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CITY of ANDOVER
1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304. (612) 755-5100
Regular City Council Meeting - July 16, 1996 agenda
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Call to Order - 7:00 pm
Resident Forum
Agenda Approval
Consent Agenda
Approval of Minutes minutes
Discussion Item
1. Metropolitan Council/Growth OptionslDick Thompson metcouncil
2. Public Hearing/Ordinance Establishing 90-day Moratorium/MUSA moratorium
3. Discuss Possible Sidewalk/95-23/Woodland Terrace sidewalk
4. Discuss Drainage/95-14/Crooked Lake Blvd. NW, Cont. drainage
5. Award Bid/95-14/Crooked Lake Blvd. NW, Cont. bid9514
6. Approve Preliminary PlatlIndian Meadows 4th Addition inmead4
7. Approve Preliminary Plat/Hunter's Hollow hunterho
8. Approve SUP/Sign/Hunters Hollow sup
9. Public Works Building Discussion publicworks
10. Approve Wetland Buffer Ordinance wetland
11. Anoka County HRNTax Levy hra
EDA Meeting
12. Purchase of Wilber Auto Parts wilber
13. Deposit on Charles Mistelske Parcel mistelske
14. Deposit on Richard Heidelberger Duplex heidelberger
Reports of Staff. Committees. Commission
15. Approve Temporary Non-Intoxicating Liquor License/Sno-dragons liquor
Non-Discussion/Consent Items
16. Award Bid/94-33/Commercial Blvd. NW bid9433
17. Award Bid/93-17/Crown Pointe bid9317
18. Approve Feasibility Report/96-14/14210 Crosstown Blvd. NW feas9614
19. Approve Amendment to Development Policy Guidelines policy
20. Approve Slurry Seal Maintenance Project slurry
21. Order Plans & Specs/96-8/Miscellaneous Bituminous Park Trails order968
22. Approve Plans & Specs/96-8/Miscellaneous Bituminous Park Trails appr968
23. Approve QuoteslBasketball Hoops/Creekview Crossing and Sunshine Park hoops
24. Approve PurchaseIDigital Planimeter digital
25. Approve Kennel License Renewal kennel
26. Appoint Election Judges/Primary Election election
27. Ordinance 102 Amendment ordinance
28. ICMA Conference icma
29. Approve Animal Control Contract animal
30. Flag Contest Judging flag
Mayor-Council Input
Payment of Claims
Adjournment
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REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES - JULY 110, 1996
TABLE OF CONTENTS
AGENDA APPROVAL . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
CONSENT AGENDA
Resolution R131-96 awarding bid/IP94-33/Commercial Blvd · · 1
Resolution R132-96 awarding bid/IP93-17/Crown pointe · · · · 1
Resolution R133-96 approving feasibility/IP96-14/14210
Crosstown Boulevard · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
Approve slurry seal maintenance project · · · · · · 1
Resolution R134-96 ordering plans and specs/IP96-S/miscellaneous
bituminous park trails · · · · · · · · · · · 1
Resolution R135-96 approving plans and specs/IP96-S · · · 1
Approve quotes/basketball hoops/Creekview Crossing & Sunshine 1
Approve purchase/digital planimeter · · · · · · · · · 1
Approve kennel license (Dover Kennels, Rescue Saint Bernards) 1
Resolution R136-96 appointing election judges/primary election 1
Ordinance 102 amendment · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
ICMA conference/City Administrator · · · · · · · · · · 1
Approve animal control contract · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
Resolution R137-96 ordering plans and specs/IP94-33/Commercial
Boulevard/contaminated soil and debris removal · · 2
Resolution R13S-96 approving plans and specs/IP94-33 · · · 2
APPROVAL OF MINUTES . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
METROPOLITAN COUNCIL/GROWTH OPTIONS · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
PRELIMINARY PLAT/INDIAN MEADOWS 4TH ADDITION · · · · · · · · · 3
Motion to table, dies for lack of Second · · · · · · · · · 5
Resolution R139-96 approving plat · · · · · · · 5
Motion to erect No Truck signage in surrounding neighborhoods 5
PRELIMINARY PLAT/HUNTER'S HOLLOW · · · · · · · · · · · · 5
Resolution R140-96 approving plat · · · · · · · · · 7
PUBLIC HEARING/ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING 90-DAY MORATORIUM/MUSA · S
Motion to approve (fails for lack of 4/5 vote) · · · 9
DISCUSS POSSIBLE SIDEWALK/IP95-23/WOODLAND TERRACE · · · · · · 9
DISCUSS DRAINAGE/IP95-14/CROOKED LAKE BOULEVARD NW · · · · · 9
AWARD BID/IP95-14/CROOKED LAKE BOULEVARD NW
Resolution R141-96 rejecting bids · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 10
SPECIAL USE PERMIT/SIGN/HUNTER'S HOLLOW
Resolution R142-96 approving permit · · · · · · · · 10
PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING DISCUSSION
Motion to seek quote/Adolfson & Peterson/Construction Mgmt · 10
WETLAND BUFFER ORDINANCE
Motion to approve · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 11
