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Andover Open Space Advisory Commission
Meeting Agenda
December 12, 2007
Andover City Hall
Council Chambers
7:00 p.m.
1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Minutes - November 14, 2007
3. Review Feedback from December 11 th Public Forum
4. Presentation and Discussion of Draft Natural Resource Inventory
5. Review Evaluation CriteriaIRanking System
6. Other Business
a. Next meeting
7. Adjournment
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TO: Andover Open Space Advisory Commission
FROM: Courtney Bednarz, City Plannelf
SUBJECT: Approval of Minutes - November 14,2007
DATE: December 12,2007
INTRODUCTION
The Commission is asked to review and approve the minutes from the last meeting.
DISCUSSION -..
Please share any changes to the minutes at the meeting.
ACTION REQUESTED
A motion, second and vote are necessary to approve the minutes.
Attachment
Minutes
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6 REGULAR ANDOVER OPEN SPA CE AD VISOR Y COMMISSION MEETING
7 NOVEMBER 14, 2007
8 MINUTES
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11 The Regular Meeting of the Andover Open Space Advisory Commission was called to order by
12 Chairman Deric Deuschle, November 14,2007, 7:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown
13 Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
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15 Commissioners present: Gretchen Sabel, Jody Kepp~rs, Jim Olson, Winslow Holasek,
16 Bruce Perry and Kim. Kovich
17 Commissioners absent: None
18 Also present: City Planner, Courtney Bednarz
19 Others
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22 APPROVAL OF MINUTES
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24 October 10, 2007
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26 Motion by Commissioner Perry, seconded by Commissioner Kovich, to approve the minutes as
27 presented. Motion carried unanimously.
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29 REVIEW FEEDBACK FROM NOVEMBER 13TH PUBLIC FORUM
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31 Mr. Bednarz stated that the Planning Commission held a few different public hearings on November
32 13 tho He reported that they were not many people in attendance, and it was an opportunity for the
33 members of the commissions to introduce themselves.
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35 REVIEW FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES
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37 Mr. Bednarz stated that he had put together a packet of information regarding the different funding
38 opportunities for the Commission. He reported that their primary source for matching funds on a
39 project would be the DNR. He explained that, in most cases, the Commission would need to have a
40 project in mind before applying for funds. He stated that in order to get funding for 2008 projects,
41 they would need to have their application turned in before the end of March 2008. He advised the
42 Commission to keep him posted on any ideas they may have on additional funding sources.
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44 REVIEW EVALUATION CRITERIA / RANKING SYSTEM
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46 The Commission reviewed the need to develop a fair and objective method of evaluating property.
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1 Commissioner Keppers stated that in his experience some criteria are identified as prerequisites
2 and others are assigned a numerical value to score projects.
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4 Commissioner Kovich questioned whether there would need to be another item added for
5 property near water. He questioned if property near water would receive a higher score than
6 property near railroad tracks. He also questioned whether certain bodies of water would receive
7 more points than other bodies of water. Chairman Deuschle stated that they could add another
8 item in regard to shoreline properties.
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10 Commissioner Olson stated that this committee would determine how to score and the criteria for
11 evaluation, as opposed to just following what is written down already. He suggested that, as a
12 group, they discuss a range of points for each item, in example a range of 50 to 100 points for
13 bodies of water opposed to just stating this property is near water and get 75 points. He stated
14 that they would then issue 50 points for property neighboring Coon Creek and 100 points for
15 property neighboring the Rum River.
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17 Mr. Bednarz clarified the commission would like items 1 through 12 as yes or no questions. He
18 explained that if a property only has 2 out of 12, the Commission might want to look at another
19 property that has 10 out of 12 first. He explained that after that part is done, they could go further
20 into the process and go back to the yes answers and score those based on the ranges assigned for
21 those items. He stated that they might not be able to fully score a property without speaking to the
22 owner of the property, as they may not have all the answers to the items for scoring.
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24 Chairman Deuschle stated that there are a number of different methods to evaluate things. He stated
25 that there are always flaws in a system and some things are not going to fit the way that we will want.
26 He explained that in five years, this isn't going to be the same Commission and they need to come
27 up with a method of scoring that will translate and can be passed to their successors.
