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Call rder - 7:00 p.m.
eSldent Forum
Agenda Approval
Consent Agenda
Approval of Minutes
Introduction of Community Service Officers
Discussion Items
1 ,Snowmobile Update
2 . Public Hearing/Vacation of Easement/610-155th Avenue N.W.
3. Public Hearing/95-14/Crooked Lake Boulevard
4 . Major Amendment to Comprehensive Plan
5. Lot Split/SUP /Variance/17069 Crosstown Boulevard N.W.
6 .special Use Permit/ Accessory Structure/124 -170th Lane N.W.
7 .MSA Designation Through Crown Pointe/Crown Pointe East
8 . Coon Creek Walkway/Bikeway/Trail Discussion/95-24, Cont.
9 ; Hunter's Hollow Sketch Plan
1 0 .Anoka County Timetable/Reconstruction of Bunker Lake Boulevard
HRA Meetin¡¡;
1 1 . Reallocate 1993 CDBG Contingency
EDA Meetin¡¡;
12 . Approve Purchase of ATV
13 . Revise 1995 EDA Budget
1 4 . Approve Fund Reservation
Reports of Staff, Committees, Commissions
15. Walkway/Bikeway/Trail Discussion
Non-Discussion/Consent Items
16 . Kennel License Renewal/c. Nehrt
I 7 . Reappoint Tree Commissioners
18. Additional Parcels/Condemnation/94-33
19 . Information/Meeting Notice/Water Management/LRRWMO
20 . Order Plans & Specs/96-3/Cracksealing
21 . Order Plans & Specs/96-4/Sealcoating
22 . Approve Change Order #3R/93-7/City Hall Park Complex #2
23 . Approve Change Order #4/94-10 (Jonathan Woods), 94-8 (Foxberry Farms), 94-5
(SuperAmerica)
24 . Approve Change Order #4/94-9, 94-6, 94-7, Pond C, Pumping Facility, & 93-30
25. Approve Change Order #5/94-10, 94-8, 94-5
26 . Accept Right-of-Way /91-28/Service Road
27 . Approve Software/Building Department
28. Approve Purchase of Building Department Vehicle
29 . Andover Limited Partnership/Downtown Center/TIF
30 . Consider Finance/ Administrative Intern
Mavor-Council Input
Payment of Claims
Adìournment
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REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES - FEBRUARY 6, 1996
TABLE OF CONTENTS
AGENDA APPROVAL · · · · · · · · · · · 1
CONSENT AGENDA
Kennel License renewal/C. Nehrt · · · · · · 1
Reappoint Tree Commissioners (Click & Sullivan) · · · · 1
Meeting Notice/Water Management/LRRWMO · · · · · · 1
Resolution R013-96 ordering plans and specs/IP96-3/Cracksealingl
Resolution R014-96 ordering plans and specs/IP96-4/Sealcoating 1
Resolution R015-96 approving Change Order #3R/IP93-7/City
Hall Park Complex #2 · · · · · · · · · · · 1
Resolution R016-96 approving Change Order #4/IP94-10, IP94-8,
IP94-5 · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
Resolution R017-96 approving Change Order #4/IP94-9, IP94-6,
IP94-7, IP93-30 · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
Resolution R018-96 approving Change Order #5/IP94-10, IP94-8,
IP94-5 · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
Accept right-of-way/IP91-28/Service Road · · · · · · · 1
Approve software/Building Department · · · · · 1
Approve purchase of Building Department vehicle · · · 1
Consider Finance/Administrative Intern · · · · · 1
APPROVAL OF MINUTES · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
INTRODUCTION OF COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS · · · · · · · 2
SNOWMOBILE UPDATE · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
PUBLIC HEARING: VACATION OF EASEMENT/610 155TH AVENUE NW
Resolution R019-96 approving the vacation of easement · · · · 3
PUBLIC HEARING: IP95-14/CROOKED LAKE BOULEVARD · · · · · · · 3
Motion to table for a few minutes · · · · · · · · · · 7
ANOKA COUNTY TIMETABLE/RECONSTRUCTION OF BUNKER LAKE BOULEVARD · 7
PUBLIC HEARING: IP95-14/CROOKED LAKE BOULEVARD, CONTINUED
Resolution R020-96 ordering project · · · · · · · · 8
