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HomeMy WebLinkAbout03.08.17 meeting packet?C I T Y 0 F CN D6 , A 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. • ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 • (763) 755-5100 FAX (763) 755-8923 • WWW.ANDOVERMN.GOV Andover Open Space Advisory Commission Meeting Agenda March 8, 2017 Andover City Hall Conference Room A&B 6.00 p.m. 1. Call to Order 2. Oath of Office for Commissioners Dirkswager and Dahlberg 3. Resident Forum 4. Approval of Minutes: January 18, 2017 Regular Meeting 5. Discussion of re -naming open spaces to "preserves" (select members of Park and Recreation Commission to join in on the discussion) 6. Continue discussion of overall comprehensive priority list for all open spaces 7. Discussion of grant opportunities 8. Kiosk signage update 9. Discuss agenda for joint meeting with City Council. 10. Other Business a. Next meeting: May 10, 2017 at 6:00 pm (joint meeting with City Council) 11. Adjournment OY 0/ F .jTVE 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. • ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 • (763) 755-5100 FAX (763).755-8923 • WWW.ANDOVERMN.GOV TO: Andover Open Space Advisory Commission FROM: Kameron Kytonen, Natural Resources Technician SUBJECT: Approval of Minutes — January 18, 2017 Regular Meeting DATE: March 8, 2017 INTRODUCTION The Open Space Advisory Commission is asked to review and approve the minutes from the January 18, 2017 regular meeting. DISCUSSION Please share any changes to the minutes at the meeting. ACTION REQUESTED A motion, second, and vote are necessary to approve the minutes. Respectfully submitted, Kameron Kytonen Attachment January 18, 2017 meeting minutes REGULAR ANDOVER OPEN SPA CE AD VISOR Y COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 18, 2017 MINUTES The Regular Meeting of the Andover Open Space Advisory Commission was called to order by Chairperson Gretchen Sabel at 6:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners present: Anna Dirkswager (arrived at 6:04 p.m.), Joy Faherty, Aaron Jarson, and Kim Kovich Commissioners absent: Jim Olson, and Suzanne Van Hecke Also present: Kameron Kytonen, Natural Resources Technician Donna Aasness, Resident RESIDENT FORUM Donna Aasness stated the day before Christmas someone was walking all over their land. She stated that they dismissed the incident and figured that they would deal with it after the holidays. She stated that unfortunately there is not much that they can do about it. She stated that it needs to be known that people cannot walk onto their property. She stated that the vast majority of people are not walking around her property that she knows of. Commissioner Dirkswager arrived. Chairperson Sabel asked if people walked onto her property before the open space. Mrs. Aasness stated that they did not have an issue prior to the open space. She stated that given the fact that there is open space, people should not be walking on her property. She stated that people are avoiding the signage areas to wander even off their paths to the neighboring property and back a different path across the swamp to get to the parking lot. She believed that this person had a purpose other than exploring open space. Chairperson Sabel stated that she was cross-country skiing on Monday and did not see additional tracks. Mr. Kytonen stated that the City can also run an article in the newsletter and on the City website asking people to respect the boundary of the open space areas. Chairperson Sabel stated that if enough people are aware, there will be social pressure as well. Chairperson Sabel asked if Commissioner Dirkswager has people coming into her yard as well, as she lives on the other side of the open space area. Commissioner Dirkswager confirmed that they do get a few people in their yard as well. Mrs. Aasness stated that there was no damage done but she does not want to see this becoming a regular occurrence as she wants to feel comfortable on her own property. Mr. Kytonen stated that he has seen a deputy sitting in the parking lot on multiple occasions and therefore that should provide some comfort. Regular Open Space Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes —January 18, 2017 Page 2 APPROVAL OF MINUTES — November 16, 2016 Motion by Commissioner Kovich, Second by Commissioner Dirkswager, to approve the minutes of November 16, 2016. Motion passed 5-0. CONTINUE DISCUSSION OF OVERALL COMPREHENSIVE PRIORITY LIST FOR ALL OPENSPACES a) Review Updated "Management Task Summary" Table for Each Open Space b) Review Updated Comprehensive List Table c) Draft Final, Updated Table Mr. Kytonen noted that each of the management plan tables have been updated for consistency and to reflect the discussions. He stated that the costs have been updated to be more accurate. He began with Martin's Meadows and asked for any input from the Commission. Commissioner Dirkswager asked the intention of this discussion. She stated that a meeting with the Council should be scheduled and then a strategy for presentation should be developed. Mr. Kytonen explained that for the past few years there has been a management plan developed for each open space area. He stated that the Commission has worked to further refine the management plans that could be provided to the public as well to show that the City is maintaining the open space areas. Commissioner Dirkswager