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29 Commissioner Kovich stated that the ninth item, in regard to property split being of sufficient size
30 and location should be a prerequisite. He explained that it would be placed at the top of the list and
31 if something does not fit that item, they would not have to waste their time with the entire scoring
32 process.
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34 Commissioner Sabel questioned if they should have something about public accessibility added to
35 the criteria. Chairman Deuschle stated that land could be off of a public road but not necessarily
36 accessible to the public. Commissioner Kovich stated that he would hate to explain to the public that
37 they had purchased a piece of land with the public's money that they are unable to access. The
38 consensus of the Commission was that the land has to be accessible to the public by land or water.
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40 Mr. Bednarz stated that earlier in the conversation, they had discussed identifying specific bodies of
41 water and assigning them a range of values.
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43 Chairman Deuschle questioned ifthey should only consider bodies of water listed on the DNR public
44 water inventory. He stated that any larger wetlands would be listed on the inventory, as well as the
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1 Rum River, Coon Creek, and Ward Lake. Commissioner Kovich commented that might be an easier
2 way to complete that item, since the DNR has already done the inventory for them. It was agreed
3 that this could be used for in depth property analysis.
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5 Commissioner Sabel questioned if they should add another item to the criteria in regard to meeting
6 other funding source criteria. Commissioner Kovich explained that the ability to match funds should
7 be on the list near the bottom with the other add-ons, since it is definitely a plus but not a necessity.
8 Mr. Bednarz stated that Washington County states it as being eligible to leverage for additional
9 funds.
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11 There was a discussion of how item #2 concerning hydrologic systems would be scored.
12 Mr. Bednarz reported of an example on the East Coast where they have further stratification of what
13 is in the' watershed such as percentage impervious surface, percentage wetland, connection to
14 downstream water, etc. It was determined that some of these criteria could be used to score item #2.
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16 Commissioner Sabel questioned how many watersheds are in Andover. Mr. Bednarz stated that
17 he believes there to be about 20 or 25.
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19 Chairman Deuschle questioned how much further they want to go on this issue. He questioned
20 what information they want to get to Josh for the maps. He explained that he is comfortable with
21 the progress that they have made and that the Commission could do the scores at the meeting
22 next month. Commissioner Kovich stated that they only have Josh for a limited time since his
23 contract expires at the end of December and has not been renewed.
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25 Mr. Bednarz stated that he could take the information discussed, add on the things th~t they
26 talked about tonight and send out the information. He reviewed that they have added three items:
27 public accessibility, the public water inventory, and being eligible for additional funding. He
28 also reviewed that they had made item number nine, regarding a property being of reasonable
29 size and location, a prerequisite.
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31 Chairman Deuschle stated that everyone on the Commission should take this information home
32 with them and create their own scoring system. He explained that at the meeting next month,
33 they would have everyone discuss their ranking system. He stated that they could then see what
34 everyone ranked the highest as well as the differences between the systems.
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36 OTHER BUSINESS
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38 Commissioner Keppers discussed the session that he and Commissioner Holasek attended in regard
39 to conservation development. He explained what took place during the daylong session and how the
40 developers collaborate with cities.
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42 Motion by Commissioner Sabel, Seconded by Commissioner Perry, to adjourn. Motion carried
43 unanimously. The meeting adjourned at 8:50 p.m.
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1 Respectfully submitted,
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3 Amanda Staple, Recording Secretary
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1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (763) 755-5100
FAX (763) 755-8923 . WWW.CI.ANDOVER.MN.US
TO: Andover Open Space Advisory Commission
FROM: Courtney Bednarz, City Plann~
SUBJECT: Review Feedback from December 11th Public Forum
DATE: December 12,2007
INTRODUCTION
A second public forum for the Comprehensive Plan will be held on December 11 th.
DISCUSSION
Any discussion related to the work of this Commission will be shared at the meeting.
ACTION REQUESTED
The Commission will need to determine if any action needs to be taken for this item.
