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Regular City Council Meeting - May 21, 1996
agenda
BOOKMARK
NAME
Call to Order - 7:00 pm
Resident Forum
Agenda Approval
Consent Agenda
Approval of Minutes minutes
Discussion Items
I. Public Hearing/Vacation of Easement/Outlot C, Crown Pointe East vacation
2. Accept Easement/Outlot C, Crown Pointe East outlotc
3. Lower Rum River WMO Plan Update Irrwmo
4. Receive 1995 Audit, Financial Report & Management Letter audit
5. Receive Bids/Award Sale/1996 Crossover Refunding Bonds crossover
6. Receive Bids/Award Sale/1996 GO Tax Increment Bonds gotax
7. Receive Bids/Award Sale/1996 Improvement Bonds improvement
8. PUD Ordinance - Density/Phasing pud
9. Timber River Estates Sketch Plan tim berriv
10. Nightingale Preserve Sketch Plan nightpro
11. Public Works Building pwbuilding
12. Schedule Tour of Public Works Building tour
13. City Hall Discussion cityhall
14. Garbage Hauler Ordinance garbage
15. Purchase of Tax Forfeit Parcel taxforfeit
16. Award Bids for New Fire Truck truck
17. Amendment to Ordinance # 69/0pen Burning Ordinance burning
EDA Meeting
18. Transfer of Funds funds
19. Designate Additional Depository depository
20. Purchase Liesinger Property liesinger
Reports of Staff. Committees. Commissions
21. Mowing Services mowing
Non-Discussion Items
22. Designate Additional Depository deposit
23. Release Cash Escrow/Pheasant Meadows escrow
24. Release Letter of CreditlPheasant Meadows/#92-1 0 credit
25. Met Council Update metcouncil
26. Approve Resolution/Mining Penn it/Jim Greenl2855 - 161st Avenue NW mining
27. Approve No Parking/95-14/Crooked Lake Boulevard nopark
28. Approve Septic Dumping Fee septic
29. Approve Final Payment/City Hall Park Complex #2/Fencing/93-7 fence
30. Approve Proposals/Concessions/City Hall Park Complex #2 concess
31. Approve Quotes/Concession Freezer - Ice Maker/City Hall Park Complex #2 freezer
32. Authorize Consulting Finn/South Andover Site mfra
33. ShadowbrookfSite Grading shadowbr
Ma)"or-Council Input
Pa,·ment of Claims
Adjournmcnt
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REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES - MAY 21, 1996
TABLE OF CONTENTS
AGENDA APPROVAL . . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
CONSENT AGENDA
Resolution RI01-96 designating additional depository · · · · 1
Release cash escrow/Pheasant Meadows · · · · · · · 1
Release Letter of Credit/Pheasant Meadows/IP92-10 · · · · 1
Metropolitan Council update · · · · · · · · · · · 1
Resolution RI02-96 extending mining permit/2855 161st Avenue 1
Resolution RI03-96 approving septic dumping fee · · · · · · 1
Resolution RI04-96 approving final payment/Fencing/IP93-7 · · 1
Resolution RI05-96 authorizing consulting firm/South Andover 1
Shadowbrook/site grading · . · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
Announcement on closing of Bunker Lake Boulevard · · · · 1
APPROVAL OF MINUTES · · · . · · · · · · · · · · 2
PUBLIC HEARING: VACATION OF EASEMENT & ACCEPTANCE OF EASEMENT/
OUTLOT C, CROWN POINTE EAST
Resolution RI06-96 vacating easement · · · · · · · · · 2
Motion accepting new easement · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
LOWER RUM RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT ORGANIZATION PLAN UPDATE · 2
1995 AUDIT/FINANCIAL REPORT AND MANAGEMENT LETTER
Motion to receive audit, financial report and management letter3
RECEIVES BIDS/AWARD SALE: 1996 CROSSOVER REFUNDING BONDS, GO TAX
INCREMENT BONDS AND IMPROVEMENT BONDS · · · · · · · · 3
Resolution RI07-96 awarding sale of $1,220,000 GO Crossover
Refunding Bonds to FBS Investment Services · · · · · · · 4
Resolution RI08-96 awarding sale of $2,055,000 GO Tax Increment
Bonds to Piper Jaffray, Inc. · · · · · · · · · · · · · 4
Resolution RI09-96 awarding sale of $600,000 GO Improvement
Bonds to FBS Investment Services, Inc. · · · · · · · 4
PUD ORDINANCE - DENSITY/PHASING · · · · · · · · · · · 4
TIMBER RIVER ESTATES SKETCH PLAN · · · · · · · · · · · · · 6
NIGHTINGALE PRESERVE SKETCH PLAN · · · · · · · · · · · · · 8
CITY HALL DISCUSSION (set special meeting for June 5, 7 p.m.) · · 9
PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING/SCHEDULE TOUR (Wed. , May 29, 6 :30 p.m.) · · 10
MOWING SERVICES
Motion to accept bid from Well Groomed Lawns, Inc. · · · · 11
GARBAGE HAULER ORDINANCE · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 12
PURCHASE OF TAX FORFEIT PARCEL
Motion to purchase parcel 29 32 24 42 0055 · · · · · · · · 12
AWARD BIDS FOR NEW FIRE TRUCK
Motion to accept low bid of Pierce Mfg/$289,930 for Engine 6 12
AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE NO. 69/0PEN BURNING ORDINANCE
Motion to approve . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 13
NO PARKING/IP95-14/CROOKED LAKE BOULEVARD · · · · · · · · 13
Resolution RII0-96 approving the no parking · · · · · · · 14
PROPOSALS/CONCESSIONS/CITY HALL PARK COMPLEX #2
Motion to approve agreement with C & H Enterprises · · · · · 14