stated that she found it helpful that Mr. Kytonen provided more details on the action items. Commissioner Faherty suggested that the completed items be pushed to the bottom of the list to make it more clear the items that are still planned to be included and the cost reflected as paid. It was the consensus of the Commission to add additional language clarifying items currently marked as completed and ongoing, to identify that certain elements have been completed yet there is ongoing maintenance required. As well as redesigning the table to place items that have been completed listed at the bottom of the table and separated with an identifier. Commissioner Dirkswager asked if there is funding for these actions. Mr. Kytonen replied that there are grant funds available for Martin's Meadows. Commissioner Kovich asked if the funds still available for Martin's Meadows. Mr. Kytonen replied that there is about $40,000 available. Commissioner Kovich stated that the Martin's Meadows open space is in great shape but could use more information in the kiosk. Regular Open Space Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes — January 18, 2017 Page 3 Commissioner Dirkswager asked if there is a spending deadline and whether the funds are transferable to another open space. Mr. Kytonen replied that there is an extension through June of 2018, but noted that it is unclear if the funds are transferable. Commissioner Kovich stated that he was at North Woods Preserve and is concerned with the water levels and with the snow melting that there would not be good access to the open space. He suggested that additional wood chips be placed. Mr. Kytonen stated that the parking area is the best access for the open space but explained that if that is a wetland they cannot dump things into it. He stated that staff will further research options and this item should be made a priority. Commissioner Kovich noted that the kiosk at North Woods also needs some information put inside of it. Commissioner Dirkswager suggested that the priority list the Commission created at the last meeting not be shared with the public. Chairperson Sabel referenced the over seeding mentioned in the table and asked if that was included in the report from Jason Husveth. Mr. Kytonen confirmed that the item was included in the report from Mr. Husveth. He stated that if the action is well thought out and planned it would be a good measure. Chairperson Sabel stated that the boardwalk for Dalske's is too late to be included in the Capital Improvement Plan for 2017 and therefore the dates should be updated as the earliest these items could be included would be the 2018 budget. Mrs. Aasness asked if the over seeding had been used as a method on any of the other open space areas. Mr. Kytonen confirmed that was completed at Martin's Meadows. Mr. Kytonen moved onto the management plan for Maple View. He confirmed that the trail has been cut. He confirmed that signage will be installed to provide clarification on the open space boundaries and trails. Commissioner Faherty stated that she reached out to the Boy Scout pack her son belongs to and will follow up to see if there is interest in having them create the kiosk for that open space area. Mr. Kytonen stated that the City put that on the Facebook page as well looking for an Eagle Scout that may want to complete the kiosk project. It was noted that the project could also be good for other groups such as other Scout groups or 4-H groups. Regular Open .Space Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes — January 18, 2017 Page 4 Mr. Kytonen moved onto the Dalske Woodlands open space management plan. He stated that trails will be the highest priority this spring and summer. He noted that signage has been installed along the highways, in addition to the signs in the cul-de-sac, to identify the open space area. Commissioner Kovich referenced the State-owned land across from the Dalske Woodlands and noted that might be an opportunity to advertise along with the open space, that you can also walk through that land. Mr. Kytonen noted that the floating boardwalk would most likely be a grant fund item. Commissioner Kovich stated that because that is a County ditch, a culvert may be an option. Mr. Kytonen displayed the priority list that the Commission created at the last meeting. He asked if the list should be made more generic. It was the consensus of the Commission that the list should not be made more generic but the costs should be consistent. Commissioner Dirkswager stated that it seems like it would be a waste of time to prioritize the list any further. She explained that some grants only apply to certain elements. Commissioner Kovich stated that if the list is,prioritized that would provide prioritization of certain elements that may qualify for the same funds. Chairperson Sabel stated that if they are going to ask the City Council for funds they would need a prioritized list. She stated that perhaps it would be helpful to split the list into two, one list that the Commission could complete in-house and one that the Commission would investigate outside funding. Mr.. Kytonen confirmed that he would add an additional column to the table titled funding source. He confirmed that the final table could be less detailed and more generic, rather than listing out each specific task. DISCUSSION OF GRANT OPPORTUNITIES Mr. Kytonen stated that Great River