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Andover Open Space Advisory Commission
Meeting Agenda
March 14, 2018
Andover City Hall
Conference Room A&B
6.00 p.m.
1. Call to Order
2. Oath of Office for Commissioner Olson
3. Resident Forum
4. Approval of Minutes: January 10, 2018 Regular Meeting
5. Discuss request for improvements at Northwoods Preserve
6. Discuss request for water feature at Northwoods Preserve
7. Dalske Woodlands Preserve boardwalk update
8. Review parcels of interest for potential future nature preserves
9. Discuss agenda for joint meeting with City Council
10. Other Business
a. Next meeting?
11. Adjournment
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TO: Andover Open Space Advisory Commission
FROM: Kameron Kytonen, Natural Resources Technician
SUBJECT: Approval of Minutes — January 10, 2018 Regular Meeting
DATE: March 14, 2018
INTRODUCTION
The Open Space Advisory Commission is asked to review and approve the
minutes from the January 10, 2018 regular meeting.
DISCUSSION
Please share any changes to the minutes at the meeting.
ACTION REQUESTED
A motion, second, and vote are necessary to approve the minutes.
Respectfully submitted,
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Kameron Kytonen
Attachment
January 10, 2018 meeting minutes
REGULARANDOVER OPENSPACEADVISORYCOMMISSIONMEETING
JANUARY 10, 2018
MINUTES
The Regular Meeting of the Andover Open Space Advisory Commission was called to order by
Chairperson Gretchen Sabel at 6:04 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard
NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present: Anna Dirkswager, Joy Faherty, Aaron Jarson, and Jim Olson
Commissioners absent: Rebecca Dahlberg and Kim Kovich
Also present: Kameron Kytonen, Natural Resources Technician
RESIDENT FORUM
No one wished to address the Commission.
APPROVAL OFMINUTES— September 13, 2017
Motion by Commissioner Dirkswager, Second by Commissioner Olson, to approve the minutes
of September 13, 2017. Motion passed 5-0.
UPDATE ON BIG RIVERS GRANT WITH GREAT RIVER GREENING
Mr. Kytonen stated that the funds must be used by June and therefore activity is continuing. He
noted that prescribed burning will be done in the prairie area this spring and advised that the
forestry mowing was done the previous fall. He stated that following the burn they will continue
with over seeding for flowers and grasses. He stated that he met with a representative from
Great River Greening to discuss the list of priorities. He noted that the funds are nontransferable
and anything unused would need to be returned. He stated that a trail camera may be installed at
the entrance in order to catch some of the people going in and vandalizing items within the
preserve. He stated that he would attempt to keep the Commission updated as the activity
continues. He noted that he has not yet heard a response on the other grant that they applied for
that may be awarded for Maple View.
DALSKE WOODLANDS BOARDWALSBRIDGE UPDATE
Mr. Kytonen stated that there is an opportunity that the Commission may be able to apply for,
the Federal Recreational Trail Program, through the DNR. He stated that the application would
be due at the end of February and there would be a 25 percent match required, if awarded. He
noted that the topic had been brought forward to a City Council meeting to get authorization to
apply for the grant and staff was able to obtain approval from the Council that there would be
matching funds available for this purpose. He stated that staff will submit the application.
Commissioner Dirkswager noted that if the City was able to get the Conservation Corps to do
some work in the preserve, that would help to provide a higher priority ranking of the
application.
Mr. Kytonen stated that partnership with other organizations also helps to provide a higher
ranking. It was noted that perhaps offering the use of the preserves to a high school outdoor
adventure group for educational purposes could be considered.
Regular Open Space Advisory Commission Meeting
Minutes — January 10, 2018
Page 2
Commissioner Faherty stated that she visited some of the preserves on Sunday, when the weather
was nice, and brought two people that had never been to the preserves. She noted that she asked
her visitors for input on items that they would find helpful. She stated that additional directional
markers would be helpful as it is confusing with the no trespassing signs posted near Dalske
Woods.