QUOTES/CONCESSION FREEZER & ICE MAKER/CITY HALL PARK COMPLEX #2
Motion to accept low bid on each item · · · · · · · · · 14
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
Parking in cul-de-sac on 139th Avenue · · · · · · · · 14
Grading of Shadowbrook plat . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 14
Traffic signal at Hanson and Crosstown Boulevards · · · · · · 15
Telephone service in plats · · · · · · · · · 15
Presentation by Metropolitan Council Staff (June 4) · · · 15
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS . . . · · . · · · · · · · · · · · · 15
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REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - MAY 21, 1996
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to
order by Mayor Jack McKelvey on May 21, 1996, 7:05 p.m., at the Andover
City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmembers present: Dehn, Jacobson, Knight
Councilmember absent: Kunza
Also present: City Attorney, William G. Hawkins
Fire Chief Dan Winkel
Public Works Superintendent, Frank Stone
Assistant City Engineer, Todd Haas
City Engineer, Scott Erickson
City Planning Director, Dave Carlberg
City Administrator, Richard Fursman
Others
AGENDA APPROVAL
Add 20a, Award Bids on Various Buildings; Add 34, Announcement on
Closing of Bunker Lake Boulevard. Pull from Consent Agenda for
Discussion: Item 27, Approve No Parking/IP95-14/Crooked Lake Boulevard;
Item 30, Approve Proposals/Concessions/City Hall Park Complex #2; and
Item 31, Approve Quotes/Concession Freezer-Ice Maker/City Hall Park
Complex #2.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, to approve as amended. Motion
carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
CONSENT AGENDA /
Item 22 Designate Additional Depository (See Resolution RI0l-
96)
Item 23 Release Cash Escrow/Pheasant Meadows
Item 24 Release Letter of Credit/Pheasant Meadows/IP92-10
Item 25 Metropolitan Council Update
Item 26 Approve Resolution/Mining Permit/Jim Green/2855 l£lst
Avenue NW (See Resolution RI02-96)
Item 28 Approve Septic Dumping Fee (See Resolution RI03-96)
Item 29 Approve Final Payment/City Hall Park Complex
#2/Fencing/IP93-7 (See Resolution RI04-96)
Item 32 Authorize Consulting Firm/South Andover Site (See
Resolution RI05-96)
Item 33 Shadowbrook/Site Grading
Item 34 Announcement on Closing of Bunker Lake Boulevard
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, to approve. Motion carried on a 4-
Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
Regular Andover Ci ty Council Meeting
Minutes - May 21, 1996
Page 2
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
April 30, 1996, Special Meeting: Correct as written.
May 7, 1996, Regular Meeting: Page 9, Motion on Shadowbrook Preliminary
Plat, 5th line, delete the word "basically".
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Jacobson, approval of both Minutes as
amended. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
PUBLIC HEARING: VACATION OF EASEMENT/OUTLOT C, CROWN POINTE EAST and
ACCEPT EASEMENT/OUTLOT C, CROWN POINTE EAST
7:11 p.m. Mayor McKelvey opened the public hearing to vacate a
drainage, utility and street easement for Outlot C, Crown pointe East.
The second item on the agenda is to accept new easements for Outlot C
There was no public testimony.
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Jacobson, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote. 7:11 p.m.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to accept the vacation as
presented in Agenda Item No. 1 and accept the easement as presented in
Item No.2. (See Resolution RI06-96 vacating the drainage, utility and
street easement for Outlot C, Crown Pointe East) Motion carried on a 4-
Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
LOWER RUM RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT ORGANIZATION PLAN UPDATE
Mr. Haas, the City's representative for the Lower Rum River Watershed
Management Organization, explained their current plan was completed in
1991. Because the plan must be updated every five years, the Watershed
has hired SEH as a consultant to update that plan. He then gave a brief /
overview of the organization, its purpose and the district itself.
Mark Labermeir, SEH, project engineer for updating the Watershed's plan,
addressed the Council on the scope of the plan, its goals, an assessment
of problems, and its implementation and review. The implementation of
the plan over a 10-year period is estimated to cost $1.3 million. The
improvements will be the responsibility of each community, not the
organization itself. The primary sources of funding for the organization
are from the General Fund of each community, the permitting fees and
grant funding which was used to pay for this plan. He asked for the
City's approval to forward the plan to the state agencies. It is
anticipated it will take about one year for the state agencies to review
the plan, so it will not be adopted until July, 1997.