AMENDMENT TO DEVELOPMENT POLICY GUIDELINES
Motion to approve · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 11
PARKING REQUEST/GOLF TOURNAMENT
Motion to deny · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 12
JEFF NOVAK REQUEST (acknowledge withdrawal of request) · · · · 12
TEMPORARY NON-INTOXICATING LIQUOR LICENSE
Motion to approve extension to Pov's Sports Bar & Grill · 12
ANOKA COUNTY HRA/TAX LEVY · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 12
Motion to decline to participate · · · · · · · · · · 13
FLAG CONTEST JUDGING · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 13
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 13
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
City Hall project update · · · · · · · · · · · · · 13
ADJOURNMENT . . . . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 13
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CITY of ANDOVER
1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (612) 755-5100
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - JULY 16, 1996
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to
order by Mayor Jack McKelvey on July 16, 1996, 7: 00 p. m., at the Andover
City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmembers present: Dehn, Jacobson, Knight, Kunza
Councilmembers absent: None
Also present: City Attorney, William G. Hawkins
City Engineer, Scott Erickson
Community Development Director, Dave Carlberg
City Administrator, Richard Fursman
Others
AGENDA APPROVAL
Add Items l1a, Parking Request/Golf Tournament; Ilb, Jeff Novak Request;
31, Order Plans and Specifications/IP94-33/Commercial Boulevard NW/
Contaminated Soil and Debris Removal; 32, Approve Plans and
Specifications/IP94-33. Remove from Consent Items for discussion Items
19, Approve Amendment to Development Policy Guidelines; and 30, Flag
Contest Judging.
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Kunza, to approve the Agenda as amended.
Motion carried unanimously.
CONSENT AGENDA
Item 16 Award Bid/IP94-33/Commercial Boulevard NW (See
Resolution RI31-96)
Item 17 Award Bid/IP93-17/Crown Pointe (See Resolution RI32-96)
Item 18 Approve Feasibility Report/IP96-14/14210 Crosstown
Boulevard NW (See Resolution R133-96)
Item 20 Approve Slurry Seal Maintenance Project
Item 21 Order Plans and Specs/IP96-8/Miscellaneous Bituminous
Park Trails (See Resolution RI34-96)
Item 22 Approve Plans and Specs/IP96-8/Miscellaneous Bituminous
Park Trails (See Resolution RI35-96)
Item 23 Approve Quotes/Basketball Hoops/Creekview Crossing and
Sunshine Park ($2,145.63 from Minnesota Wisconsin
Playground, Inc. )
Item 24 Approve Purchase/Digital Planimeter ($750 plus tax and
delivery from Sokkia Measuring Systems)
Item 25 Approve Kennel License Renewal (Dover Kennels, Rescue
Saint Bernards)
Item 26 Appoint Election Judges/Primary Election (See
Resolution R136-96)
Item 27 Ordinance 102 Amendment
Item 28 ICMA Conference/City Administrator
Item 29 Approve Animal Control Contract
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Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - July 16, 1996
Page 2
(Consent Agenda, Continued)
Item 31 Order Plans and Specs/IP94-33/Commercial Boulevard
NW/Contaminated Soil and Debris Removal (See Resolution
R13 7- 96)
Item 32 Approve Plans and Specs/IP94-33 (See Resolution R138-
96)
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Knight, to approve the Consent Agenda.
Motion carried unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
June 18, 1996, Regular Meeting: Correct as written.
July 2, 1996, Regular Meeting: Correct as written.
July 2, 1996, EDA Meeting: Correct as written.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Kunza, to approve all three Minutes.
Motion carried unanimously.
METROPOLITAN COUNCIL/GROWTH OPTIONS
Dick Thompson, Metropolitan Council Staff, asked for feedback from the
Council on the growth options for the seven-county area. The Met
Council has been directed by the state legislature to plan how the
community should grow to the year 2020. Factors that have been
identified which will affect growth are the demands created by the baby
boomers, the expected shift in housing needs, and the shortage of public
dollars to build the public infrastructure. The three options being
considered are to develop at the current trend which covers the most
area and is the most costly, to concentrate development within the
existing urban area which covers the smallest area and is the least
costly, or to develop growth centers commingling housing with retail
businesses. It is expected, however, that a hybrid option including a
mixture of growth characteristics from each growth option is likely to
emerge.