Motion for Staff to prepare Resolution on deferrals · · · · 8
LOT SPLIT/SPECIAL USE PERMIT/VARIANCE/17069 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW
Resolution R021-96 approving request · · · · · · · 9
SPECIAL USE PERMIT/ACCESSORY STRUCTURE/124 170TH LANE NW
Resolution R022-96 approving Special Use Permit · · · 9
HUNTER'S HOLLOW SKETCH PLAN · · · · · · · · · · · 9
MAJOR AMENDMENT TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN · · · · · · · · · 11
Motion to approve · · · · · · · · · · · · · 12
MSA DESIGNATION THROUGH CROWN POINTE/CROWN POINTE EAST
Motion to approve · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 12
COON CREEK WALKWAY/BIKEWAY/TRAIL DISCUSSION/IP95-24
Motion to table to next meeting · · · · · · · · · · · 13
WALKWAY/BIKEWAY/TRAIL DISCUSSION
Motion to table to next meeting · · · · · · · · · 13
ADDITIONAL PARCELS/CONDEMNATION/IP94-33
Resolution R023-96 ordering condemnation · · · · · · · 13
ANDOVER LIMITED PARTNERSHIP/DOWNTOWN CENTER/TIF
Motion to authorize distribution of $118,461.77 · · · · · · · 14
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
North Metro Mayors' Association meeting · · · · · · · · 14
Setting costs for construction of City buildings · · · · 14
Personnel Policy update · · · · · · · · · · · · 14
Performance of the Metropolitan Council · · · · · · · · 14
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS · · · · · · · · · 14
ADJOURNMENT . · · · · · · · · · · 14
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CITY of ANDOVER
1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304 . (612) 755-5100
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - FEBRUARY 6, 1996
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to
order by Mayor Jack McKelvey on February 6, 1996, 7:00 p.m., at the
Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmembers present: Dehn, Jacobson, Knight, Kunza
Councilmembers absent: None
Also present: City Attorney, William G. Hawkins
City Engineer, Scott Erickson
City Planning Director, Dave Carlberg
City Administrator, Richard Fursman
Others
AGENDA APPROVAL
Move Items 18, Additional Parcels/Condemnation/IP94-33, and 29, Andover
Limited Partnership/Downtown Center/TIF, to Discussion Items.
MOTION by Kunza, Seconded by Dehn, to approve the Agenda as amended.
Motion carried unanimously.
CONSENT AGENDA
Item 16 Kennel License Renewal/C. Nehrt
Item 17 Reappoint Tree Commissioners (Click & Sullivan)
Item 19 Information/Meeting Notice/Water Management/Lower Rum
River Watershed Management Organization
Item 20 Order Plans and Specs/IP96-3/Cracksealing (See
Resolution R013-96)
Item 21 Order Plans and Specs/IP96-4/Sealcoating (See
Resolution R014-96)
Item 22 Approve Change Order #3R/IP93-7/City Hall Park Complex
#2 (See Resolution R015-96)
Item 23 Approve Change Order #4/IP94-10 (Jonathan Woods), IP94-
8 (Foxberry Farms), IP94-5 (SuperAmerica) (See
Resolution ROI6-96)
Item 24 Approve Change Order #4/IP94-9, IP94-6, IP94-7, Pond C,
Pumping Facility, and IP93-30 (See Resolution ROI7-96)
Item 25 Approve Change Order #5/IP94-10, IP94-8, IP94-5 (See
Resolution R118-96)
Item 26 Accept Right-of-Way/IP91-28/Service Road
Item 27 Approve SOftware/Building Department
Item 28 Approve Purchase of Building Department Vehicle
Item 30 Consider Finance/Administrative Intern
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Jacobson, to approve the Consent Agenda.
Motion carried unanimously.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - February 6, 1996
Page 2
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
January 16, 1996, Regular Meeting: Correct as written.