Mr. Labermeir explained the reason the budget reflects so much from the
City of Anoka is because the dam is in their City and they have been
paying for the entire cost of upkeep. The suggestion has been that the
cost of the dam be spread among all cities in the Watershed. A very
small portion of the costs are administrative because most members are
City Staff.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - May 21, 1996
Page 3
(Lower Rum River WMO Plan Update, Continued)
Councilmember Jacobson did not feel prepared to approve the plan, áS the
Council has not had an opportunity to review it. Mr. Labermeir stated
he would like approval to forward the plan to the state agencies.
Councilmember Dehn noted the plan talks about business and residential
areas, but nothing about agricultural lands. Mr. Labermeir stated if it
has been excluded, it was done so in error. The Council had no further
comment on the plan and generally agreed it should be forwarded to the
state agencies.
RECEIVE 1995 AUDIT, FINANCIAL REPORT AND MANAGEMENT LETTER
Bill Lauer, Malloy Karnowski Radosevich and Company, P.A., reviewed the
Management Letter and highlighted the Financial Report of the City's
audit for 1995. He noted the financial statements are clean with the
exception that the general fixed assets are not audited. He understand>
the Financial Department will be creating the records necessary for that
audit. Also, there is adequate cash in the fund balance to provide the
needed cash flow until the revenues are received in July. The City is
receiving less revenues from state and federal sources and is having to
rely more on taxes and fees generated from services. The expenditures
for 1995 came in significantly less than revenues. Mr. Lauer also
summarized the accounting comments regarding the City's finances.
Councilmember Jacobson was concerned with a comment on legislative
activities affecting TIF districts. He asked if the City would lose its
TIF status if it didn't show the required job growth within two years.
Thomas Truszinski, Juran & Moody, Inc., stated that does not apply to
Andover because its districts were created prior to this legislation.
The legislation applies only to newly created TIF districts.
The Council commended the Finance Department Staff for the good work.
Mayor McKelvey asked for a motion to accept the 1995 audit, financial
statement, management letter and financial report.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, to so move. Motion carried on a 4-
Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
RECEIVE BIDS/AWARD SALE: 1996 CROSSOVER REFUNDING BONDS, GO TAX
INCREMENT BONDS AND IMPROVEMENT BONDS
Tom Truszinski, Juran & Moody, Inc., reported the presentations by Staff
to Moody's and Standards and Poors in New York on the City's financial
background has resulted in an upgrade in the City's bond rating from
BAAl to an A rating. He complimented the Staff on their efforts, noting
this results in lower interest rates for the City. When he first
approached the Council on the Crossover Refunding Bonds on April 16, the
interest rate was such that there would be no cost savings. However,
with the upgraded bond rating and the lower market interest rates, the
savings being realized exceeds $53,000 in this transaction.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - May 21, 1996
Page 4
(Receive Bids/Award Sale: 1996 Crossover Refunding Bonds, GO Tax
Increment Bonds and Improvement Bonds, Continued)
Mr. Truszinski reviewed the nine bids received for the $1,220,000
General Obligation Crossover Refunding Bonds of 1996, recommending the
award be given to the low bidder of FBS Investment Services, Inc. ,
jointly with Norwest Investment Services, Inc. , for a net effective
interest rate of 4.4866 percent.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, that the City of Andover approve
the sale of $1,220,000 General Obligation Crossover Refunding Bonds of
1996 to FBS Investment Services and Norwest Investment Services, Inc. ,
for a combined interest rate of 4.4866 percent overall. (See Resolution
RI07-96) Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
Mr. Truszinski reviewed the six bids received for the City's sale of
$2,055,000 General Obligation Tax Increment Bonds of 1996. He
recommended approval of the low bid of Piper Jaffray, Inc. , for an
effective net interest rate of 5.3122 percent. The reason the interest
on this bond is higher is because it is for a shorter period of time.
There is a very short call provision for August 1, 2003, call provision
at par.
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Knight, to award the low bid for the
$2,055,000 General Obligation Tax Increment Bonds of 1996 to Piper
Jaffray, Inc. I for a net interest rate of 5.3122 percent. (See
Resolution RI08-96) Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
Mr. Truszinski reviewed the five bids received for the sale of $600,000
General Obligation Improvement Bonds of 1996, recommending the bid be
awarded to the low bidder of FBS Investment Services, Inc. , and the
joint manager of Norwest Investment Services, Inc. , for a net interest
rate of 4.88 percent. This also has a short call option, with a call
date of August 1, 1999.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, approval of the sale of $600,000
General Obligation Improvement Bonds of 1996, awarded to FBS Investment
Services, Inc. , and Norwest Investment Services, Inc. , for a net
effective rate of 4.88 percent. (See Resolution RI09-96) Motion
carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote. The Council commended the
Staff for a job well done.
PUD ORDINANCE - DENSITY/PHASING
Mr. Carlberg explained since the May 7 meeting when the PUD Ordinance
was approved by the Council, two issues have been raised by developers.