Mayor McKelvey felt that the concentrated growth option is why most of
the people are moving farther away, creating the problems now being
faced. He felt the growth options should be either the current or
growth centers or a combination. Councilmember Dehn asked what thê
policy is going to be for agricultural property. She felt it is
important to protect it; because once the land is developed, it will
never go back to farming. Mr. Thompson stated the Met Council policy
has been to have a density of one for ten in the rural areas. That was
first proposed as a method of preserving agricultural property with the
thought that people would not be able to afford the larger lots;
however, that has not proven to be successful.
Councilmember Jacobson never agreed with the one for ten policy in rural
areas. He felt the Met Council has to be more flexible to prevent the
leapfrogging and to recognize that the northern suburbs are not the same
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - July 16, 1996
Page 3
(Metropolitan Council/Growth Options, Continued)
as the southern ones. He also felt they cannot force development and
housing styles through a centralized plan, which is one of the reasons
Andover did not participate in the Livable Communi ties Act. He
suggested the Met Council look internally at the conflict of interest
before voting. Also, they should provide mass transit to Andover as a
means of alleviating a lot of the transportation problems, thinkin9 many
people would take advantage of it. Mr. Thompson agreed the one in ten
density policy has not been successful and that the Met Council must be
flexible. He also acknowledged there is a big difference between the
northern and southern suburbs and stated that public transit will be
addressed. Creativity is needed to get people to use the buses.
Councilmember Knight had attended a conference recently which indicated
the Twin Cities areas has the third worst metropolitan sprawl in the
United States. It was also said that by the year 2020, it will be a
solid urban area from St. Cloud to Rochester. Given the fact that the
Metropolitan Council was created as a model for the nation to control
growth, he is troubled with those statements. Mr. Thompson stated the
Twin Cities area is the least dense metropolitan area in the country,
which relates to the transit issue; and to some extend, the Met Council
has failed. The Council has managed the sprawl but not stopped or
controlled it. The population projections do not indicate the urba~)
expansion to the extent projected at that conference.
Mr. Thompson asked that within the next week or two the Council send the
Metropolitan Council written comments, either individually or
collecti vely as a Council, on their opinions regarding the growth
options.
APPROVE PRELIMINARY PLAT/INDIAN MEADOWS 4TH ADDITION
Mr. Erickson reviewed the proposed plat of Indian Meadows 4th Addition
as being developed by North Suburban Development, which consists of 29
single family rural residential lots. Variances are being requested
from Ordinance 10, Section 9.06 A3 for lots that do not meet the minimum
39,000-square-foot requirement; however, the specific lots have not yet
been provided by the developer. The neighboring residents have expressed
a concern with increased traffic accessing Seventh Avenue and going over
the roads in their development. The intersection of CoRds 7 and 20 has
met warrants, but the county hasn't prioritized that intersection and no
time frame has been given as to when it will be installed. The existing
streets in the neighboring subdivisions were installed several years ago
and are in fairly tough shape. The concern is the additional traffi~
from the development could damage those streets at a faster rate. The
developer has agreed that all traffic during construction of the plat
will access from 157th Avenue. Also, temporary signs can be installed
for two or three years to limit the truck traffic within those
developments.
Ken Gust, engineer for the developer, stated since the public hearing
held by the Planning Commission, they have researched the exact septic
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - July 16, ~996
Page 4
(Preliminary Plat/Indian Meadows 4th Addition, Continued)
system area for each lot. Based on preliminary borings, the only lots
that will need a variance from the 39,000-square-foot requirement are
Lots 1 and 2, Block 5, and Lot 4, Block 4.
Bruce Kerber, General Manager from North Suburban Development, explained
they have hired a firm who is laying out each lot based on the design
for a four-bedroom home and preparing a detailed model with the location
of the septic systems. It is quite time consuming, so it will not be
completed until the end of the month. Without sewer and water, their
construction traffic will be minimal, and they will be coming irr of f
CoRd 20 rather than through the existing development. He has a personal
interest in doing a good job and appeasing the residents, as he ~~ill be
living on Lot 11.
Councilmember Jacobson noticed rock construction indicated at the
entrance in the grading plan. He also questioned the berm. He wanted
to make sure storm water from the plat is not being drained to property
outside of the plat, particularly the area to the north that has no
outlet. Mr. Erickson stated that is a temporary rock entrance during
construction so dirt is not tracked back onto the road. Bituminous berm
is the design for rural residential streets.
