose
not to appear before the citizens and chose to send an assistant to represent this
development. She was sent unprepared with drawings and documents that did not reflect
the actual plans for the development and homes.
Ms. Scbnickles-Johnson stated this proposal is asking for several variances to be made
and in some instances the lots are not equal to the size of the existing homes in the
neighborhood. She noted that most of the residents have lived in the neighborhood for
over thirty years and take pride in the quiet peace of Andover. The thought of fifty or
more vehicles spilling out onto 135th Lane NW from two narrow roads, Gladiola and
Edelweiss, which would be twenty-eight feet instead of thirty-three feet wide, is simply
ridiculous. She also explained that it states in the proposal that they also want to a
variance to make the two cul-de-sacs eighty-two feet in diameter versus the typical
ninety-three foot, this would make it more difficult for emergency vehicles to turn around
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Ms. Scbnickles-Johnson stated the only way out of this development would be onto
Gladiola and a right turn onto Bunker Lake Boulevard heading east or onto 135th Lane
NW and north onto Crooked Lake Boulevard to make the turns to go either east or west
onto Bunker Lake Boulevard. Currently there is no stop light at that intersection and
currently with the traffic, it is already dangerous, It was explained at the meeting that
Bunker Lake Boulevard is a County Road and therefore any traffic changes would be
decided by Anoka County and not the city of Andover. She did not think this
development fit into the neighborhood.
Mr. Ernesto Gonzalez, 13354 Gladiola Street NW made a PowerPoint presentation
explaining his reasons against the proposed development. He explained he was
concerned about traffic, sewer and water, the number of proposed homes, tree loss, the
lack of trail connections, the lack of advancement of any of the goals of the
Comprehensive Plan. He stated that some trade off's may be acceptable, but the current
plan is unreasonable.
Ms. Claudia Johnston representing her mother, Ms. Germaine Hamlet at 13563
Edelweiss, stated her mother was aware that the landowners have the right to sell their
property and the developer has the right to develop the property. She thought the staff
report explained the reasons why the development should not be put in as presented.
They hoped the Planning Commissions recommendation to Council is that they do not
approve the sketch plan as presented but if the developer is serious about what he would
like to do here and if he is willing to work with staff and the neighbors, if the developer
could come up with a better plan, something could be put in there.
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Mr. John Backan stated he has lived in Andover since 1973. He has seen Andover grow
and thought the Planning Commission has done a great job but this site plan is the worst
he has ever seen. He noted in the plans there are fences that are proposed to go up along
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Bunker Lake Boulevard and he felt if a fence needed to be put up to shield a
neighborhood, there is already trouble with the project. The aesthetic value of the homes
will go down because of this proposed development. He noted that being in the real
estate business, he believed the value of the homes in the neighborhood will decrease
between eight and fourteen percent if the development is approved. He concurred with
what the other residents have talked about.
Mr. Lester Bryant, 2830 135th Lane NW, stated this is a high school walker area so there
will be more cars coming and going in the area because of this. He stated the idea of
splitting the building maintenance and ground maintenance is something he has not heard
of and did not think something like this will work. He stated this development is way too
dense and does not fit.
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Mr. Vie Evans, 13553 Gladiola Street, asked what the sketch plan represented as far as
the type of size and type of units being proposed.
Ms. Kim Jabloski, 2743 134th Lane NW, asked if these would be considered single family
dwellings. Her concern is that there would not be any City controls over them if they
were to turn into investment properties and become rental units. Chairperson Daninger
stated if this would be a PUD, the City could imply standards so things like that cannot
happen. Mr. Bednarz the City does not get involved in the rental of a single family home
which these would be considered. Ms. Jabloski stated they are already having issues with
rentals in the area and is a concern for her and others in the neighborhood.
Mr. Jerry Berry, 13526 Gladiola Street, stated his concern is for safety of the children in
the neighborhood and them walking to school and around the neighborhood.
Ms. Dianne Dickson, 16368 Wren Street, stated she was at the meeting to speak for her
father who lives at 13565 Gladiola Street. She wondered if in the process will the
residents have the opportunity to influence or at least observe and understand, what
would be included in the PUD since the existing proposal does not give them anything to
give them any sort of warmth or comfort about the measures they think should be taken
into effect. Chairperson Daninger stated in a Preliminary Plat of a PUD the developer
will need to have all of these things spelled out and there will be another opportunity to
take public hearing on that.
