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Andover Open Space Advisory Commission
Meeting Agenda
May 14, 2014
Andover City Hall
Conference Room A &B
6.00 p.m.
1. Tour of Martin's Meadows
2. Return to City Hall for regular meeting
7:30 p.m.
1. Call to Order
2. Resident Forum
3. Approval of Minutes: April 9, 2014 Regular Meeting
May 1, 2014 Joint Meeting with Parks and Recreation Commission
4. Guest Speaker — Sarah Strommen
5. Open Space Acquisition Update
6. Recap of Joint Meeting with Park and Recreation Commission
7. Other Business
a. Next meeting: June 11, 2014
b. Joint meeting with City Council: May 27, 2014
S. Adjournment
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TO: Andover Open Space Advisory Commission
FROM: David L. Carlberg, Community Development Director
SUBJECT: Approval of Minutes — April 9, 2014 & May 1, 2014
DATE: May 14, 2014
INTRODUCTION
The Commission is asked to review and approve the minutes from the April
9, 2014 meeting and the May 1, 2014 joint meeting with the Parks and
Recreation Commission.
DISCUSSION
Please share any changes to the minutes at the meeting.
ACTION REQUESTED
A motion, second and vote are necessary to approve the minutes.
Attachment
April 9, 2014 minutes
May 1, 2014 Joint meeting minutes
Respectfully submitted,
c
David L. Carlberg
REGULAR ANDOVER OPEN SPACE ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING
APRIL 9, 2014
MINUTES
The Regular Meeting of the Andover Open Space Advisory Commission was called to order by
Chairperson Gretchen Sabel at 7:15 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard
NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present: Aaron Jarson, Kim Kovich, Jim Myers, Jim Olson (arrived at 7:18
p.m.), Bruce Perry and Suzanne Van Hecke
Commissioners absent: None
Also present: David Carlberg, Community Development Director
RESIDENT FOR UM
No one wished to address the Commission.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES —March 12, 2014
Motion by Commissioner Jarson, Second by Commissioner Perry, to approve the minutes of
March 12, 2014. Motion passed 4 -0 -2 (Kovich and Van Hecke present).
OPEN SPACE ACQUISITION UPDATE
Mr. Carlberg reported that the Commission was able to view tonight the Aasness land purchased
and was pleased to see it was nicer than expected. He presented the Preliminary Plat of Country
Oaks North (Putnam property) that has been submitted to the City.
Commissioner Olson arrived at 7:18 p.m.
Mr. Carlberg continued to review the draft development plan and proposed access points. He
referenced the Selmer parcel noting that the alternate offer received by the property owner has
fallen away and there may be opportunity for the Commission to pursue that parcel again should
the property owner be interested. He confinned the amount available in the open space fund. He
reviewed the number of sewer connections that would be available for development in the area.
He believed the best position of the Commission is to simply wait at this point to see what comes
forward.
Commissioner Van Hecke questioned if the draft development plans would include almost a
clear cut of the Putnam property.
Mr. Carlberg noted that there would be areas of preservation around the perimeter of the
development but advised that the storm water management for urban development works against
tree preservation. Commissioner Olson stated that the Council had the opportunity to preserve
the trees north of Constance by not extending the MUSA line.
Mr. Carlberg noted. that there are low impact developments that could come forward but
acknowledged that the cost is higher with that option and the terrain has to be right.
Commissioner Kovich noted that the Commission does have an opportunity to preserve trees that
would be removed for development in that area through the purchase of additional open space.
Regular Open Space Advisory Commission Meeting
Minutes —April 9, 2014
Page 2
Mr. Carlberg stated that the Commission only has a certain amount of money and the intent of
the Commission is to preserve large pieces of land that could otherwise be developed.
Chairperson Sabel advised that the Aasness family would be interested in selling additional land
to the Commission in the future.
Mr. Carlberg confirmed that another 37 acres could be purchased from the Aasness family but
noted that it would most likely be at least eight to ten years before that would occur.
Chairperson Sabel stated that perhaps the Aasness family would be willing to enter into a
conservation easement and /or first right of refusal.
Mr. Carlberg noted that it could be difficult for the Commission to enter into a first right of
refusal, as the funds would need to be available when the purchase is offered. He agreed that
staff could look into that but noted that the funds of the Commission will be depleted prior to the
next eight years.
Chairperson Sabel stated that perhaps Sarah Strommen of BWSR would be willing to come back
to the Commission to provide information on funds that would be available for Conservation
Easements.