January 16, 1996, Special Meeting: Correct as written.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, approval of both Minutes.
Motion carried on a 3-Yes, 2-Present (Dehn, Kunza) vote.
INTRODUCTION OF COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS
Captain Len Christ introduced each of the Sheriff's Deputies and
Community Service Officers that work in Andover. He also noted he
received a call from Senator Wellstone's office that the City of Andover
has received a COPS grant of $75,000 to help pay for law enforcement
officers. He then explained the difference in training and duties
between the patrol officers and the community service officers.
Anoka County Sheriff Larry Podany then fielded questions from the
audience, explaining the City has increased its police coverage. There
are eight patrol deputies and eight community service officers serving
Andover. There are two cars marked with the Andover logo and one car
for the community service offices. Mayor McKelvey also noted it is the
City Council who makes the decision on the amount of police protection.
It is generally based on the budget and the need. He thanked the
Sheriff and others for appearing before the Council.
SNOWMOBILE UPDATE
Rick Erickson. 15017 Bluebird - updated the Council on the activities of
the Andover Sno-Dragons Snowmobile Club and the efforts they have taken
to solve the problems residents have been having with snowmobilers. The
Council acknowledged the work of the Club and thought they were doing a
good job, though there are many who are still violating the ordinances
and are generally being disrespectful. Councilmembers stated they have
referred those complaining to the hot line that has been set up by the
Club.
Mr. Erickson - stated the Club members have responded to every voicemail
call they received. They also recognize that they couldn't do it all in
the first year and that more progress will be made in the following
years. Enforcement of the ordinances has been frustrating, and they
have met with representatives of the Sheriff's Department on that issue.
Members of the Club have offered to donate a snowmobile to the Sheriff's
Department for patrol, but the Department has said they have no one to
ride it. The Club did appreciate the correspondence sent to all
snowmobile owners in the City, but he felt the most effective method o£
resolving the problems is to issue tickets. It has been found that many
of the problems are from residents outside the City coming to Andover to
ride their snowmobiles. Hopefully many of the problems will be solved
when they set up a trail through the City. He would not like to see
snowmobiles banned from the City at this time, as the Club is continuing
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - February 6, 1996
Page 3
(Snowmobile Update, Continued)
to work on the problems. Some communities have local snow patrols.
Their Club will be learning more about how they work and submit a report
to the Council. The Club wants to work with the Council and is open to
suggestions. The Council noted that if any change would be proposed to
the Snowmobile Ordinance, hearings would be held for public input.
Kevin Doucette - stated the hot line is monitored seven days a week, and
a club member tries to get back to the caller within a half day. Club
members have shoveled out seven driveways around Round Lake Boulevard.
One of the problems along that road is that the "No Snowmobiling" signs
were not installed until late in the year, and many people did not
realize a portion of Round Lake Boulevard is closed to snowmobiling.
PUBLIC HEARING: VACATION OF EASEMENT/610 155TH AVENUE NW
Mayor McKelvey opened the hearing for public testimony. There was none.
7:33 p.m.
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Knight, to close the public hearing. Motion
carried unanimously. 7:34 p.m.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, to approve the vacation of
easement at 610 155th Avenue NW as presented. (See Resolution ROI9-96)
Motion carried unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARING: IP95-14/CROOKED LAKE BOULEVARD
7: 35 p. m. Tom Madigan from Maier Stewart and Associates, proj ect
Manager, reviewed the proposed reconstruction project of Crooked Lake
Boulevard from the Coon Rapids City limits to Bunker Lake Boulevard.
Because it is an MSA street improvement project, no assessments for the
street are being proposed; however, the intent is to install the water
trunk line along with the proj ect. The proposal is to defer the
assessments for water until properties hook up to the system. In
addition, there are four parcels that are not hooked up to sä~itary
sewer, which would be assessed when they dó hook up.