The developers understood the density should be based on gross land
area. Staff interpreted the Ordinance to base the density on the net
land area and allow an increase in density to as much as 20 percent of
what the minimum district requirements would allow. If the Ordindnce is
based on the gross land area, then Staff feels there is no need to allow
the 20-percent increase in density. Staff prepared a report showing the
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - May 21, 1996
Page 5
(PUd Ordinance - Density/phasing, Continued)
comparisons of various plats platted under the R-l standards versus
platting under a PUD based on the gross land area. The Planning
Commission recommended the density be based on gross acreage plus the
20-percent increase based on the criteria already outlined in the
Ordinance.
Councilmember Jacobson stated it was his intent to get as much green
space as possible and still allow reasonable housing, not to get as many
houses as possible on one parcel. Councilmember Knight was con~erned
with cramming more houses into marginal lands. He also questioned the
type of septic systems for the proposed Timber River Estates, recalling
the plat to the north will have mound septic systems because of the
marginal soils. He also thought that an advantage of the PUD is having
to construct less infrastructure in terms of streets, etc.
Bvron Westlund. Woodland Development - stated the Staff's report doesn't
show the amenities that would be provided by the developers. They are
proposing to develop and improve the common areas, and to improve the
retention pond areas so they are not unsightly between the developments.
He provided the Council with copies of a handout showing several methods
of calculating density on their proposed Timber River Estates
development. The density calculations proposed by Staff would result in
the same density as platting to the standard R-l density. They arè
proposing the gross acreage plus a 15-percent increase in density plus
adding amenities to the City such as a developed park, walking trails,
observation blinds, and improvements to the sedimentation areas. Also,
their sketch plan is purely conceptual, because the number of lots may
need to be reduced after the wetlands delineation and soil borings have
been completed. Their proposal for Timber River Estates is for snlaller
one-acre lots to the east and larger four-acre lots along the river to
comply with the Scenic River Ordinance requirements. They would still
meet the 39,000 square-foot requirement.
In discussing the density issue, the Council had a fear that other
developers would try to cram as many units as possible into a
development area. Attorney Hawkins stated the same standards would need
to be applied to everyone. Mr. Carlberg stated that criteria is already
outlined in the Ordinance. Councilmember Jacobson noted that 67 lots on
Timber River Estates as allowed under R-l standards plus a 20-percent
increase in density results in 80 lots in this situation. Mr. Westlund
stated that is a suitable compromise.
Council generally agreed with the "net buildable area" plus allowing up
to a 20-percent increase in density. It was suggested there be further
clarification on the definition of "net buildable area".
Mr. Carlberg explained the second issue of the PUD Ordinance is on the
staging of development. The Council amended Section 4(9) on Page 5 to
not exceed 100 percent of the residential density in each stage. The
concern was that a developer could develop the first stage to 125
percent density of the entire PUD and then not develop the rest cf the
plat or sell the rest of the plat. The developers are concerned with
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - May 21, 1996
Page 6
(PUD Ordinance - Density/phasing, Con tinued)
the change, because the PUD would not be possible if the characteristics
of the property were such that all of the density increase was in the
first phase property, but this provision would not allow them that
increase.
Councilmember Jacobson felt the problem is with the sentence itself, as
he interpreted it to read that the density of the entire plat, whether
it says 100 or 125 percent, can be placed in each stage of the
development. Mr. Carlberg explained Staff was intending to allow the
additional density increase in each phase with an overall density r.ot to
exceed the maximum allowed for the plat. He agreed the paragraph should
be clarified.
Ernie pfannschmidt - owner of the property being developed by Woodland
Development as Timber River Estates. He would never expect Woodland
Development be a problem, as he found them to be upscale developers. He
intends to live there himself, as the property is very important to him.
The concept plan looks good to him. The land has been fallow for many
years, and he feels Woodland Development will do a good job of
developing it.
The Council noted the ordinance must be applied to all developers. They
noted the need for flexibility and for having the ability to negotiate
with developers, but the Ordinance must also protect the City. Attorney
Hawkins agreed to meet with Mr. Carlberg to reword this section so it is
not possible to put all of the density in one phase of the development.
Mr. Carlberg stated Staff will prepare the changes to the ordinance and
bring it back to the next Council meeting for consideration.
TIMBER RIVER ESTATES SKETCH PLAN
Mr. Erickson reviewed the sketch plan of Timber River Estates which is
proposed to be developed as a PUD. The 186 acres is proposed to consist
of 85 single family rural residential lots, 2 outlots and 1 park. The
lots to the east would be one acre in size, with four-acre lots proposed
along the river. A 9-acre developed park is proposed along the river
plus trails through the area. The outlots would be set up to preserve
the wetlands and some high land. The streets would be maintained by the
City. There are future accesses proposed to the north and south. The
Andover Review Committee's main concern was to provide a southerly
access to join an existing cul-de-sac which is about 170 feet to the
south over private property. The Planning Commission generally
concurred with the layout as proposed.
Councilmember Knight noted the street layout with future extension to
the north is in a floodplain area. He did not think it will be possiblp.
to construct a road through there.