Mr. Gust stated all storm water from the plat is retained in the plat,
and none will go to the areas referred to by Councilmember Jacobson.
Councilmember Jacobson asked if something is being done to the beaver
pond and the line of oak trees which were referred to by resident'!
during the public hearing. He asked about easements to the storm water
ponds and the plans over the high-pressure natural gas pipeline which
goes through the plat. Mr. Erickson stated the pond is outside of the
plat. Trees will be protected under the Tree Protection plan, but some
are expected to be removed for the construction of 155th. The Tree
Protection Plan is not approved until the Forester inspects the barriers
installed for tree protection. He also noted that Public Works has
reviewed all accesses to the storm water retention ponds in the plat.
Mr. Gust explained no structures will be built over the gas line, but
the road will go over it. They have specific requirements to meet and
permits to obtain when crossing that easement, plus the gas company will
have inspectors on site while they are working over the line.
Sue Otterman, Indian Meadows - felt that because of the children and
heavy truck traffic, the construction traffic should come from 157th at
Xenia. Once development occurs, there will be more traffic on 155th,
and she would like to see stop signs installed. Why can't the traffic
be diverted out to Seventh Avenue from 154th instead of 155th? Mr.
Erickson explained the plat conforms to the original design. Mr. Gust
stated 154th would have to go through a wetland to access Seventh
Avenue, but he felt the traffic will likely go south on Eldorado as i~
will to go north to 155th. During construction, most traffic will gc
through Xenia to CoRd 20. The Council explained it is not legal to
install stop signs to control traffic, nor can they reduce the speed
limit. They did suggested that Public Works install "Children at Play"
signs throughout the development, which may help reduce the speed.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - July 16, 1996
Page 5
(Preliminary Plat/Indian Meadows 4th Addition, Continued)
The Council was reluctant to approve the plat until the specific lots
are identified that will need variances and Staff has a chance to review
them.
MOTION by Dehn to table this to the next meeting so Staff has ha1
further time to evaluate the variance information and come back with a
recommendation. Motion died for lack of a Second.
The developer explained only those three lots will need variances. They
have met with the Building Official, Dave Almgren. Mr. Erickson
suggested the plat be approved this evening with the variances on the
three identified lots; and if they find other variances are needed, the
developer will have to make a separate request for those variances.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to Resolution approving the
preliminary plat of Indian Meadows 4th Addition with the following
changes: Item 1, change to read: "A variance to Ordinance 10, Section
9.06 A3 for Lots 1 and 2, Block 5, and Lot 4, Block 4, that do not meet
the minimum 39,000-square-foot requirement subject to a report from the
developer regarding on-site sewage treatment as required and approved by
the Building Department for any or all lots prior to any grading."
After Item 5, add Item No.6, Subject to approval by the City of a Tree
Protection Plan and on-site marking. (See Resolution RI39-96) Motion
carried unanimously.
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Kunza, to include No Truck signage for the
roads in question, especially to minimum quality roads, on those roads
as deemed necessary. (referencing the already developed Indian Meadows
neighborhoods) Motion carried unanimously.
APPROVE PRELIMINARY PLAT/HUNTER'S HOLLOW
Mr. Erickson reviewed the preliminary plat of Hunter's Hollow, which
consists of 22 single family rural residential lots being developed by
Gold Nugget Development Company. Variances to the 39,000-square-foot
minimum requirement are being requested for Lots 2 and 4, Block 1; Lot
1, Block 2; Lot 1, Block 3; and Lot 6, Block 4. The variance originally
requested for the tangent section between reserve curves is no longer
needed. There was substantial public opposition to the extension of
Heather Street between 164th Lane and 164th Avenue, though the
construction of the cul-de-sacs on those streets were not intended to be
permanent. They are long deadend cul-de-sacs which greatly exceed the
ordinance requirement for maximum length. Public safety is the reason
the Andover Review Committee and the Fire Department recommended those
streets connect to this plat.
Councilmember Knight felt that to connect 164th Lane and Avenue with
Heather Street as proposed really puts a burden on two homeowners. He
didn't recall having a cul-de-sac removed before where the City
deliberately turned the existing lot into a corner lot. Normally the
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - July 16, 1996
Page 6
(Preliminary Plat/Hunter's Hollow, Continued)
extension of a temporary cul-de-sac will go straight through. On the
other hand, this is the only chance to make a connection to the east.
Councilmember Jacobson felt the lot and block numbers are confusing, as
there are two Block 3s in the same plat. He asked where the house will
be located on Lot 6, Block 3, in the lower portion of the plat.
