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Resident Forum NAME
Agenda Approval
Consent Agenda
Approval of Minutes SECTION NAME Oaprvminu [;t3-6min
Discussion Items SECfION NAME Ddiscuss
1. Discuss Senior Development Proposal/Bunker Lake Blvd. [¡jseniorhp
2. Adopt Resolution/Intent to Bond/Capital Improvement Projects l)'gobond
3. Authorize Juran & Moody /1996 ClP Bonding/Refunding GO Bond 1989A rtgobond
4. Discuss Possible Lift Station/Shadowbrook '3:shadowbr
5. Consider MSA Designation Through Crown POinte/Crown Pointe East [[msadesig
6. Park and Recreation Director Discussion ~parkdire
7. Discuss Street Lighting/94-33/Commercial Blvd. [94-33
8. Commercial Park/So Andover Site Street Layout ~commpark
EDA Meeting SECfION NAME Oeda
9. Authorize Juran & Moody /1996 TlF Bond ii:tifbond
Reports of Staff, Committees, Commissions SECfION NAME r:Jreports
10. Report on Met Council [:I:metd
11 . PCD Tower Update ,ªpcd
12. Approve Hiring of 2 Temporary Building Attendants/Field of Dreams [èbldgatte
13. Change Status/Mechanic [.':mechanic
14. Approve 1996 Park Capital Budget I':parkbudg
Non-Discussion/Consent Items SECTION NAME Unondiscu
15. Approve Resolution/Trail Fee ~'trailfee
16. Approve Resolution/Fee for Removal of Debris from Streets ["debris
17. Approve Kennel License Renewal/L. Olson 'i'kennel
18. Six Month Probationary Period/Construction Inspector ~constins
19. Declare Cost/Order Assessment Roll/Crown Pointe Eastj94-22 129422decl
20. Waive Hearing/ Adopt Assessment Roll/Crown Pointe East/94-22 l¿9422waiv
21. Declare Cost/Order Assessment Roll/Foxberry Farms/94-8 c::948decla
22. Waive Hearing/ Adopt Assessment Roll/Foxberry Farms/94-8 L:948waive
23. Declare Costs/Order Assessment Roll/Hills of Bunker Lake 5th/93-12 L9312decl
24. Waive Hearing/ Adopt Assessment Roll/Hills of Bunker Lake 5th/93-12 L£:9312waiv
25. Declare Costs/Order Assessment Roll/ Fox Woods/94-9 [949decla
26. Waive Hearing/ Adopt Assessment Roll/Fox Woods/94-9 li:949waive
27. Declare Costs/Order Assessment Rolls/95-7, 95-9, 95-10, 95-22 lè'957decla
28. Order Plans & Specs/96-6/Misc. Concrete Curb & Gutter Repair [;;]%-6
29. Approve Final Payment/95-7, 95-9, 95-10, 95-22 [95-7fpay
30. Approve Purchase of Half Section Books l'¡halfsect
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REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES - MARCH 6, 1996
TABLE OF CONTENTS
RESIDENT FORUM . · · · · · 1
AGENDA APPROVAL · · · · 1
CONSENT AGENDA
Approve 1996 Park Capital Budget · · · · 1
Resolution R038-96 setting trail fee · · · · · · · 1
Resolution R039-96 setting fee for removal of debris/streets 1
Approve kennel license renewal/L. Olson · · · · · · 1
Six-month probationary period/Construction Inspector · · · · 1
Resolution R040-96 declaring cost/ordering assessment roll/
Crown pointe East/IP94-22 · · · · · · · 2
Resolution R041-96 waiving hearing/adopting assessment roll/
Crown pointe East/IP94-22 · · · · · · · 2
Resolution R042-96 declaring cost/ordering assessment roll/
Foxberry Farms/IP94-8 · · · · · · · · · · · 2
Resolution R043-96 waiving hearing/adopting assessment roll/
Foxberry Farms/IP94-8 · · · · · · · · · · 2
Resolution R044-96 declaring cost/ordering assessment roll/
Hills of Bunker Lake 5th/IP93-12 · · · · · · 2
Resolution R045-96 waiving hearing/adopting assessment roll/
Hills of Bunker Lake 5th/IP93-12 · · · · · · · · 2
Resolution R046-96 declaring cost/ordering assessment roll/
Fox Woods/IP94-9 · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
Resolution R047-96 waiving hearing/adopting assessment roll/
Fox Woods/IP94-9 · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
Resolution R048-96 declaring costs/ordering assessment rolls/
IP95-7, IP95-9, IP95-10, IP95-22 · · · · · · · · · 2
Resolution R049-96 approving final payment/IP95-7, IP95-9,
IP95-10, IP95-22 · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
Approve purchase of half-section books · · · · · · · 2
Approve abatement, Lot 7, Block 1, Hidden Creek East 5th · · 2
NORTH METRO MAYORS' ASSOCIATION · · · · · · · · · 2
