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PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING – JULY 18, 2024
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was
called to order by Chair Strombeck on July 18, 2024, 6:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall,
1885 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners Present: Chair Tracy Strombeck, Commissioners Bruckner Johnson,
Kristin Lackie, Jim Lindahl, Chuck Naughton, Liza Shafto
and Shane Stenzel.
Commissioners Absent: None
Also Present: Parks & Streets Operations Manager Jason Baumunk and
Associate Planner Jake Griffiths.
RESIDENT FORUM
No one appeared to address the Commission.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
June 6, 2024 Regular Meeting
Motion by Commissioner Stenzel, seconded by Commissioner Shafto, to approve the June
6, 2024, Park Commission Regular Meeting minutes as presented. Motion carried on a 6-
ayes, 0-nays, 1-present (Lackie) and 0-absent vote.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Motion by Commissioner Stenzel, seconded by Commissioner Lindahl to approve the July
18, 2024 Park Commission Regular Meeting Agenda as presented. Motion carried on a 7-
ayes, 0-nays, and 0-absent vote.
DISCUSS SW WOLD SKETCH PLAN
Associate Planner Jake Griffiths reviewed SW Wold Construction, Inc. has submitted a
Sketch Plan application for a proposed residential development located at the unaddressed
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property at PID 11-32-24-41-0003. The site is generally located north of 167 Avenue NW,
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east of the BNSF railroad tracks, south of 170 Lane North, and west of Ward Lake Drive
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NW and is approximately 33.7 acres in size. Through a Planned Unit Development (PUD)
the applicant is proposing 21 single-family rural lots. The proposed Sketch Plan was
displayed for the Commission. No park is being proposed as part of the Sketch Plan. The
Park Dedication Study does not identify any parkland dedication in this area of the City
and would recommend cash-in-lieu of land for park dedication requirements. The Park
and Recreation Commission is requested to review the proposed development and provide
informal feedback to the applicant on park dedication requirements.
Commissioner Naughton asked if Maple View Park Preserve is the closest park to the area.
Mr. Baumunk stated there are not many parks in the immediate area and there are no trail
connections to this area. Mr. Baumunk showed a map of where the proposed development
is located.
Chair Strombeck asked if a park were to be put it would need to be a larger 3 acre park and
Mr. Baumunk stated that is true. Staff does not recommend putting in a mini-park.
Commissioner Lackie stated she would not recommend putting in a park at this time. With
the larger lots, residents tend to put in their own play structures. She recommends cash in
lieu of land.
The consensus of the Park and Recreation Commission was to accept cash-in-lieu of land
for the park dedication requirements.
DISCUSS the 2025-2029 CIP – PARK CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS
Parks & Streets Operations Manager Jason Baumunk reviewed the Park and Recreation
Commission is requested to review the revised 2025-2029 Park Capital Improvement Plan
(CIP). This was discussed with the City Council at the 6/25/24 Joint Workshop Meeting.
The outcome of that meeting with City Council suggestions for removal is:
2025
Annual Misc. Projects - $25,000
Parks at Fields at Winslow Cove - $170,000. This is a new park that is identified in
the development plans. (Staff would like to establish irrigation and turf in 2024).
Contribution to ACC - $159,107. Final payment for the ACC expansion
contribution.
Sunshine Basketball Court Improvements – Sport Court surfacing, fencing and
improved backboards. Possible lighting as well (Lighting to be evaluated with
parking lot lighting projects) - $65,000.
The Pickle Ball Complex was removed entirely from the CIP, may be revisited
in the future.
Mr. Baumunk stated in 2025, the City is participating in putting a fence around the dog
park in Coon Rapids. The City’s portion of that cost is $25,000 which will come out of
park dedication funds in 2025. There is discussion of adding water to the dog park for
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which a well would need to be drilled. Andover’s portion of that would be $30,000. At this
time the County is not seeking water.
2026
Annual Misc. Projects - $25,000.
Kelsey Round Lake Park Master Plan Additions. Building w/Bathrooms,
Wayfinding, and Interpretive Signs - $230,000 (includes design fees previously
identified for 2025).
Skate Park Expansion - $125,000 – Design and survey in 2025.
