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HomeMy WebLinkAbout07.05.06 Discuss Community Survey Results - Open Space ReferendumRegular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes —July S, 2006 Page 5 Mr. Dickinson stated this item is really about renaming parks. They would follow the process with renaming otherwise the new park would follow the plat. Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to direct staff to take the policy as presented, incorporating the details discussed, redraft and place on consent agenda for the next meeting for consideration. Councilmember Orttel stated he would like them to look at item six under the naming criteria because what they will have is all of the parks named after the developer who donates the park and he did not think that was the intent. Mr.*nsAAs+a +Pry the nnnld change it to state that some the criteria to be used in determining appropriate naming. Motion carried unanimously. DISCUSS COMMUNITY SURVEY RESULTS -OPEN SPACE REFERENDUM City Administrator Dickinson stated a Council 2005 -2006 goal is to explore open space preservation. This topic was originally discussed at a Council workshop in January 2006 and questions relative to open space were integrated into the recent community survey conducted by Decision Resources, Inc. Council discussion over the results of the survey at the recent June 27"h workshop lead to some additional questions that staff was asked to research. Councilmember Knight stated the concern he had was if it was put off, it would be two years before they could do it again unless they have a special referendum and that is not practical. He thought if they are going to do it, it should be done now. He suggested they proceed with it. Mayor Gamache thought they could get information from surrounding communities that have done referendums to see how they proceeded to get to the point of voting. He agreed and thought the time is right for a referendum. He thought the residents would be in favor of it. Mr. Dickinson thought staff could get all the information together for a referendum to come about. Councilmember Knight wondered if there would be time for hearings. Mr. Dickinson thought they would need to be done in August. Councilmember Jacobson thought if they were going to do something like this, they need to do it correct the first time. Technically they could get the question on the ballot but by doing so, you look at the timeline for the Trust for Public Land as outlined and they have a twelve -month time line to assemble all the stuff and get the information out to the public. He thought if they are going to try to condense this down to two months, he questioned whether they could get it done in time. He stated on the basis of the timeline and getting the information out, he did not think they could do a good job in the next two and a half months. Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes —July 5, 2006 Page 6 Councilmember Trude stated when she thought of a timeline, she thought of what will come before the taxpayers in the next couple of years and they already know Anoka Hennepin is going to go out in two more years and ask to renew the current levy and if that is on the ballot at the same time as this, she thought people would vote for the school district issue. At this time there would not be any competition and it has been in the public eye because of awareness levels that have been raised and what other communities have done. She thought they should go for the two million dollar referendum and did not think they should go over $20 a year per household. She thought this would buy two or three more parks in the city. Councilmember Jacobson stated it will be a very large public information program to get the word out to people so they understand it. Councilmember Trude thought if they would wait, there would be other competition and it would probably fail. Councilmember Knight thought Councilmember Jacobson was right but he thought they could piggy back on a lot of it. Councilmember Trude thought they need to have a few things laid out but many other cities have done this. Mayor Gamache thought they could use some of the information that other cities have used to get the word out to the public. He thought they could pull that information together very quickly. Councilmember Trude thought they would lose an advocacy group in this timeline. She thought this would compromise the outcome potentially so the ideal of twelve months has people raising funds to help come forward and get this body to get something on the ballot. She stated they have seen the survey and thought this was something they want to get on the ballot. Councilmember Knight thought the biggest difficulty will be matching the twenty dollars to the landscape. Councilmember Orttel thought the biggest problem is going to be on the Council because he has already heard different opinions about what open space is. He did not think open space necessarily meant parks or ball fields. He thought it was more for wildlife. The biggest problem he sees is over fifteen years they will get twenty to sixty five acres. Councilmember Jacobson did not see them buying a lot of land. He thought they would either take the development rights or some other area. He thought they could use the money and multiply it by doing other things. Councilmember Orttel did not like the idea of trying to get this item approved before the large school referendum in a few years. He thought they should have a committee to define open space. Mayor Gamache stated they have until September 15t' and he thought they should take the time to form a citizen committee from now until then and go over some of the information from other cities and see how they put it into place for a referendum. At the end of August make the final decision to see if they are ready to put this on the ballot. He stated if at that time it does not work, they could make the decision to not put it on the ballot. Councilmember Trude thought that would address some of the issues brought up. Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes —July S, 2006 Page 7 Councilmember Jacobson stated he is not against forming a committee but if they decide in September, they will only have two months to get it all together for the ballot. Councilmember Knight reviewed who they should have on the committee to review this. He stated they want to get a mix of rural and urban. The Council discussed how they should advertise for the committee. UPDATE ON SPECIAL DEER HUNT REQUEST City Administrator Dickinson stated Council has requested information regarding a special hunt to reduce nuisance populations of geese and deer within the City. Councilmember Orttel stated if they have a neighborhood with a hundred homes and they have a deer problem, chances are not everyone will think it is a problem so what do they do about that. Mr. Dickinson stated they would just open up the areas to hunt on their own land or permission to hunt on someone else's land. Councilmember Jacobson wondered if there is a limit on the number of licenses. Councilmember Knight explained how the license works. Mayor Gamache wondered if they should have a public hearing on this. Councilmember Orttel thought a public hearing would resolve a lot of questions that will be brought up by the public. Councilmember Jacobson wondered how they would notify the residents in the area of a public hearing. Mr. Dickinson stated this is an ordinance modification, not a variance type of request so they would come through a temporary ordinance process to say the map is referenced and they would modify the map. Councilmember Trude stated her concern is the residents will be surprised about Andover allowing bow hunting in peoples' backyards and she thought they need to look at this being really restricted if this goes forward like they do in Bunker Park. Councilmember Orttel stated it will need to be specific times and dates. ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT City Administrator Dickinson updated the Council on Administrative and City department activities, Fun Fest activities, road improvement project, development activity and miscellaneous projects. Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes —July 5, 2006 Page 8 AMYORICOUNCIL INPUT (Crosstown & Nightingale Pedestrian Crossing) - Councilmember Trade stated she had a resident comment on the Crosstown and Nightingale intersection and how they occasionally see pedestrians crossing the street there and she wondered if they could look at a "No Pedestrian Crossing" in that area. She thought with the curve, this area is very dangerous. Mr. Dickinson stated they were requested to submit a plan for a right turn and bypass lane to the County, which they did and received favorable comments back on that. The next step is to come up with a drawing and the money to do it. He stated they have identified some money in the current CIP for this and will bring it forward to the Council for further discussion. (Merit Development Company) - Councilmember Trade stated residents are wondering when the Merit Develpment Company is going to come back with another sketch plan. She stated she would like to see the Ordinances for that type of residential zoning district on a list compared to what the developer presents. (Railroad Whistle Issue) - Councilmember Jacobson stated they hired a consultant awhile ago to research the quiet zones on the railroad and he wondered if they could come to the next workshop to discuss this because he is still getting a lot of emails from people. Mr. Dickinson stated they are scheduled for the July 25'h workshop meeting. Councilmember Trade stated they also need to look at the costs and where the money will come from. Mr. Dickinson stated they have identified those locations in the CIP at this time but have not put the CIP through the full funding review at this point. They are mainly getting the projects included but they have identified it and now they need to find ways to fund it. (New Cafe Opening) — Mayor Gamache wondered when "Serendipity" cafe will be open on Rose Street. Mr. Dickinson stated they have not received the full building plans yet so they do not know when it will open. (Fun Fest) — Mayor Gamache stated Fun Fest will begin on Friday, July 7, 2006 and run through Sunday, July 9. (Andover Boulevard Structure) — Mr. Dickinson stated the structure on Andover Boulevard has been taken down. Motion by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. The meeting adjourned at 8:35 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Susan Osbeck, Recording Secretary Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes — July 5, 2006 Page 9 REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES —JULY S, 2006 TABLE OF CONTENTS PLEDGE OF ALLEGIENCE ...................................................................... ............................... 1 RESIDENT FORUM .................................................................................. ............................... 1 AGENDAAPPROVAL .............................................................................. ............................... 1 APPROVAL OF MINUTES ....................................................................... ............................... 1 CONSENT ITEMS ApprovePayment of Claims ................................................................. ............................... 2 Resolution R080 -06 approving Resolution/Allocating Off System Expenditure of City MSA Funds onto Council Systems /04- 23/Reconstruction of Hanson Boulevard NW & Bunker Lake Boulevard NW ........................................................ ............................... 2 Resolution R081 -04 approving Plans & Specs /Order Quotes /06- 7/2006 Trail Maintenance 2 Accept Resignation/Par & Recreation Commissioner .......................... ............................... 2 Approve Refuse Hauler Licenses .......................................................... ............................... 2 Approve Memo of Understanding /04- 23/Reconstruction of Hanson Boulevard NW & Bunker Lake Boulevard NW ............................................................ ............................... 2 Update on Nextel Lease Amendment ................................................... ............................... 2 APPROVE PLANS & SPECS /ORDER ADVERTISEMENT FOR BIDS /05- 111FULIP STREET NW & /06- 20A/MEADOW CREEK CHRISTIAN SCHOOL TURN LANE IMPROVEMENTS Motion to approve Res. R082- 06 .......................................................... ............................... 2 APPROVE EXTENSION OF LIQUOR LICENSE/POV'S SPORTS BAR/JULY 21 & 22, 2006 Motionto approve .................................................................................. ............................... 3 AWARD BID/WOODLAND CROSSINGS (05 -32), SHAW'S GLEN (05 -24), CARDINAL RIDGE (05 -20) & ADJACENT PARCELS Motion to Approve Res. R083- 06 ......................................................... ............................... 3 DISCUSS PARK/TRAIL NAMING POLICY ........................................... ............................... 4 DISCUSS COMMUNITY SURVEY RESULTS -OPEN SPACE REFERENDUM ................. 5 UPDATE ON SPECIAL DEER HUNT REQUEST .................................. ............................... 7 ADMINISTRATORS REPORT ................................................................. ............................... 7 MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT Crosstown & Nightingale Pedestrian Crossing ...................................... ............................... 8 Merit Development Company ................................................................ ............................... 8 RailroadWhistle Issue ........................................................................... ............................... 8 NewCaf6 Opening ................................................................................. ............................... 8 FunFest .................................................................................................. ............................... 8 Andover Boulevard Structure ................................................................ ............................... 8 ADJOURNMENT....................................................................................... ............................... 8