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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC January 20, 1998 CITY of ANDOVER Regular City Council Meeting - Tuesday, January 20,1998 agenda Call to Order -7:00 PM Bookmark Resident Forum Name Agenda Approval Consent Agenda Approval of Minutes minutes Discussion Items 1. Public Hearing/97 -48/Street LightingIRosella's Addition ph9748 2. Public Hearing/96-16/14220 Crosstown Blvd NW ph9616 3. Lot Split/I 7203 Tulip Street NW/Johnson Isjohnson 4. Approve Final Plat/Chesterton Commons 2nd Addition fpchesterton S. Sketch Plan/Langfeld Addition! Section IS splangfeld HRA Meetinl! 6. Appoint HRA Officers officers 7. Public Hearing/1998 CDBG Budget cdbg Staff. Committees. Commissions 8. Consider Spring Town Meeting townmtg 9. Schedule Board of Review review Non-Discussion 10. Reduce Escrows/Developer Improvements/Chesterton Commons escrowee II. Reduce Escrows/Developer Improvements/Crown Pointe escrowcp 12. Reduce Escrows/Developers Improvements/Weybridge 3rd Addition escnvey3 13. Reduce Escrows/Developers Improvements Crown Pointe East 2nd Addition escwcpe2 14. Reduce Escrows/Developers Improvements/Crown Pointe East escnvcpe IS. Reduce Escrows/Developers Improvements/Wittington Ridge escnvitr 16. Reduce EscrowslDeveloper Improvements/Shadowbrook (Phase I) escnvshd 17. Approve Change Order#I(Compensating)/9S-12/Well #6 co9512 18. Approve Final Payment/9S-12/Well #6 fp9512 19. Accept EasementILot 6, Block I, Andover Boundary Commission Plat 1 eascabpl 20. Approve Change Order #1/97-7/Crown Pointe East 2nd Addition co977 21. Receive Oak Wilt Suppression Grant oakwilt 22. Adopt ResolutionlDrivers License Check license 23. Approve Transfer of Funds/Flag Pole Lighting lighting 24. Authorize Advertisement for Engineering Tech IV Position engtechiv 2S. Approve Changes to 1998 Fee Schedule I998fee 26. Approve Change Orders/96-1S/Public Works cos9615 27. Adopt Resolution Setting Rates For Permits, Connection Fees, Etc. Fees Mayor/Council Input Payment of Claims Adjournment . .. .._~~- ..,~., .. .. REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING M1NUTES - JANUARY 20, 1998 TABLE OF CONTENTS RESJDENT FORUM ..................................................... 1 AGENDA APPROVAL. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 2 CONSENT AGENDA Reduce escrows/Development improvements/Chesterton Commons . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 2 Reduce escrows/Development improvements/Crown Pointe . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 2 Reduce escrowslDevelopment improvements/Weybridge 3rd Addition. . . . . . . . . . . .. 2 Reduce escrows/Development improvements/Crown Pointe East 2nd . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 2 Reduce escrows/Development improvements/Crown Pointe East . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 2 Reduce escrows/Development improvements/Wittington Ridge .................. 2 Reduce escrows/Development improvements/Shadowbrook (Phase I) ............. 2 Resolution Rala-98 approving Change Order #1!IP9S-12/Well #6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 2 Resolution ROII-98 approving final payments/IP9S-12/Well #6 ........ . . . . . . . . .. 2 Accept easement/Lot 6, Block I, Andover Boundary Commission Plat 1 ........... 2 Resolution R012-98 approving change order #1/IP97-7/Crown Pointe East 2nd. . . . .. 2 Receive Oak Wilt Suppression grant. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 2 Resolution R013-98 authorizing drivers license checks. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 3 Approve translèr of funds/Flag pole lighting . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 3 Authorize advertisement for Engineering Tech IV position . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 3 Rewlution R014-98 approving changes to 1998 fee schedule. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 3 Resolution RO 15-98 for change order # l/IP96-IS/St. Paul Linoleum & Carpet. . . . . .. 3 Resolution R016-98 for change order #S/IP96-1S/Maertens Brenny Construction .... 3 Resolution RO 17 -98 for change order 113/IP96- J S/ American Structural Metals . . . . . .. 3 Resolution R018-98 for change order #1/IP96-1S/Listul Corporation. .. .......... 3 Resolution RO 19-98 setting rates for permits, connection fees, etc ................ 3 APPRO V AL OF MINUTES ............ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 3 PUBLIC HEARING: IP97-48/STREET LIGHTlNGIROSELLA'SADDITION ........ 3 Resolution R020-98 approving the project ... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 4 PUBLIC HEARING: IP96-16/14220 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD Resolution R021-98 waiving the assessment. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 4 LOT SPLIr/ln03 TULIP STREET NW/JOHNSON (table) ....................... S FINAL PLAT/CHESTERTON COMMONS 2ND ADDITION. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. S Motion to table. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 6 SKETCH PLAN/LANGFELD ADDITION/SECTION IS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 7 CONSJDER SPRING TOWN MEETING J\·lotion to schedule town meeting on March 12 .............................. 8 SCHEDULE BOARD OF REVIEW Motion to schcdule Board of Review on April 30 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 8 MSA ROAD/ANDOVER PUD . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 8 MA YOR/COUNClL INPUT Ponding south of Commercial Boulevard ................................... 9 Snowmobiles ...................................................... 9 Lighting in the Council Chambers. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. 9 PA YMENT OF CLAIMS ....................................... 9 ADJOURNMENT . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ................ 9 --~. ~,-..._-- - "--"---."-'--' ..--... --> - d-. -~q'l' CITY of ANDOVER REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - JANUARY 20, 1998 MINUTES The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Jack McKelvey, January 20, 1998,7:03 p.rn., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Councilmembers present: Mike Knight, John Kunza, Ken Orttel Councilmember absent: Bonnie Dehn Also present: City Attorney, William G. Hawkins City Engineer, Scott Erickson City Planner, John Hinzman CommulÚty Development Director, Dave Carlberg City AdmilÚstrator, Richard Fursman Others RESIDENT FORUM Charlie Veiman 13646 Crooked Lake Boulevard - asked that improvements be made by Staff on answering phones. He was not pleased with his experiences in not being able to contact specific Staff when he calls. He suggested Staff should answer the calls from residents; and if they cannot speak at that time, they should quickly get the information and call the person back as soon as possible. Or they should be able to talk to the secretary of the Department rather than leave a massage on voice mail. Mr. Fursman stated people do their best to take phone calls and to return calls as soon as possible. They tIy to treat all residents equally. Sometimes Staff are in meetings or on a site in the City. In that case, they carry a cellular phone; and that cell phone number is given to residents if requested. A person calling City Hall will get a receptionist unless they dial a person's number directly. He acknowledged, though, that there is always room for improvement. Councilmember Knight suggested a policy be implemented where calls are returned within an hour and that policy be adhered to as much as possible. He recognized that that wìll not always be possible. Mr. Fursman stated they will continue to work to improve that problem Mr Veiman - asked about the Board of Review. Mr. Fursman explained it is an opportulÚty for the residents to discuss next year's property valuation. Residents are informed of the meeting by the county when they receive their property valuation statements. Jerry Windschitl Ashford Development - asked that he be allowed to speak about the problems they are having with the post office under Item 4. For Items 10-15, he asked that the City Attorney give an opinion on the procedure before the Council votes on it. He questioned whether it is proper to tie the reduction in escrows, which are tied to the specific performance on a development contract, .._~.._-.-. ." -...- ,,,. Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - January 20, 1998 Page 2 (Resident Forum, Continued) to a deficiency in the project account. He also asked that another item be added to the agenda to discuss a potential MSA road through the proposed Andover PUD development. That issue was raised by the Planning and Zoning Commission. An MSA road through his development would be devastating, as the intent of his project is to create a peaceful, private environment. Mr. Carlberg explained the Planning Commission has asked Staff to look at several items relating to the Andover PUD and Burr Oak Run to the south of it and then bring those sketch plans to them for further review. One of those items is the possibility of an MSA road through that area. Staff has not yet completed its research. Those sketch plans will come before the Council with recommendations after the Planning Commission has completed its review. The Council agreed to add the item to the agenda. AGl!.jVDA APPROVAL Add an EDA meeting following the Approval of Minutes. Add Item 9a, MSA Roadl Andover PUD. Items 10-16: Mr. Erickson agreed with Mr. Windschitl's comments relating to the reduction of the escrows with the contingency. He suggested the contingencies relating to other expenditures be removed from e;¡ch item. The Council agreed. Motion by Kunz¡~ Second(;d by Orttel, to approve the Agenda as amended. Motion carried on a 4- Yes, I-Absent (Dehn) vote. CONSENT AGENDA ltemlO Reduce Escrows/Development Improvements/Chesterton Commons Item 11 Reduce Escrows/Development Improvements/Crown