Mr. Kytonen noted that he does have a work order in with the sign department to move the
entrance sign further towards the entrance and away from the no trespassing sign.
Commissioner Jarson stated that when you turn on the dirt road from the main road, it can be
very deceiving because it feels like you are on someone's driveway and then there are multiple
no trespassing and keep out signs.
Mr. Kytonen stated that he has an additional request in for signage on the roadway once you turn
off the main road. He provided a copy of the trail map layout for Dalske Woods.
OVERVIEW OF NATURE PRESERVES PROGRAM WITH QCTV
Chairperson Sabel stated that the programs turned out great and confirmed the consensus of the
Commission.
Mr. Kytonen confirmed that the programs were also put onto the City website. He stated that it
was really nice to partner with QCTV.
DISCUSSION OF COMMISSIONERS' FIELD OBSERVATIONS OF NATURE
PRESERVES
Commissioner Dirkswager stated that she is excited to get the trees thinned in North Woods
preserve, noting that the poor condition trees continue to deteriorate. She noted that she has a
contact that she can pass on to staff that may be available to help. She stated that in the warmer
months, that dead wood and pine needles could be a fire hazard.
Commissioner Jarson asked how much thinning would be needed.
Mr. Kytonen estimated that perhaps one third of the trees could be thinned.
Commissioner Dirkswager stated that it would be nice to have estimates of the different levels of
thinning that could occur.
Mr. Kytonen confirmed that he would follow up and attempt to gain estimates on the cost for
thinning.
Chairperson Sabel asked the timeline for the additional access.
Mr. Kytonen stated that the additional access would be provided when the last part of that
development is constructed.
Regular Open Space Advisory Commission Meeting
Minutes — January 10, 2018
Page 3
DISCUSSION FUTURE OF OPEN SPA CE AD VISOR COMMISSION (OSAQ
Chairperson Sabel stated that this has been talked about in the past.
Mr. Kytonen stated that when Mr. Carlberg left the City he spoke with the Commission about the
transition from acquisition to management. He advised that the Commission has been in the
management role for the past two years now and noted that eventually the management could be
handled entirely by staff. He asked the desire of the Commission for the future.
It was mentioned to perhaps pursue whether there would be interest in attempting another
referendum to purchase additional property for preserves.
Commissioner Olson suggested that the Commission propose to the City Council what they
would want the Commission to do in the future, whether that is to continue to manage the
properties as intended in the referendum.
Chairperson Sabel stated that a discussion could occur with the Council to determine if there
would be support for another referendum.
Commissioner Olson stated that for the near future, he would believe that there would be a need
for the Commission to assist with management.
Chairperson Sabel stated that perhaps in the future the Commission could be involved with
developments that come forward. She explained that when a new development comes forward, it
would be nice to be able to preserve open space areas or high priority natural areas within the
development to remain as open space.
Commissioner Dirkswager stated that a discussion with the Council would be timely because of
the bonding issue that may move forward with the expansion of the community center/ice rinks.
Mr. Kytonen stated that the previous year the Commission met jointly with the City Council in
May.
Commissioner Dirkswager stated that perhaps the idea could be talked about with the City
Manager or Mayor in the time between now and then to gauge the interest level.
Commissioner Dirkswager noted that there may be alternate options for funding, outside of
bonding as well.
It was noted that perhaps it would be helpful to find the original corridor map that was created
when the group first began.
It was confirmed that Mr. Kytonen would meet with the City Manager within the next month to
determine possible dates that the topic could appear on a City Council workshop agenda.
Regular Open Space Advisory Commission Meeting
Minutes —January 10, 2018
Page 4
OTHER BUSINESS
a. Next Meeting
Mr. Kytonen stated that perhaps it would be wise to meet in March to plan for a discussion with
the Council.
Commissioner Dirkswager asked if the timber thinning estimate could be obtained by that time.