Marqe ? - resident of the area to the south. She found out about this
meeting at 4:30 this afternoon and was not sure how many neighbors knew
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - May 21, 1996
Page 7
(Timber Rivers Estates Sketch Plan, Continued)
about this. They are all concerned with the proposal to provide an
access connecting their cul-de-sac with the proposed plat. They are
happy with the one road in and out of their plat. It limits the amount
of traffic. There are many young children and they do not want more and
faster traffic. She was concerned that this is going through too fast.
The Council explained this is only the sketch plan stage, and a public
hearing of which residents will be notified and where residents ca..
testify will be held when the preliminary plat is proposed. Mayor
McKelvey also noted the concern of the Police and Fire Departments for
public safety and the policy of looking for two entrances into each
plat.
Patrick Mann. Arqon Street - felt the primary consideration for safety
should be that of the children in their area. Making the connection
with the proposed plat will subject their children to more traffic and
traffic at higher speeds. He has no young children, but he would prefer
the possibility of the snow plow not being able to come through for
another day rather than triple the amount of traffic going past his
house and those neighbors who have children. Mayor McKelvey noted the
concern is also for fire, medical and police emergencies. Mr. Mann
still argued against the connection, that the daily traffic increase was
a more serious safety concern for the children in their neighborhood
than the ability of the Fire or Police Departmen~ ~'? ¡:f,espond a few
minutes earlier. Councilmember Jacobson noted the '1!} ~ld have to
negotiate with the property owner to obtain the easement to extend the
cul-de-sac to this development, and it appears the property owner will
not want to sell. He stated the connection will not be made unless
there is an agreement with the private property owner. Councilmember
Dehn felt there are other safety factors to consider. She had heard
this area was to be county park land.
Bvron Westlund. Woodland Development - was proud of what they put
together conceptually. To their knowledge, the property owners were
never approached by Anoka County for parks. They have tried to preserve
as much of the natural amenities of the property as possible and to
include buffers around the wetlands, nesting boxes and observation
blinds. The park is proposed in an area that has little trees to
minimize the tree loss. Because of the patterns of the land, they feel
the PUD is the right direction to take.
In response to Council questions, Mr. Westlund stated because of the
park improvements and the availability of the open areas to other
Andover residents, they would propose turning ownership of the outlots
to the City. They will look at connecting the trails throughout the
development. What is shown is conceptual because the wetland
delineations have not been done. They will look at how much open water
they will have to cross. They will also look at alternative layouts to
provide an access to the north. Councilmember Jacobson personally
wanted to see something different in the park other than softball and
soccer fields. He'd like to see a variety of activities, possibly a
tennis court. Given the resident objections to providing an access to
the south to connect with the existing cul-de-sac, he suggested the
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - May 21, 1996
Page 8
(Timber Rivers Estates Sketch Plan, Continued)
developer consider pulling the road back and ending with a cul-de-sac.
He understood the concerns of the residents with increased traffic
through their area, especially with the location of the proposed park.
He felt the plat is laid out well, but he was hoping to see a more
innovative clustering of houses and more open spaces. He also stated he
would be disappointed if Woodland cleared the area for development as he
has observed being done in the Shadowbrook plat.
Mr. Westlund explained the comments from the Building Department on the
septic systems and separation between septic and wells dictated the size
of the lots. They can look at it again, but their intent is to minimizp.
the loss of the trees. They will also change the proposal to the 80
lots which was suggested in the discussion on the previous agenda item
(See page 5 of these Minutes). Mr. Erickson stated they will evaluate
the need for mound septic systems versus the underground ones.
Councilmember Dehn was concerned with the displacement of wildlife,
though the artificially created ponds will house some of it; plus those
ponds are preferable to having ponding in the back yards. She too felt
there may be no street connection to the south because of the private
property involved. She wondered if the City is prepared to take over
another large park area. Mr. Carlberg explained the PUD allows the
Council to accept the property as park land; however, it does not have
to do so. The Council will make the decision after being advised by the
Park Board.
Mr. Westlund stated the Park and Recreation Commission liked the
concept. In another City they worked out an agreement where they
maintained the park property for one year after finalizing the plat.
The PUD allows that type of flexibility.
Mr. pfannschmidt recalled that no park was dedicated from Rolling
Meadows, the plat to the north, because it was intended this area would
have a park. That is why a park is going in there. Mr. Erickson noted
cash was taken in lieu of land for the Rolling Meadows plat. There was
no further Council comment.
NIGHTINGALE PRESERVE SKETCH PLAN
Mr. Erickson reviewed the sketch plan of Nightingale Preserve which is
proposed to be developed as a PUD with 11 single-family rural
residential lots and one outlot. The Council previously saw this parcel
proposed under the standard R-1 development of 2. 5-acre lots. The
property is currently not within the MUSA, but could be served in the
future with the current gravity sanitary sewer system. The proposed
Comprehensive Plan has the area slated for approximately 2010-2015. The
Fire Department is requesting that Raven Street NW in Wittington Ridge
be constructed to this proposed development to eliminate the long dead
ends. That connection would have to cross private property and is
outside of this plat. That property to the west of this plat is poor
soils and there is a question of the buildability of any future lots on
it. The Planning Commission has concurred with the concept and is
recommending the connection of the access to Wittington Ridge.
