HomeMy WebLinkAboutSP March 28, 1996
SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL
MEETING
7:00 P.M.
TUESDAY, MARCH 28, 1996
At Andover City Hall
To discuss the development proposal of
Adolfson and Peterson and the Presbyterian
Homes of Minnesota to develop and
construct a senior housing complex.
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CITY of ANDOVER
1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304. (612) 755-5100
SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING - MARCH 28, 1996
MINUTES
A Special Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by
Mayor Jack McKelvey on March 28, 1996, 7:00 p.m., at Andover City Hall,
1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota, to discuss the proposed
senior citizen campus on Bunker Lake Boulevard with neighborhood
residents.
Councilmembers present: Dehn, Kunza
Councilmembers absent: Jacobson, Knight
Also present: City Building Official, Dave Almgren
City Planning Director, Dave Carlberg
City Engineer, Scott Erickson
Others interested in the project
The following represented the project:
Wilt Berger and Kent Simon, Architectural firm of Miller Hanson
Westerbect Berger, Inc.
Scott Weicht and Jim Adolfson of Adolfson and Peterson, Inc., and
also representing the owners of the property.
Dan Lindh, presbyterian Homes of Minnesota, proposed caretakers
of the campus.
Mr. Berger and Mr. Simon gave a presentation on the proposed project to
construct a senior citizen campus on the Adolfson property in the
vicinity of the Round Barn on Bunker Lake Boulevard. The project would
retain the Round Barn, provide 18 one-story cottages off Marigold
Street, a 54-unit assisted living complex and a 90-unit congregate care
unit. The overall theme of the campus would be an agricultural one.
Parking for the higher-density units will be underground off Quay
Street. As many trees as possible will be retained on the site, but
landscaping would be done to enhance the visibility of the project. The
Round Barn will still be the tallest structure, even if the one building
of four stories is constructed.
Mr. Lindh stated they have quite a few similar campuses, and he is not
aware of any negative impact on neighboring house values. He thought
resídents would find their facility will enhance the area, as most
studies have shown normal housing prices around their facilities have
increased consistent with the rest of the market. Typically the people
in the congregate care units would be 85 to 87 years old, only one
person per unit, and about one in ten people would have a car. The
average age of those in the assisted living units is 78 to 80 years old
and average of 1.2 people per unit, that is about 20 percent are
couples. Those living in the cottages average 70 to 75 years old and
have 1 1/4 cars per unit on the average. Typically ambulances do not
come into the facility more than once a month on average. They can also
provide the numbers and shifts for staffing and the number of deliveries
and times. They are willing to put a covenant that the complex will
remain only for senior adults. The complex is designed specifically for
seniors, and it would be difficult to convert it to other uses.
Special City Council Meeting
Minutes - March 28, 1996
Page 2
Mr. Lindh compared this proposal with their complex in Roseville.
Typically about half of the people in the complex will come from the
community. Another 20 to 25 percent will be parents or grandparents of
children in the community, and the remaining will be from outside the
City. They have an established marketing plan for a five- or six- mile
radius which is done before ground is even broken for the project.
Mr. weicht stated this is absolutely a preliminary idea. The family has
watched the community grow and develop. They felt there is a need for
this type of facility, and this is what the family would like to see
done with the property. Currently the proposal is that all units would
be rentals under the management of Presbyterian Homes, but they would
look at other options. They have not yet decided how to handle the
covenant on the five lots that have been designated as single family
homes. They have no agreement or covenant that they are bound to on the
remaining property. The Round Barn is not on the National Historical
Register, but the family does want to keep it there. The location of the
buildings has been to get maximum exposure to the sun. They are looking
at the livability factors. They would try to balance the traffic so the
impact is not too great along Marigold.
Mr. Weicht also explained the thoughts of the family that brought about
this proposal. People in the family are getting older, and they have an
interest in doing something for the community that would be beneficial.
Money was not the primary factor, as they could get the same amount of
cash from single family residential units.