Mr. Kytonen stated that the Commission could also brainstorm in preparation for the future
discussion with the City Council.
It was determined that the next meeting will be held on March 14, 2018.
h. Other
Mr. Kytonen stated that there is a new development, White Pine Wilderness 4' Addition, that
will begin and will drain some of its water onto the preserve property. He stated that in
collaboration with that activity, the developer will be filling the low-lying area of the trail with
about one foot of material to prevent that from flooding out. He provided additional information
on the access that would be provided to the preserve from the development. He stated that a
contractor was hired to spread the remainder of the woodchips on the trails within Martins
Meadows, noting that the giant piles of woodchips have been used.
Commissioner Jarson noted that this is his last meeting with the Commission because of
scheduling conflicts. Mr. Kytonen and the rest of the Commissioners thanked him for his efforts.
Commissioner Faherty stated that she will begin work on the welcome signs for Maple View and
Dalske and once completed, she will send copies to the Commission for input.
Chairperson Sabel asked for an update on the kiosk for Dalske Woodands.
Mr. Kytonen stated that he has been approached by scouts, but they haven't been following up.
He stated that the goal is to have a kiosk built by spring/summer.
Commissioner Dirkswager stated that dog waste is becoming a problem and perhaps a sign
reminding people to pick up after themselves would be helpful. She noted that perhaps the City
could provide little bags for people at the entrance to pickup dog waste.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Dirkswager, Second by Commissioner Olson, to adjourn the meeting
at 7:08 p.m. Motion passed 5-0.
Regular Open Space Advisory Commission Meeting
Minutes — January 10, 2018
Page 5
Respectfully submitted,
Kameron Kytonen
Natural Resources Technician
Drafted by:
Amanda Staple, Recording Secretary
1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. • ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 • (763) 755-5100
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TO: Andover Open Space Advisory Commission
FROM: Todd J. Haas, Assistant Public Works Director/Parks Coordinator
SUBJECT: Discuss Request for Improvements at Northwoods Preserve
DATE: March 14, 2018
INTRODUCTION
The Open Space Advisory Commission is requested to consider a request by the Park and
Recreation Commission about adding a shelter somewhere near east of the existing
parking lot in Northwoods Preserve to allow visitors and/or neighbors from the new
developments to the south (White Pine Wilderness) to have place to sit and enjoy the
surrounding open space property or just to get out of the weather elements.
DISCUSSION
The Park and Recreation Commission as part of the White Pine Wilderness 4' Addition
park dedication discussion thought it would be nice idea to see if a shelter could be
constructed within the Northwoods Preserve area for visitors and for residents from the
adjacent neighborhood. Attached is a copy of the January 18, 2018 Park and Recreation
Commission meeting minutes for your review.
ACTION REQUESTED
The Open Space Advisory Commission is requested to consider a request by the Park and
Recreation Commission about adding a shelter in a location near or just east of the existing
parking lot in Northwoods Preserve.
Respectfully submitted,
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Todd J. Haas
Cc: Shane Stenzel, Parks and Recreation Commission Chair
Attachment: January 18, 2018 Park and Recreation Commission meeting minutes;
Location map
Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting
Minutes —January 18, 2018
Page 3
Mr. Haas replied that would be a day camp on the soccer fields east of the baseball fields
that would take place on the weekdays during the daytime hours. He noted that there
would not be any conflicts with any other organizations. He provided additional
information on the fields that will be used and confirmed that he can clean up the
language.
Chair Stenzel stated that it was his belief that the multi-purpose fields had previously
been discussed. He noted that there have been situations in the past where soccer and
lacrosse use the fields in the summer and then by the time football uses the field it has too
much wear and has to be shut down.
Mr. Haas replied that the day camp has been very good with moving around the fields
and even in the past have been utilizing the outfield area to prevent wear and tear. He
stated that if staff notes a lot of wear and tear they would address that issue.
Chair Stenzel asked and confirmed that the field location language would be cleaned up.