Greening has another round of grants available and perhaps the Commission could apply for some of the other open space areas outside of Martin's Meadows. He stated that a response is required by February 3r . He noted that these funds are strictly available for enhancement and stated this would be a great opportunity to use the newly developed priority list. It was the consensus of the Commission to direct staff to submit an application. Chairperson Sabel stated that cash matches will be given preference and asked if the Commission would have a match available. Regular Open Space Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes — January 18, 2017 Page 5 Mr. Kytonen stated that there would be funds available in the budget for cash match. Commissioner Dirkswager stated that she researched possible grants that the Commission could pursue and provided a list of the available options, eligible tasks, available funds, and funding cycles. Mr. Kytonen noted that one of the grant applications that was mentioned with a deadline of January 27�h is a detailed process. Commissioner Dirkswager stated that she would be willing to help write grant applications as well. Commissioner Kovich stated that perhaps Commissioner Dirkswager can work with Mr. Kytonen to submit some of the grant applications. Commissioner Dirkswager confirmed that she would attempt to fill out the grant applications. Mr. Kytonen confirmed the consensus of the Commission for he and Commissioner Dirkswager, and possibly Commissioner Kovich, to sit down early next week to write a grant application. Commissioner Dirkswager stated that in the future the Commission should become more proactive and perhaps obtain bids for some of the work to gain a more accurate estimate of costs. She also suggested that a joint meeting should occur with the City Council and the Commission. It was confirmed that Mr. Kytonen would attempt to schedule a joint meeting with the Council and Commission in May. Mr. Kytonen stated that there might be funds available through the Anoka Conservation District as well. WEBSITE DISCUSSION a) What's on the Website Currently b) Management Plans c) Pictures d) Other Mr. Kytonen pulled up the City website and identified the different locations in which people can access information on the open space areas. He reviewed the information that is found on the Open Space Advisory Commission page. He stated that staff will keep adding information and photographs. Chairperson Sabel noted that the State forest land borders the north end of the open space rather than the south as posted on the website. Regular Open Space Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes —January 18, 2017 Page 6 Mr. Kytonen asked if the Commission wants to include the management plans on the website as well. He noted that the links could simply be posted to the website. Commissioner Jarson stated that when he started the management plans were listed on the website and he found it helpful. It was the consensus of the Commission to include the management plans on the website. Commissioner Dirkswager asked if photographs should be posted on the City social media accounts. Mr. Kytonen stated that he would follow up to determine if that would be possible. KIOSK SIGNAGE Commissioner Faherty stated that prior to the next morning she would like to create an additional kiosk poster for the open spaces that still need them. She confirmed that the Martin's Meadows poster has been completed. OTHER BUSINESS Mr. Kytonen confirmed that he would attempt to schedule a joint meeting with the City Council in May. a. Next Meeting. March 8, 2017 Chairperson Sabel stated that she will be on vacation during the March meeting. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 8:01 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Kameron Kytonen Natural Resources Technician Drafted by: Amanda Staple, Recording Secretary O TDVE 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. • ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 • (763) 755-5100 FAX (763) 755-8923 • WWW.ANDOVERMN.GOV TO: Andover Open Space Advisory Commission FROM: Kameron Kytonen, Natural Resources Technician SUBJECT: Discussion or Re -naming Open Spaces to "Preserves" DATE: March 8, 2017 INTRODUCTION The Open Space Advisory Commission is requested to consider a request by the Park and Recreation Commission for re -naming (or rebranding) the Open Space properties to "Preserves" or another term that better fits the identity of these areas. DISCUSSION At the January 24, 2017 City Council Workshop the Park and Recreation Commission and City Council discussed the future of the Open Space properties. There was discussion on whether "Open Space" was an appropriate term for these areas or if they should be called something else, like "Preserves". This item will be presented as an agenda item and discussed at the joint meeting between the Open Space Advisory Commission and the City Council in May. ACTION REQUESTED The Commission is requested to consider by the Park and Recreation Commission for re -naming (or rebranding) of the Open Space properties. Respectfully submitted, ly Kameron Kytonen Cc: Shane Stenzel, Park and Recreation Commission (copy sent by e-mail) Mark Miskowiec, Park and Recreation Commission (copy sent by e-mail) Attachment: January 24, 2017 City Council Workshop Meeting Minutes Andover City Council Workshop Meeting