Mr. Tim Foley, 13520 Gladiola Street, stated his concern was if they do go ahead with
the development there will be a certain amount of fill and this is going from a hill down
to 135th Lane and the pond is at the top of the hill along Bunker Lake Boulevard. He
stated he was concerned about the drainage into the lake and what sort of impact it will
have on the lake. Chairperson Daninger indicated a development cannot affect the
adjacent properties with things like drainage.
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Mr. Dan Schmitke, 13725 Edelweiss Street, asked if there is any accommodation for
noise in the PUD because there will be fewer trees.
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Mr. R.T. McFeeters, 13558 Gladiola Street, stated he moved into the neighborhood in
1964 and this development will increase the traffic. He stated traffic is not enforced at
this time. He wondered how they could increase the traffic and hope to keep a handle on
it.
Ms. Gloria Benjamin, 13625 Gladiola Street, stated things have changed a lot through the
years and they know the City will do the right thing.
Ms. Josephine Larson, 13527 Heather Street, stated she has recently adopted the Crooked
Lake Access Park because she walks nearly daily and picks up the area. She noted that
adding more homes will add concern. She also bikes with her children to Crooked Lake
Access Park and with it becoming increasingly busier; she will have concerns about
allowing her children to bike there on their own.
Mr. John Backen asked the developer to explain the reasons why the rear end of the
homes will face Bunker Lake Boulevard and Coon Rapids. They have boats that sit
behind the houses along with snowmobiles. This will be a sore site driving on those
roads seeing those things parked in the backyards.
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Mr. Dan Schmitt asked if affecting home values of the surrounding homes was included
in the proposal as well.
Mr. Wayne Layman, 13732 Edelweiss, stated as developments were brought into the
area, it affected the traffic and neighborhood. He thought they were being too hasty and
did not think the developer was prepared with all of the requested variances.
Mr. Lester Bryant stated this area is also a must walk area for Crooked Lake School and
it extends quite a way south, into Coon Rapids so there are a lot of kids walking from
Gladiola.
Chairperson Daninger noted that sometimes when a new development comes in, some
surrounding streets get improved.
Ms. Dawn Schnickles-Johnson stated at the neighborhood meeting upgrades to streets
was discussed and the comment was that improvements to the roads would be done
during the normal maintenance cycles and not because of the development.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Casey, to close the public hearing at 8:01 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Greenwald, Walton) vote.
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Mr. Todd Ganz, owner of Merritt Development, stated he was at the meeting to answer
their questions.
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Chairperson Daninger asked what the size of the units will be. Mr. Ganz stated at this
time, during the sketch part of this, they are estimating the minimum to be 1,100 S.F. per
to 1,800 S.F. foundation size.
Mr. Ganz stated regarding the number of garages per units is based upon the size of the
lot, the minimum will be a 440 S.F. two car garage and three car garages where space
allowed.
Chairperson Daninger asked Mr. Ganz what the estimated home value will be. Mr. Ganz
stated based upon current pricing, minimum will be at $245,000 for the least expensive
home.
Chairperson Daninger stated there was a concern with noise and he wondered what the
developer will do regarding it. Mr. Ganz stated he planned to save as many trees as
possible to buffer along Bunker Lake Boulevard and to buffer between the existing
homes that area already there and they will be doing a tree preservation study for the
development.
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Chairperson Daninger stated there was a question regarding the direction the houses will
face. Mr. Ganz stated he was hoping to have the garages facing one another and have a
shared driveway. He thought it was more appealing to have windows, stone and shake
facing the road then a garage door.
Chairperson Daninger asked what the developer had to say about drainage affecting
adjacent properties. Mr. Ganz stated it would not affect adjacent properties.
Commissioner Kirchoff asked if there was any reference regarding a trail along Gladiola.
Mr. Ganz stated they have not included it but would be willing to include them in the
plans for the streets.
Mr. Ganz stated regarding rentals, in the developments they have done, he has not heard
of any rentals or leases turning up because of the price point. Mr. Ganz explained what
the homeowners association would be responsible for in the development.
Commissioner King asked if there would be any open spaces in the development. Mr.
Ganz stated they did not have any open spaces designed into the project right now. He
noted they could add some to make the development more appealing.
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Commissioner Kirchoff stated he has not seen any real improvements. He asked Mr.
