Loading...
HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC September 21, 1999 T \:........., \"-\,.,\ v- - - -.. 1 \""'1 /0 }{)(qq CITY of ANDOVER REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING - SEPTEMBER 21, 1999 MINUTES The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Jack McKelvey, September 2 I, 1999, 7:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Councilmembers present: Don Jacobson, Julie Johnson, Mike Knight, Ken Orttel Councilmembers absent: None Also present: City Attorney, William G. Hawkins Assistant City Engineer, Todd Haas Fire Chief, Dan Winkel Community Development Director, Dave Carlberg City Administrator, Richard Fursman Others RESIDENT FORUM Jerry WindschitJ - asked for help in obtaining public documents relating to the calculations for the Tax Increment Financing of The Homestead. He has been trying to get those calculations for six weeks and have made numerous requests. Neither the Staff nor the bond counsels have been able to produce those documents. Mr. Fursman stated he was unaware of the difficulties Mr. Windschitl has encountered. He offered to talk with the fiscal agent tomorrow in an attempt to obtain those documents. Steve Maddson. Juran & Moody - understood a couple years ago Tom Truzinski ran some preliminary numbers for tax increment work and presented those to the City. Subsequent to that, a plan was put into place but Juran & Moody was not used. He talked with Mr. Truzinski, who has since left the firm, who acknowledged he ran those preliminary numbers; but since they were not used, he may have purged those documents when he left. If they do a project and are paid a fee, the documents would be public. They keep copies as well as give them to the City. In this case, the numbers were never needed. Mr. Fursman also noted that no revenue bond was done for The Homestead, so there was no activity to be done by a bond counsel. He will look into the item further for Mr. Windschitl. Winslow Holasek. I I 59 Andover Boulevard - felt Northern Natural Gas has been very vague about where the additional gas is needed. They are asking for an expedited certificate to build the last six miles of their proposed new gas pipeline. He then reviewed documents which indicate that the additional gas is actually needed in eleven towns west of Elk River. He also presented maps showing that the Northern Natural Gas system is already looped. He felt they should be able to find u ..---..-- ~- -- . ~ . -- Ii LlJ' '~-r {'.}15 /qq REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 21,1999 TABLE OF CONTENTS RESIDENT FORUM . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. I AGENDA APPROVAL. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 3 CONSENT AGENDA Approve tobacco license (Orion Company of Anoka) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 3 Resolution RI 96-99 approving increaselNon-intoxicating off-sale liquor license fee .. 3 Resolution R197-99 awarding bidlIP99-32/1999 reclaiming and overlay............ 3 Approve quoteslPublic Works and Sunshine Park signs. . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 3 Request two utility vehicleslFire Department ................................. 3 Request update computerslFire Station # I ....................... . . . . . . . . . . . .. 3 Request authorization/Firefighter training contract! Anoka Technical College ........ 3 Request purchase emergency vehicle priority control infrared emitters ............. 3 Approve lube system additionlPublic Works/I 999 Equipment Certificate..... ...... 3 Approve purchase of truck body, hoist, plow and hydraulicslParks Department. . . . . .. 3 Approve purchase of easement machinelPublic Works . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 3 Update of Kelsey-Round Lake ParklIP96-I/Ribbon cutting ceremony (Oct 7) . . . . . . .. 3 APPROVAL OF MINUTES .................................................. 3 PRESENTATION/ST. FRANCIS SCHOOL DISTRICT 15 REFERENDUM ........... 4 PUBLIC HEARING: IP99-281P A VINGINA V AJO, 173RD AND 175TH . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 4 Resolution R I 98-99 ordering the improvement . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 6 1999C GENERAL OBUGA TION SPECIAL ASSESSMENT BOND Resolution RI 99-99 awarding the sale (to Norwest Investment Services) ........... 7 ORDER FOR ABATEMENT/3394 146TH LANE NW Resolution R200-99 to so order .................................. . . . . . . . . .. 7 ORDINANCE NO. 247, RIGHT-OF-WAY MANAGEMENTIFEES Motion to table .... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 8 USE OF TRAIL FUNDS ON PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PROJECTSIUSE OF TRAIL FUND Motion to move in affirmative both items .................................... 9 REVISED 1999 PARK CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET Motion to approve ...................................................... 9 JOINT MEETING WITH CITY OF RAMSEY ................................... 