Pointe Item 12 Reduce Escrows/Development Improvements/Weybridge 3rd Addition Item 13 Reduce Escrows/Development Improvements/Crown Pointe East 2nd Addition Item 14 Reduce Escrows/Development Improvements/Crown Pointe East Item ]5 Reduce Escrows/Development Improvements/Wittington Ridge Item 16 Reduce Escrows/Development Improvements/Shadowbrook (phase I) (For Items 10-] 6 - delete the contingencies relating to other expenditures) Item 17 Approve Change Order #1 (Compensating)/IP95-12/Well #6 (See Resolution ROI0-98) Item 18 Approve Final Payments/IP95-12/Well #6 (See Resolution ROII-98) Item 19 Accept EasementILot 6, Block ], Andover Boundary Commission Plat 1 Item 20 Approve Change Order #l/IP97-7/Crown Pointe East 2nd Addition (See Resolution ROI2-98) - - - ___..___..,_,_~ .. .a. __. Regular Andover City Council MeeTing Alinutes - January 20, 1998 Page 3 (Consent Agenda, COlllinued) Item 21 Receive Oak Wilt Suppression Grant Item 22 Adopt ResolutionlDrivers License Check (See Resolution R013-98) Item 23 Approve Transfer of Funds /Flag Pole Lighting Item 24 Authorize Advertisement for Engineering Tech IV Position Item 25 Approve Changes to 1998 Fee Schedule (See Resolution ROI4-98) Item 26 Approve Change OrderslIP96-15/Public Works (See Resolution R015-98 for Change Order #1 for St. Paul Linoleum & Carpet, Inc.; Resolution R016-98 for Change Order #5 for Maertens Brenny Construction Co.; Resolution R017-98 for Change Order #3 for American Structural Metals; Resolution RO 18-98 for Change Order # 1 for Listul Corporation) Item 27 Adopt Resolution Setting Rates for Permits, Connection Fees, Etc. (See Resolution RO 19-98) Motion by KIDght, Seconded by Kunza, approval. Motion carried on a 4- Yes, I-Absent (Dehn) vote. APPROVAL OF MINUTES January Ii, 1998, Regular MeeTing - Correct as written. .Janu({/J' 6, 1998, EDA MeeTing - Correct as written. lWotion by Orttel, Seconded by Kunza, the January 6 Regular Meeting as written. Motion carried on a 4- Yes, I-Absent (Dehn) vote. Motion by KIDght, Seconded by Orttel, the January 6 EDA meeting as written. Motion carried on a 4- Yes, I-Absent (Dehn) vote. The meeting was recessed to hold an EDA meeting; 7:40; reconvened at 7:50 p.m. PUBLIC HEARING: IP97-48/STREET LIGHTING/ROSELLA'S ADDITION Mayor McKelvey asked for a motion to open the public hearing. Alation by Kunza, Seconded by Knight, to so move. Motion carried on a 4- Yes, I-Absent (Dehn) vote. 7:50 p.m. Pámela Forcier. 14249 Vintage - wondered how many lights are being installed. She is opposed because of her financial situation. She also asked the cost of the lights. The Council pointed out the location of the four lights as shown on a map of the neighborhood. The $10 monthly charge has the cost of the lights built into it. -~-_. ...--- ---..--".-.-.. . ~ .... - Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - January 20, 1998 Page-l (Public Hearing: IP9 7--IS/Street Lighting/Rosella's Addition, Continued) Motion by KlÚght, Seconded by Kunza, to close the public hearing. Motion carried on a 4- Yes, 1- Absent (Dehn) vote. 7:54 p.m. Motion by Knight, Seconded by Kunza, the Resolution as presented. (See Resolution R020-98 ordering the improvement of street lighting Project 97-48 for Rosella's Addition) Motion carried on a 4- Yes, I-Absent (Dehn) vote. PUBLIC HEARING: IP96-16/14220 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW 7:56 p.m. Mr. Erickson explained the sewer and water were installed many years ago but were never assessed. There is a provision in the State Statute that the City can assess property for errors and omissions. The Stair is determining a way to keep track of these parcels where the utility trunks are installed but the adjoining properties are not assessed until they hook up. In this instance, the property was not sho',vn on the books for a potential assessment. Mayor McKelvey opened the hearing for public comment. B>,~d Hermansen 14220 CrosstOll"" Boulevard NW - objected to the assessment. He purchased the parcel in March, 1995, and assumed the cost of the property included the cost of the municipal utility improvements. He is the second owner of the property since the utilities were installed. Nothing was said at closing about a potential assessment. There was a lot split on the property two years ago. He purchased the parcel after the lot split. In discussing the situation, the Council guessed the utilities were installed around 1986 when Kensington Estates was developed. Councilmember Orttel was bothered by the assessment. The original property owner benefited and should have paid the assessment. Mr. Hermanson is not receiving an improvement because the improvements were already in when he purchased the property. He paid for the sewer and water, which was reflected in the market value, when he bought the house. Mr. Erickson felt there may be a number of these similar situations in the City where the assessments were missed. Staff is looking into it now. The proposed