Ganz what the improvements would be for a PUD. Mr. Ganz stated the 2,500 S.F. of
living space is an improvement. Having the structure maintained on a regular basis
would provide an appealing neighborhood, enhancing the landscaping, tree buffers, six
foot evergreen trees, fencing to buffer and the open space he in the back of some of the
deep lots would be improvements. He also would like to connect trails, install sidewalks
and Eidelweiss would probably be improved which would be a benefit to the City.
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Commissioner King stated there will be a number of trees removed and he wondered if
trees will be moved or replaced. Mr. Ganz stated they plan to plant both evergreen and
deciduous trees.
Commissioner Kirchoff thought the development could lose a few homes and make it
more spacious. Mr. Ganz stated he would not be opposed to that.
Chairperson Daninger indicated he was in favor of a well designed PUD. He thought the
applicant should work with staff and address the concerns of the neighborhood and
reduce the number of units. He also stated that all of the improvements need to be shown
on the plans. The Commission agreed.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the June 20, 2006 City
Council meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: RESIDENTIAL SKETCH PLAN FOR A SINGLE FAMILY
RURAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT 17404 WARD LAKE
DRIVE.
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Mr. Bednarz stated the Planning Commission is asked to review a sketch plan containing
five rural lots.
Mr. Bednarz discussed the staff report with the Commission.
Commissioner Kirchoff asked if the second access was the reasonable spot for it to go.
Mr. Bednarz stated they look at topography and look at where the road can physically be
built. It does need to go to the north and there are several options that would depend on
the development plans of the property owners.
Commissioner King stated the road going to the north shows a cul-de-sac in the north
going south, he knew the area was all undeveloped at this time and is a high area. He
wondered if the property owners were contacted and have they seen it. Mr. Bednarz
stated the typical notification was provided but there has not been a lot of interest in the
sketch plan at this time. He has not been contacted by anyone in the neighborhood
regarding this development.
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Commissioner Holthus asked if the gravel portion of Ward Lake Drive would be paved
and if other residents not in the development would be assessed for road improvements.
Mr. Bednarz explained that the development would be asked to pay a proportionate share
of the road improvements and that property owners outside of the development are
typically not assessed for road improvements until the time that they develop, The
Council will need to determine at what time the road will be paved.
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Motion by Casey, seconded by Kirchoff, to open the public hearing at 8:37 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-ayes, a-nays, 2-absent (Greenwald, Walton) vote.
Ms. Lilly Grey, 17947 Hanson Boulevard, stated she walks everyday along Ward Lake
Drive and she noticed the proposed change sign. She wanted to have the Commission
understand that this is a rural area and if they put in road lights, that they shine down
instead of up into the sky. She thought the gravel road needed to be paved because cars
drive through there very fast.
Motion by King, seconded by Casey, to close the public hearing at 8:41 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-ayes, a-nays, 2-absent (Greenwald, Walton) vote.
Ms. Kathy O'Connell, MFRA, representing Select Homes, made a presentation to the
Commission regarding the proposed development.
Commissioner Holthus stated one of the requirements they would have to do is to
demonstrate the buildability of each lot. She wondered if this was a major concern. Ms.
O'Connell did not think it was a concern.
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Commissioner King stated he lives in that area and there are many trees in the area. He
wondered if they planned on keeping a lot of the trees. Ms. O'Connell stated that is one
of the main considerations for where the road and cul-de-sac are located. She noted they
had noticed on the knoll there were a couple of beautiful Oak trees so they adjusted the
street and will further refme it when they get the :final topography and locate key trees.
Commissioner King wondered if the street will be thirty-three feet wide. Ms. O'Connell
stated they will put in whatever road width that the city requires but would prefer to
reduce the street width because that much paving is simply not needed.
Chairperson Daninger thanked Ms. O'Connell for explaining the development to the
Commission.
Chairperson Daninger indicated the development looked good and should be pursued.
The Commission agreed.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the June 20, 2006 City
Council meeting.
OTHER BUSINESS.
Mr. Bednarz updated the Commission on previously reviewed items.
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Commissioner Kirchoff noted he picked up aD. architecture monthly magazine and the
Community Center was in it and apparently they have won an award and thought it was
great.
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Commissioner Casey stated this Thursday there will be an open house provided by the
Andover EDA from 5:00 to 7:00 to review the Andover North project general business
area. The public is welcome to come.
ADJOURNMENT.
Motion by Casey, seconded by Holthus, to adjourn the meeting at 8:50 p.m. Motion
carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Greenwald, Walton) vote.
Respectfully Submitted,
Sue Osbeck, Recording Secretary
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