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Andover Open Space Advisory Commission
Meeting Agenda
January 14, 2015
Andover City Hall
Conference Room A &B
7.00 p.m.
1. Call to Order
2. Resident Forum
3. Approval of Minutes: December 10, 2014, Regular Meeting
December 18, 2014, Joint Meeting with Park and Rec. Comm.
4. Open Space Acquisition Update
5. Review Management Plan Updates
6. Recap Joint Meeting with the Park and Recreation Commission
7. Naming of Recently Acquired Open Space — Selmer /Blanchette Property
8. Other Business
a. Next regular meeting: February 11, 2015
9. Adjournment
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TO: Andover Open Space Advisory Commission
FROM: David L. Carlberg, Community Development Director
SUBJECT: Approval of Minutes — December 10, 2014
December 18, 2014
DATE: January 14, 2015
INTRODUCTION
The Open Space Advisory Commission is asked to review and approve the
minutes from the December 10, 2014 regular meeting and the December 18,
2014 joint meeting with the Park and Recreation Commission.
DISCUSSION
Please share any changes to the minutes at the meeting.
ACTION REQUESTED
A motion, second and vote are necessary to approve the minutes.
Attachment
December 10, 2014 meeting minutes
December 18, 2014 joint meeting minutes
Respectfully submoa-t' tted,
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David L. Carlberg
REGULAR ANDOVER OPEN SPACE ADVISORY COMMISSIONMEETING
DECEMBER 10, 2014
MINUTES
The Regular Meeting of the Andover Open Space Advisory Commission was called to order by
Chairperson Gretchen Sabel at 7:02 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard
NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present: Aaron Jarson, Kim Kovich, Jim Myers, Bruce Perry and Suzanne
Van Hecke (arrived at 7:02 p.m.)
Commissioners absent: Jim Olson
Also present: David Carlberg, Community Development Director
Donna Aasness, resident
RESIDENT FORUM
No one wished to address the Commission.
Commissioner Van Hecke arrived.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES —November 12, 2014
Motion by Commissioner Kovich, Second by Commissioner Jarson, to approve the minutes of
November 12, 2014. Motion passed 5 -0 -1 (Perry present).
OPEN SPACE ACQUISITION UPDATE
Mr. Carlberg reported that the sale of the Selmer /Blanchette property closed on November 21st
with a purchase price of $345,000. He advised that the southern ten acres of the property was
purchased using an alternate funding source. He explained that the property adjacent to the east
has been purchased by developers and the City Council wanted additional flexibility and options.
He noted that those options could include possible sale of a portion of the ten acres to the
adjacent developer for a road connection out of the development to the future road planned out to
Hanson Boulevard, realignment of the planned roadway to Hanson Boulevard due to the need to
protect a high quality Black Ash Swamp, the creation of a park and /or the ability for the
Commission to purchase additional land out of the ten acres. He provided an update on the
Kuiken negotiations and reviewed the balance of the open space account. He stated that the open
space account funded $258,750 of the total purchase price of the Selmer /Blanchette property,
noting that the remaining purchase price is being held as a placeholder in the case that the
Council desires the entire parcel to remain as open space in their discussions. He advised that
the Council will be discussing this matter further in the next two months through worksession
meetings in order to detennine what should be done with the ten acres. He stated that perhaps a
joint meeting of the Commission and City Council can occur in early 2015 to discuss this matter,
as there are two new members that will be joining the Council. He advised that the Commission
will further discuss the option of a park to be located in North Woods Preserve and
Selmer /Blanchette properties at the joint meeting with the Park and Recreation Commission on
December 18th.
Regular Open Space Advisory Commission Meeting
Minutes —December 10, 2014
Page 2
REVIEW OF NORTH WOODS PRESERVE MANAGEMENT PLAN UPDATE
Mr. Carlberg stated that additional language and a historical perspective from Richard Aasness
have been added to the beginning of the North Woods Preserve Management Plan. He briefly
highlighted some of the proposed changes to the Plan and suggested that the Commissioners read
through the document and email any concerns or questions by the end of the year.
Chairperson Sabel referenced the map showing cover types that has been updated and asked for
additional information on a specific portion.