9 REQUEST TO BID FOR NEW FIRE DEPARTMENT PUMPER TRUCK Motion to approve ..................................................... 10 AMMlNORTHMETROMAYORS' ASSOCIATION............................. 10 CONSIDER P ARTICIP A TION IN METROPOLITAN UV ABLE COMMUNITIES ACT Motion to decline participation ........................................... I I APPROVAL OF CLAIMS .................................................. II APPROVE HIREIPUBLIC WORKS MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR Motion to table . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. I I ADJOURNMENT . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. I I --- ~ --~---- :[ I Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - September 21, 1999 Page 2 a more suitable route than force the line through the dense areas of Andover. Northern Natural Gas (Resident Forum, Continued) has argued an expedited certificate to construct the last six miles of the line will have no effect on the project; however, he felt it does make a difference because it locks in either the proposed route over the existing easement or the FERC alternate route. It was his opinion that the entire line should be considered before any construction is done, and he urged the City to protect their rights and file for an intervenor status on the expedited certificate. Mr. Holasek also referred to comments made by Mr. Fursman, Page 4 of the September 7 City Council Meeting Minutes. He felt the Council should remain neutral in this and not make any recommendations. Mr. Fursman clarified his comments were directed toward the City Council for their consideration only. The Council has taken no official position on the issue. Larry Whitman. 3736 I 71 st Circle - stated he loves the City and feels it is a great place to raise a family. Until recently, he was not involved in City government; but that changed when they received the environmental assessment from FERC. He has done a lot of research since then and learned that the City Council, Staff and pipeline task force knew for months that an alternate pipeline route was being proposed and pretty much where the location would be. It was only after the environmental assessment came out in August did anyone let them, the impacted homeowners along the FERC alternate route, know about the proposal. That route affects a very, very large group of people who believe they have been treated unfairly and without due process. Now they are hearing the Council and Task Force did not mean for the pipeline to go anywhere through Andover. He doesn't believe that. He is perplexed that there is a real conflict of interest and no City officials are taking it seriously. Their group has formally requested of FERC not to be represented by Andover in this matter, as they have a serious issue of trust. They are confident they can represent themselves and that the line will be placed along the proposed route where 80 percent of the people have agreed and have received payment for that line. When and if NSP wants to install another line along his property, he would not fight to reroute it onto other neighbors in the City. It is the intent of their group that this will not happen again to other residents in this City. Mr. Holasek - stated he called people along the FERC alternate route to be on the task force committee if they desired. They can call him or Mr. Hinzman at City Hall. Mr. Whitman stated people did call Mr. Hinzman and was told he didn't know how to join the task force. Mr. Carlberg explained the task force is just an informal group, not a Council-appointed one. Anyone can attend. Theresa Barnes. 2073 I 70th A venue - stated she was contacted by a neighbor that a survey team was on her property. That team would not identifY themselves but said they were doing a project for the City to work on a drainage problem. She doesn't have a drainage problem on her property and wondered who the people were so she can contact them. Mr. Haas stated he has talked with Ms. Barnes. To his knowledge, the City does not have a survey crew working in that area on any project. The Council noted any work being done is independent of the City. They suggested contacting Northern Natural Gas to see if they have survey crews in that area. -- --- - .. . ' I, Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - September 21, 1999 Page 3 AGENDA APPROVAL Add Item 6a, Order for Abatement, 3394 146th Lane NW; Item 8a, Joint Meeting with City of Ramsey; and Item 8b, Association of Metropolitan Municipalities / North Metro Mayors' Association. Remove from Consent Agenda for discussion, Item 14, Request BidlNew Pumper/I 999 Equipment Certificate; Item 23, Approve HirelPublic Works Maintenance Supervisor; and Item 24, Approve Use of Trail Fund. Motion by Knight, Seconded by Orttel, the Agenda as amended. Motion carried unanimously. CONSENT AGENDA Item 10 Approve Tobacco License (Orion Company of Anoka) Item I