APPROVAL OF MINUTES . . · · · · · · · · · · · · 3
DISCUSSION SENIOR DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL/BUNKER LAKE BOULEVARD · · 4
INTENT TO BOND/CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS
Resolution R050-96 on intent to bond for capital improvement
projects . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 5
AUTHORIZE JURAN AND MOODY/1996 CIP BONDING/REFUNDING GO BOND 1989A
Motion to so move · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 5
DISCUSS POSSIBLE LIFT STATION/SHADOWBROOK · · · · · · · 5
CONSIDER MSA DESIGNATION THROUGH CROWN POINTE/CROWN POINTE EAST · 6
Motion to table and renegotiate with developer · · 8
PARK AND RECREATION DIRECTOR DISCUSSION · · · · · · · 9
DISCUSS STREET LIGHTING/IP94-33/COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD · · · · 9
Motion to go with Anoka electric lights · · · · · · · 10
COMMERCIAL PARK/SOUTH ANDOVER SITE STREET LAYOUT
Motion to grade all city-owned property in Commercial park/
adopt proposed street layout · · · · · 10
PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION · · · · · · · · · 10
CHANGE STATUS/MECHANIC
Motion to change temporary part-time status of mechanic to full
time . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · 11
ORDER PLANS AND SPECS/IP96-6/MISC. CONCRETE CURB & GUTTER REPAIR 11
Resolution R051-96 ordering improvement & plans and specs · · 12
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Table of Contents
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UPDATE ON METROPOLITAN COUNCIL · · . · . · · · · · . 12
PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVISE TOWER UPDATE . . . · · 12
APPROVE HIRING OR TWO TEMPORARY BUILDING ATTENDANTS/FIELD OF DREAMS
Motion to so move . · · · . · · · 13
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
Minutes of Closed Meetings . . . . · · · 13
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS . · · · · . . · · · · · . 13
ADJOURNMENT . . . . · · . . 13
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CITY of ANDOVER
1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304. (612) 755-5100
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - MARCH 6, 1996
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to
order by Mayor Jack McKelvey on March 6, 1996, 7:00 p.m., at the Andover
City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmembers present: Dehn, Jacobson, Knight, Kunza
Councilmembers absent: None
Also present: City Attorney, William G. Hawkins
City Engineer, Scott Erickson
City Planning Director, Dave Carlberg
City Administrator, Richard Fursman
Others
RESIDENT FORUM
Winslow Holasek. 1159 Andover Boulevard NW - asked why the costs per lot
being certified in the various assessment rolls under tonight's Non-
Discussion items vary by as much as $3,000. He understood there may be
a difference in depth of sewer, but the densities are the same. Mr.
Erickson explained the assessment per lot on each project is determined
by actual costs of that proj ect divided by total number of lots.
Differences in assessments can result from additional mileage for
streets, additional storm sewers, different contractor and unit bid
prices, and interest if the construction runs for a longer period of
time. Mayor McKelvey also noted that the developers for the Hills of
Bunker Lake 5th and Fox Woods picked up additional costs for
blacktopping streets outside of their developments. That also increased
the per-lot assessment in those developments.
AGENDA APPROVAL
After Approval of Minutes, Add North Metro Mayors' Association. Also
add Items 8a, Planned Unit Development Discussion, and 31, Approve
Abatement, Lot 7, Block 1, Hidden Creek East 5th Addition. Move Item
14, Approve 1996 Park Capital Budget, to the Non-Discussion Items. Move
Item 28, Order Plans & Specs/IP96-6/Misc. Concrete Curb & Gutter Repair,
to Discussion Items.
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Kunza, to approve the Agenda as presented
with those amendments. Motion carried unanimously.