- . . - . .-
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - May 21, 1996
Page 9
(Nightingale Preserve Sketch Plan, Continued)
A representative of the developer stated they would form an association
for the open spaces. The outlot would not be public or city owned. Of
the 17.5 acres in the outlot, about 10 acres is DNR protected wetlands.
They have reduced the number of houses along 157th to five and have
improved the safety features of the development. The number of lots has
increased from 9 in the first proposal to 11 in this PUD proposal.
Without any increase in density, this meets the standard for both net
and gross area densities. The existing building on Lot 1 will be
removed. The house on Lot 6 will remain. They are not asking for
anything outside of the plat.
Jerrv Windschitl. Ashford Development - responded to a Council comment
on the drainage for the area. None of the ditches on the western
property drain to this property. This property is all self-contained.
Councilmember Dehn was concerned that the runoff doesn't go onto the
agricultural property. She has experienced promises from developers
that the runoff will not affect agricultural property, only to find
after the development is completed that it does affect the ag land.
The representative of the developer stated the storm water will stay on
the property with an overflow to Nightingale, which is away from the
Field's property to the west. Councilmember Knight's only concern was
with the long road. He'd like to see Raven Street extended to make the
connection. Councilmember Jacobson preferred to see the outlot given a
lot and block number. He was concerned with who will be responsible for
the outlot. He does not want to see the lot go tax forfeit. Attorney
Hawkins stated it is irrelevant whether it is an outlot or a lot. It is
still platted and the association will have covenants that will be filed
with each lot. The outlot would be owned by the association.
The representative of the developer stated if it is given a lot number,
it can be construed as a buildable lot, which it is not. Councilmember
Jacobson suggested Lots 9 and 10 be shifted to the east 20 feet, which
perhaps will provide enough room on the west edge of the plat to bring
Raven Street through to connect with 157th. He'd like to see tha~
street come through if possible. If those streets are never going to be
connected, he'd prefer to see 157th shortened and end in a cul-de-sac.
There were no further comments on the sketch plan.
CITY HALL DISCUSSION
Marc Pearce, Adolfson & Peterson, and Jerry Putnam and K. C. Lim, LHB
Engineers and Architects, addressed the Council. Mr. Pearce asked for
Council approval of the footprint of the proposed new City Hall. Then
they will move into the detailed layout and look at individual spaces.
The footprint is for 10,000 square feet for offices and the Council
chambers. They are still projecting to stay within budget and their
goal is to break ground around September 3.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - May 21, 1996
Page 10
(City Hall Discussion, Con tinued)
The Council expressed surprise that the footprint was now for 10,000
square feet, as they were under the impression the minimum discussed was
12,000 square feet and there was some concern that even that was too
small. Mr. Pearce stated the 10,000 square feet was based on the
discussions and the requirements for individual spaces. The proposal is
that some of the items that were in the new building can be put in the
exiting building and shared such as the mechanical and the restrooms.
They are still looking at a cost between $60 and $70 per square foot for
the new addition, which is within the construction budget.
After further discussion, the Council generally approved of the
footprint, that is the shape and location of the new building. They
felt, however, that 12,000 square feet was necessary. The preference
was to build the new building right the first time so another addition
isn't need in two years. They had no problem with the proposal to
utilize one restroom and one mechanical room for both the existing an1
new buildings. They also wanted to know the costs for remodeling the
existing building.
The Council agreed to hold a special meeting on Wednesday, June 5, 1996,
at 7 p.m., at the City Hall to review the next phase of the City Hall
building project with the construction manager and architects.
The Council recessed at 10:00; reconvened at 10:08 p.m.
PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING/SCHEDULE TOUR
Mr. Fursman gave a presentation on potential sources of funding to
finance a new Public Works building. A total amount of $2,955,000 is
estimated for the new City Hall construction, furnishing that building,
remodeling the existing City Hall and constructing a new 39,000 square-
foot Public Works building based on $56 per square foot, which is the
cost estimated by Craig Cronholm of Adolfson and Peterson. About
$1,555,000 is available from the sale of land to the school district,
the settlement from the Piper Jaffray fund, the sewer and water
assessments to the school district, a percentage of interest earned o~
investments plus funding from the water and sewer fund, the PIR fund and
the TIF fund. He showed two options of financing and the effects on the
City's finances, that is to either finance 100 percent of the costs or
to finance 50 percent of it. The assumption is that taxes would not be
raised to construct the buildings. Based on the numbers presented, he
hoped the Council feels comfortable in looking at constructing the City
Hall and the Public Works building together. There are some cost
savings by doing the two together.
There was some question by the Council as to the $300,000 proposed to be
put toward the projects from the water and sewer fund. They felt that
may be excessive and questioned if the funds actually had that amount
available or will rates have to be raised to cover that cost. Mr.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - May 21, 1996
Page 11
(Public Works Building/Schedule Tour, Con tinued)
Fursman pointed out that about 30 percent of the equipment to be housed
in the new Public Works building will be for the Sewer and Water
Departments. The money is available in the water fund now.