assessment is based on the formula with no interest applied. Alation by Kunza, Seconded by Knight, to close the public hearing. Motion carried on a 4- Yes, 1- Absent (Dehn) vote. 8:12 p.m. Motion by Knight, Seconded by Orttel, that in this case the assessment be waived due to extraordinary circumstances that are very unique. (See Resolution R021-98) Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Dehn) vote. .. - . Regular Andol'er City COllllcil Meeting Minlltes - January 20, 1998 Page 5 LOT SPLlT/17203 TULIP STREET NW/JOHNSON Mr. Hinzman requested the item be tabled per the request of the applicant. Tom Johnson 17203 Tulip Street - explained they started this process in ] 992 when they were requesting a variance to access their property on the east. That was denied. This year they drew up a plan, tirst with a 34-foot strip to the north, then with a plan for a cul-de-sac which did meet all ordinance requirements. The Planning Commission was not in favor of the cul-de-sac and asked them to talk to homeowners to the north and south about building a road which conforms to the City standards. They did that. The homeowner to the south was interested at first, but then changed his mind. Over the weekend they looked at their abstract and found what they thought was a driveway to the house is actually a road easement. At this time it is a question as to whether it is a dedicated public or private easement. They are asking the item be tabled to research that question further. Councilmember Orttel stated it appears the City is asking Mr. Johnson to plat the entire area with his ] O-acre parcel. He felt the simplest thing would be to allow Mr. Johnson to split on Tulip and grant ¡¡ variance on wi::th. In his opilÚon there is no difference between a driveway and a cul-de-sac except that the City would have to maintain a cul-de-sac. Maioll by KlÚght, Seconded by Olttel, to table this until the next meeting. Motion carried on a 4- Yes. I-Absent (Dehn) vote. APPROVE FINAL PLA T/G/ESTERTON COMMONS 2ND ADDITION Jeny Windschitl didn't understand what Item 10 of the stipulation (Contingent on Staff review and approval for compliance with City ordinances, policies and guidelines) was referring to. As far as he knows, they have completed everything they have been asked to do. Councilmember Orttel also q¡;estioned the statement, as it appears with this that Staff would have the final approval, not the Council. He thought the Council had asked that this statement be removed from Resolutions approving final plats. Mr. Carlberg explained the reason for the statement is to allow Staff to look at the mylars and ask the developer to make any corrections. Councilmember Knight was concerned with the naming of 155th. It is very difficult and fmstrating when one street has three ditferent names. Mr. Windschit1 and the other Councilmembers agreed. Mr. Erickson explained the police and Fire Department work from a grid system which eliminates potential confusion in finding a specific location. The grid also eliminates the possibility of having two identical intersections in the City. Mr. Windschitl also asked for some help with the post office or the postal tmck terminal. Apparently there is no landscape plan, no building plan, no lighting plan, nor a fencing plan in the City. The City has not co1!ected any fees ITom the post office project nor is anything being inspected. Apparently the federal government has the authority to do this. It is a huge building. As an adjacent property owner, --- -...---- ___"___H'_'_·· . _ .... ReR/¡{ar Andover City Council Meeting J.,fillutes -January 20, 1998 Page 6 (Final Plat 'Chesterton Commons 2nd Addition, Continued) he is trying to dete1TI1Ìne the effect of the project on his property; but it is difficult without knowing what is being planned for landscaping, lighting and fencing. He understands the building will be open 24 hours a day, and there is also a concern with trucks coming in and out at all hours of the night, plus the effect ofthe lights on nearby residential houses. Mr. Carlberg stated Staff is also frustrated. They have requested copies of the plans for the project but have not received them. The Council suggested Staff pursue their efforts to get copies of the plans for the project. They also encouraged Mr. Windschitl to meet with the manager of the post office project to discuss his concerns. Otherwise the City has little authority over the project. Mayor McKelvey understood the building was basically a center for the pick up of mail for the Andover and Ham Lake area. Most of the distribution y,-jll be to the local carriers with one or two large tn¡cks coming in between 2:3 0 and 400 in the morning. Mr. Windschitl took issue y,-jth Item 6 in the Resolution, Receipt of all drainage and utility easements, within and outside of the plat, if necessary as determined by the City, including the easements along I{"nson Boulevard NW. He pointed to a r;¡ap illustrating the effect this has on