Sunshine Parking Lot Lights, West and South Lots - $30,000 (Actual costs TBD in
2025).
Oakview Park Irrigation - $20,000.
Pave Hawkridge Park Parking Lot - $150,000.
2027
Annual Misc. Projects - $25,000
Zone A Projects TBD - $150,000
Pine Hills North Master Plan Additions – TBD $100,000.
Pave Timber Trails Parking Lot - $52,000.
2028
Annual Misc. Projects - $25,000
Pleasant Oaks Sidewalk – ADA Access trail from the street to the playground
$4,000.
Zone D - $100,000.
2029
Annual Misc. Projects - $25,000
Parking Lot Paving TBD - $100,000
Zone C Improvements TBD - $150,000
Funds for these improvements come from the Park Improvement Fund. A projected fund
balance sheet that was prepared by the Finance Department was attached for Commission
review. This projected fund balance sheet does not include the remaining contributions of
the $1,000,000 that was used for the construction of the Community Center Expansion.
Commissioner Stenzel asked if the dog park is on County or City land. Mr. Baumunk stated
he believes it is on Coon Rapids land. Chair Strombeck stated it is headed by Anoka County
but expenses are split three ways between County, Andover and Coon Rapids.
Commissioner Stenzel asked if there is a charge for using the dog park and Mr. Baumunk
stated there is no charge. This is one of the only dog parks in the area that does not have a
water source. Commissioner Stenzel asked if there has ever been discussion about charging
for the dog park to cover expenses.
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Commissioner Shafto asked if the pickle ball complex will be put somewhere else. Mr.
Baumunk stated the direction he received was to remove it from the 5 year CIP.
Commissioner Shafto stated it was brought up at Fun Fest numerous times.
Commissioner Stenzel stated with the removal of pickle ball, a large fund balance remains.
Where is that money going? Mr. Baumunk asked if there are items not included on the list
that should be added. The Prairie Knoll building is an expense where the monies could be
used. At the end of this 5-year plan there is still $2.2M remaining. Commissioner Stenzel
stated $500,000 is $600,000 next year and $750,000 in 2 years.
Mr. Baumunk stated he was asked to evaluate why irrigation goes into some parks and not
others. Commissioner Stenzel stated ten years ago, the Commission had that discussion
and he believes the priority at that time was athletic fields. The second priority was play
areas. The third priority was obscure areas where if monies were available, irrigation would
be put in.
Commissioner Lindahl stated for small neighborhood parks, when they were acquired the
Park budget was low. Irrigation was not promoted due to cost. Resident complaints
triggered the addition of irrigation.
Commissioner Lackie asked if a reservable shelter should be looked at if pickle ball is not
being done. Mr. Baumunk stated that could be discussed and possibly added for the next
CIP. The gazebo at Sunshine is available.
Commissioner Naughton asked if we have looked at other options for converting courts
within the City to pickle ball. Mr. Baumunk stated the one conversion is being used highly.
We could look at upgrading some basketball courts to basketball/pickle ball courts.
DISCUSS ANDOVER FOOTBALL MULTIPURPOSE BUILDING
Mr. Jason Strasser and Mr. Mark Ketchum were present at the meeting representing
Andover Football Association.
Parks and Streets Operations Manager Jason Baumunk reviewed the Commission is
requested to discuss the proposal from the Andover Football Association (AFA)
representatives for a multipurpose building located at Prairie Knoll Park. At the April 18,
2024 Commission meeting, members from AFA presented a concept plan for a
multipurpose building located on the small north field at Prairie Knoll Park. At that
meeting, the majority of the Commission was in favor of AFA pursuing the concept further
including details such as project cost, city funding involvement, operations, maintenance
and logistics of operating the building. This facility would not only be used as a football
complex, but as a multi-use building available to other users. Although this building is
being funded and pursued by AFA, being located in a City park, it must be city-owned and
available to other users.
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If the City is receptive to the proposal and for this project to move forward, staff has a list
of initial concerns that must be discussed and addressed.
Ownership arrangement on how the building must be owned by the City but
possibly run by AFA through a lease agreement. The City Council and Park and
Recreation Commission need to provide guidance on this arrangement.