CONSENT AGENDA
Ite~ 14 Approve 1996 Park Capital Budget
Item 15 Approve Resolution/Trail Fee (See Resolution R038-96)
Item 16 Approve Resolution/Fee for Removal of Debris from
Streets (See Resolution R039-96)
Item 17 Approve Kennel License Renewal/L. Olson
Item 18 Six-Month Probationary Period/Construction Inspector
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Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - March 6, 1996
Page 2
(Consent Agenda, Continued)
Item 19 Declare Cost/Order Assessment Roll/Crown pointe
East/IP94-22 (See Resolution R040-96)
Item 20 Waive Hearing/Adopt Assessment Roll/Crown Pointe
East/IP94-22 (See Resolution R041-96)
Item 21 Declare Cost/Order Assessment Roll/Foxberry Farms/
IP94-8 (See Resolution R042-96)
Item 22 Waive Hearing/Adopt Assessment Roll/Foxberry Farms/
IP94-8 (See Resolution R043-96)
Item 23 Declare Costs/Order Assessment Roll/Hills of Bunker
Lake 5th/IP93-12 (See Resolution R044-96)
Item 24 Waive Hearing/Adopt Assessment Roll/Hills of Bunker
Lake 5th/IP93-12 (See Resolution R045-96)
Item 25 Declare Costs/Order Assessment Roll/Fox Woods/IP94-9
(See Resolution R046-96)
Item 26 Waive Hearing/Adopt Assessment Roll/Fox Woods/IP94-9
(See Resolution R047-96)
Item 27 Declare Costs/Order Assessment Rolls/IP95-7, IP95-9,
IP95-10, IP95-22 (See Resolution R048-96)
Item 29 Approve Final Payment/IP95-7, IP95-9, IP95-10, IP95-22
(See Resolution R049-96)
Item 30 Approve Purchase of Half-Section Books
Item 31 Approve Abatement, Lot 7, Block 1, Hidden Creek East
5th Addition
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, to approve the Consent Items.
Motion carried unanimously.
NORTH METRO MAYORS' ASSOCIATION
Al Tinklenberg, Mayor, City of Blaine, updated the Council on the
activities of the North Metro Mayors' Association. He noted a sheet he
was given today listing the road projects being done in the north metro
region for the years 1996 through 1999, which he was told proves that
dollars are being spent in the north metro region. He felt their voice
is now being heard and that the Association is having an impact in
making the issues of the north metro region heard. The Association has
been trying to get people to face issues and to take the needs seriously
for this part of the region. The Association is continuing to work on
a number of things in terms of regional planning, including growth and
planning outside the metro area and the impact on the highway system.
He felt the Association needs to keep working together and to speak as
one unified voice to make progress.
Joseph Strouse then provided a document to the Council comparing the net
taxing capacities of the member cities with other metropolitan
communities. It shows that across the board, the net tax capacity of
the North Metro Mayors' Association members is significantly lower than
those communities located in the south and southwestern metro area. Any
change to the Local Government Aid or HACA by the State Legislature
becomes very critical to member communities. They will be providing a
different spread on property tax information that will include TIF
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - March 6, 1996
Page 3
(North Metro Mayors' Association, Continued)
funding, percentage of commercial revenues and more. About 70 percent
of the residents in member communities work outside of their community,
which is a part of the economic development issue and how the
communities develop in the future. One of the things being considered as
an organization is how to restructure to work on these economic
development issues along main corridors, the impact on transportation,
pulling the communities together. They will be making a recommendation
to the Board in April as to how to structure that process. He also
thanked Mayor McKelvey and Mr. Fursman for their acti vi ties in the
Association.
Councilmember Jacobson asked about statements he has read when the
Association takes a position on an issue. How does the association
arrive at a position which speaks for all of these cities? To his
knowledge the Andover Council has not voted on these issues. Mr.
Strouse explained each year they have a legislative advisory committee
that looks at 18 to 20 items. He understands the communities discuss
them and provide feedback to the advisory committee, which then ranks
each of the issues. It is then brought to the board for adoption before
any position is taken by the Association. Mayor MCKelvey stated the
information is sent to all Councilmembers, but often no comments are
received. Also, the position of the Association is done by majority
vote, so not all cities may be in agreement. He asked Mr. Tinklenberg
for a copy of the proposed proj ects for the north metro area. Mr.
Fursman stated typically those items are not placed on the agenda.
Individual councilmembers have taken their own initiative on items of
concern. Mr. Tinklenberg stated that is how it is handled in Blaine as
well. He agreed to give Mayor McKelvey a copy of the proposed projects.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
February 20, 1996, Regular Meeting: Page 3, Approval of Minutes,
February 6 meeting: Mayor McKelvey clarified his statement by
explaining there was a meeting with the developer, Jerry
Windschitl, about the bridge over Coon Creek and the possibility of
using MSA funds and some contribution from the developer to pay for
it. Following that discussion, the issue of the lawsuit came up
and there was a general discussion on it. The two items were not
connected. The bridge was not offered as a settlement for the
lawsuit.
Page 10, City's Development, hange "Councilmember Jacobson
noted. . . ." to "Mr. Fursman noted that if a person's property is
within the development area...".
February 20, 1996, EDA meeting: Correct as written.
February 20, 1996, HRA meeting: Correct as written.
February 20, 1996, Special Closed meeting: Correct as written.
February 20, 1996, Special City Council meeting: Correct as written.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - March 6, 1996
Page 4
(Approval of Minutes, Continued)
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, approval of all Minutes as
corrected. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
DISCUSS SENIOR DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL/BUNKER LAKE BOULEVARD
Mr. Carlberg asked the Council to review the concept plan and proposal
of Adolfson and Peterson and Presbyterian Homes of Minnesota to develop
a senior housing project on the north side of Bunker Lake Boulevard NW
between Quay Street NW and Marigold Street NW.
