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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSP December 30, 1996 CITY of ANDOVER 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW. . ANDOVER. MINNESOTA 55304. (612) 755-5100 Special City Council Meeting December 30,1996 7:00 PM Call to Order 1. Woodland Estates Rezoning 2. Woodland Estates Preliminary Plat 3. Woodland Estates Special Use Permit/Area I.D. Sign 4. Other Business 5. Adjournment -. CITY of ANDOVER SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING - DECEMBER 30, 1996 MINUTES A Special Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Jack McKelvey at 7:00 pm, Monday, December 30, 1996 at the Oak View Middle School, 15400 Hanson Boulevard NW, Andover, MN. Councilmembers Present: Dehn, Jacobson, Knight (arrived at 7:10 pm) Councilmembers Absent: Kunza Also Present: Todd Haas, Assistant City Engineer; David Carlberg, Community Deyelopment Director Approval of 1997 License Renewals Motion by Dehn, seconded by McKelvey to approve the following license renewals for 1997: Cigarette Licenses - Festival Foods, Andover Spur; On-Sale Non-Intoxicating Liquor License- Woodland Creek Golf Course. Motion carried on a 2 yes, 1 no (Jacobson) vote. Because a quorum is required for a rezoning, Council began discussion on the Woodland Estates Preliminary plat until Councilmember Knight arrived. Woodland Estates Preliminary Plat Councilmember Jacobson questioned several items on the plat, including the 5treets going out of the plat that dead end do not indicate that they are temporary, and the strip of land on the north end of the plat. Mr. Haas explained that Uplander Street will be a temporary cul-de-sac and the three others that end at the property line will not require a temporary cul-de-sac because they are less than 210 feet in length. The 66 foot wide strip of land at the top of the plat belongs to another property owner and is not a part of the plat. Councilmember Jacobson expressed concern regarding the overflow of storm water. Mr. Haas noted that the north pond goes to the south and the south pond goes south and westerly to the wetland. There is another pond that goes to the south and west. Lary Carlson, Woodland Development, 5tated that the system has been overengineered to control a 100 year flood. If there is a 200 year flood then there would be some overflow. He also noted that they have received a permit from the Coon Creek Watershed Board. Mr. Haas explained that the only issue is the volume of water from the pre-deyelopment stage to post-development stage going south into Mr. Eveland's property has increased. If there was a direct passage from this plat to the creek, it meets the intent of the Water Resource Management Plan. Mr. Eveland has indicated that there was some blockage downstream from the development. Mr. Haa5 stated that if this is the case, then the additional volume of water will most likely create a more wet situation which is a concern -.. --. - .. .. Special City Council Meeting - Minutes December 30, 1996 Page 2 with the engineering staff. Mr. Carlson noted that they have created 3 or 4 ponds that hold a 100 year flood and there will be lees water going onto the neighbor's property than there is at present. Winslow Holasek, 1159 Andover Boulevard stated that the Watershed Board was concerned with the volume of water being increased. Mr. Carl50n explained that they were asked to go back .-md check it again and they decided the system contained the 100 year flood requirements. Council member Jacobson asked who the owner of the property is where 150th Lane bends and doesn't touch Nightingale Street. Mayor McKelvey stated that the city owns the property. Mr. Jacobson felt that if the city owns the property we must have a way to deed back a piece for roadway purposes. He also asked if the proposed well 5ite is in the right-of- way. Mr. Haas explained that Lot 14, Block 10 is the potential well site and that the city will need to consider whether to purchase that parcel from the developer. He also noted that the developer, a5 part of the development, would put in bikeways and walkways. Di5cussion centered on the possibility of speeding on149th and 150th. Mr. Carlson 5tated that Byron Westlund and others had addressed that issue hov"ever, a solution was not brought up. He understood that speed bumps are not an option and that center islands were rejected by the Public Works Department. Councilmember Knight felt that safety is a greater issue than the concern of the Public Works Department. Councilmember Jacobson asked how serious we are about putting a bikeway in the plat. Mr. Carlberg felt that it would be a 5afer crossing to get to Sunshine Park and the school and that crossing signals would be a good idea. The possibility of putting a tunnel under Crosstown Boulevard to get to the park and school was discussed. Mayor McKelvey felt that when the sewer is brought u1' to Nightingale Street putting in a tunnel at that time would be feasible. Mr. Haas explained that the sewer will be augered under the road. Council member Knight a5ked if the county is going to straighten out Crosstown Boulevard. Mr. Haas