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HomeMy WebLinkAboutOctober 10, 2006 o o o ClmQ.~~ I a -' J Y -(;b PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING -OCTOBER 10, 2006 The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Chairperson Daninger on October 10, 2006, 7 :00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present: Chairperson Daninger, Commissioners Tim Kirchoff, Rex Greenwald, Michael Casey, Valerie Holthus, Devon Walton and Michael King. Commissioners absent: There were none. Also present: City Planner, Courtney Bednarz Associate Planner, Andy Cross Associate Planner, Chris Vrchota Others APPROVAL OF MINUTES. September 12, 2006 Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Walton, to approve the minutes as presented. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. PUBLIC HEARING: LOT SPLIT (06-05) TO CREATE TWO URBAN RESIDENTIAL LOTS FROM PROPERTY LOCATED AT 13423 CROOKED LAKE BOULEVARD NW. Mr. Cross noted Dennis Steinlicht has applied to split his property along Crooked Lake Boulevard into two urban residential lots. The existing house, built in 1946, would be removed and two new houses built on the lots. Mr. Cross reviewed the staff report with the Commission. Commissioner Greenwald asked when the hundred foot lot width requirement came into effect. Mr. Bednarz thought it was with the original zoning code. Commissioner Walton asked if there will be a sideyard setback to this lot. Mr. Cross indicated all lots will need to conform to sideyard setbacks. o Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - October 10, 2006 Page 2 Chairperson Daninger thought the driveways would work accessing 134th but he was concerned about the driveway by the intersection. Mr. Cross indicated the driveway would have to meet the required distance from the intersection and it could do that with the existing lot width. Commissioner King asked if they knew what the distance was from the comer to driveway. He wondered what the distanc~ would need to be. Mr. Cross indicated it would need to be 60 feet. Commissioner Walton stated there were two other lots a block south of this proposed parcel split, 2764 and 2754 124th Avenue and wondered if staff knew what the parameters are of those lots to see if it would be a comparison. He asked if they were ever split or were they built originally like that. Mr. Cross indicated he did not have any information regarding those two parcels. Motion by Walton, seconded by Casey, to open the public hearing at 7 :08 p.m, Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. o Ms. Kim Jabloski, 2743 134th Lane, stated she had some concerns regarding this split. She wondered who would be building the homes and what the intent of the properties would be, if they would be rentals. She stated there was an adjacent lot split at 13493 and 13473 and there were variances done for those lots to build two homes because the lot sizes were too small. She stated that one of the homes has sat vacant since that lot split and the yard has not been maintained. She stated making the lots smaller in that area has not been well received. She also wondered what the estimated value of the homes will be. Motion by Walton, seconded by Casey, to close the public hearing at 7:15 p.m. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. Mr. Dennis Steinlicht, 2766 133rd Lane, stated he has lived in Andover his entire life. He stated he would have a general contractor build the homes. The value of the homes will be in the $250,000 range, comparable to what is already there. He noted he had pictures and diagrams of what he wanted to put on the lots. Chairperson Daninger asked ifthe applicant's intent was to rent or sell the homes. Mr, Steinlicht indicated they would be sold. Commissioner Kirchoff asked the applicant ifhe planned on building the homes as spec homes or plan to build as he finds someone who wants to purchase them. Mr. Steinlicht indicated they would both be built at the same time because it was easier to coordinate. o Chairperson Daninger asked if the lot was not split, would Mr. Steinlicht clean up the property. Mr. Steinlicht indicated he would. o Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - October 10, 2006 Page 3 Commissioner King asked what size houses was the applicant looking at. Mr. Stein1icht showed the layout of the homes to the Commission. Commissioner King asked if there were existing trees on the property now. Mr. Stein1icht indicated there were but they were not significant. Commissioner Kirchoff thought this looked like an improvement from what was there now. He indicated he would support this lot split because they will get a driveway off Crooked Lake and improve some properties. He thought the variances seemed very mmor. Commissioner Holthus thought it would be an improvement for the neighborhood and she liked the thought of having the driveways on 134th rather than Crooked Lake Boulevard. She indicated she would support this as well and it would hopefully be a good change for the neighborhood. o Chairperson Daninger stated he did not agree with them. He thought the property needed to be