Horst Grazer. Gold Nuqqet Development - stated that lot is very large
with the majority in the flood plain. The peat is extremely deep,
making the lot nonbuildable. It may be purchased by the adjoining sod
farmer. The lot originally started as an outlot, but the Council had
preferred it be labeled as a lot.
Councilmember Jacobson preferred it remain labeled as a lot. He too was
concerned with Heather Street. He understood the premise behind building
it, but he felt it doesn't make sense to place that road there. It
provides no purpose. He noted the septic system is shown quite a
distance from the house on Lot 3, Block 4. Do they have the penaits to
cross the wetlands for 166th Lane?
John Berq. developer's enqineer - stated that location of the septic
system on Lot 3 is where the suitable soils are found and the system can
be located to meet all regulations. The location is down hill from
where the house will be located. The watershed has given approval for
the plat. The wetlands will be crossed with 48-inch culverts. They
have reduced the total flow from the site, keeping it on site, so there
will be no flooding down stream as a result of the plat. In discussing
the split median at the entrance of 166th off Round Lake Boulevard, Mr.
Erickson stated the monument sign will be placed on private property.
The median is for traffic and aesthetics.
Councilmember Jacobson expressed concern with the sod truck traffic tha~
will be going through the developed neighborhood. There was also talk
of converting that area to a commercial driving range. That type of
traffic can create problems for the people moving in, so they should
know up front about the commercial truck traffic and possible
recreational traffic going through their area. Councilmember Knight had
the same reservations, wondering if there is a more logical entrance for
the sod farming operation that would be less bothersome for everybody.
Mr. Berg stated the layout of the plat didn't work out to allow the sod
trucks to use the existing path to Seventh Avenue. He expected that
farm will now use 166th Avenue as its exit. The bituminous on the street
is designed for garbage trucks, and sod trucks weigh much less; so he
saw no problem with the capability of the street handling the truck
traffic.
Mr. Grazer stated there is an easement adjacent to the north quarter
quarter that accesses Round Lake Boulevard, but it has not been
constructed. They have told the sod farmer that he can no longer use
the southern path as an access.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - July 16, 1996
Page 7
(Preliminary Plat/Hunter's Hollow, Con tinued)
Mike Ekstrom. 3040 164th Lane - noted the petition opposing the Heather
Street connection given to the Council from all residents along 164th
Lane except one family. He highlighted the six reasons listed in the
petition for opposing that connection. The plat gives the developer
three cul-de-sacs, which gives him a greater profit, at the expense of
them loosing their cul-de-sac. The people do not want the Heather
Street connection and the developer does not want it. The new road would
be 50 feet from his neighbor, who has two young children. He asked that
the Council not dictate to them what is best for them.
Todd Mickley. 3020 164th Lane NW - stated the whole neighborhood is
opposed to the connection. His property would be on the corner, wit'"!
the back of his house 33 feet from his property line. A road adjacent
to his property creates an undue hardship on him. There is a shed 10-
feet from the property line which wouldn't meet code if it becomes a
street, plus his neighbor also has a shed. His property wasn't laid out
with the intent of having a side street.
Another person from the development east of this area expressed concern
with the farming operation, as they are all tired of the trucks through
their development. It is not only a safety issue for children, but the
noise. The developer had mentioned that $250,000 to $300,000 houses
were going to be constructed in the development. He wondered how many
would like to listen to the trucks after investing that amount of money
in their homes. It was also noted that last weekend there were
airplanes landing on that property, which created considerable noise.
He also didn't think they needed another lake. The Park Board
recommended cash in lieu of land, but he thought this would be an
appropriate area for a playground and/or nature area. There is also
concern with the speed on 164th Lane to Round Lake Boulevard, as it has
the potential of becoming a speedway.
Further Council comments were on the possibility of widening the cul-de-
sac on 164th Lane to the permanent full-sized requirements, th~
possibility of installing "Children at Play" signs along 164th Avenue tc
reduce the speed of traffic, that a speed study could be done along
164th Avenue since there is no possibility of the speed being increased,
that it may be necessary in the future for the sod farming operation to
construct an access out the northern easement if traffic through the
developments becomes a problem, and that the bituminous on 166th should
be sufficient to handle the additional sod truck traffic. Councilmember
Dehn pointed out that the City's policy is to preserve farm land and
open spaces, but farming operations also create noise, dust and other
nuisances.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, the Resolution approving the
preliminary plat of Hunter's Hollow as presented with two changes:
under Item 2, the tangent section between the reverse curves, eliminate
completely, and change to "On the preliminary plat, remove the north-
south section of Heather between 164th Lane and 164th Avenue. (See
Resolution RI40-96) Motion carried unanimously.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - July 16, 1996
Page 8
PUBLIC HEARING/ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING 90-DAY MORATORIUM/MUSA
9:05 p.m. Mr. Carlberg stated Staff met with the developers on July 12,
and at that meeting an agreement was reached on the development of MUSA
properties within the 1995-2000 time frame. One of the reasons a
moratorium was discussed was to allow Staff time to create that
development program, which is now completed. Staff must still write the
policies and incorporate them into the ordinances, plus formalize the
development table and attach the policy statement to the Comprehensive
Plan. Staff is still concerned with the ability to handle plats as well
as write the policies and procedures.