Minutes —January 24, 2017 Page 11 years of projects of which over the course of those four years they are going to have about $360,000 under current budgeting practices that are available and the Commission has already identified $233,000 more than what they will have in available dollars. The Commission is making the statement to the Council that the Council should start looking at the budget dollars that do go to park maintenance to increase them starting with next years' budget. Councilmember Bukkila asked if there are any opportunities for savings if they look at a window of three years and put similar items together to do them at the same time for a lower price. Chairperson Stenzel stated they are doing that and that is a reason for looking out five years rather than one year. They will try to take advantage of packaging things together for a lower cost when they can. Mr. Dickinson stated if an item is over the budget but when looked at over years made sense to do now, the Commission would come to the Council for advice on how to proceed. Councilmember Holthus stated in 2018 there is a total of $190,200 worth of projects and there will be $81,720 in the fund balance so they will be short $108,000, that is not reasonable. Mayor Trude stated this is a starting point and now the City budget sorts this out. Mr. Dickinson concurred. Mayor Trude stated things are going to change and this is only a working document. Councilmember Bukkila stated the park improvement fund, is for new build, and replacement is from the maintenance fund. Mr. Dickinson stated that is correct. Mayor Trude stated they are not looking at solving the budget problems at this meeting. Mr. Dickinson stated the message the Commission is bringing to the Council is they have $90,000 a year and it is great they are focusing on replacement but they believe we are not putting enough dollars aside to deal with what the needs are today and the message is the Council needs to make an effort to increase those funds on an annual basis otherwise we are going to fall further behind each year. Commissioner Butler left the meeting at 7:45 p.m. E. Discuss the Future of the Open Space Properties Chairperson Stenzel stated this is being brought up because when they talk to the community about open space, the community sees park. The question comes back to at what point do they look at this as far as funding for open space and parks. He did not think people knew the difference between the two. Councilmember Knight stated open space has not been defined for the public. Chairperson Stenzel agreed. Mr. Dickinson. stated open space has been defined, it was defined by the referendum question and was defined that they would purchase property for the preservation of open space properties, to improve water quality and wildlife habitat. They should make sure that the open space meets those minimal criteria, and based on the Statute authorizing the referendum Andover City Council Workshop Meeting Minutes — January 24, 2017 Page 12 question, that property needs to remain that way forever. People voted on funding that and voted on the definition of those properties. He thought maybe instead of calling them open space they should call them preserves. Chairperson Stenzel asked what the difference was between a "Preserve" and Kelsey Round Lake Park. Mayor Trude thought Kelsey Round Lake Park was a precursor to the open space area. Chairperson Stenzel stated as a resident when he walks through Martin's Meadows and Kelsey Round Lake Park, what is the difference between the two. Commissioner Lindahl stated the difference is in how it was acquired. Mayor Trude wondered if the issue is communication. Chairperson Stenzel stated this is a branding/labeling/communication issue. Mayor Trude thought the new Commission Members wanted to help with the communication issues in the City. Commissioner Miskowiec thought the issue with this is the branding of it and stated the Commission wanted to rebrand some of the names. People did not know the difference. The Council liked rebranding the open space properties to preserves. Commissioner Miskowiec asked the Council to allow them as a Commission to discuss the possibly of rebranding the open space to clarify it better for the residents. Councilmember Holthus thought when this is discussed it should be discussed as a joint meeting with the Open Space Commission. F. Discuss Community -Wide Survey Chairperson Stenzel stated the Commission understood there is a community wide survey going out and wondered if there are any questions the Commission should ask. They will be having a joint meeting with the Community Center Advisory Commission to talk about questions. Mr. Dickinson asked if there are specific questions that are off limits. The Council felt the Commission should not be asking questions about a bond or referendum on parks. Chairperson Stenzel asked if the Council was formulating questions regarding trails. Mayor Trude thought the Commission could do that for the survey. Mr. Haas noted the Commission will have a joint meeting with the Community Center Advisory Commission to formulate questions and will bring them back to the Council for review and approval. The Council thought that was a good plan. Mayor Trude thought there should be some questions focused on adult recreation in the City because in the past they have really focused on the children. Councilmember