Wilt Berger, Miller Hanson Westerbeck Berger, Inc., Architects,
explained they have been retained by the Adolfson family and
Presbyterian Homes of Minnesota to look at a senior campus. There are
many amenities to the site including the forestry, the Round Barn, easy
access to a major road and shopping center, and being adjacent to a
residential neighborhood. An agricultural theme is being proposed for
the overall campus. Access would be from three areas off residential
streets, not directly from Bunker Lake Boulevard. About 25 to 30 low
density units, probably duplexes or townhouses, would be on the eastern
side. The western portion would be about 85 units for independent
living senior apartments, probably with meals programs and another 55
units of an assisted living type housing where those with medical needs
could be cared for. A nurse would be on staff as well as people to do
housekeeping, etc. It differs from a nursing home, however, in that it
is still independent living. The apartment buildings would probably be
three to four stories high. Potential uses of the Round Barn, which is
currently a craft store, has been as a community center or farmers'
market with garden plots and a well for well water. From a marketing
standpoint, the development would be phased, probably starting with the
low-density housing around the country lane. The interior roads would
be private and would be privately maintained. The development would
remain as a taxable entity, but no federal funding is expected to be
used. A thought was to create a skating pond for the children of the
adjoining neighborhood, plus a play area for visiting grandchildren.
presbyterian Homes of Minnesota does operate a similar campus in
Roseville. They would like to begin constructing the low-density homes
some time this summer.
The Council generally applauded the idea of a senior campus but was
concerned with the height of the buildings. Because this is a change in
the proposed development and possibly the zoning of that area, the
Council felt the entire Woodland Creek neighborhood should be invited to
a neighborhood meeting for their input. It was also thought the Round
Barn is on the historic register and research should be done to be sure
there can be a change in the use of that building. Mr. Carlberg stated
this development would meet some of the life-cycle needs of the City
which is being addressed by the Metropolitan Council.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - March 6, 1996
Page 5
(Senior Development Proposal/Bunker Lake Boulevard, Continued)
Winslow Holasek. 1159 Andover Boulevard NW - asked if the same
organization operates the assisted living apartments south of
Northwestern college on Snelling. Mr. Berger stated Presbyterian Homes
of Minnesota does operate a senior campus near that area, but he didn't
think it was the one Mr. Holasek referred to. Councilmember Knight
stated Presbyterian Homes does enjoy a very good reputation.
Staff was asked to work with the developer and set up a neighborhood
meeting for input on the proposal.
ADOPT RESOLUTION/INTENT TO BOND/CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, the Resolution as presented with
one change, on the first page, under Item No. 2, Official Intent
Declaration, on the fourth line, "...Council hereby authorizes the City
Clerk or Finance Officer to make the City's declarations." Delete rest
of sentence. (See Resolution R050-96) Motion carried unanimously.
AUTHORIZE JURAN & MOODY/1996 CIP BONDING/REFUNDING GO BOND 1989A
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, to so move. (authorize City Staff
to proceed with the 1996 Capital Improvement Project financing and
crossover refunding of the GO Improvement of 1989A) . DISCUSSION: Mr.
Fursman pointed out there is some flexibility in the savings that may be
realized by this action. It will depend on the interest rate at the
time of bond. A conservative estimate is $55,000, though it could be
more than $85,000. Motion carried unanimously.
DISCUSS POSSIBLE LIFT STATION/SHADOWBROOK
Mr. Erickson noted during the sketch plan review of the Shadowbrook
development a sanitary sewer lift station was identified to service the
northeast corner of the plat. The original proposal was to develop the
plat in two phases. Three phases are now being discussed, with the
third one being that northeast corner where the gravity flow starts to
be a problem. In doing further study of the area, it has been found
that a gravity flow sewer main could serve this area, but it would mean
clear cutting any mature trees and bringing in approximately six feet of
fill to the area to cover the sewer line. If an adequate amount of fill
could not be used, it may limit the area to homes with slabs on grade or
possibly split level structures. With the use of a lift station, more
of the forestation could be left. It could also be installed at a lower
elevation to provide future service to the area north of the creek,
which would be more economical than servicing that area by gravity flow
with a deep sewer line. There is little maintenance expense on a
gravity flow line unless there is a break. Then the maintenance would
be great. A lift station would require routine maintenance similar to
a well house, which must be checked daily; plus there is an additional
energy cost of operation.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - March 6, 1996
Page 6
(Discuss possible Lift StationjShadowbrook, Continued)
Mr. Erickson answered Council questions by explaining the lift station
is submerged and would be much shallower than a gravity flow line.