Mayor McKelvey opened the hearing for public testimony, 9:10 p.m.
Bvron Westlund. 3318 167th Lane NW. Woodland Development - was concerned
with the fairness issue. The proposal is that preliminary plats be
processed by December 31 of this year for any development in 1997. This
moratorium would effectively shut the door on any development fOL
Woodland until 1998. The only plat that has been approved for 1997 is
Shadowbrook, which would given them the corner on the market with no
other competition. The development table was agreed to at the meeting,
which everyone thinks is workable. He'd like to work with that. To
expedite the matter, he suggested the possibility of not having to plat
all contiguous property. The sketch plan would show all acreage" but
the preliminary plat would only be for the phase they are working on;
and that would reduce the work load for the Staff. Another idea would
be to extend the preliminary plat process beyond December 31, possibly
to March 1 of next year. Or allow the platting process to continue as
it is now and possibly implement a moratorium in early 1997.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Kunza, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried unanimously. 9:14 p.m.
There was a lengthy discussion on the pros and cons of enacting a
moratorium. Mayor McKelvey argued against a moratorium, since the
staging of development to the year 2000 has already been agreed to by
the developers. Since a moratorium would apply only to urban
developments, and any plat to be constructed in 1997 must be approved by
December 31 of this year, he did not see a need for a moratorium the
first of January either because plats in the MUSA area should not b~
coming in at that time. Councilmember Knight understood the reason for
a moratorium was to free up Staff time to be able to plan for this
development, so he didn't understand why there wouldn't be a moratorium
on the rural plats as well.
Winslow Holasek stated new policies will be enacted which 2.ffect
development in the MUSA. That means that if a moratorium is not in
place until January 1, those plats to be constructed in 1997 will be
under the existing policies; and those plats constructed in 1998 and
beyond will have to meet new guidelines. He didn't think that was fair.
Jerry Windschitl, Ashford Development, stated the City has had two large
MUSA expansions in the past. The availability of the trunk and the
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - July 16, 1996
Page 9
(Public Hearing/Ordinance - 90-day Moratorium/MUSA, Continued)
market will drive how much acreage will be developed, and he felt there
is a fear that something will happen this time that hasn't happened in
the past. A suggestion might be to look at additional staffing for a
period of time, as all of that time would be billed back to the
developers so there would be no expense to the City. He stated a
January 1 deadline for plat approval in the MUSA area would be workable
on the assumption that there was sufficient Staff time to review and
process them. He questioned what policies and guidelines are being
considered. Mr. Fursman didn't think there would be any changes to the
ordinances unless the Council directs it. In addressing the fairness
issued raised by Mr. Holasek, he didn't feel there would be significant
changes in the procedures for 1997 as opposed to 1998 and 1999. Mr.
Erickson explained time is needed to clean up some documents, look at
the assessment policy, formalize the development schedule into a policy,
update the capital improvements plan for trunk sewer and water, codify
Ordinances 8 and 10, and so on.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, the ordinance as presented by
Staff with the change in the dates to begin January 1, 1997, and end 90
days thereafter and have Staff adjust the dates within this ordinance tJ
conform with that formula. Motion fails on a 3-Yes, (Dehn, Jacobson,
Knight), 2-No (McKelvey, Kunza) vote, as a 4/5 vote is needed on this
issue. 9:55 p.m.
DISCUSS POSSIBLE SIDEWALX/IP95-23/WOODLAND TERRACE
Mr. Erickson asked the City Council to consider the neighborhood request
of installing a sidewalk along the service road from Narcissus Street NW
east to Heather Street NW. Another alternative would be to cut through
a back yard within Woodland Terrace and through the Assembly of God
Church property. Residents and a representative of the church had
indicated a willingness to provide easement for a sidewalk. The Council
asked Staff to pursue the issue further.