OTHER BUSINESS
Mr. Carlberg noted that the Commission will be walking the Martin's Meadows property prior to
the May 14`h regular meeting.
a. Schedule Joint Meeting with Parks and Recreation Commission on May P at
7. 00 p. m.
Mr. Carlberg advised that the Parks and Recreation Commission selected May 15` at 7:00 p.m. to
hold the joint meeting with the OSAC. He noted that the meeting would be similar to a
Worksession and would not be cablecast. He believed that this would be a good opportunity for
the two groups to begin an open dialogue. He confirmed that this is the regularly scheduled
meeting of the Parks Commission.
Motion by Commissioner Kovich, Second by Commissioner Olson, to schedule a joint meeting
with Parks and Recreation Commission on May 151 at 7:00 p.m. Motion passed 7 -0.
b. Next Meeting May 14, 2014
Mr. Carlberg advised that Commission will meet at 6:00 p.m. at Martin's Meadows prior to the
regular meeting.
Regular Open Space Advisory Commission Meeting
Minutes —April 9, 2014
Page 3
He advised that he did receive a draft copy of the resident survey results, noting that the survey
was conducted via telephone.
The Commission discussed methods for improving the resident knowledge of open space and
publicizing the locations such as newspaper articles, a photo contest, and programming.
Commissioner Perry noted that now that fiends have been spent and land has been acquired, the
Commission could also focus on education of those areas to increase use.
Mr. Carlberg noted that more established entrances and /or signage could also increase use. He
stated that once the Council reviews and approves the resident survey he will provide a copy to
the Commission to review. He confirmed that staff will also develop an agenda for the May 1s`
joint meeting with the Park and Recreation Commission and send that to the Commission.
Chairperson Sabel stated that the Commission has once again agreed to staff a booth at Funfest
and will begin discussions at the May 10 meeting. She asked the Commission to think of ideas
prior to the May meeting. She referenced the management plans and questioned if the discussion
had been finished on that.
Mr. Carlberg noted that he is working on them as some of the maps and information was
outdated and will bring the updated information back to the Commission in the future.
Chairperson Sabel asked that the Commission be alerted when Mr. Carlberg walks the open
space areas with other staff members to discuss the management plans and maintenance. She
mentioned the possibility of Emmerich conducting excavation on the open space side of the pond
when he conducts the wetland work on his development in order to create more open water for
the adjacent open space area.
Mr. Carlberg confirmed that staff could review that option.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Kovich, Second by Commissioner Perry, to adjourn the meeting at
8:08 p.m. Motion passed 7 -0.
Respectfully submitted,
David Carlberg
Community Development Director
Drafted by:
Amanda Staple, Recording Secretary
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
OPEN SPA CE ADVISORY COMMISSION
JOINT WORKSESSION MEETING
MAY], 2014
MINUTES
The Joint Worksession Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission and the
Open Space Advisory Commission was called to order by Chair Gretchen Sabel and
Chair Ted Butler on May 1, 2014, 7:00 p.m. at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown
Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Park and Recreation
Commissioners Present: Chair Ted Butler, Commissioners Sarah Elstrom, Alisa
Lewnau, Jim Lindahl, Angela Marinello, Mark Miskowiec,
and Shane Stenzel
Park and Recreation
Commissioners Absent: None
Open Space Advisory
Commissioners Present: Chair Gretchen Sabel, Commissioners Aaron Jarson, James
Myers, Jim Olson, Bruce Perry, Suzanne Van Hecke
Open Space Advisory
Commissioners Absent: Commissioner Kim Kovich
Also Present: Community Development Director Dave Carlberg
Others
APPROVE AGENDA
Motion by Commissioner Lindahl, seconded by Commissioner Miskowiec to approve the
agenda as amended to add discussion of North Parking Lot of Prairie Knoll Park as Item
1 A for consideration of the Park Commission only. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, 0 -nays, .
0- absent vote.
DISCUSS NORTH PARKING LOT OF PRAIRIE KNOLL PARK
Chair Butler stated an alternate bid was requested - $121,000 south parking lot 117,000
for north parking lot. Question before the Commission is whether the north parking lot
Andover Park Commission /Open Space Advisory Commission Joint Worksession
Minutes — May 1, 2014
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should be included if the bid comes in under the engineers estimate. The engineering
estimate for both was $138,000. $100,000 was approved in the CIP. The consensus
was just to do the south parking lot engineering study.