Knight wondered if they could add a page to the newsletter where they can put all kinds of information in there about what they are talking about then the residents would have Y" O F OVE 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. • ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 • (763) 755-5100 FAX (763) 755-8923 • WWW.ANDOVERMN.GOV TO: Andover Open Space Advisory Commission FROM: Kameron Kytonen, Natural Resources Technician SUBJECT: Continue Discussion of Overall Comprehensive Priority List for all Open Spaces DATE: March 8, 2017 INTRODUCTION The Commission is asked to continue discussion on developing an overall priority list for maintenance and management for the open spaces, which may consist of high, medium and low ratings. DISCUSSION There are four open spaces that all have different levels of maintenance/management needs. Some are well established and have active management while some are newly purchased and could benefit from various improvements, such as trails, kiosks, vegetation management, etc. City staff has updated the Comprehensive List Table, which is included as an attachment. ACTION REQUESTED The Commission is requested to review the latest table and continue discussion on the overall comprehensive priority list for the open spaces. Respectfully submitted, Kameron Kytonen Attachments: Draft Comprehensive List Table Open Space Comprehensive Priority List Open Space Task Description Timeframe Cost Primary Priority/Notes Estimate Funding $ Source Dalske Floating Install boardwalk 2018 or 25,000 Outside High priority; boardwalk (or bridge) across 2019 include in County Ditch 71 2018 CIP and seek grants Dalske Vegetation Assess and remove On-going 2,500 In- High priority; management deadfall/hazardous house needs to get trees near trails done after trails are established Dalske Manage Clear and control 2018 1,500 In- Low priority invasive buckthorn house species Dalske Plantings Plant native 2018 3,000 Outside Low priority; shrubbery and will likely rely forbs to wooded on grant areas lacking diversity Northwoods Timber stand Thin pines Anytime 10,000 Outside Low priority; improvement will likely rely on grant Northwoods Maintain Burning and 5,000- Outside Low priority; prairie on seeding Anytime 10,000 will need to open upland plan this areas carefully to protect endangered species; will likely rely on grant Maple View Manage Manage central 2018-2020 20,000 Outside Medium invasives and wetland priority; introduce Determination native needed for species priority DDffA[FT I T Y O F [DOVE" 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. • ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 • (763) 755-5100 FAX (763) 755-8923 • WWW.ANDOVERMN.GOV TO: Andover Open Space Advisory Commission FROM: Kameron Kytonen, Natural Resources Technician SUBJECT: Discussion of Grant Opportunities DATE: March 8. 2017 REQUEST There are various potential grant opportunities that the City could seek to help fund various improvements/management in our open spaces. In addition, the City is currently utilizing a grant in partnership with Great River Greening in management of Martin's Meadows Open Space. The Commission is requested to discuss the current grant and other opportunities that the City may be eligible for. The Natural Resources Technician will give the Commission an update on a potential grant for the wetland area of Maple View. Respectfully submitted, Kameron Kytonen 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. • ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 • (763) 755-5100 FAX (763) 755-8923 • WWW.ANDOVE RMN.GOV TO: Andover Open Space Advisory Commission FROM: Kameron Kytonen, Natural Resources Technician SUBJECT: Kiosk Signage Update DATE: March 8, 2017 INTRODUCTION The Open Space Advisory Commission is requested to receive an update from the Kiosk Signage Committee. DISCUSSION Members of the Kiosk Signage Committee met on a couple different occasions in 2016, and continues to plan and prepare materials that can be put in the kiosks at the open spaces. The previous owners of applicable open spaces will be or have been interviewed to gather interesting site history information that can be added into the kiosk handouts. The Committee will give an update at the meeting. Respectfully submitted, fameron Kytonen 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W.. ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 • (763) 755-5100 FAX (763) 755-8923 • WWW.ANDOVERMN.GOV TO: Andover Open Space Advisory Commission FROM: Kameron Kytonen, Natural Resources Technician SUBJECT: Discuss Agenda for Joint Meeting with City Council DATE: March 8, 2017 INTRODUCTION There has been interest to schedule a joint meeting with the City Council to discuss pertinent items related to present and future activities in the four open spaces. DISCUSSION There are four open spaces that all have different levels of maintenance/management needs. There are some improvements that may need to be put in future Capital Improvement Plans (CIP) or funding will be needed from outside sources (i.e. grants) in order for them to get completed. Additional discussion is needed on the topic of potentially rebranding the open spaces as well. ACTION REQUESTED The Commission is requested to discuss what items should be included in the agenda for the joint meeting with the City Council. Respectfully submitted, P-- kameron Kytonen