Motion by Butler, seconded by Miskowiec, to recommend the City Council approve the 6
soccer/lacrosse tournament applications for the upcoming 2018 soccer/lacrosse season as
requested by the North Metro Soccer Association (NMSA) and the Andover Area
Lacrosse Association (AALA). Motion carried on a 5 -ayes, 0 -nays, 2 -absent (Angell and
Marinello) vote.
CONSIDER APPLICATION FOR SCHEDULED USE OF RECREATIONAL
FACILITIES/ CONSTANCE FREE CHURCH
Mr. Haas explained that this item is in regard to the request of Constance Free Church to
use hockey rinks at Prairie Knoll Park on Wednesday, January 31, 2018, from 6:30-9
p.m. He stated that the church is aware that the rink typically shuts down at 8:30 p.m. but
noted that the warming house attendant usually does not mind staying the additional 30
minutes. He advised that this has been done in the past and recommended approval.
Motion by Butler, seconded by Miskowiec, to recommend the City Council the approve
request of Constance Free Church to use hockey rinks at Prairie Knoll Park on
Wednesday, January 31, 2018, from 6:30-9 p.m. Motion carried on a 5 -ayes, 0 -nays, 2 -
absent (Angell and Marinello) vote.
,.PC CONSIDER WHITE PINE WILDERNESS 4TH ADDITION PARK DEDICATION
REQUIREMENTS
Mr. Haas explained that this item is in regard to reviewing and determining the park
dedication requirement for the White Pine Wilderness 4' Addition preliminary plat. He
noted that 14 lots are proposed and located near the northeast corner of the intersection of
Hanson Boulevard NW and 1615 Avenue NW. It was noted that previous review of the
Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting
Minutes — January 18, 2018
Page 4
White Pine Wilderness 151-31d Additions resulted in park dedication to be cash in lieu of
land. Mr. Haas stated that to the north of the cul-de-sac will be North Woods Preserve
and noted that staff would want to ensure that an access is provided to the preserve
through the cul-de-sac. He explained that this would allow the trail to loop around
through the neighborhood and would provide a second access to the preserve.
Chair Stenzel distributed a copy of the letter he received from area residents expressing
their desire to use one of the proposed lots for a park. He stated that the resident letter
states that the development does not have access to a neighborhood park without crossing
a busy roadway. He noted that a copy of the letter will be submitted into the record. He
asked for additional information on the layout of the development and whether the road
would dead-end in that location.
Mr. Haas replied that the road would be a temporary dead-end but noted that a future
connection would be provided when that property develops in the future.
Chair Stenzel asked for information on two lots that do not show addresses.
Mr. Haas stated that there are addresses assigned to those lots and noted that those lots
are currently developed.
Commissioner Lindahl noted that there have been discussions with the recent park
dedication study and advised that the number of neighborhood mini parks far exceeds
what the City should have based on the number of residents. He appreciated the concern
of the residents but did not believe that the City could justify another park at this time.
Commissioner Butler asked if the trail extends to the neighborhood to the east.
Mr. Haas replied that there is a significant DNR wetland to the east and therefore there is
not a trail connection in that location.
Commissioner Miskowiec asked the width of the trail easement the City is proposing.
Mr. Haas noted that there is an existing watermain that loops through the preserve and
connects to Country Oaks North development and therefore the City has the easement.
He noted that the easement is 20-30 feet in width. He identified the easement line on the
plat and the adjacent parcel property line.
Commissioner Miskowiec asked if the rules of the preserve would apply to the easement
area, specifically whether a shelter could be developed in the future in that location.
Mr. Haas identified the location of the City easement and the area that would be
considered City owned land. He stated that he is unsure of the desire of the Open Space
Advisory Commission (OSAC) on whether a shelter would be desired in the future.
Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting
Minutes —January 18, 2018
Page 5
Commissioner Butler acknowledged the desire of the residents to have a neighborhood
park. He stated that there are a lot of neighborhoods in the City that would want to have
the access to the preserve that this development has and therefore to add a park as well
does not seem equitable to the rest of the residents in the City.