his property. He didn't think anyone realized the easement would encompass over four acres of land, plus the em,ements along Hanson Boulevard are not being used by him for this plat. He also pointed out that it may not be possible to construct a storm sewer trunk from Hamilton Square to this easement bccause of a huge power pole that is in the way. The Resolution requires him to dedicate the easement without any of his water going to that system. The problem is that because of the post office, he may have to replat a portion of this property to a higher density or commercial. Giving the easement now m"y restrict what he is able to do with another configuration of the property. If that is the case, he doesn't want to dedicate those easements until that property is developed. He did not feel it is appropriate fcr him to dedicate easement for the benefit of Hamilton Square without being paid for it. Mr. Erickson explained this issue was discussed before, and the Council agreed to require the dedication of the easemcnt for the storm sewer system through this area. The area to be dedicated is for ponding plus side slopes. There are two culvert crossings that would be put in to let the water drain through the area. The HarlÚlton Square property will retain all of its storm water, so that water will not be drailÚng onto Mr. Windschitl's property. This will provide an overflow for the Hamilton Square ponds. Councilmember Orttel didn't realize the magnitude of the easement needed, but the Council did ask for the easement at this time. He felt that ifMr. Windschitl needed to replat that area and there would need to be some realignment of the easement, the City may have to vacate some of it. The other Council members generally agreed that they did request the easement be dedicated at this time and that if need be in the future, some adjustments could be made to it. At this time Mr. Windschitl asked that the entire final plat be tabled to the next Council meeting. Motion by Orttel, Seconded by McKelvey, to so move. Motion carried on a 4- Yes, I-Absent (Dehn) vote. -... . --- ..--~_._...-,--- ,- '.' Regular Andover City Council Meeting Minutes - January 20, 1998 Page 7 SKETCH PLAN/LANGFELDADDITION/SECTION 15 Mr. Carlberg reviewed the sketch plan ofLangfeld Addition in Section IS which consists of six single family rural residential lots. A portion of the property is within the MUSA. On January 13 the Planning Commission reviewed the proposal and agreed with the recommendation made in 1994 when the plan was first reviewed that a street access should be provided to the western property line. In 1994l\1r. Langfeld had agreed because he had an agreement with the western property owner to share in the costs. That agreement is no longer in place, and Mr. Langfeld is unwilling to construct that road, though Ordinance 10 does require construction to adjacent property. An option may be to require the road easement dedication but hold money in escrow until the property to the west is developed and the road is needed. Another option would be for Mr. Langfeld to petition for the improvements and assess the property to the west for a portion of the improvement. The Planning Commission felt those are policy issues that the Council must make. Another concern is once a road is constructed to the western property line, the adjacent property owner has the potential of subdividing into two parcels and constructing houses such that the future extension of the street would be prohibited. Councilmember Orttel was very concerned that there is the ability to subdivide off stub streets to prohibit the evemual extension of those streets. He suggested Staff look at an ordinance provision to prevent that type l'fthing from happening in the City. The Council then discussed the question of whether or not a road should be provided to the western property linc. It was determined that if the road were to go straight west, once it is extended to the western parcel the location would be such that it would not be possible to develop lots to the south because of the existing lots pJong CoRd 20. They did not feel an easement situation would be in the City's best interest because it is difficult to maintain, nor would it eliminate the financial question for the developer. To move the proposed road north about 30 feet would resolve the problem on the adjacent property but it would also destroy the buildability of the proposed Lot 2 in this project. There was concern that as proposed there is only one access to the development; but because of the issues, the Council generally a!,,'Teed that a street extension to the west should not be provided at this time. They suggested the development proceed as proposed. It was felt that if sewer and water ever becomes available to this property, the extension of the street and subdivision of the properties would occur at that time. They again asked Staff to look at an ordinance amendment to prohibit the subdivision of parcels off stub streets that would eliminate the ability to extend the stub streets in the future. The Council recessed at this time to hold an HRA meeting, 9:1S; reconvened at 9:20 p.m. ~ --- __.