Mr. Stone stated the decision was made to keep the Department at the
City Hall site because they work closely with the Staff at the City
Hall. He noted a sketch showing a layout for storing the City's
equipment, and 29,000 square feet just squeezes in everything they have.
Hopefully in three to five years the third Fire Station will be
constructed and Public Works will then be able to utilize that area now
being used by the Fire Department. He also asked that the Council tour
their facilities and listen to a presentation by the Department
supervisors on the activities of 1995 and the plans for 1996.
The Council set the date of that tour for Wednesday, May 29, 6:30 p.m.
In discussing the proposal, it was suggested the cost for the Public
Works building might be reduced by constructing a steel building instead
of block, that possibly a "campus II environment is not essential, that
another area of expense for the City that must be kept in mind is to
bring the seal coating up to date, that the intent would be not to raise
taxes to pay for either the new City Hall or the new Public Works
buildings, that there must be further consideration in reducing the cost
of a Public Works building, that possibly some financing could be
arranged through the EDA for a 10- or IS-year period or a lease back,
and that the projects for the City Hall and the Public Works building
should be kept separate. There was an understanding for the need of
some building to house the Public Works equipment, but it was felt
further research needs to be done on the cost and on financing.
Winslow Holasek suggested the Public Works building be made large enough
so it doesn't have to be expanded before the bond is paid off. He felt
it would be better to match the new Public Works building with the
existing one rather than to match it with the City Hall. He personally
did not see the need for a brick Public Works building.
The Council agreed to discuss this further at the May 29 meeting, though
they suggested the Staff get price estimates from two or three others.
MOWING SERVICES
Mr. Stone reviewed the quote received for mowing grass and weeds. Thee
cost to contract for weeds is cheaper than what the City can do it for;
but the quote for mowing is about the same as the City's costs. He'd
prefer to contract the mowing also to allow the Staff to concentrate on
the other parks and athletic fields.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, that we accept the bid fro~ Well
Groomed Lawns, Inc. , for mowing grass and weeds as outlined in their
proposal and submittal for 1996 . Motion carried on a 4-Yes, l-Absent
(Kunza) vote.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - May 21, 1996
Page 12
GARBAGE HAULER ORDINANCE
Mr. Fursman explained the haulers who have been operating in the Citf
without a license are complaining that some haulers are buying other
haulers and then have more than one license. The question is whether
the City wants to further limit the amount of garbage haulers that drive
through the City or does it want to make a provision in the ordinance
which deals with parent company ownership of several licenses. Attorney
Hawkins stated if a company buys another company, it is two seI='arate
entities and they are entitled to two licenses.
After some discussion, the Council did not see a problem at the present
time, nor did they wish to increase the number of licenses issued for
garbage haulers. No change was suggested in the ordinance at this time.
PURCHASE OF TAX FORFEIT PARCEL
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, the purchase of tax forfeit parcel
29 32 24 42 0055, Outlot A, Brandon's Lakeview Estates. DISCUSSION:
Councilmember Jacobson opposed the purchase, as it becomes another
parcel the City must maintain. If the City doesn't take it or maintain
it, the county will have to. Mayor McKelvey stated the City must deal
with the county, and it has been their request that the City accept this
parcel. Motion carried on a 3-Yes, I-No (Jacobson) , I-Absent (Kunza)
vote.
AWARD BIDS FOR NEW FIRE TRUCK
Chief Winkel presented the bid for the replacement of Engine Six located
at Station No. 2. One bid was received from Pierce Manufacturing of
Appleton, Wisconsin, for $289,930. Staff has determined that the bid
meets or exceeds all of the minimum requirements as specified. Two
letters were also received from manufacturers who were mailed
specifications stating they could not bid on the truck at this time.
The Staff's estimate for the truck was $250,000; however, he was unaware
of the 17-percent increase in prices of new trucks effective the first
of the year. He expected another $2,000 will be needed for radios on
the truck. There will also be some deducts from the cost, as the
manufacturer has suggested some plumbing changes that would save some
money. The intent is to sell the existing truck, speculating it could
be sold for $25,000 to $30,000. Chief Winkel stated there is the
$55,000 that was to be used to refurbish the existing truck, plus the
sale of it that can be put toward the cost of the new one. The balance
is proposed to come from the PIR fund. As proposed, no funds will be
needed until 1997.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, to accept the low bid of Pierce
Manufacturing for $289,930, with the idea that it will be paid in 1997
and nothing coming out of the 1996 funding and those funding sources
already identified by Chief Winkel. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent
(Kunza) vote.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - May 21, 1996
Page 13
AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE NO. 69/0PEN BURNING ORDINANCE
Chief Winkel explained the intent of the amendment is to include the
rules and regulations for recreational fires in the ordinance. They
receive about 100 calls a week for recreational fires with the majority
taking place on weekends. Also, for every 100 calls they do receive,
they estimate there is another 100 recreational fires that are not
properly reported.