I Approving Increase/N on-Intoxicating Off-Sale Liquor License Fee (Resolution RI 96-99) Item 12 Award BidlIP99-32/1999 Reclaiming and Overlay (Resolution R197-99) (Bauerly Bros., Inc for $166,1 18.74) Item I3 Approve QuoteslPublic Works and Sunshine Park Signs Item I 5 Request Two Utility VehicleslFire Department Item 16 Request Update ComputerslFire Station #1 Item 17 Request AuthorizationlFirefighter Training Contract! Anoka Technical College Item I 8 Request Purchase Emergency Vehicle Priority Control Infrared Emitters Item 19 Approve Lube System AdditionlPublic Works/1999 Equipment Certificate Item 20 Approve Purchase of Truck Body, Hoist, Plow and Hydraulics/Parks Department/1999 Equipment Certificate Item 2 I Approve Purchase of Easement MachineIPublic Works Item 22 Update of Kelsey-Round Lake ParklIP96-llRibbon Cutting Ceremony (Thursday, October 7) Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Johnson, approval of the Consent Agenda. Motion carried unanimously. APPROVAL OF MINUTES September 1, 1999, Special Meeting: Correct. September 7, 1999, Regular Meeting: Correct as written. Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Johnson, approval of the September I Minutes. Motion carried on a 3- Yes, 2-Present (Knight, Orttel) vote. .----- ---- --~- -~ -.---- - -. - 1· Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - September 21, 1999 Page 4 (Approval of Minutes, Continued) Motioll by Knight, Seconded by Johnson, approval of the September 7 Minutes. Motion carried unanimously. PRESENT A TION/ST. FRANCIS SCHOOL DISTRICT 15 REFERENDUM Mike Wyatt, 1688 249th Avenue, Interim Superintendent of Independent School District 15, presented a brochure which explained the district's fund referendum election on November 2. The election will be conducted in the school buildings. The district is asking for approval of an operating fund referendum which will generate $ 1.4 million. Of that amount, $400,000 comes from the taxpayers and $ I million will come from additional state aid because of equalization to offset a fund balance deficit as a result of a number of contributing factors over the last three years. He encouraged the residents of District 15 to become fully informed on the issue and to vote. PUBLIC HEARING: IP99-28/PA VING/NA VAJO STREET NW, 173RD A VENUE NW AND 175THAVENUENW Mr. Haas reviewed the proposed street improvement project. The estimated cost to do Part I, I 75th A venue and Navajo, would be $4,395; to do Part 2, 173rd A venue between Seventh and Navajo, $4,826; and to combine the projects, $4,420 assessed over five years at 6 percent interest. The lot on the north side of I 73rd and Seventh Avenue, owned by Perry, is not subdividable and is proposed to be assessed as one lot. The City Council does have the option to defer the assessments on some of the lots. The City would have to pick up those lots from reserved City funds. The costs of maintaining the dirt road were not detennined for this evening's meeting. Mayor McKelvey opened the hearing for public testimony, 7:54 p.m. LaVonna Newstrom. 17365 Navaio - asked in 1996 when the Council discussed deferments for agricultural land, what prompted the decision to put that into place. Councilmember Jacobson didn't think it is legal to assess property that is in Green Acres. Attorney Hawkins advised State statutes gives the ability to defer assessments but interest does accrue. Ms. Newstrom - stated at that time the project was rejected because there was no consensus as to where the funds for the defennents would come from. She didn't see anything in past Minutes on the source of the funds for these deferments. This is where it ended last time, and she is concerned that this is where it will end again. The majority of the residents on 175th and Navajo want this project. Willard Maki. I 75th Avenue - has been a resident there since 1971 and has talked to the City Engineer several times. The people west of him have blacktop, and he has about 80 percent blacktop ---.- -- -~ ~- ~-~--- ........-- _.. II Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - September 21, 1999 Page 5 (Public Hearing: 1P99-28/Paving, Continued) in front of his lot. He is being assessed $2,200 for about 30 feet of road, but the assessments for Councilmember Knight, across the street, will be deferred because it is in Green Acres. He calculated his 30 feet comes to about $70 per foot. The people on Navajo would be paying between $ I 2 and $ 18 per foot. This is totally unfair. There has been a lot of grief with the dust over the years, feeling the roads should be paved. He also felt the deferment loop hole is neither morally or ethically right, stating it should be abolished. He disagrees with the deferment because it affects the taxpayers of the community. There should only be defennent because of hardship. Councilmember Knight had a 20-year deferment already. He learned that a 1.3-acre lot sells for about $50,000 without City sewer