Respectfully submitted,
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1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304. (763) 755-5100
FAX (763) 755-8923 . WWW.CI.ANDOVER.MN.US
TO: Andover Open Space Advisory Commission
FROM: Courtney Bednarz, City Plannef.{r
SUBJECT: Presentation and Discussion of Draft Natural Resource Inventory
DATE: December 12, 2007
INTRODUCTION
A presentation of the available natural resource information will be made at the meeting.
DISCUSSION
The intent of this presentation is to familiarize the Commission with the types of
information that are available. This is also an opportunity for the Commission to apply
the evaluation criteria. Please keep the draft scoring matrix in mind for discussion of the
next item on the agenda.
As we move forward, the Commission will be asked to narrow the search for preservation
sites to specific areas throughout the city. Once this has been done, the Commission will
be asked to use the scoring matrix to determine which properties will be recommended to
the Council for preservation.
ACTION REQUESTED
The Commission is asked to apply the evaluation criteria to the information that is
presented and to discuss how the information can best be presented to aid this process.
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1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N,W. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (763) 755-5100
FAX (763) 755-8923 . WWW,CLANDOVER.MN.US
TO: Andover Open Space Advisory Commission
FROM: Courtney Bednarz, City Planne~
SUBJECT: Review Evaluation Criteria/Ranking System
DATE: December 12,2007
INTRODUCTION
This item continues the discussion from the last meeting.
DISCUSSION
Staff distributed a revised matrix and asked the Commission to rank the criteria (1-15) in
the yes/no boxes along the left-hand column and provide a maximum score in the score
boxes along the right-hand column.
ACTION REQUESTED
Please discuss the preferences and determine how the matrix will be completed with a
scoring method.
Attachment
Draft Scoring Matrix
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Open Space Evaluation and Site Selection Criteria
DRAFT Scoring Matrix
Yes/No
Score
D Prerequisite: The area to be protected is sufficient in size and location to preserve and c=J
enhance natural resources
I Criteria (Scoring Methodology) .__.m ..
I 1 Sensitive Groundwater Area
a Wellhead Protection Area (value
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b Within Subwatershed Adiacent to Lakes or Coon Creek (value )
c Adiacent to DNR Wetland (value
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I I 2 Natural Hydrological System
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a Subwatershed Score Based On:
1 sum of %wetland and floodplain, %forest cover, %public land (Range )
2 % impervious (Range )
3 connection to downstream water (Range )
4 age of development (Range
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I I 3 Native Plant Communities (Identified in DNR Subsection Profile of Anoka Sand Plain)
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1 Greater than 5 acres (value
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2 Greater than 1 acre (value )
3 Up to 1. acre (value )
b Quality of Area
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1 High Quality (value )
2 Medium Quality (value )
3 Low Quality (value )
I I 4 Buffer Adjacent to Lakes, Streams And Wetlands
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a Width 100 feet or greater (value
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b Width greater than 50 feet (value
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c Width Greater than 16.5 feet (value ).
B 5 The Area is Included in the DNR Public Waters Inventory
6 Buffer Adjacent to Upland Natural Plant and Animal Communities
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a Width 100 feet or greater (value
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b Width greater than 50 feet (value
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c Width Greater than 16.5 feet (value
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I I 7 Lands Important as Wildlife Habitat and Corridors
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a Contains Habitat of Native Animal Species
Greater than 5 acres (value
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Greater than 1 acre (value )
Up to 1 acre (value )
b Connects Areas of Habitat of Native Animal Species
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Width Greater than 100 feet (value
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Width Less than 100 feet (value
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~ 8 Threatened or Endangered Species of Planls or Animals (ONR NHIS Oala)
9 The Site is Eligible for Additional Funding
10 Public Access is Provided
11 The Area is Not Protected by Wetland or Floodplain Regulations or Easement
Additional consideration may be provided if the regulations provide only limited
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12 The Area Presents an Opportunity to Protect Significant Natural Resources That
Would Otherwise be Negatively Affected by Development or Negligence
The Area Provides Opportunities for Passive Recreation and Observation of the
13 Natural Environment
14 The Area Provides Views of the Natural Environment Along Transportation Corridors
Including Roads and Trails
15 Other Notable Features (Historical, Educational, Archaeological, Aesthetic, Other)
a As documented on a case by case basis (Range )
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DTOTALS
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