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CITY of ANDOVER
1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW. . ANDOVER. MINNESOTA 55304. (612) 755-5100
Special City Council Meeting - Wednesday, June 5,1996
Call to Order - 7:00 pm
1. Meeting with Developers
a. Transportation Fees
b. Wetland Buffer
c. Sequencing of Developments
2. City Hall Workshop
Adíournment
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CITY of ANDOVER
1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304. (612) 755-5100
SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING - JUNE 5, 1996
MINUTES
A Special Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by
Mayor Jack McKelvey on June 5, 1996, 7:10 p.m., at Andover City Hall,
1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmembers present: Jacobson, Knight, Kunza
Councilmember absent: Dehn
Also present: City Building Official, Dave Almgren
City Planning, Jeff Johnson
City Engineer, Scott Erickson
City Planning Director, Dave Carlberg
City Administrator, Richard Fursman
Others
MEET WITH DEVELOPERS - TRANSPORTATION FEES
Mr. Fursman stated in view of the appellate court decision on the City
of Eagan's implementation of a transportation fee, he'd recommenà that
the Council drop any further consideration of a transportation fee until
such time as the issue works its way through the courts. Mr. Almgren
stated Staff feels the City should continue to charge the trail fee that
was recently implemented; however it should be held in escrow until the
issue is settled in the courts.
After further discussion on the reason for transportation fees, their
pros and cons, and noting the fact that the City has instituted several
development fees over the past few years, the Council agreed to table
any further discussion on transportation fees. They also wanted to
obtain further information on such fees. In addition, the Council
agreed to continue collecting the trail fees, which are to be placed in
escrow.
MEET WITH DEVELOPERS - WETLAND BUFFER
Mr. Johnson explained the proposed wetland buffer ordinance was the
result of the City Council's meeting on externalities and the desire to
protect the wetlands. In researching what other communities do, Staff
found that most rely on the Wetlands Conservation Act to enforce this
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Special Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - June 5, 1996
Page 2
(Meet with Developers - Wetland Buffer, Continued)
issue. Issues relating to the ordinance are the taking of property
without just compensation, there is mowing of the entire buffer strip on
some properties, and the question of possibly protecting only those
wetlands that are of high quality.
Those developers who addressed the Council expressed their desire to
protect the wetlands but felt the ordinance proposed is unenforceable;
that the government does not have the right to take property without
compensation; that the enforcement of the ordinance would be a
considerable economic burden to the City; that the tools are already in
place to protect the wetlands and another level of government and rules
are not needed; that there is a liability issue on the part of the City,
especially on the requirement of monuments; that the proposal is
stricter than those of the DNR by not allowing those things such as
mowing, removing of trees, etc. I which are allowed by the DNR on the
wetland itself; and that the ordinance would have a negative impact on
the City itself when constructing its trail system. It was suggested a
possible solution would be to administer the regulations of the ne-¡l
wetlands legislation that has just been passed by the State legislature
which has a built-in incentive on mitigating the buffer zones. Also,
the PUD ordinance can be used as a tool to protect wetlands. It was
also pointed out that what is high quality wetland now will, over time,
change as sedimentation fills the area to the point where noxious weeds
become a problem.
Councilmember Jacobson agreed with the developers that on a practical
basis, the ordinance is unenforceable once the developer is done with a
plat. He would like to see the buffer area protected during the
construction phase of the plat and the construction of houses on the
lots until the landscaping is completed. That could be done through this
ordinance. Mayor McKelvey also agreed, believing the government should
not add any more restrictions to the property owners. Councilmember
Knight also had a problem with the proposed ordinance because it is
unenforceable.
Discussion continued on methods that could be used to protect the buffer
area around wetlands during construction. It was suggested this coulã
be done by moving the silt fence out further. The delineation of the
silt fence locations could be placed on the grading plans. Staff noted
there have been few problems with silt fences in recent years as
everyone has become more educated on the issue, plus the City will red
tag a project if there is a problem until it is corrected.