The building would need to meet all State and Local building codes. With it being
located in a R-1 Single Family Rural zoning district, this could provide challenges
and increase the estimated cost of the project to meet code requirements.
Occupancy must be determined to then determine parking lot, fire suppression, and
ADA requirements including possibly needing to expand the parking lot to
accommodate occupancy.
The building must meet all State Fire Code requirements that would also require
fire suppression. It must be determined if this can be supported by a well or if it
must be connected to the City water main that is scheduled to be installed along
Prairie Rd.
Funding for the project. Will there be a request for the City to partially fund the
completion of this project if project costs rise out of the anticipated budget set by
AFA?
Operation and Maintenance costs. What are the anticipated operation and
maintenance costs and who is responsible for long-term replacement costs of items
such as structural and mechanical.
Mr. Baumunk requested the Park and Recreation Commission discuss the proposed
multipurpose building with the AFA Representatives and give them and staff direction on
how to proceed.
Mr. Jason Strasser, President of AFA, reviewed a Power Point. The Mission and Purpose
Statements were reviewed. Areas of Focus include Player Development during the off
season. They want retention and noted their rates are inexpensive and affordable. They
receive great comments about Andover facilities. AFA is looking to partner with the City
of Andover to construct an indoor Training facility to be used by all. They need the support
from Andover. They want to donate the building to the City of Andover. This is NOT a
football training facility. It is for all sports. Variances to Code may have to be requested.
They have received 4 different bids. Rhino (Steel) - $407,600 building plus insulation;
Legacy (Fabric) - $896,007; Olympia (Steel) $297,000 building, $34,000 insulation and
General Steel (Steel) $296,631 building.
They want to use standard materials. AFA likes the fabric option from Legacy. Although
it is higher, they believe it may be the best option. Mr. Strasser reviewed the inclusions.
There are some fabric case studies at Martin Luther College and Bethany College. The
other options are steel structures (pole-barn type). This is not something a City crew could
put up.
By 3/31/25 AFA would plan to secure $800K - $1M and would make the donation to the
City of Andover. The balance would come from City CIP fund, Naming Branding of the
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facility, Other Associations and Fundraising campaign. Other associations are spending
monies at other facilities for training. The City would be responsible for electricity, security
and general maintenance. He believes the cost would be similar to Prairie Knoll building,
Sunshine building, and ASN. Consider implied User Fees to City of Andover. Other quotes
for construction were sent to Mr. Baumunk.
Mr. Strasser stated there are many residents that could volunteer to do some of the work.
There are many options.
Commissioner Stenzel stated a lot is missing from the costs. We do not know if the soils
are conducive in that location. He would like to see a proforma on how it will be operated.
It is cheap to build and the O&M will be more. There needs to be estimates of the use. Mr.
Baumunk stated the building would need to fit in the neighborhood. The current plan would
not meet code and would require a variance. He questioned if this could even be done.
Commissioner Stenzel asked if Council has seen this. Mr. Baumunk stated they have been
contacted individually.
Mr. Baumunk stated the fabric or steel building would not meet the Code standards.
Commissioner Lackie stated she would not be comfortable with the City taking on another
facility at this time. She would be happy with a privately owned facility.
Commissioner Naughton asked if they have looked at the Community Center for use. Mr.
Strasser stated 8 weeks of turf is not during the time they would need it. Commissioner
Naughton asked about use of the proposed facility. Mr. Strasser stated he could do some
research on association’s use of other facilities currently.
Chair Strombeck asked how many members AFA has. Mr. Strasser stated AFA has never
seen a decline. Currently there are 400 kids for tackle and 100 kids for flag football. These
numbers have increased over the years. They were the largest football association in the
North Metro. There are 3-4 teams for every grade level.
Commissioner Stenzel stated numbers could decrease when Andover becomes built-out. If
the numbers keep declining what happens to the facility. What is sustainable for the long
haul? What is the longevity of this building?
Commissioner Lackie asked how it is decided on who gets the facility use at a particular
time.
Commissioner Shafto stated it sounds like football would be using the facility a lot of the
time. Mr. Strasser stated football is August – Oct for a 10 week period. New programs
would be introduced. 7v7 is a huge growing movement along with training. Commissioner
Shafto asked about facility fee use and would football also pay the fees and Mr. Strasser
stated AFA would pay fees along with all users.