DISCUSS DRAINAGE/IP95-14/CROOKED LAKE BOULEVARD NW, CONTINUED
Mr. Erickson reported the hydraulic study done by MSA Consulting
Engineers on the Crooked Lake Boulevard/Bunker Lake Boulevard
intersection indicates the additional discharge from the project to the
southeast corner property would raise the pond elevation 2 1/2 to 1
inches. It is already a marginal area with no outlet. Properties
affected are David's, Veiman's and the majority on Orttel's. Mr. Orttel
is not interested in granting an easement over the area to allow the
additional discharge. Options now would be to place additional piping
for the storm drainage which would impact the cost of the project, to
get the county involved, to stop the project about 500 feet short of the
intersection and do the intersection at another time or with the
county's improvement of Bunker Lake Boulevard, or to stop the project
altogether.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - July 16, 1996
Page 10
(Discuss Drainage/IP95-14/Crooked Lake Boulevard NW, Continued)
The Council discussed the options and noted the initial reason for the
project was to correct a safety problem at the intersection. Some did
not want to see the project done in two steps, as it would be a waste of
money and an inconvenience for the residents on two separate occasions.
Staff was asked to approach the county since some of the storm water
comes from their road, though it was recognized that any agreement with
the county probably wouldn't be reached this year.
AWARD BID/IP95-14/CROOKED LAKE BOULEVARD NW
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Kunza, to reject the bids for Project IP95-
14/Crooked Lake Boulevard NW. (See Resolution R141-96) Motion carried
unanimously.
The Council recessed at 10:20; reconvened at 10:27 p.m.
APPROVE SPECIAL USE PERMIT/SIGN/HUNTER'S HOLLOW
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, the Resolution granting the
Special Use Permit request of Gold Nugget Development, Inc. , to erect an
area identification sign of the entrance of Hunter's Hollow with the
change, second page, add Item 8, "The sign is not approved to be placed
in the road right of way. It has to be placed on private property."
(See Resolution R142-96) Motion carried unanimously.
PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING DISCUSSION
Frank Stone, Public Works Superintendent, has found that the average
cost per square foot for the vehicle storage area of a new Public Works
building would cost $26 to $35 per square foot. It has been determined
that four offices in the shop area are needed, for a total estimated
cost of the building of $1,000,150. He asked for permission to hire an
engineering firm to design this building.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Kunza, to authorize City Staff to
approach Adolfson and Peterson and ask them to submit a proposal for
construction management contract on a public works building and to
present the costs and the parameters at the next Council meeting for
consideration; and at the same time direct Staff to develop a financial
plan or plans for Council review, not necessarily for the next meeting
but within the next 1 1/2 to 2 months. Motion carried unanimously.
Attorney Hawkins stated there are no plans for the Mistekski building
that is being acquired which is located on the corner of Bunker Lake
Boulevard and Jay Street. The Council felt that may be a good place to
store Public Works equipment this winter.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - July 16, 1996
Page 11
APPROVE WETLAND BUFFER ORDINANCE
Mr. Carlberg explained the proposed ordinance will establish a 16.5-foot
buffer strip to protect wetlands through development and building
construction. Silt fences that are used to delineate the wetland
boundaries will be moved out to protect that buffer strip. The fence
will be left up until the landscaping is completed. The land owners
then take over and can do what they want with the buffer strip. This
ordinance does not impact the home owner.
Jerry Windschitl, Ashford Development, noted under Section 7, it will be
impossible to obtain a variance under Ordinance 8 because it is not
practical to show a hardship variance. Staff should have the ability to
look at this during the grading plan and decide as to whether or not a
buffer area should be disturbed. There are cases where the buffer has to
be disturbed for erosion control, grading or maintaining slopes, etc.
Byron Westlund, Woodland Development, noted in Section 6, the word
monuments is used, but there is no definition. Also, at a special
meeting with the Council, the developers discussed the size limitations
to which these regulations will apply. If there are smaller wetlands in
the middle of a back yard, the buffer strip could virtually eliminate
the yard. Once the property owner takes over, everything they tried to
do could be eliminated.
Winslow Holasek understood the protection is for wetlands, not storm
water ponds. He didn't understand why storm water ponds are required
since the wetlands are a natural filter of pollutants; yet now they must
filter the water before it gets to the wetlands and put it directly int~
the ground water supply. It makes no sense to him.
Mr. Carlberg felt it is difficult to set a minimum size to which the
ordinance would apply. Each would have to be looked at separately, but
he felt it would apply to wetlands of 1 to 2 acres or more in size.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, the Ordinance as presented with
the following changes on Page 4:
Section 6, Wetland Buffer Strip Protection Plan, first paragraph, Item
2, change "monuments" to "measures" (Location of wetland buffer
measures) .