Generally cities that have lift stations do not have variable rates for
those residents who are served by lift stations and those who are served
by gravity flow; however, Staff could evaluate the additional operating
costs of a lift station to determine whether there should be a different
rate. If allowed here, he felt any additional requests for lift
stations in the City would have to be reviewed on a case-by-case basis.
The initial costs of installating the lift station would be part of the
development. Any oversizing to serve the area to the north would
typically be trunk costs. Lift stations are very reliable, and he went
into some detail about the backup and warning systems that would be in
place. Attorney Hawkins advised the City would not be liable for damage
to private property if there is a problem unless a situation occurred
that was due to the City's negligence.
Frank Stone, Public Works Superintendent, explained the current lift
station is on a radio control. If anything goes wrong, they know
immediately. There have been no problems with the lift station in
place. With proper maintenance, he guessed the motor would last for
seven to ten years.
Gary Gorham, Gorham Builders, Inc., stated they could serve that portion
of the plat with gravity flow, but all the trees would have to be
removed. He felt the saving of trees is a very valid reason for going
with a lift station. It would also help serve the area to the north.
He suggested the possibility of just leaving that third phase blank with
a PUD designation at this time while going through the platting process
and then work with the Council, Planning Commission and Staff on
different concepts in that planned unit development area. That area may
or may not have private streets, will definitely be covered with
covenants, and possibly have an association. He thought this would
provide the best product. The Council made no decision on that proposal.
The sense of the Council was to pursue the use of a sanitary sewer lift
station to serve the northeast corner of this plat. They felt this is
a unique area, and they did not wish to see all of the trees removed to
use the gravity-flow line. At the same time, they did not want to be
obligated to use lift stations as a general policy elsewhere in the
City. They asked Staff to look at the costs of operating a lift station
and to decide whether there is a need for a surcharge to those residents
on that line.
CONSIDER MSA DESIGNATION THROUGH CROWN POINTEjCROWN POINTE EAST
As in the past, Councilmember Jacobson stated his position has not
changed, that he did not feel the bridge was a proper use of the City's
MSA funds. If approved, however, he felt it is imperative to have
something in writing between the City and the developer as to how much
each party is contributing toward the costs so there is no
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - March 6, 1996
Page 7
(Consider MSA Designation - Crown Pointe/Crown Pointe East, Continued)
misunderstanding in the future. Councilmember Dehn agreed the agreement
should be in writing, but she favored the bridge because of the safety
issue. If there were a train derailment similar to what happened in
Wisconsin this week, the residents in Crown Pointe would have no other
access without this bridge. Councilmember Kunza agreed.
Councilmember Knight was frustrated because the issue of a bridge was
talked about at length when Crown Pointe East was first presented. He
felt some provision for the bridge should have been made by the
developer and included in the plats with the costs spread between the
two developments. He didn't think the use of MSA funds is justified in
terms of traffic demand. This option uses 1 1/2 years of MSA funds for
one developer. He's received negative reaction from at least one
developer, some phone calls opposing it, and one confrontation at the
video store where the person stated the Council should be ashamed of
giving that money away. The City has never designated that much money
to one developer before. Plus there is absolutely no time table as to
when the street would outlet to prairie Road, as there are no plans to
develop that vacant property through which the MSA road would go.
Mayor McKelvey felt a precedent was set when the City tried to have a
bridge constructed from Eldorado south to CoRd 116 to provide another
outlet to The Meadows of Round Lake development. A resolution was
passed and many dollars were spent trying to convince the DNR of the
necessity of that bridge, and an MSA road was designated through that
residential area. The Council has denied a second exit from Crown
pointe going across the railroad tracks and the developer is unable to
float a road across the wetlands. He saw the use MSA funds to build a
bridge to provide that second exit the same as what the City was tryin~
to do on Eldorado. This is a safety issue. He didn't understand why
this would be any different or the reason for opposing this proposal.
Also, it appears the City will not get MUSA expansion until mid-summer,
and there is a need to have buildable lots available in order to obtain
the necessary revenues in the budget. This would allow that plat to
proceed and provide some of those buildable lots. He did not consider it
a waste of money.'
Councilmember Jacobson stated the Council did offer the developer the
option of floating a road over the wetlands to Andover Boulevard subject
to the approval of the watershed Board. The other option is to have the
developer construct the bridge and spread the costs across both
developments of Crown Pointe and Crown pointe East.
Councilmember Dehn felt a compromise would be that the City negotiate
further with the developer to have him contribute a greater amount
toward the bridge.