Mr. Carlberg provided additional information that was updated on the map through a review of
the Emmerich property. He noted that the change would not have an impact on the open space
area because of the open space designation but confirmed that change could have an effect on the
potential development on the Emmerich property.
Commissioner Kovich identified a portion of the map where the border of the open space area is
defined and should be amended.
Mr. Carlberg reviewed the access portion of the Management Plan, noting that the first paragraph
of the section explains how the parking lot was constructed specifically the work and time of the
Public Works Department to complete the lot at a minimal cost. He referenced the signage
portion of the Plan, and provided a photograph of the completed kiosk that was constructed by an
Eagle Scout. He provided a photograph of the boundary line signage that has been installed in
the open space area to assist in preventing people from trespassing onto the Aasness property,
noting that the sign did not deter a couple people that continued onto private property. He stated
that additional signage can be installed once the ground thaws in the spring.
Donna Aasness stated that when the people entered their property from the northwest corner of
the open space they traveled off of a trail and wandered around the trees and almost to the
Kuiken property to the north.
Mr. Carlberg advised that he put maps into the kiosk today and will also place information about
the property boundaries into the kiosk as well in attempt to deter people from wandering onto the
Aasness property.
Chairperson Sabel stated that perhaps additional signs could be placed on the Aasness property
facing the open space area stating private property /no trespassing.
Mr. Carlberg stated that the Aasness family could choose to place that type of signage on their
property if they desire. He stated that he would like to wait and see if the signs work but
confirmed that signs could be placed in the future that states "City property ends here ". He
encouraged Mrs. Aasness to call the City if she notices footprints on her property and noted that
if she sees people trespassing on the property she could call the Anoka County Sheriff's
Regular Open Space Advisory Commission Meeting
Minutes — December 10, 2014
Page 3
Department. He again asked the Commission to review the document in their leisure and
provide him with any input by the end of the year.
Commissioner Van Hecke identified the area recommended for a prescribed burn and stated that
she would rather let that area be rather than conducting a burn.
Commissioner Myers stated that it would be interesting to have a below ground camera blind
where visitors could climb into the area and see ground level views through the camera.
DECEMBER 18T'y JOINT MEETING WITH PARKAND RECREATION COMMISSION
a. Park Planning In North Woods Preserve /SelmerBlanchette
b. Developing Programming For Open Space And Parks
c. Maintenance Programming For Kelsey Round Lake Park Area
Mr. Carlberg stated that the joint meeting with the Park and Recreation Commission will be held
at 6:00 p.m. on December 181h. He advised that he did update the agenda, following suggestions
made by Chairperson Sabel, to include park planning and coordination in the North Woods
Preserve /Selmer /Blanchette area, developing nature programming for open space and parks,
maintenance programming for Kelsey Round Lake Park area, and other business.
Commissioner Myers questioned if there are plans for a kiosk in Kelsey Round Lake Park.
Mr. Carlberg noted that could be discussed at the joint meeting as that would be a great location.
He asked that the Commissioners think about what they would like to ask or what additional
information they would like to get from the Park and Recreation Commission.
Commissioner Kovich stated that perhaps Martin's Meadows and Martin's Park could be added
to the agenda.
Mr. Carlberg confirmed that park planning and coordination in Martin's Meadows area could be
added to the agenda as the second item.
Chairperson Sabel stated that she has had contact with a naturalist with the DNR that would be
willing to work with the Commission to help with programming and training for the
programming.
OTHER BUSINESS
a. Next Meeting: January 14, 2015
Noted.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 8:00 p.m.
Regular Open Space Advisory Commission Meeting
Minutes — December 10, 2014
Page 4
Respectfully submitted,
David Carlberg
Community Development Director
Drafted by:
Amanda Staple, Recording Secretary
ANDOVER OPEN SPA CE ADVISORY COMMISSION
JOINT MEETING
WITH
ANDOVER PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEE TING
DECEMBER 18, 2014
MINUTES
A Joint Meeting with the Andover Open Space Advisory Commission and the Andover
Park and Recreation Commission was called to order by Chair Gretchen Sabel and Chair
Ted Butler on December 18, 2014, 6:00 p.m. at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown
Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Open Space Commissioners Present: Chair Gretchen Sabel, Vice Chair Kim Kovich,
Commissioners Aaron Jarson, Bruce Perry, James
Myers, Jim Olson and Suzanne Van Hecke.