~_ .__ . _ L ~. _ Regular Andover City COllncil Meeting lHinlltes - January 20, 1998 Page 8 CONSiDER SPRING TOWN MEETING The Council agreed to hold a town meeting in March at the City Hall and suggested presentations be given on the following topics: · snowmobiling · an update on police services -- invite a police officer to give a short presentation · growth -- include a report on the number of wells, a map of proposed development projects, and a map of proposed future development areas in the MUSA · MTC transportation · economic development, including a short presentation on the development of the Commercial Park · usage of parks and trail ways, proposed construction of trails, and an update on Kelsey-Round Lake park · have a handout recapping the results of the survey done for the update of the Comprehensive Plan Jl.fotion by Orttel, Seconded by Kunza, that the Council schedule a town meeting on March 12 with the topics as discussed Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Dehn) vote. SCHEDULE BOARD OF REVIEW IVlotion by Ortte!, Seconded by Kunza, to schedule the Board of Review for April 30, 1998. Motion carried on a 4- Yes, I-Absent (Dehn) vote. MSA ROAD/ANDOVER PUD Mayor McKelvey stated the Staff is looking at a possible MSA road that would handle the through traffic between Nightingale and Hanson Boulevard. It would have to go either through the proposed Andover PUD or the proposed Burr Oak Run to the south because the school is to the south of that area and there is wetland to the north. He questioned if this is where a State Aid road should go. Councilmember Orttel argued the MSA road could not continue either east or west. An MSA road would not save time from either crossing further north on CoRd 20 or further south on Crosstown. Mr. Erickson stated they are looking at how much traffic can be expected to cut through between Hanson Boulevard and Nightingale. If it is substantial, an MSA street may be warranted. In his opinion it would be a medium priority State Aid route. Another reason for an MSA street is eventually there may be a signal at the intersection of Hanson Boulevard and the PUD, and this would allow State Aid monies to help fund that signal. JeffY Windschitl Chesterton Partnership - never thought there would be an issue of an MSA road. It would really interfere with his development. He is trying to develop a quiet, private area. --..- -..~,-- .---... --. - Regular Andover City Council Meeting Mil/utes - January 20, 1998 Page 9 (MSA RoadAndover PUD, Continued) Councilmember Orttel agreed from a safety standpoint with a senior development that it is not desirable to direct traffic through it. He agreed the development should be a quiet, secure residential area for empty nesters, and that private area should be preserved as much as possible. A State Aid road doesn't belong there. Mr Windschitl - stated the other issue is the public versus private roads. Mr. Carlberg noted the Planning Commission has looked at these issues and asked for further information from the Staff. Staffhas not yet completed its research and will be bringing these items back to the Commission on January 27. The Council agreed the Commission should complete its review of the sketch plan before they comment on the issues. MA fOR/COUNCIL INPUT Pondilig south ,¡ Commercia! Boulevard - Councilmember Kunza asked if additional storm water "'1\1 be directed to the wetlõ.nds located south of Commercial Boulevard. A gentleman at 2075 135th Lan~ has stated some trees in that area are leaning from the storm this summer, and he wondered if they will be straightened out. ~,Ir. Erickson stated that is a storm water pond and is being utilized now, but no additional land should drain to it in the future. They will look at the drainage in that area. The trees are under a one-year warranty, and those that are leaning will be straightened back up. Snowmobiles - The Council and Staff noted there have been no complaints or problems seen regarding snowmobiles in recent weeks. Mayor McKelvey stated the snowmobile patrol has been saturating the area recently. Lighting in the Council Chambers - The Council discussed the lighting in the Council Chambers, specifically the ghostly effect behind the Council when viewed on cable TV. They felt it is the lighting behind them Mr. Fursman stated he wìll pass that along to the cable company. PAfMENTOFCLAIMS Afotioll by Knight, Seconded by Kunza, the payment of claims as presented. Motion carried on a 4- Yes, I-Absent (Dehn) vote. Motion by Knight, Seconded by Kunza, to adjourn. Motion carried on a 4- Yes, I-Absent (Dehn) vote. The meeting adjourned at 9:53 p.m. \\\~e.ctfUIlY submilied,.. ./ -> L ~ \C1vV-ec\.., Cl ~\ f<...v __. arcella A. Peach, Recordmg Secretary ',. - --._--- -. -,- - - -. ..