Bob Boyum, the City's representative on the Coon Creek Watershed Board,
stated the Board has not had an opportunity to investigate either the
bridge option or going across the wetlands. He encouraged the Council
to table this item to allow the Watershed Board to get further
information and to review it. There is a precedent for allowing
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - March 6, 1996
Page 8
(Consider MSA Designation - Crown Pointe/Crown Pointe East, Continued)
developments with only one entrance; and that, to him, is a better
solution than creating a thoroughfare to serve 40 houses. The use of
MSA funds is still spending someone's money. If the issue is safety and
the area is too dangerous, maybe the City should buy the land back from
the developer and turn it into an open undeveloped park. A bridge is
the most expensive form of development, and that is why cities generally
avoid it. Is it worth it to build a state aid road to accommodate the
bridge when there is another road 100 feet away, that is Andover
Boulevard? Again, he asked that the Watershed Board be given an
opportunity to review the fire lane through the wetlands. While a bridge
is the best option, he didn't believe the City should finance it.
Jerry Windschitl, Ashford Development, developer, stated the fire lane
proposal over the wetland was discussed at several meetings with the
watershed manager. A formal submittal was not made to the Watershed
because other alignments were to be looked at. But he furnished the
Board with a complete set of documents and minutes of meetings that took
place. Councilmember Jacobson did not understand why that had not been
done since the Council did recommend that option. Mr. Erickson estimated
the cost of floating a road over the wetland would be about $60,000.
Winslow Holasek, 1159 Andover Boulevard NW - thought the safety issues
should be separated from the MSA issue. MSA funds should be used where
there is a need for a thoroughfare to handle the traffic. The criteria
of safety should not be used to determine whether MSA funds are used or
not. MSA funds are taxpayer funds, and he is opposed to double dipping,
that is using MSA funds to build a road but then assessing the developer
for the same road. The City would be receiving about $200,000 from the
developer both in an outright contribution and from assessments on the
MSA road now and from the future development. He did not think that is
a good return on a $503,000 project for the bridge. He did not think
the traffic issue is there to consider MSA funds. There is a safety
issue, but that shouldn't be resolved with State Aid funds.
Councilmember Knight asked if it is an absolute policy to require two
entrances to a development. Mr. Erickson stated that is a standard
requirement of the Fire Department for safety purposes. Councilmember
Jacobson thought everyone agreed there is a safety issue on the Crown
pointe plat. The question being raised is whether it is appropriate to
use State Aid funds to construct that second access or are there other
options to the developer. The Council continued to debate the issue.
Mr. Boyum stated he would be willing to bring this item to the Coon
Creek Watershed Board at their next meeting on March 11, 1996. Then they
would at least have an opportunity to investigate the options and make
a recommendation. Mr. Windschitl stated he had no difficulty making a
formal application to the Watershed Board. The watershed manager told
him the combined process would take about four months to go through.
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Kunza, to table this on the basis that we
negotiate and define the monetary terms of what the developer will pay
to the T and bring it back, that is renegotiate that $100,000
contribution. Include that the developer would start the process with
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - March 6, 1996
Page 9
(Consider MSA Designation - Crown pointe/Crown Pointe East, Continued)
the Watershed Board at his option. DISCUSSION: Councilmember Dehn very
strongly recommended the developer do begin the process of gaining
approval from through the watershed for the second road through the
wetland, but she did not want to mandate it. At the request of Mr.
Windschitl, Councilmember Dehn agreed to table the item for six weeks,
until the second regular City Council meeting in April (April 16, 1996).
Motion carried unanimously.
Councilmember Knight felt it was implied that there is a personal reason
for opposing the use of MSA funds for a bridge. He stated it is not a
personal issue, he simply disagrees with that use of MSA funds. Mayor
McKelvey stated he did not intend to imply there was a personal issue.
He did not understand why the Council approved a similar request in one
instance and there is opposition for this one.
PARK AND RECREATION DIRECTOR DISCUSSION
Mr. Fursman explained at the time of the discussions about the
possibility of hiring a Park and Recreation Director, he was unaware of
the services being provided through the school district. He now
realizes the City has not utilized the resources of the school district
to their fullest extent and recommends that the City work more closely
with the community school on the present and expanding programs. He
felt it is imperative to establish better reporting between the City and
the school district. One of the things the community school is
struggling with now is an expansion of their responsibilities as the new
middle school and expanded Andover Elementary schools will be opened
with no increase in their budget. At this time he is recommending that
the position of a Park and Recreation Director be put on hold for the
remainder of the year and that the City work more closely with the
school district for another year, then evaluate their services before
looking at the position again. The Park and Recreation Commission is
agreeable to that recommendation.
Charlie Veiman, Crooked Lake Boulevard, applauded the recommendation. He
also felt that the school district is misusing some dollars when it does
not provide additional funding for community schools yet can afford a
$80,000 to $100,000 sign for Andover School.