Open Space Commissioners Absent: None
Park and Recreation Commissioners Present: Chair Ted Butler, Vice Chair Jim Lindahl
(arrived at 6:15 p.m.), Commissioners
Sarah Elstrom, Alisa Lewnau, Angela
Marinello, Mark Miskowiec, and Shane
Stenzel
Park and Recreation Commissioners Absent: None
Also Present: Assistant Public Works Director, Todd Haas
Community Development Director, Dave Carlberg
PARK PLANNING AND COORDINATION IN NORTH WOODS PRESER VEI
SELMERIBLANCHETTE AREA
Chair Sabel stated 30 acres of the recently purchase Selmer /Blanchette parcel will be
open space. Mr. Carlberg showed a map of the area. Last year the City closed on the 26-
acre piece known as the Aasness Property which has been added to the North Woods
Preserve Open Space bringing the total acreage to 46 acres. An Eagle Scout has
constructed a kiosk for the area off of the newly constructed gravel parking lot located off
of Hanson Blvd which includes signage and infonnation available for visitors. The maps
available encourage visitors to stay on the Open Space part of the parcel. In November
the Selmer /Blanchette property of 40 acres was closed on by the City and 30 of the 40
acres were purchased with Open Space funds. The southern 10 acres was purchased with
another funding source to provide some flexibility in locating a road out to Hanson Blvd.
Joint Meeting — Open Space Commission /Park & Recreation Commission
Minutes — December 18, 2014
Page 2
There could possibly be a park developed in this 10 acres as well, which would be a
discussion point for the Park and Recreation Commission. The City would look at
possibly purchasing 15 additional acres north of the Selmer /Blanchette parcel which
would likely exhaust the Open Space funds.
Chair Sabel asked if the Park Commission has seen sketch plans in the area and Chair
Butler stated he had seen some sketch plans in the past. He noted the Park Commission
has discussed the possibility of a park in that area. He likes the idea of having a small
park near the Selmer /Blanchette Open Space area. This could be an entry park to the
Open Space area.
Chair Butler asked if the elevations are known about the 15 acres being considered west
of Country Oaks North. Chair Sabel stated it is currently being used as a motocross area.
Mr. Carlberg showed a map indicating the elevations. He also indicated a proposed path
for the road out to Hanson Blvd.
Chair Butler stated the Park Commission will need to have some significant discussions
about this matter. The Park Commission would consider the southern 10 acres of the 40
acres.
Commissioner Stenzel asked if there was a way to tie in North Woods Preserve Open
Space with the Selmer /Blanchette 40 acres. Mr. Carlberg stated possibly a trail on
Hanson would be possible.
Commissioner Jim Lindahl arrived at the meeting at 6:15 p.m.
Commissioner Stenzel asked about the area to the west of the Selmer /Blanchette property
and Mr. Carlberg stated it is owned by someone who is not willing to sell.
Commissioner Kovich stated a park would be a nice addition. However, the area was
purchased for Open Space and not to be developed and now if the City would put in a
park that was not the original plan.
Commissioner Stenzel suggested tying three developments together with a small park. He
feels there would need to be another access point into the area other than from Hanson
Blvd. Mr. Carlberg stated staff is looking at two access points from the 40 acres to the
east of Selmer /Blanchette property referred to as the Ganter property.
Mr. Haas stated the road will come in off Hanson Blvd when the area is developed.
Mr. Carlberg stated that there are a limited number of municipal sewer units in this area.
The developer may be open to a park being added. Park Dedication fees were received on
this area known as Country Oaks North in lieu of land. There is a black ash swamp in the
area that environmental agencies do not want touched which poses a challenge on getting
the road out to Hanson Blvd.
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Minutes — December 18, 2014
Page 3
Chair Butler stated he would be interested in seeing some plans about using the
motocross track portion of the area as parkland. Any road would need to meet state aid
standards. There is a watermain that needs to be constructed through the wetland area to
the south to provide water for the development.
Mr. Haas stated the sketch plan will be presented to the City Council for review in
January and will be presented to the Park Commission at a later date.