cleaned up and one house could clean it up. He based his decision on the fact that they already bent the variance once when it comes to area and distance and then they changed the variance to allow one ninety percent rule and now they are going to do it again. That was his concern when they discussed this. In allowing one, they would see more coming. He stated he cannot approve this because every time they approve these, it pushes the variance more. He reason for denial was that it did not warrant the variances on those two issues. Commissioner Greenwald concurred. He stated if they want to be strict about this, they would tell the applicant to clean up the property and allow only one house on the lot. Commissioner King stated he would not be in favor of this split. He thought one lot would be beneficial in this situation. Commissioner Casey stated he tended to lean against it. The main thing is the variance which has to demonstrate hardship and he did not see a hardship with this. Commissioner Walton explained he would be for the split. The problem he saw is it they put one house, which would be larger on the lot, would not conform to the rest of the neighborhood price wise and would be more difficult to sell in a shorter time period. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Casey, to recommend to the City Council denial of the lot split based on there is no hardship. Motion carried on a 4-ayes, 3-nays (Kirchoff, Holthus, Walton), O-absent vote. o Mr. Cross stated that this item would be before the Council at the October 17,2006 City Council meeting. Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - October 10, 2006 c:> Page 4 PUBLIC HEARING: LOT SPLIT (06-06) TO CREATE TWO INDUSTRIAL LOTS FROM PROPERTY LOCATED AT 13533 JAY STREET NW. Mr. Vrchota explained the parcel is owned by Kottke's Bus Service. They intend to split the lot and sell the west half, while retaining the east half for their continued business use. Mr. Vrchota discussed the staffreport with the Commission. Chairperson Daninger stepped down because of conflict of interest. Motion by Holthus, seconded by Casey, to open the public hearing at 7 :30 p.m. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. There was no public input. Motion by Casey, seconded by Holthus, to close the public hearing at 7 :31 p.m. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absentvote. o Commissioner Holthus wondered what the future intent of this property will be. Mr. Jeff Hanson, Kottke's Bus Service, stated their intent was to split the lot and sell the parcel off and he did not know what the future buyer plarmed on doing with it. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Casey, to recommend approval of the proposed lot split. Motion carried on .0yes, -& Bays, 0 aeseflt vote. I Qbo-tv..l.nCtcu1lfl<'fAJ ~6- ~WK~ Mr. Vrchota stated that this item would be before the Council at the October 17, 2006 16 -ilJy,~ City Council meeting. PUBLIC HEARING: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT (06-06) TO ALLOW OUTDOOR DISPLAY AND SALES FOR V ALLEY POOLS AND SPAS LOCATED AT 3426 BUNKER LAKE BOULVARD NW. Mr. Cross stated John Roettger, manager at Valley Pools & Spas, has applied for a Conditional Use Permit to set up an outdoor display on the west side of their building. Mr. Cross discussed the staff report with the Commission. o Commissioner King asked by removal of the parking area on the west side, will that leave sufficient number of parking stalls in that area. Mr. Cross stated it would. o Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - October 10, 2006 Page 5 Commissioner Kirchoff stated on the north side, there is a fence with an L type of a berm, is this some type oflandscaping. Mr. Cross indicated it was the existing curb. Commissioner Walton wondered what the height of the fence will be. The applicant indicated it would be six feet high. Commissioner King stated at present time the dumpsters were along the building and he noticed they were going to build a new place on the southwest corner of the parking lot for them. Mr. Cross stated as part of the project, the applicant will be constructing a dedicated place for the dumpsters to clear them out of the parking area. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by King, to open the public hearing at 7:40 p.m. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. There was no public input. Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Casey, to close the public hearing at 7 :40 p.m. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. o Mr. John Roettger, Valley Pool & Spas, 3426 Bunker Lake Boulevard, indicated he was the meeting to answer questions. Commissioner Walton asked if they got the idea from a similar store with an outdoor display. Mr. Roettger stated they do have other stores with displays outdoors. He stated they have two displays in their store and have had water damage. He stated it is hard to maintain a pool indoors. He stated they are looking to move the pools outside for health and insurance reasons. The other issue they have is with a new store coming in next to them; the store is pretty old and has been poorly maintained. Their hope is to stay there and improve the area. The problem is that the building has had vandalism and people drinking behind it and starting stuff on fire. It is not lit or maintained and has some issues. He noted by doing the display, they are looking to add some security and safety issues and to improve that side of the building. He noted they could fix a lot of problems by moving the display outside. Commissioner Holthus knew it was important to keep the pools and hot tubs secure. She wondered how they were planning on accomplishing this. Mr. Roettger showed a drawing of what security measures they are planning on doing to the display area. Commissioner King asked if there was a certain height the security fence needed to be to keep people out. Mr. Cross stated there is no minimum height requirement for a security fence. Around pools there is a four foot safety fence requirement. o Commissioner Walton asked if there were any insurance issues anyone needed to be concerned about regarding this display. Mr. Bednarz stated the City did not have any insurance concerns because it is private property. o Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - October 10, 2006 Page 6 Chairperson Daninger compliments Mr. Roettger on the information given. He wondered if the display will be year round. Mr. Roettger indicated the pools will be maintained year round but mostly shown in the summer months. Chairperson Daninger asked if this will become a storage area. Mr. Roettger indicated it would be for display only. Chairperson Daninger asked what kind of noise the displays will generate. Mr. Roettger indicated there will be two pump systems on the sidewalk. The only noise generated will be off the pumps and will not generate a lot of noise. Chairperson Daninger asked if the pumps could be enclosed if needed to shield the noise. Mr. Roettger stated they could put up a two sided wall to shield the noise from the residents. Chairperson Daninger stated safety was a concern to him and he wondered if the pools were locked. Mr. Roettger stated they do not have a way to lock the pools but there will be a safety fence with a locked gate. The gate will be self latching and locked from the outside. Chairperson Daninger thought this could be a potential problem with trespassers and the applicant may want to look further into securing the pools and hot tubs. o Motion by Walton, seconded by Greenwald, to recommend to the City Council approval of the Conditional Use Permit for Valley Pools & Spas. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, 0- nays, O-absent vote. Mr. Cross stated that this item would be before the Council at the October 17,2006 City Council meeting. PUBLIC HEARING: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT (06-07) TO ALLOW A VETERINARY CLINIC AT HANSON COMMONS LOCATED AT 1574154TH A VENUE NW. Mr. Bednarz explained the applicant is seeking approval of a conditional use permit for veterinary clinics as required in the Shopping Center Zoning District. Mr. Bednarz discussed the staff report with the Commission. Commissioner Holthus wondered what the unit south of the proposed clinic was. Mr. Bednarz stated it was a clothing store for children. o Commissioner King stated in the diagram, it shows a radiology lab and he wondered if there will be x-ray equipment in there and if so, will they be requiring some kind of shield in the rooms because of the clients on both sides. Mr. Bednarz stated they will meet all of the fire and building codes which do protect other buildings from emitting x- rays. o Regular Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - October 10, 2006 Page 7 Commissioner King asked if there will be some requirement for disposing of deceased animals. Commissioner Greenwald thought there were MN State regulations regarding this. Mr. Bednarz stated the State does license and provide regulations for veterinarians of all specialties. Motion by Holthus, seconded by Casey, to open the public hearing at 7:57 p.m. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. Mr. Winslow Holasek asked if radiology means this is going to be x-ray only or radiation treatment. Mr. Bednarz stated the applicant is out of town and could not make the meeting but he would make sure the applicant would answer this question to the Council. Motion by Walton, seconded by Casey, to close the public hearing at 7:59 p.m. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. Chairperson Daninger wondered where the animals will relieve themselves. Motion by Greenwald, seconded by Kirchoff, to recommend to the City Council approval of the conditional use permit. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. o Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the October 17, 2006 City Council meeting. OTHER BUSINESS. Mr. Bednarz updated the Planning Commission on related items. ADJOURNMENT. Motion by Casey, seconded by Walton, to adjourn the meeting at 8:05 p.m. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. Respectfully Submitted, Sue Osbeck, Recording Secretary TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc. c