Motion by Commissioner Stenzel, seconded by Commissioner Lewnau to only include
the south parking lot engineering study. Motion carried on a 7 -ayes, 0 -nays, 0- absent
vote.
At the suggestion of Chair Sabel, everyone introduced themselves.
DISCUSS GOALS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUTURE OPEN SPACE AND
PARK LAND
Chair Sabel reviewed the presentation made to the City Council giving an overview of
the Open Space Advisory Commission including review of Martin's Meadows, North
Woods Preserve (formerly known as White Pine Wilderness) and other properties. There
is $484,000 remaining from the $2M and they are currently in the third round of site
search. They have identified study areas based on location of natural features and
corridors. She reviewed the Open Space nine (9) point evaluation criteria. A recent
acquisition was the Aasness Property. The Selmer /Blanchette Property was also
reviewed.
Chair Sabel reviewed the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to discuss goals
and opportunities with the Open Space Advisory Commission. A copy of the Open
Space Evaluation Criteria that has been established was provided for Commissioner
review:
1. Prerequisite: The Area to be Protected is Sufficient in Size and location to
Preserve and Enhance Natural Resources.
2. The Area Presents an Opportunity to Protect Significant Natural Resources That
Would Otherwise be Negatively Affected by Development or Negligence.
Considerations include the development potential or property and lack of
protection by regulations such as wetland and floodplain regulations or existing
easements.
3. Lands Important as Native Wildlife Habitat and Corridors Scoring based on
existence of habitat for native animal species. Additional consideration given for
the size of the area (less than one acre, more than one acre or larger), width of the
area (greater or less than 100 feet) and whether the area connects areas of native
animal species habitat.
4. Potential to be contiguous to additional conservation area.
5. Native Plant Communities (Identified in DNR Subsection Profile of Anoka Sand
Plain) Consideration based on size and quality of the area. Additional scoring if
threatened or endangered species of plants or animals are present (DNR NHIS
Data).
Andover Park Commission /Open Space Advisory Commission Joint Worksession
Minutes — May 1, 2014
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6. Buffer Adjacent to Upland Native Plant and Animal Communities Scoring based
on effectiveness in protecting or connecting native plant communities.
7. Buffer Adjacent to Lakes, Streams, Wetlands and Natural Watershed Systems
Scoring based on width of area and its ability to protect these features. Additional
scoring if the buffer area is adjacent to area within the DNR Public Waters
Inventory or Coon Creek.
8. The Area Provides Opportunities for Passive Recreation and Observation of the
Natural Environment for the General Public Scoring based on public access and
whether the area is visible to the general public.
9. Other Notable features (Historical, Educational, Archaeological, Aesthetic, Other)
Scoring assigned as documented on a case -by -case basis.
The Open Space Advisory Commission will be looking for other potential parcels to
purchase yet this year.
Commissioner Miskowiec asked what would be done with the Aasness Property open
field. Commissioner Van Hecke stated there is already growth that requires no
maintenance. Mr. Carlberg stated they will come up with a management plan for the
property which includes prairie restoration and plantings for pollinators.
Chair Butler asked about access to the Open Space areas. He questioned what are the
right amenities to have for residents. He asked how to make residents aware of the open
spaces. He questioned if a parking lot can be put in why not a small shelter.
Commissioner Olson said the referendum is open for interpretation. Each property has its
own unique needs as far as access. The Open Space Advisory Commission has needed to
act to purchase property when it is available and changes can be made in the future. He
stated it is a developing process as properties have been purchased are relatively new.
Commissioner VanHecke stated in the survey it was obvious that residents are not aware
of the open space. She would like to see some signage on the open space properties.
Hiking is the best use of these open space properties.
Mr. Carlberg stated that two Eagle Scouts are working on signage and kiosks for two of
the areas. The residents need to be educated as to the location of the open space
properties.
Commissioner Van Hecke stated a shelter near the entrance to the Open Space properties
would not encourage littering along the trails.
Chair Butler stated the Park Commission is currently dealing with small parcels of
parkland. Currently there are 70 parks in Andover. There are a lot of small parks
scattered throughout the City. The Park Commission is trying not to take too many small
1 -2 acre parks and trying to focus resources into larger parks.
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Commissioner Lewnau left the meeting at 7:20 p.m.
Commissioner Lindahl stated City maintenance devotes a lot of manpower in maintaining
the smaller parks and have requested the Park Commission try to minimize those smaller
park acquisitions.