Residents raised many concerns. They asked that a traffic analysis on
Marigold be done now. That area is already too congested, and this will
only add to it. Not only the resident traffic, but visitor and staff
traffic and parking needs to be considered. Has a study been done on
the impact of institutional-type buildings at the gateway to a city?
The general feeling of the residents was that such a complex will lower
their property values. Residents obj ected to the idea of rental
property next to their single family homes, feeling ownership would be
more acceptable. Obj ections were also raised on the removal of the
covenant for single family homes on the five lots along 138th Avenue.
Another objection by residents was the proposed three- or four-story
buildings, as residents did not want to view that from their homes.
Some stated Woodland Development has one of the toughest covenants in
Andover, and that is one reason they moved here. However, some were
told the Round Barn is on the National Historical Record and that the
area in question will ultimately be developed as residential homes.
Others had anticipated that area would not be developed at all and liked
the view as is when they drive into their development. They did not
expect the area to become multiple dwelling units. One asked why bring
the elderly into a relatively young community, suggesting the property
be used for a community center that the entire family can enjoy.
One resident asked how the high density would impact the City's sewer
and water system, complaining they do not have adequate water facilities
now to be able to water their lawns in the summer. Mr. Erickson
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Minutes - March 28, 1996
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explained the City is looking at the water system and will be bringing
more wells and storage facilities on line. Another resident didn't want
this development to have a negative impact on the frontage road to the
south of Bunker Lake Boulevard when that street is upgraded. Mr. Weicht
stated provisions have been made for the easement that will be needed by
the county along Bunker Lake Boulevard.
A resident thought this was being proposed by the City to meet the
requirements of the Metropolitan Council on low- to moderate-income
housing. Mr. Carlberg stated no, that this is a proposal by the
property owners. Affordable housing was discussed and senior citizen
housing could be considered as affordable housing. Mr. Lindh stated
typically they like to see 40 percent of the project in the affordable
range according to HUD's calculations.
Residents were concerned with the high density and high buildings. Some
felt two-story buildings would be more acceptable, though increased
traffic in that vicinity remained an issue. It is congested already,
and they want to make sure that vehicles can get in and out and
emergency vehicles can respond in an appropriate response time. Many
suggested the area develop only as single family residential lots. They
acknowledged Andover does need a senior citizen center, but felt it
should be considered elsewhere, not abutting an expensive residential
neighborhood. One other concern was the damage that may be done to
residential homes during the construction project. That person did not
want to live in the neighborhood any more if this project is done. Mr.
Weicht stated their construction experts would be sure that existing
homes are not affected.
Councilmember Dehn noted the many changes that have occurred in that
vicinity since 1950. Now the proposal is for 3 1/2-story buildings on
one side of single family homes. The Adolfson's have the right to sell
their property just as others do. However, she was concerned with the
height of the buildings. She would also want a covenant that would
signify no low-income housing in the area, which is a concern of the
neighborhood. Also, whatever is done with the property, the open spaces
are important to the City of Andover.
There was some discussion on the notification process, with residents
accusing City Staff of wanting the project and not notifying all
residents as directed. Mr. Carlberg explained those residents within
350 feet were notified. Past experience has been that the word gets
passed on to other interested residents. This is just an informational
hearing. If the project proceeds, the normal public hearing process
will be followed.
Mayor McKelvey noted the Council did ask Staff to notify the entire
neighborhood of this meeting. He explained the Council has talked about
senior citizen housing because there is a need. He personally would
prefer to see this in another location in the City. One suggestion has
been to establish a small retail center and clinic and a senior complex
near the City Hall. He felt this is a nice complex and he'd would like
to see it built, but in a different location.
Special City Council Meeting
Minutes - March 28, 1996
Page 4
Mr. Weicht stated they will consider the comments and suggestions.
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Kunza, to adjourn. Motion carried on a 3-
Yes, 2-Absent (Jacobson, Knight) vote.
The meeting adjourned at 8:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Peach
Recording Secretary