Councilmember Jacobson provided a copy of proposed changes to the
amendment. He was concerned with the hours during which people must
call in to report recreational fires. He felt the City must be more
accommodating to the residents and allow them to call in a minimum of 24
hours prior to the burn, even leaving a message on the answering
machine. Chief Winkel stated the preference is to talk with the
residents to be able to explain the regulations. The reason 9 a.m. to
3 p.m. was put in the ordinance is because that is when someone is at
the Fire Station to take the calls. He also explained that both
dispatch and the closest Fire Station is alerted to those recreational
fires that have been called in.
Mr. Fursman stated in talking with Chief Winkel, it was felt that
allowing residents to leave a message on the answering machine is just
as effective as not requiring them to report a recreational fire at all.
Possibly instead of having people call to report their intent and to
receive the instructions and regulations, the City should double its
effort in educating the residents on the rules and regulations and not
have them report them at all.
The Council generally agreed with Mr. Fursman's suggestion and agreed tc
increasing the effort to inform the public of the regulations for
recreational fires. The Council agreed with the changes suggested by
Councilmember Jacobson with two exceptions: delete the paragraph on
reporting recreational fires to the Andover Fire Department ( second
paragraph under Section 3a) and delete the last paragraph on liability.
The liability issue should be included in the educational material given
to residents.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, the ordinance amendment as modified
by Councilmember Jacobson but with the two paragraphs deleted. Motion
carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
The Council recessed at this time to hold an EDA meeting, 11:38;
reconvened at 11:43 p.m.
APPROVE NO PARKING/IP95-14/CROOICED LAKE BOULEVARD
Mr. Erickson explained at the public hearing the residents indicated
they wanted parking on one side and no parking on the other side of
Crooked Lake Boulevard. No sidewalk or trail is being constructed a~
this time, though the Comprehensive Plan calls for a bike route through
this portion of the City.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - May 21, 1996
Page 14
(Approve No Parking/IP95-14/Crooked Lake Boulevard, Continued)
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Knight, to approve the Resolution (See
Resolution RII0-96 designating no parking on the east side of Crooked
Lake Boulevard from 133rd Avenue NW to Bunker Lake Boulevard NW).
Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
APPROVE PROPOSALS/CONCESSIONS/CITY HALL PARK COMPLEX #2
Councilmember Knight suggested a provision in the contract be included
that the building would be left in good condition at the end of the
summer and that it be the responsibility of C & H Enterprises to do any
needed repairs if it is not in good condition. That would not include
any work to the structure; only that due to the neglect of C & H
Enterprises. That should also apply to the City's equipment that is
left in the fall. Councilmember Jacobson thought there should either a
security deposit or insurance for property damage.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, to approve the agreement with the
language to be added in the fall when the concession area is closed the
machinery should be in good condition less normal wear and tear. Motion
carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
APPROVE QUOTES/CONCESSION FREEZER « ICE MAKER/CITY HALL PARK COMPLEX #2
Councilmember Jacobson suggested the rental fees from the Concession
Building be given to the Park Board budget until the equipment is paid
for, since the funding to purchase the equipment will come from their
budget. The Council agreed.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, to accept the low bid on each item
with the rental fees to go back to the Park Board budget until the
equipment is paid for, and then the funds would revert back to the
General Funds of the City. (Superior Products, $2,337.57 for an ice
machine and bin; Palm Bros., $1,049.02 for a freezer) Motion carried on
a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
Parking in cul-de-sac on 139th Avenue - Mayor McKelvey reported he
received calls that 17 cars were parked in the cul-de-sac on 139th
behind Crooked Lake School, with the problem being the worst on
Wednesday and Thursday evenings. The Council had told the residents the
no parking signs would go back up again permanently if there was a
problem this spring. The Council asked Staff to view the area to see if
there is a problem and to make a recommendation.
Grading of Shadowbrook plat - Councilmember Jacobson expressed
disappointment in the grading taking place in the Shadowbrook
development, as it appears that acres of trees have been cleared out
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Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - May 21, 1996
Page 15
(Mayor/Council Input, Continued)
except for a few along the borders. It is very frustrating, especially
since the intent in granting the variances on the basement elevations
was to save the trees. He stated will he certainly be more careful in
reviewing grading plans in the future to avoid this situation again.
Traffic signal at Hanson and Crosstown Boulevards - Because of the many
accidents at this intersection, including the serious one this evening,
the Council asked that the county be urged to install a traffic signal
there.
Telephone service in plats - Councilmember Jacobson understood the phone
company is not providing telephone service to some plats for up to si',
months. It is a public service issue and the State Attorney General in
Colorado ordered the phone company to provide cellular phones to
residents in similar situations. Because of the importance of phones,
especially in emergency situations, he suggested the phone company be
made aware of the ruling in Colorado and be asked to provide cellular
phones to those Andover residents without phone service until that
service is available.
Presentation by Metropolitan Council Staff - Mr. Carlberg asked if the
Council was interested having the Metropolitan Council Staff give a
presentation on the three growth options that Council will be reviewing.
The City Council agreed to hear that presentation at the June 4, 1996,
regular meeting, if possible.
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, the Claims as presented. Motion
carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, to adjourn. Motion carried on ~
4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
The meeting was adjourned at 12:03 a.m.
Respectfull~submitted,
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Recording Secretary