noted that they are not intere5ted in realigning the road; but the county would consider flattening the curve on Crosstown. In the future if the city put in the MSA street then they would do Crosstown at that time. Crosstown was overlaid several years ago and if the reconstruct it, it will most likely be 8-10 years from now. Regarding the development contract, Councilmember Jacobson felt that we should have a two year option to purcha5e the lot proposed for the well. He also questioned item #2 on the resolution regarding the variance for the separation between Nightingale Street and the proposed 150th Lane. Mr. Carlberg noted that the variance is required until Crosstown Boulevard is realigned. Mr. Jacobson also asked why we would want to escrow funds to relocate a private driveway. Mr. Carlberg explained that the Planning and Zoning Commission wanted to make sure the driveway goes in. -~ -~_. - - Special City Council Meeting - Minutes December 30, 1996 Page 3 At this time, Council began discussion on the rezoning for the plat known as Woodland Estates. Woodland Estates Rezoning Mayor McKelvey explained that the request is to rezone the property known as Woodland Estates from R-1 to R-4. MOTION by Jacobson, seconded by Knight to adopt the ordinance rezoning the property proposed as Woodland Estates. (See Resolution R296-96). Motion carried unanimously. Woodland Estates Prelim.inary Plat, Cont. Lary Carlson noted that they would prefer to pay for bike trails rather than sidewalks. COU!1CilmembE'l" DEhn asked Mr. Carlson if they would also pay f0r widening the streets. Mr. Carlson responded that he didn't think they would pay for widening alI of the streets. Councilmember Jacobson stated that he would like to see the sidewalks put in and the city should pay hr 149th be widened. The ordinance says that we can require sidewalks be insta1! ed. After considerable discussion it was suggested that the streets that would be widened to alIow for a bike lane would be the following: 1) 150th Avem:.e NW between the west property line and Osage Street; 2) Osage Street between 150th Avenue and 149th Avenue; 3) Uplander Street between 150th Avenue and 149th Avenue; 4) 149th Avenue between Uplander Street ami Crosstown Boulevard. The City Council did not determine if Raven Street would have sidewalks or bike lanes. The proposed bike lane routes were recommended by Mr. Haas to post "No Parking" on both sides of the streets as recommended by AASHTO. The Council did suggest that the developer would pay for the additional widening of one of the routes and the city would be responsible to pay for the additional widening of the other routes. The sidewalks and trail locations wiII be determined at a later date. MOTION by Jacobson, seconded by Knight to adopt the resolution approving the preliminary plat of Woodland Estates with the following changes: Item 1: Delete "the developer is requesting" and the entire last sentence. Item 2: Delete "The developer is requesting". Item 4: Delete "The developer is requesting". Item 7: Delete the entire sentence. Item 9: Add, "at a later date". (See Resolution 297-96) Motion carried unanimously. "_0- ~ Special City Council Meeting - Minutes December 30,1996 Page 4 Don Eveland a5ked who would be responsible if his property floods in the future. Mayor McKelvey guaranteed that the city would be responsible. Mr. Eveland asked for assurance that he was not going to be the one with the problem. Mr. Haas stated that the engineering department is concerned also. He explained that during the pre-development stage you have a flow rate of 50 cubic feet per second. The post-development flow rate ends up being 11.7 cubic feet per second. Mr. Eveland has no problem now but if there is a blockage, that would be a concern. The flow rates are slower but the volume has increased. In a 100 year storm it would get more wet and then the city would be responsible. iYinslow Holasek asked whose engineer they would go after. Mr. H,us noted that the developer should look at obtaining an easement from Mr. Eveland that will be dedicated to the city. If we don't, we may be liable for anytlùng that goes onto lùs property. Woodland Estates Special Use Permit/Area I.D. Sign _MOTION by Jacobson, seconded by Dehn to move the resolution approving a Special Use P2rmit for Woodland Development to erect an area identification sign on Lot 1, Block 10, iVoodland Estates with th2 condition that if there is not sufficient space because of right-of- way improvements, staff has the authority to change the location. (See Resolution 298-%). Motion canied unanimously. Other Business Councilmember Dehn asked Mr. Haas if he had any snowmobile complaints during the previous week. Mt. Haas explained that he had quite a few. The deputies are ticketing people rather then warning them. Mr. Haas will see if a saturation can be set up. Mr. Fursman emphasized to Clùef Deputy Pete Beberg that the officers working Andover must be informed of the regulations. MOTION by Jacobson, seconded by Dehn to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 8:55 pm. Respectfully submitted, L¿· ¿!vl¿ Vicki Volk Acting Recording Secretary - ----" -- ---- .-