Special Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - June 5, 1996
Page 3
(Meet with Developers - Wetland Buffer, Continued)
Staff was directed to review the proposed ordinance based on tonight's
discussion and to apply the protection of wetland buffer areas during
construction until the landscaping is completed.
MEET WITH DEVELOPERS - SEQUENCING OF DEVELOPMENTS
Mr. Erickson suggested a program be implemented for the development of
plats so they are completed by October 1 of each year. Since the 429
procedure takes four to five months to complete, that means the
preliminary plat should be approved by January 1 of that year.
The developers generally agreed with the proposal, stating now that the
MUSA is in place, they will be able to plan ahead. There was some
concern that the smaller plats take less time to construct. The
suggestion was that the sequencing be flexible, based on the number of
lots in the proposed plat. For example, plats of 1 to 20 lots would
have a February 1 target date for preliminary plat approval with January
1 the date for the larger plats.
Mr. Erickson stated Staff will come back to the Council with a program
for plats to be approved by January 1 of each year with a threshold for
the smaller plats.
The Council recessed at 8:20; reconvened at 8:30 p.m.
CITY HALL WORKSHOP
Craig Cronholm and Mark Pearce, Adolfson and Peterson, and K. C. Lim of
LHB Engineers and Architects addressed the Council on a proposed layout
of the new City Hall. The footprint encompassed 12,000 square feet in
the new building and will be located adjacent to the existing building.
Tonight they are asking for approval of the footprint. They will then
come back to the Council at the June 18 meeting for approval of the
final layout with the interior walls delineated. Estimated costs to
remodel the existing building will also be available then. The
construction documents will be ready for approval by the end of July_
They are extremely tight on the budget and asked for suggestions from
the Council and Staff on items to be bid as alternates. The following
suggestions or comments were made:
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Minutes - June 5, 1996
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(City Hall Workshop, Continued)
· Bid a closed loop system on the mechanical as an alternate. While
it is more expensive, it will be much cheaper on the life cycle cost.
· By increasing the space to 12,000 square feet, it is cheaper tJ
construct the restrooms in the new building than to remodel the
existing facilities.
· The cost of remodeling the existing building will vary depending on
what is done with it and whether the roof will be patchp.d or
replaced. A sprinkling system will be needed to eliminate code
violations.
· A divider in the Council chambers can be bid as an alternate.
· Since corridors consume a lot of space, careful consideration should
be given to the placement of walls. The building should be designed
for low maintenance with a minimum of corridors.
· Bid an alternate to brick at least the east side of the existing
building to match the new building.
· It is anticipated the Cable TV company will install the necessary
equipment in the Council chambers to televise meetings.
· The preference was for vertical windows.
· Mr. Cronholm stated they have not had any problems with flat roofs
if they are constructed correctly. Some Councilmembers and Statf had
reservations with a flat roof. Mr. Cronholm stated a low pitch can
be placed on the roof, plus many roof suppliers have warranties.
· The landscaping and upgrading of the parking lot will be in Phase 2
of the project, with anticipated funding coming from the TIF fund.
Council asked that they be provided with all costs of the project,
the new building, remodeling the existing building, landscaping and
parking.
· The public places should be of ceramic or quarry tile. All offices
and corridors should be carpeted. There should be a way to close off
the offices from the public portion of the building. A security
system is needed in the new building, though cameras are no':
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Minutes - June 5, 1996
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(City Hall Workshop, Continued)
necessary. Provisions should be made under the flooring for cable
TV and computers. Be sure enough electrical outlets are installed,
including along the Council bench. The same is true of phone ports,
including a public telephone in the lobby. A card reader key system
should be considered as opposed to keys to enter the building.
provision should be made for residents to hang coats in the winter.
Consideration must also be given for the need for an emergency
shelter when designing the building.
The Council gave verbal approval of the footprint provided this evening.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Kunza, to adjourn. Motion cê.rried
unanimously.
The meeting adjourned at 9:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Recording Secretary