Commissioner Stenzel stated the survey showed the residents think we have enough
parks. He asked Mr. Carlberg why the Open Space Advisory Commission was separate
from the Park Commission. Most cities have Parks and Open Space Advisory
Commissions together.
Mr. Carlberg stated he believes the charge for the Open Space Advisory Commission was
to advise the Council how to spend the $2M referendum monies. Commissioner Olson
stated the Open Space Advisory Commission is not a permanent commission for the City.
Commissioner Stenzel asked how the two Commissions can work together in the future.
An example of where coordination may have been helpful was Northwoods Park not
being built near the Northwoods Open Space. The Open Space Advisory Commission
was not aware a park would not be constructed at Northwoods.
Chair Butler stated this was discussed in 2010. At that time, the development looked
very differently than it turned out. A missed opportunity was to talk to the Open Space
Advisory Commission before the purchase was made to have a park at the entrance to the
open space property. He suggests prior to future Open Space purchases a joint meeting
be held with the Park Commission.
Mr. Carlberg said if Selmer and Kuiken happen the Open Space Advisory Commission
will be done, as all monies will have been spent. The Open Space Advisory Commission
may meet quarterly to review the management plans for the properties.
Commissioner Lindahl stated the access to White Pines would not have a good crossing
off County Road 20. The traffic into the development to access the North Woods
Preserve Open Space would be a concern.
Commissioner Olson stated when the property was purchased it did not allow room for a
park.
Commissioner Olson stated all three properties purchased have been wished to be
preserved by the landowners.
Commissioner Lindahl stated there is a park '/a mile from White Pines.
Chair Sabel stated there will be opportunities in the future to work with the Park
Commission on the upcoming properties being considered for purchase.
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Commissioner Miskowiec asked about the Met Council 2040 plan and inclusion for the
sewer district.
Commissioner Olson stated the Met Council is trying to push everyone back in the City.
Commissioner Olson asked what criteria the Park Commission uses when deciding on a
park compared to the number of lots.
Commissioner Lindahl stated each situation is considered separately. He suggested the
Park Commission have a list similar for evaluation criteria.
Chair Butler stated a couple larger parks are needed in the City. The number of housing
units are considered as well as the neighboring resident's access to other parks.
Chair Sabel asked if ball fields can be put on sod fields.
Commissioner Stenzel stated they tend to move but can be done. More is spent on
maintenance in the long term.
Chair Butler stated the City has some parks that are wetland but the City attempts to
avoid them.
Commissioner Van Hecke asked about the trail on Wintergreen and 167`h lane. Mr.
Carlberg stated there would be a trail along the east side of Wintergreen and likely a trail
along 167`h Lane out to Hanson Blvd. NW.
Commissioner Stenzel indicated Ward Lake on the map.
Commissioner Stenzel stated the Park Commission's CIP included a discussion of Round
Lake. He suggested there be a study or master plan for that lake to look at acquiring land
that is currently private and converting it back to public space and eventually converting
it to all park as a regional draw to the area. The master plan would include Kelsey Park.
Mr. Carlberg stated he will see that the Park Commission is updated on the planned
purchases and activities of the Open Space Advisory Commission.
OTHER BUSINESS
May 27, 2014 6 p.m., the City Council has set a work- session to meet with the Park
Commission and the Open Space Advisory Commission.
Chair Sabel suggested having a co -booth at the Fun Fest again this year with the Park and
Recreation Commission and Open Space Advisory Commission.
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Minutes —May 1, 2014
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Motion by Commissioner Stenzel, seconded by Commissioner Lindahl, to adjourn the
joint Worksession meeting at 8:15 p.m. Motion carried on a 6 -ayes, 0 -nays, 1- absent
(Lewnau) vote.
Motion by Commissioner Olson, seconded by Commissioner Perry, to adjourn the joint
Worksession meeting at 8:15 p.m. Motion carried on a 6 -ayes, 0 -nays, 1- absent (Kovich)
vote.
Respectfully Submitted,
Debbie Wolfe, Recording Secretary
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TO: Andover Open Space Advisory Commission
FROM: David L. Carlberg, Community Development Director
SUBJECT: Open Space Acquisition of Property Update
DATE: May 14, 2014
INTRODUCTION
Staff has continued to work with property owners to pursue acquisition of
open space property east of Hanson Boulevard NW and north of 161 s`
Avenue NW.
DISCUSSION
An update will be provided at the meeting.
ACTION REQUESTED
A discussion will be held at the meeting.
Respectfully submitted,
David L. Carlberg