and water, and Mr. Knight has 13+ acres. He didn't think there should be a deferment in this case, especially one without interest.. Councilmember Orttel explained the primary reason for deferring assessments is to keep the City from forcing development. If a huge assessment is placed against property, it will probably be forced to develop. There is a benefit to keeping the rural area rural and to maintain open spaces. Ham Lake defers assessments on agricultural land but does assess one unit for the homestead. Mr. Erickson did bring up the issue with the 30 feet on Mr. Maki's property and he recalled the Council's decision was to roll that cost into the overall project. Mayor McKelvey also noted that the deferment is a way to get the road blacktopped. Those with larger amounts ofJand can have the controlling vote to stop the project, and the deferment of the assessments may mean the project can proceed. Bruce Perry. 17337 Roanoke - was concerned with the possibility of having an assessment against his property. He has an odd-shaped lot on the north side of I 73rd. Until 1988 he owned two parcels, but the City required him to combine them to build a barn in the back. His home fronts on Roanoke. Since that is one parcel with a side yard on I 73rd, he felt his property should not be assessed for 173rd. If split again, he would want to keep the barn and the house on the same parcel. There is only 200 feet of frontage on I 73rd, and 300 feet is needed per the ordinance. There is also a power line through the parcel which restricts buildability even if it were split into two lots. His parcel is not under Green Acres. He keeps sheep and uses the driveway to 173rd only a half dozen times a year to bring in hay. Mr. Haas stated if Mr. Perry's lot were split, a variance would be on the frontage or a variance could be given to the area and subdivide off Roanoke. This is a different situation than the Padula property to the south of 173rd. Those are four separate parcels. The City would require access off I 73rd if a house were constructed on the corner lot, and that is why it is proposed to be assessed. Mr. Carlberg noted a 160-foot variance would be required for Mr. Perry to subdivide a lot off 173rd. If the Council chooses to assess Mr. Perry's lot at this time, it is a good argument in the future to grant that variance. Frank Padula. 4550 I 73rd Avenue - stated all of his property is actively farmed, but he has opted not to participate in the government program. He owns all of the parcels south of I 73rd plus one to the east off Navajo. Two parcels have houses on them. He reviewed a letter sent to the Mayor, Councilmembers and Staff expressing his reasons for opposing the project. He was concerned with having five unnecessary assessments levied against his land, with the additional expenses the road ---- ---"- - T: Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - September 21, 1999 Page 6 (Public Hearing: IP99-28/Paving, Continued) would cause him for farm equipment, and for the safety along the road ifbJacktopped. He wondered ifhe would be penalized because he is not enrolled in Green Acres. WilI the increased run off, which contains salt, go into his alfalfa field? Can this road could be designated a minimum maintenance road.? What agricultural benefits does he receive for this added expense? He moved to this area 27 years ago to enjoy a rural atmosphere and should not have to change his lifestyle to accommodate others. Councilmember Knight is also a farmer, and he felt they should have some rights. Mr. Padula continued, Mr. Maki stated Councilmember Knight should sell his land, but that is up to him if he wants to. Also, the county gave him an access to his property from Roanoke when they built the road. Mr. Padula also stated that Mr. Maki never paid for the tar in front of his property. Those people will get by without having to pay anything. In discussing the deferment policy, Councilmember Orttel noted the policy states the land must meet the agricultural requirements. It does not state it must be in Green Acres. He felt that any deferment may have to show a certificate from the county indicating it is being farmed unless it is in Green Acres. Richard Wandersee. 17315 Navaio - supports the resurfacing of the road, including l73rd. It would not be responsible planning to do only a portion of the project. The entire thing should be done now when it is less costly to do so. Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, to close the public hearing. Motion carried on a 4- Yes, I-Abstain (Knight) vote. The Council discussed the project, noting this is the third or fourth time the request has been before them and it always seems to end with the same questions. They felt they owe it to the people to have the project done and to make a decisions on the deferments as to which parcels would be deferred and where the funding would come from. It was then agreed that agricultural properties that did not have houses on them would be deferred, which includes the properties of Perry, Knight and Padula. Eight parcels were designated for deferral at a cost of about $35,000. It was pointed out that the actual costs will not be known until the project is bid next spring. No specific funding source for those deferments was identified this evening. The Council also proposed overlaying that portion of I 75th that is already paved using the monies from the overlay account, and include that as a part of this project. Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Johnson, the Resolution prepared with the caveats to order Option 3 (Navajo Street, l75th Avenue and 173rd Avenue), include the resurfacing of 175th to Roanoke with funds to come from the Street Overlay budget; and charge for the 20 feet on the Maki property on the per-foot basis. (Resolution R198-99) Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Abstain (Knight) vote. 8:54 p.m. , .- Ð Regular Andover Cily Council Meeting Minutes - September 21. 1999 Page 7 A WARD SALE: 1999C GENERAL OBLIGATION SPECIAL ASSESSMENT BOND Steve Maddson, Juran & Moody, reviewed the results of the bids received for the sale of$3,525,000 General Obligation Special Assessment Bonds. The low bid was from Norwest Investment Services, Inc., at a net interest rate of 4.3721 percent and a purchase price of $3,510,018.75. He is recommending approval. Motion by Orttel, Seconded by Jacobson, the Resolution as presented accepting proposal on sale of $3,525,000 General Obligation Improvement Bonds of 1999, providing for their issuance and pledging for the security thereof special assessments and net revenues, note the award to Norwest Investment Services with Staff to insert the specific dollar amounts. (Resolution R199-99) Motion carried unanimously. ORDER FOR ABATEMENT/3394 U6TH LANE NW Attorney Hawkins explained he was advised by the Building Official that the residents at 3394 I 46th Lane NW had been occupying the premises in violation of the Uniform Building Code. There are a number of infractions, plus a Certificate of Occupancy was never issued. They have made numerous attempts over the past several months to resolve the matter, but to no avail. It does not appear the City will get any voluntary cooperation from the property owner, so he requested the Council declare the dwelling to be a hazardous and substandard building and order the abatement of said nuisance. The owner will be given a certain number of days to correct the violations. If that is not done, the City will have the ability to go to court to remove the individuals from the building until it is in compliance with code. Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, the Resolution and Order for Abatement in the matter of the hazardous and substandard building located at 3994 I 46th Lane NW in the City of Andover, as presented by Staff. (Resolution R200-99) DISCUSSION: Dave Emmons. 3982 146th Lane - asked if he and the neighbors can obtain a copy of the abatement order. They want to know the procedure. Attorney Hawkins advised they can obtain a copy of the order. The City has the ability to court order the people off the residence and to correct any of the substandard items. Mr. Emmons - was not specifically concerned with the fact that there is no lawn but that it was not graded properly for drainage. Also, who detennines that the items are adequately corrected. Council noted the final grading will be reviewed. Dave Almgren, the Building Official, will make the final determination. Mr. Emmons - was concerned that the owners of the property are trying to do as little as possible to fix up the property. They want to make sure the lawn is graded properly, not just seed thrown down. He has talked with the Building Official several times about this issue. He expressed concern that ,- n Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - September 21, 1999 Page 8 (Order for Abatement/3394 146th Lane NW, Continued) he didn't find Mr. Almgren to be very tough or moving very fast on this issue. Many people have made numerous calls about this issue over the past three years, and nothing appears to have been done until now. This is the third party that has been in the house. He called Mr. Haas 13 times in the last year to stop the erosion onto his yard. Other neighbors also expressed concern that they must follow the regulations, but there has been no enforcement against this property. Mr. Fursman explained that Mr. Almgren and others have been working very diligently on this issue. It is very difficult when someone forges city documents and closes on a house. This isn't the only house that this individual has sold illegally. It gets into the issue offraud and deception; and it takes time to resolve, especially in a year where Mr. Almgren is also doing inspections on 450 single family houses and commercial properties in the City. This has been given to the legal