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Commissioner Lindahl stated replacement costs need to be considered for HVAC and turf.
Mr. Baumunk stated more information is needed on user fees, use by which associations,
20 year proforma, etc. If this goes forward what is the next steps for planning. Staff is
unable to do a detailed analysis without this information.
Commissioner Stenzel asked if the facility would need to be on parkland. Mr. Griffiths
stated this could be done on non-parkland property.
DISCUSS 2024 MOVIE IN THE PARK
The Park and Recreation Commission is requested to discuss the 2024 Movie in the Park
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date and select the movie to be shown. At the June 6, 2024 meeting, Friday August 2 or
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9 were discussed for the date along with possible partnering with the Andover Lions Club.
With the timeframe left before the 2024 event, staff suggests to begin conversations with
the Andover Lions Club about possibly partnering with this event for the 2025 Movie in
the Park. City Council has identified $10,000 in funding for programming opportunities in
the Parks each year. This event is estimated at $1,500 depending on the movie selection.
Commissioner Naughton suggested the original Karate Kid movie. Commissioner Lackie
suggested the Migration Movie or Garfield. Commissioner Shafto suggested Elemental.
Commissioner Stenzel stated the movie needs to be geared for kids that would be up that
late. Mr. Baumunk stated the last few years have been animated movies. Adult movies are
shown as well. Commissioner Stenzel suggested this be put on the agenda in January to
discuss the 2025 event. He suggested a band perform followed by a movie. The consensus
of the Commission was to hold 2024 Movie in the Park on August 9, 2024 and show the
original Karate Kid.
The consensus of the Commission was August 9, 2024 and Karate Kid will be shown.
Second choice would be Elemental.
OUTSTANDING ITEMS
Parks and Streets Operations Manager Jason Baumunk reviewed the Outstanding Items
Report:
1. On-going Projects: The contractor finished the resurfacing of the tennis/pickleball
courts at Northwoods West Park. The project turned out great and is open to the
public. We will likely need to replace the courts next time instead of resurfacing.
They were able to build up the low spots as far as possible, but it still holds a little
water.
2. Updates on 2024 Park CIP Projects:
Pine Hills Multipurpose Building – The contract for the building has been signed
and the building ordered. We are still expecting work to start this fall. Staff will
give an update on the timeframe as soon as we get any new updates.
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New Trail Segment Along Crosstown – The new trail segment project along the
south side of Crosstown Boulevard from Bluebird St. to Xeon St. has been awarded
to North Valley Inc. The pre-construction meeting was held this week and work is
tentatively scheduled to start early July and be completed mid-August.
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New Trail Segment Along 7 Ave – This trail is being constructed with the 2024
Street Reconstruction project. The trail is paved but will not open until the street
reconstruction project is completed.
Irrigation Improvements – Irrigation improvements in Sophie’s South and
Hickory Meadows Parks were planned for spring of 2024. Work was completed by
the irrigation contractor on the addition at Sophie’s South Park. Staff will make the
final connections and adjust the system shortly. Hickory Meadows installation will
be done in-house by Parks Staff and that design plan is currently being put together.
Hills of Bunker Lake West Parking Lot Paving – The project is being done in
conjunction with the Full depth Reclamation roadway project planned for the
surrounding neighborhood. Bids came in much lower than anticipated for the
parking lot. Work has started and is expected to be completed by the end of July.
The baseball field there will remain closed during construction.
GameTime Playground Grant – The grant was awarded and the three playground
replacements are completed. The grant will be applied for again as soon as we are
eligible to apply.
3. Other Items of Interest
New Trail Segment Along Coon Creek – The easement has been secured and a
DNR Local Trail Connection Grant was approved in the amount of $250,000. The
grant funds must be used by June of 2026. Staff will begin design work after
Council approval.
4. Parks Maintenance Update: Mr. Baumunk reviewed the Weekly Parks
Maintenance for 6/7/2024 through 7/5/2024.
5. Fun Fest: City employees works many hours getting ready for and during Fun
Fest.