The Council concurred with Mr. Fursman's recommendation.
DISCUSS STREET LIGHTING/IP94-33/COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD
Mr. Erickson reviewed the information for street lighting for the
Commercial Boulevard project. To contract with Anoka Electric
Cooperative would cost $100 per light for installation and $10 per month
per light for maintenance and energy. For a private lighting system
that would be maintained by the City, the installation cost would be
about $2,935 per light; and maintenance and energy costs of about $12.50
per month per light.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - March 6, 1996
Page 10
(Street Lighting/IP94-33/Commercial Boulevard, Continued)
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, to go with the Anoka Electric lights
and installation; and go with the second option style lights of 150
watts high pressure sodium lights. Motion carried unanimously.
COMMERCIAL PARK/SOUTH ANDOVER SITE STREET LAYOUT
Mr. Erickson described a proposed layout of the streets for the South
Andover site. The site and the type of development does not lend itself
to using cul-de-sacs. The proposal is to drop the frontage road down to
allow a tier of businesses between the road and Bunker Lake Boulevard.
That proposal can potential1y delay the construction of the frontage
road until all of the property is purchased, but it is felt it would be
the best overall layout for the area. Businesses would have access from
the frontage road but would be designed to also be attractive from the
Bunker Lake Boulevard side. The proposal also calls for landscapinq
the ponding areas to provide a more aesthetically pleasing area.
Mr. Carlberg explained part of the site plan review process will be to
be sure the businesses will have a nice appearance from Bunker Lake
Boulevard. Staff feels this is a better design for the service road.
Mr. Fursman stated Staff has discussed the possibility of a temporary
entrance onto Bunker Lake Boulevard until the property can be acquired
for the frontage road to accommodate development. That temporary access
would be closed once the frontage road is completed. Mr. Erickson
stated they would still construct Commercial Boulevard this summer and
grade all of the property owned by the City. He asked the Council to
move to include the site grading with the Commercial Boulevard project
and to accept the street layout as presented this evening wi th the
curvilinear streets.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, to so move. Motion carried
unanimously.
PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION
Mr. Carlberg explained the Planning and Zoning Commission discussed the
planned unit development concept. The Council had proposed no increase
in density with for PUDs; however, the Planning Commission believes that
unless there is a provision for density increases, developers will not
utilize that form of development.
Councilmember Jacobson stated his major concern is to make sure there is
a lot of green space. He does not want to jam a lot of people into a
small area with very little green space. After listening to the
Planning Commission's discussion, he stated he has changed his position
and would be willing to allow a 10 or 15 percent increase in density for
PUDs. It was his understanding the discussion is on clustered housing,
as opposed to the PUD concept of more than one use on a parcel. He also
envisioned houses clustered closer together on large deep lots creating
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - March 6, 1996
Page 11
(Planned Unit Development Discussion, Continued)
the open space behind. Many of the lot width and setback requirements
would be flexible. Mr. Carlberg stated the PUD ordinance would refer to
both types of developments, clustered housing with flexibility on
density and multiple uses on a parcel. He will also be sure a PUD of
clustered housing does not automatically permit multiple uses on the
property. The criteria for each type of development will have to be
clearly defined.
Councilmember Knight suggested a density increase be based on acreage.
Ten acres would allow 1 more unit; 20 acres would allow 2 more; 30 acres
would allow 3 more units, etc. He felt clustering on PUDs would have
some attraction because there are less costs involved to the developer
and that there would be an advantage to having a large community lawn.
Would the green space be untouched or improved? Mr. Carlberg stated
normally they are left natural, but the City has the option to do other
things. The care and maintenance of the green spaces would probably be
done by an association. It would also have to be protected from further
development by covenants. He will continue working on a PUD ordinance
or zoning ordinance amendment that will allow some density increase.
The Council agreed.
CHANGE STATUS/MECHANIC
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Kunza, to move as presented. (change the
temporary part-time status of the mechanic to full time) DISCUSSION:
Councilmember Jacobson was concerned that a lot of people have been
added to the City's Staff the last few years. He suggested Staff look
at turning this into a profit center for the City. Once Staff has
caught up on the City's work, look at doing work for other cities as a
means of bringing in revenue for the position and to the City. He would
not be opposed to this proposal if by the end of the year it can be
shown there is some other source of income from that position.
Frank Stone, Public Works Superintendent, pointed out the hourly rate in
the Council's memo is incorrect. It should be $14.32. If this person
can become full time for the rest of the year, he can talk with the
other cities to determine if there is a need. Right now there is enough
work in the City to keep this person busy. If there is an opportunity
to hire out, he will do it. Motion carried unanimously.