Commissioner Perra asked if the OSAC would be open to adding a shelter in that
location. She noted that Maple View has a park at the entrance to the preserve.
Commissioner Butler agreed that it would be nice to have some type of amenity at the
entrance to the preserves. He noted that would be a question for the OSAC.
Commissioner Perra stated a trail connection between the developments along 161"
Avenue NW would be helpful as it would provide access from White Pines Wilderness
development to Country Oaks development and would prevent children from having to
cross the busy roadway.
Mr. Haas confirmed that trail connection is within the plan but noted that often priority is
given to more urban areas when constructing regional trails than the rural areas of the
City.
Commissioner Lindahl stated that the City is full of neighborhood parks.
Commissioner Miskowiec stated that a trail connection may be feasible. He stated that it
would also be helpful to speak with the OSAC about the possibility of adding a shelter at
the opening of the preserve.
Mr. Haas noted that he would speak with Mr. Kytonen to determine if the OSAC would
be interested in something like that.
Motion by Lindahl, seconded by Miskowiec, to recommend the City Council accept cash
in lieu of land for the park dedication requirement for White Pine Wilderness 4U'
Addition. Motion carried on a 5 -ayes, 0 -nays, 2 -absent (Angell and Marinello) vote.
ANOKA COUNTYSHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT 4TH QUARTER REPORT
A listing of reports generated by the Anoka County Sheriff s Office regarding City park
activity for the 4' quarter of 2017 was provided for Commission review. Mr. Haas
referenced an incident in which the City was able to track a resident that was driving their
ATV in an unauthorized area and noted that a citation was issued. He encouraged
residents to check the City website or stop in at City Hall to obtain a map of the areas that
allow that type of activity.
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TO: Andover Open Space Advisory Commission
FROM: Kameron Kytonen, Natural Resources Technician
SUBJECT: Discuss Request for Water Feature at Northwoods Preserve
DATE: March 14, 2018
INRODUCTION
The developer of White Pine Wilderness 4th Addition, which is adjacent to Northwoods
Preserve, is in need of fill to make the lots buildable. They have proposed to dig two
ponds in the preserve to obtain the fill and create "water features" on the site.
DISCUSSION
Northwoods Preserve currently doesn't have any open water features, which can have a lot
to offer for a variety of species of wildlife, including waterfowl, songbirds and amphibians.
The developer of White Pine Wilderness 4'h Addition needs to import approximately
23,000 yards of fill to make the development work. Excavating in the preserve would
generate about 10,000 yards.
In addition to digging the ponds, the developer would plant native vegetation around the
basins, restore the trail and offer a monetary contribution (up to $ l OK) that could be used
for vegetation enhancement in the preserve.
ACTION REQUESTED
The Commission is requested to discuss the request for the water feature at Northwoods
Preserve.
Respectfully submitted,
Kameron Kytonen
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FAX (763) 755-8923 • WWW.ANDOVERMN.GOV
TO: Andover Open Space Advisory Commission
FROM: Kameron Kytonen, Natural Resources Technician
SUBJECT: Dalske Woodlands Preserve Boardwalk Update
DATE: March 14, 2018
INRODUCTION
Dalske Woodlands Preserve is currently separated by a wetland area that encompasses a
county ditch. This prevents users from being able to safely cross into the upland area, which
is situated on the southern half.
DISCUSSION
The OSAC has developed a priority list for the four Nature Preserves, which includes a
compilation of various management activities that hope to be accomplished on the sites.
The highest priority is to have a crossing, such as a boardwalk, to connect the north and
south portions of Dalske Woodlands.
The Natural Resources Technician researched potential grant opportunities and found a
program worth seeking -the DNR Federal Recreational Trail Program. This program was
introduced at the January 10, 2018 OSAC meeting. The City proceeded to apply for this
grant and submitted the application by the due date (February 28, 2018).