CHAIR’S REPORT
There were no reports but Commissioner’s expressed thanks for Fun Fest workers.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Stenzel, seconded by Commissioner Lindahl, to adjourn the
meeting at 7:20 p.m. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, 0-nays.
Respectfully Submitted,
Debbie Wolfe, Recording Secretary
TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.
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PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION WORK SESSION MEETING
JULY 18, 2024
MINUTES
The Work Session Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was called
to order by Chair Tracy Strombeck on July 18, 2024, at 7:20 p.m., at the Andover City
Hall, 1885 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners Present: Chair Tracy Strombeck, Commissioners Bruckner Johnson,
Kristin Lackie, Jim Lindahl, Chuck Naughton, Liza Shafto,
and Shane Stenzel.
Commissioners Absent: None
Also Present: Parks & Streets Operations Manager Jason Baumunk
AALA Representative Jamie McGowan
AALA FIELD MAINTENANCE DISCUSSION
Parks & Streets Operations Manager Jason Baumunk reviewed Andover Area Lacrosse
Association (AALA) has requested to discuss the possibility of the Parks Maintenance
Staff providing increased field maintenance, specifically painting of the lacrosse field lines.
Staff was approached by AALA inquiring about the possibility of the association paying
the City to do the field layouts and paint the lines on the six lacrosse fields. Based on
estimates on how much time an average layout takes, number of fields, and weekly
maintenance to repaint lines, it was estimated that it would add roughly 200 hours of staff
time annually to paint and maintain the 6 lacrosse fields.
Staff would need to purchase field painting equipment and maintain that equipment. The
average cost of ownership of this type of equipment is $1,500/yr based on a ten-year
replacement cycle. Using estimates from Beacon Athletics, it would require an estimated
400 gallons of field marking paint per season for six fields over a 22-week season.
Estimated cost for paint is $2,640 per season.
The concern staff has is this would require one of the full-time staff members to perform
this task. The lacrosse season is outside the timeframe of our seasonal staff and is
considered outside the realm of what tasks we allow our seasonal staff to perform. To
accomplish this would require the addition of an additional full-time staff member due to
the current responsibilities the full-time Park Maintenance Staff is already committed to.
The added staff member would need to be approved by the City Council and budgeted for
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the remaining 1880 hours per year outside of the 200 hours of AALA paid field
maintenance time.
Currently City Staff only mows, maintains irrigation, fertilizes, controls weeds and
maintains the ag-lime infields of the baseball/softball fields. Painting of the fields and
chalking of the base lines are taken care of by the association. Staff feels they could only
accomplish these additional tasks with an additional full-time Park Maintenance Staff.
Some of the hours could be covered by fees charged to AALA for the requested
maintenance. The remaining annual hours and benefits would need to be budgeted for by
the City Council. The Commission is requested to discuss the field maintenance request
with the AALA representatives.
Ms. Jamie McGowan – Board Member AALA – They are growing in numbers and they
are trying to finalize the Board of Directors. She is trying to come up with a plan for the
painting of the fields. It makes sense to have the City do it because they are familiar with
the process. She did reach out to Jason Strasser AFA and their bid was $7200 to do the
work. She also contacted Boreal and they helped this year with their paint machine. She
looked at a drone service and the initial setup would be $2700 with no weekly maintenance.
Commissioner Stenzel asked if they would be charging the parents for field maintenance?
Ms. McGowan stated they are looking at that. Commissioner Stenzel stated Baseball
charges and then they hire a landscaping company to maintain the fields. He does not know
if a landscaping company would do painting. It is not out of line to charge participants a
fee for field maintenance. Commissioner Stenzel suggested AALA invest in a painting
machine. Mr. Baumunk will check with Champlin to see the cost for their “Roomba” type
painting machine.
Ms. McGowan asked if it would be possible for the City to do the painting. Chair
Strombeck stated in the past parents volunteered. The City does not charge rental fees for
field use.
It was suggested Ms. McGowan contact a landscape company.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Stenzel, seconded by Commissioner Lindahl, to adjourn the
workshop meeting at 7:40 p.m. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, 0-nays.
Respectfully Submitted,
Debbie Wolfe, Recording Secretary
TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.