counsel and the Council is taking the necessary steps to correct it. The City has never seen this type of deceit or complications, and he begged the neighbors' indulgence. Mr. Emmons - apologized ifhe personalized his comments toward Mr. Almgren. They want the Council to know they have been contacting Mr. Almgren and nothing seems to be happening. It is very frustrating for the neighbors. Councilmember Knight called the question. Motion carried unanimously. APPROVE ORDINANCE NO. 247, RIGHT-OF-WAY MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE! APPROVE RESOLUTION SETTING FEES/ORDINANCE NO. 247 Mr. Carlberg explained since the Council agenda was delivered last week, some Councilmembers met with Staff and expressed concerns with language and some sections. He suggested the Council may want to table the item to discuss it in more detail at a later date. Attorney Hawkins reviewed the background leading up to this proposed ordinance, which is an attempt to maintain some uniformity in right-of-way management. Councilmember Jacobson stated he has a number of questions on the proposal, such as the mandatory denial of a Permit for any project that requires excavation or when a portion of right of way was constructed or reconstructed within the preceding five years. Or the definition of excavation being 12 inches deep, which would require a fee of$450 to dig two holes to jack a line under the road, or $225 for a single utility pole. He didn't think that is what was intended, and he suggested the other Councilmembers read the proposed ordinance. Motionby Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, to table this temporarily and move it to the work session, Items 4 and 5. Motion carried unanimously. -~ -- ---- n Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - September 21, 1999 Page 9 DISCUSS USE OF TRAIL FUNDS ON PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PROJECTS/APPROVE USE OF TRAIL FUND Mr. Haas explained there is $162,438.01 in the trail fund that would be available for projects. Trail fees are now being collected at the time of the final plat, but the Council has not authorized the Park Board to pay for the trails from that fund. Those funds would be specifically for regional trails. The recommendation is that Kelsey-Round Lake Park be considered as a part of the regional trail system because it is considered a regional park. Park dedication funds will be used to pay for the Hawk Ridge well. Park and Recreation Commissioner Dave O'Toole explained they have been paying for trails out of their park dedication. The Council approved the trail fees for new homes. Had they known they could use the trail fund fees, they would have done so and used the park dedication funds for capital improvements in the parks. They also want to reserve funds for the park at the WDE site, Shadowbrook and others. The Park Board feels the trails are separate from the parks. They are a transportation issue. Councilmember Orttel thought there was discussion about reserving some of this money for the crossings over Hanson and Bunker Lake Boulevards. Mr. Haas understood the City would be looking for grants and other sources of funding for those crossings. Trails to be considered for next year are along Crosstown Boulevard from 148th Avenue, the Coon Creek corridor trail, and along Crosstown Boulevard south of Bunker Lake Boulevard to tie into the Coon Rapids system. That one is 100 percent eligible from state aid funds. Mr. Haas explained when application was made to the DNR for the grant for Kelsey-Round Lake Park, it stated the City's $50,000 would come from Park Capital Improvement and park dedication funds. He is not sure the State of Minnesota will allow the City to revise that application for that $50,000 to come from the trail fund. Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, on Items 7 and 24, in the affirmative (Use of trail funds on previously approved projects and use of trail fund), subject to the $50,000 for Kelsey Round Lake being accepted by the DNR. Motion carried unanimously. APPROVE REVISED 1999 PARK CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET Motion by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, to move as proposed, subject to Item 7 (change $50,000 for Kelsey-Round Lake Park, Phase II to Hawkridge Park Well subject to DNR approval of the grant with the change in the City's funding source). Motion carried unanimously. JOINT MEETING WITH CITY OF RAMSEY The Council preferred to not meet with Ramsey on September 30 as proposed because of the county meeting that evening. Staff was asked to negotiate another date. ---- -- - - t Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - September 21, 1999 Page 10 REQUEST TO BID FOR NEW FIRE DEPARTMENT PUMPER TRUCK Charlie Veiman. 