Mr. Carlberg stated some determinations need to be made about the road. The developer
may be asking for City funding assistance to pay for the road since it will be serving
more than his development. Since the 10 acres were purchased with non -Open Space
funds there is some flexibility in the road location.
PARK PLANNING AND COORDINATION IN MARTIN'S MEADOWS AREA
Chair Sabel stated they have developed a Management Plan for Martin's Meadows area.
There is a lot of buckthorn in the area. Mr. Carlberg stated Kameron Kytonen, Natural
Resource Technician, has sent a letter to the adjacent property owners about the
buckthorn.
Chair Butler stated that area has always been Open Space. There has never been a plan to
add active use to this area.
Chair Sabel stated the cedar trees have been removed and the area is in the process of
prairie restoration.
Mr. Carlberg provided a map showing the land cover types. Chair Butler stated the
Management Plan should cover both the Open Space and Martin's Meadows Park.
Commissioner Lindahl stated there is Anoka Conservation District (ACD) match grant
funds available for cleanup of these areas. Mr. Carlberg will follow up with Mr. Kytonen.
DEVELOPING NATURE PROGRAMMING FOR OPEN SPACE AND PARKS
Chair Sabel suggested there be programs set up in the Open Space area and parks such as
having a naturalist lead a tour. She has made contact with some naturalists and they are
willing to do this. She suggested a committee be formed to plan programming. She
suggested a walk be planned every two weeks.
Chair Butler stated the Park Commissioners sign up for projects and this may be a project
for 2015. He requested Lyle Bradley come in and give his Kelsey Round Lake
presentation during a Park Commission meeting. A nature /interpretive center is being
considered as part of the Master Plan for Kelsey Round Lake Park. A Master Plan will be
done for this area starting in the spring of 2015. The Master Plan is expected to be
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completed by August 2015. Buckthorn control is in the plan. There was a discussion of
possibly using goats to keep down the buckthorn.
MAINTENANCE PROGRAMMING FOR KELSEY ROUND LAKE PARK AREA
This item was not discussed due to time constraints.
OTHER BUSINESS
None.
ADJOURNMENT OF JOINT MEETING
Motion by Commissioner Lewnau, seconded by Commissioner Marinello, to adjourn the
meeting at 6:52 p.m. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, 0 -nays, 0- absent vote.
Motion by Commissioner Olson, seconded by Commissioner Jarson, to adjourn the
meeting at 6:52 p.m. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, 0 -nays, 0- absent vote.
Respectfully Submitted,
Debbie Wolfe, Recording Secretary
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TO: Andover Open Space Advisory Commission
FROM: David L. Carlberg, Community Development Director
SUBJECT: Open Space Acquisition of Property Update
DATE: January 14, 2015
INTRODUCTION
Staff has continued to work with property owners to pursue acquisition of
open space property east of Hanson Boulevard NW and north of 161"
Avenue NW.
DISCUSSION
An update will be provided at the meeting.
ACTION REQUESTED
A discussion will be held at the meeting.
Respectfully submitted,
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David L. Carlberg
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TO: Andover Open Space Advisory Commission
FROM: David L. Carlberg, Community Development Director
SUBJECT: Management Plan Review
DATE: January 14, 2015
REQUEST
The Commission is requested to advise staff of any changes needed in both
the Martin's Meadows and the North Woods Preserve Management Plan
Updates. The Commission should consult copies of the plans sent to them in
packets at the end of last year.
Respectfully submitted,
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David L. Carlberg
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TO: Andover Open Space Advisory Commission
FROM: David L. Carlberg, Community Development Director
SUBJECT: Recap December 181h Joint Meeting with Park and Recreation
Commission
DATE: January 14, 2015
REQUEST
The Commission is asked to discuss the joint meeting held on December 18,
2014 with the Park and Recreation Commission.
Respectfully submitted,
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David L. Carlberg
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TO: Andover Open Space Advisory Commission
FROM: David L. Carlberg, Community Development Director
SUBJECT: Discuss the Naming of Recently Acquired Open Space —
Selmer /Blanchette Property
DATE: January 14, 2015
REQUEST
The Commission is asked to discuss the naming of the recently acquired
Selmer /Blanchette property.
Respectfully submitted,
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David L. Carlberg