ORDER PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS/IP96-6/MISCELLANEOUS CONCRETE CURB AND
GUTTER REPAIR
Mr. Erickson explained in the past this has been done as routine
maintenance. As the City is getting older, there are more and more
curbs that need to be replaced. Staff is proposing to get bids to get
a lower price on this work. Preparing final plans and specifications is
the process to obtain those bids.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - March 6, 1996
Page 12
(Plans & Specs/IP96-6/Misc. Concrete Curb & Gutter Repair, Continued)
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, to move approval. (See Resolutioll
R051-96 ordering the improvement of miscellaneous concrete curb and
gutter, Project No. 96-6, and directing preparation of final plans and
specifications) Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
The Council meeting was adjourned to hold an EDA meeting, 10:10;
reconvened at 10:20 p.m.
UPDATE ON METROPOLITAN COUNCIL
Mr. Fursman reported on the meeting of City Staff and the Mayor with
Metropolitan Council representatives on the data collected on Andover's
Septic Systems. Though the City had information on only 50 percent of
the systems that had failed, the Met Council Staff was willing to report
that the City had cooperated to the best of its ability in providing
data. No conclusions have been made from the study, and it doesn't
appear that the study was looking for a causal relationship between
water quality and health concerns and septic system failures. Secondly,
they have said that the City's request for a Major Amendment to the
Comprehensive Plan is incomplete. The Transportation Study is
incomplete because there is no indication the City acknowledged that it
accepted the report as submitted. He will be sending a letter that
recognizes that the City does support the report and found the
conclusions to be valid.
Mr. Fursman also noted a concern raised earlier this evening while
discussing a lift station in Shadowbrook was using them to be able
develop beyond the City's MUSA boundary. The City will be limited to
the MUSA area unless it is given an increase in sewer capacity. When
submitting the request for the Comprehensive Plan Major Amendment, the
City used the actual sewer flow figures. Met Council Staff has asked
that their estimated figures be used instead, which are higher than the
actual figures. Mr. Carlberg understood that once those comments in the
letter from the Met Council Staff are addressed, the 60-day time period
will begin for approval of the request.
PERSONAL COMMUNICATION DEVICE TOWER UPDATE
Jeff Johnson, Planning Department, explained the need to prepare an
ordinance regulating the construction of antenna and support towers for
the newest generation of wireless telecommunication technology. The
City has already received inquires on using the City's water towers on
which to place antennas. In reviewing regulations from other
communities, most require antennas and towers to be placed on public or
city property and to obtain a Special Use Permit and building permit.
The telecommunications company would also pay an annual fee which would
be set by the City.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - March 6, 1996
Page 13
(PCD Tower Update, Continued)
Councilmember Jacobson stated more and more of the antennas and towers
will be installed for personal communicators. He preferred an ordinance
that would require them to be located on public property and that the
City would charge rent for them. If the City must allow them, the City
should benefit by receiving revenues which in turn can help keep taxes
down for the residents. Councilmember Dehn was also concerned with the
aesthetics if too many towers are constructed. Mr. Carlberg stated that
can also be explored. Council agreed Staff should continue preparing
the regulations on the placement of antennas and towers.
APPROVE HIRING OF TWO TEMPORARY BUILDING ATTENDANTS/FIELD OF DREAMS
Mr. Erickson explained the duties of the attendants would be to sell
concessions, open and close the concession building, sweep floors and do
general cleaning. He anticipated a janitorial service would be
contracted to do the more detailed maintenance. Todd Haas, the City's
Park Coordinator, will supervise the position and be responsible for
stocking the concession stand.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, that we authorize the hiring of
two temporary part-time building attendants for the operation of the
concession building at the City Hall Park Complex #2 for the summer,
1996, at an hourly rate of $7 per hour with no benefits; that their pay
comes from the "profits" from the concession sales at the building.
DISCUSSION: Mr. Erickson explained people can bring in their own food
and drink, though alcohol is not allowed. The concession building will
have a refrigerator to keep beverages cold and will sell chips and
candy. There will be no heated foods such as hot dogs or hamburgers. Ie
is proposed that inventory will be taken daily. The entire program will
be re-evaluated for the 1997 season. Motion carried unanimously.
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
Minµtes of Closed Meetings - Councilmember Jacobson had read that by law
Meeting Minutes of Executive Sessions must be safely sealed away.
Attorney Hawkins was not aware of any legal procedure that the Minutes
have to be sealed. The City must take reasonable steps to make sure no
one has access to them, and the City is doing that. Mr. Fursman
concurred they are left in the vault until the issue is resolved.
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Kunza, to approve payment of Claims in the
amount of $222,489.96. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Kunza, Seconded by Dehn, to adjourn. Motion carried
)~.nan:::;:;:.~ ~~::;~ ¡was adjourned at 11:10 p,m.
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arc~lla A. Peach, Recording Secretary