13646 Crooked Lake Boulevard - felt that $330,000 for a truck was very expensive. The truck being replaced only has 21,000 miles on it and was built in 1979. He didn't think it looked worn to the extent that it needed to be replaced yet and especially at this price. Chief Winkel explained fire trucks are not evaluated strictly on mileage. That truck has run many, many hours at fire scenes. It was the work horse of the Fire Department for years. The Department realizes it costs a lot of money to replace the truck. They spent I Y, years researching and preparing specifications. The intent is for the replacement truck to include the updated technology and to be able to carry a crew of five to the fire scene rather than having to run more than one truck. It is also to meet ISO and OSHA standards. The truck at Station 3 is proposed as a reserve pumper, which adds to the ISO rating. Without it, the ISO rating could drop from a Level 4 to a LevelS. He believed it is time to replace the pumper, and they are following the replacement schedule. The new truck will be on a 25-year replacement program, has an aluminum body and is riveted to last longer. Mr. Veiman - argued it would take longer to get to a scene if the truck has to wait for five people. Chief Winkel didn't think that would be an issue. A crew of five is needed at the scene to do all the things that need to be done. OSHA has standards on how many people there much be. Expanding the crew from three to five can be done in a matter of seconds. The larger truck can also be used as a rehab center, as it is very stressful on a scene. In answering questions from the Council, Chief Winkel eXplained the maintenance schedule, the specifications, that the number of hours on the existing truck is probably equivalent to 75,000 to 100,000 miles. It was a first responder for many years. Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Johnson, in the affinnative for Item 14. DISCUSSION: Councilmember Orttel agreed the cost is very high and the Council must be careful of how this is perceived. On the other hand, the City has an obligation to keep the equipment that affects the quality of life updated. Councilmember Jacobson also noted that with more development and commercial, there will be a need for updated equipment. He also noted this is only to allow the item to go out for bids. Motion carried unanimously. ASSOCIATION OF METROPOLITAN MUNICIPALITIES / NORTH METRO MAYORS' ASSOCIATION The Council discussed the differences between the two organizations, deliberating on which may best represent the City's issues. Councilmember Orttel stated he is not ready to make a decision, as he would like more information from AMM. It was agreed to table the item. Staff was asked to obtain literature and other information from AMM. Councilmembers were also encouraged to contact the organizations on their own. . _. -- - --- [ ) Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - September 21, 1999 Page 11 CONSIDER PARTICIPATION IN METROPOLITAN LIVABLE COMMUNITIES ACT Mr. Carlberg explained for the year 2000, it is the fifth year the City is being asked to participate in the Metropolitan Livable Communities Act Housing Incentive Program. The Metropolitan Council run program provides for and promotes affordable livable housing. By not participating, the City looses approximately $ I 5 million for maintaining or developing housing, clean up of polluted sites and other local housing programs. To participate, the City must contribute on an annual basis an Affordable and Life-Cycle Housing Opportunities Amount. The total contribution for 1997- I 999 is $32,716.55; however, the City's TIF assistance for the Farmstead project is a qualified contribution, and one year ofTIF assistance exceeds the entire ALHOA amount. The biggest issue is that the City must set affordable and live-cycle housing goals for the City and negotiate those goals with the Metropolitan Council. This program is voluntary, and the City can opt out on a yearly basis. The Council briefly discussed the issue, noting housing of35 percent non-single family or 25 percent rental housing does not fit out here. There was some interest to see what goals could be negotiated. Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, to decide not to join the Livable Communities Act by the calendar year 2000. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-No (McKelvey) vote. APPROVAL OF CLAIMS Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to approve the Claims as presented by Staff. Motion carried unanimously. APPROVE HIRE/PUBLIC WORKS MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR Motion by Knight, Seconded by Orttel, to table item 23 until the issue is resolved. Motion carried unanimously. The Council met in executive session to discuss the grievance procedure of the Street Supervisor, 10:28; reconvened at 11:00 p.m. Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Johnson, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously.The meeting adjourned at II:O I p.m. \ Res~ :edi'~~L ~Ia A. Peach, Recording Secretary ----- -- -~ ---. - -- -~--------