Section 7, Variances, Sections a and b, reference to "Ordinance No.8,
Section 5.04" be changed to "Ordinance 10, Section 17"; and in Section
b, change "variance shall only be" to "variance may only be granted...".
Motion carried on a 3-Yes, 2-No (McKelvey as he didn't believe this is
necessary, Kunza) vote.
APPROVE AMENDMENT TO DEVELOPMENT POLICY GUIDELINES
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Kunza, to approve the request. (amend
Development Policy guidelines to include Urban Plat Street and Utility
Construction Time Table). Motion carried unanimously.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - July 16, 1996
Page 12
PARKING REQUEST/GOLF TOURNAMENT
Council noted the request of Randy Bromley to be allowed to use the
Hills of Bunker Lake 5th park to provide parking for the Burnette Golf
Tournament.
Mr. Bromlev - stated he is an individual party who is looking to provide
parking for the overflow of the golf tournament at the north entrance to
Bunker Lake park. He is not an official of the tournament. The Council
noted that it is not legal for an individual to use public property fOe
private gain.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to deny the request. Motion
carried unanimously.
JEFF NOVAK REQUEST, CONTINUED
Mayor McKelvey stated the item was tabled at the last meeting. Mr.
Novak has requested the item be withdrawn from consideration. The
Council verbally acknowledged the request.
APPROVE TEMPORARY NON-INTOXICATING LIQUOR LICENSE/SNO-DRAGONS
Mayor McKelvey explained pov's Sports Bar and Grill has asked to extend
his liquor license to cover the softball fields to sell liquor outside
during the Family Fun Fest while a band plays on the fields. At the
first check with Liquor Control, the City was told it could not be done,
so the Sno-Dragons Snowmobile Club requested a non-intoxicating liquor
license. On July 11, Brad Povlitzki from Pov's met with Liquor Control
and was told he could have an extension of a premise permit for ,
special event. The City Clerk has now verified that it is permissible
to extend the license. Therefore, the request of the Sno-Dragons has
been withdrawn, and Pov's is asking for an extension of the liquor
license for July 19 and 20.
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Kunza, to approve the extension of 1iquor
premise permit for the dates of July 19 and 20, 1996, to Pov's Sports
Bar and Grill. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-No (Jacobson) vote.
ANOKA COUNTY HRA/TAX LEVY
Mr. Carlberg explained the ci ty chose not to participate in the 1996
program of the Anoka County Housing and Redevelopment Authority. The
Council is being asked to reconsider, which would mean the City would
levy a special benefit tax for 1997 to fund projects of the County HRA
being done throughout the county.
Council discussion noted to participate would mean about a 4 1/2 percent
tax increase to the residents. They were concerned with the high tax
burden it would put on the residents and with how the money is being
spent. They asked for a breakdown of administrative costs.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - July 16, 1996
Page 13
(An aka County HRA/Tax Levy, Continued)
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, that the City Council decline to
participate in the Anoka County Housing and Redevelopment Authority
program. Motion carried unanimously.
The Council recessed at this time to hold an EDA meeting, 11:17;
reconvened at 11:18 p.m.
FLAG CONTEST JUDGING
The Council reviewed the entries for the Andover Flag Contest. The
winning entry was submitted by Marlee Riddle, 172nd Avenue NW.
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Kunza, approval of claims in the amount of
$2,580,005.36. Motion carried unanimously.
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
City Hall Project Update - Staff presented several proposed changes to
the new City Hall building. The Council gave verbal approval of
eliminating the false gable on the roof and instead put the money into
a domed entryway to be able to utilize skylight in that corridor. The
cable area should be reduced with some of the equipment possibly located
in the computer room or in the existing building. Reduce the size of
the coat rack and coffee room to allow for expanded office space. Extend
the sidewalks in the northwest area and in the back of the Council
chambers, plus landscaping. Staff noted some minor reconfiguration of
the Staffing area and the lowering of the windows to be able to view the
outdoors while seated at desks. They also proposed a permanent podium
in the Council chambers, though Councilmember Jacobson opposed that
suggestion, preferring to have the flexibility of being able to move it.
Staff will also explore the parking and possible expansion, though the
current parking lot exactly meets the requirements of both structures.
The drainage is to the east, and it will continue in that direction
after the new building is constructed.
Council suggested Staff look at the cost of placing brick around the
entire structure, both the existing and new building. Plus research the
installation of a community billboard for the intersection of Crosstown
and Hanson Boulevard. Consideration should also be given to sponsorships
or accepting donations for the sign.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, to adjourn. Motion carried
unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 11:56 p.m.
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M rc lla A. Peacti, Recording Secretary
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