Chairperson Sabel drafted a letter of support on behalf of the OSAC.
ACTION REQUESTED
The Commission is requested to discuss this potential grant opportunity and the submitted
application with staff.
Respectfully submitted,
Yarneron Kyto en
Attachments
Letter of Support
February 27, 2018
Kameron Kytonen
Natural Resources Technician
City of Andover
1685 Crosstown Blvd
Andover MN 55034
RE: Federal Recreational Trail Program Grant Application -- Dalske Woodlands
Mr, Kytonen:
As Chair of the Andover Open Space Commission, I am writing to express support from the
Open Space Commission for the grant request to add a boardwalk to Dalske Woodlands. This
Nature Preserve, located in eastern Andover on the Oak Grove border, has few neighbors and
little human incursion. It adjoins DNR School Trust land, and is rich in wildlife and scenic views.
One feature of note is the braided glacial meltwater channel that bisects the. site.
This channel, which is now managed as a county ditch, limits access to the south part of this 40 -
acre parcel. By adding a boardwalk, people who come to the site to walk and refresh In nature
will be able to access the southern half of the site, which is less disturbed. The boardwalk
would be constructed to have very limited impacts on the site's natural features and would
blend in with the natural -surface paths in the site.
Dalske Woodlands is the fourth of four Nature Preserves purchased by the City of Andover with
money provided in a 2006 bond referendum. ,The others have proven to be popular for
walkers, snow shoers and cross-country skiiers. Andover does not allow motorized uses, horses
or bicycles in the Nature Preserves, ensuring a high-quality outdoor experience for those
seeking solitude and quiet.
The Andover Open Space Commission voted in 2017 to include a boardwalk in Dalske
Woodlands as part of our master management plan forthe four Nature Preserves.. We thank
you for considering this grant application, and urge you to provide funding forthis project.
Yo s uly,
/Gretchen Sabel, Chair
Andover Open Space Commission
Cc: open space Commission Members
1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. • ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 • (763) 755-5100
FAX (763) 755-8923 • WWW.ANDOVERMN.GOV
TO: Andover Open Space Advisory Commission
FROM: Kameron Kytonen, Natural Resources Technician
SUBJECT: Review Parcels of Interest for Potential Future Nature Preserves
DATE: March 14, 2018
INRODUCTION
During the time period when the City was seeking to purchase properties to preserve as
part of the bond referendum, there was an in-depth analysis done as well as a ranking
system on select properties about the City.
DISCUSSION
Although development continues to occur and developers are interested in land, there is
still a lot of undeveloped land and high quality areas worthy of preservation.
The Natural Resources Technician has identified some pieces of land that have some of
these desirable features and laid them out in a table, which is to be shown at the meeting.
ACTION REQUESTED
The Commission is requested to review the parcels that may be of interest for preserving.
Respectfully submitted,
Kameron Kytonen
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1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. • ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 • (763) 755-5100
FAX (763) 755-8923 • WWW.ANDOVERMN.GOV
TO: Andover Open Space Advisory Commission
FROM: Kameron Kytonen, Natural Resources Technician
SUBJECT: Discuss Agenda for Joint Meeting with City Council
DATE: March 14, 2018
INTRODUCTION
There is a plan to schedule a joint meeting with the City Council in May to discuss pertinent
items related to present and future activities in the four nature preserves and to discuss the
future of the OSAC in general.
DISCUSSION
There are a variety of activities going on in the preserves, including vegetation
enhancement, trail development, grants, etc. This is a good opportunity to discuss these
items with the Council.
Now that the preserves are all accessible and management is handled by City staff, it's an
opportune time to discuss what other duties the commission should focus on. Is there
interest in another bond referendum to preserve more undeveloped land? Could land be set
aside in new developments for permanent preservation?
ACTION REQUESTED
The Commission is requested to discuss what items should be included in the agenda for
the joint meeting with the City Council.
Respectfully submitted,
Kameron Kytonen