Mr. Madigan explained they are recommending a 32-foot wide street with
a five-foot concrete sidewalk along the west side. Neighbors were
opposed to an eight-foot bituminous bike trail on the east side of the
street. A 38-foot face-to-face street width was also discussed, which
would allow parking on one side of the street. The issue of drainage
and flooding in the area of 135th was raised by the Staff. By reducing
the width of the road, they feel there will be less runoff from the
street, but some additional storm sewer is being recommended.
Charlie Veiman - questioned the specifics of the storm drainage. He was
told the pipe to the lake is plugged. Mr. Madigan stated they do not
intend to increase the size of the ponding. They will look at the
piping in the design stage. Mr. Erickson stated the ditch that runs
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - February 6, 1996
Page 4
(Public Hearing: IP95-14/Crooked Lake Boulevard, Con tinued)
from Crooked Lake Boulevard to the lake is an easement. They are not
planning to reditch the area. Public Works did remove the restrictions
in the ditch last fall so it now has a positive drainage to the lake.
That will be looked at as a part of the project. One resident felt the
reason for the flooding at 135th now is because the natural drainage
area was filled to build two new houses on that corner.
Mr. Madigan stated there should be little disturbance in the project
because they are narrowing the road. Any disturbed areas will be
sodded. Driveways will be replaced in kind. A concrete apron will b~
installed for each driveway. He also noted the cost for the 32-foot
wide option is estimated to be $619,300 and $662,300 for the 38-foot
wide option.
Mark Simeron. Bunker Lake Boulevard - questioned the wisdom of
constructing a sidewalk that dumps the foot traffic out onto Bunker Lake
Boulevard, which is a very dangerous intersection and which has nothing
to carry the traffic from there. There's also the issue of keeping the
sidewalks open, which can be a liability to the homeowners and the City.
He noted the street doesn't get plowed as quickly as before now that it
is no longer a county road. It is nice without sidewalks. They do not
want to live in a Minneapolis. He also thought at the neighborhood
meeting the majority wanted the bikeways on the other side of the creek.
Mr. Madigan stated a concern of the neighborhood was the dangerous
intersection of Crooked Lake and Bunker Lake Boulevards. The county will
not install a signal there at this time because it does not meet
warrants. Consideration is being given to creating right-turn and left-
turn lanes, flattening the grade, and constructing a median on Bunker
Lake Boulevard. They will be talking to the county about that
intersection during the design phase of the project. Mr. Madigan also
thought the residents were interested in sidewalks because of the number
of children walking to school. The City has all of the easements needed
for the project, including ponding; as it is anticipated the runoff will
be less because the road width is being reduced.
Mr. Erickson then explained the proposal would be to fund the street
with State Aid funds. They do not anticipate any expenditures that
would be subject to an assessment for the street. The proposal is also
to defer assessments for the water main and sanitary sewer until the
property owners request connection, which has been done in other
projects. The estimated cost of the water service is $5,350 per lot,
which would be deferred with no added interest until connection, then
assessed over a 10-year period with interest. The proposed assessment
for sanitary sewer is at the 1976 rate when the line was first installed
in that area.
Mayor McKelvey opened the hearing for public testimony. 8:08 p.m.
Garv Rolli. 2815 135th Circle - asked how far apart the hydrants are
located. Mr. Madigan stated typically they are on the corner of
streets, usually about 300 feet apart.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - February 6, 1996
Page 5
(Public Hearing: IP95-14/Crooked Lake Boulevard, Continued)
Mr. Rolli - asked if anyone contacted the utilities to put the wires
underground. Otherwise the poles will have to be moved back to make
room for the sidewalks. Mr. Madigan stated they will be talking with
the utility companies during the design phase. Generally they want the
wires to be placed underground.
Mr. Rolli - asked what the posted speed limit will be. Mayor McKelvey
stated it will remain at 30 mph.
Mr. Rolli - was concerned with traffic control at Bunker Lake Boulevard.
It is very difficult to get out of that area since the southern end of
Crooked Lake Boulevard was closed off. He also questioned the proposal
to bring water across his back yard to his house off Crooked Lak2
Boulevard. He thought it would be better to wait until the line is
brought up 135th Circle and to hook up from the front of his house at
the same time his neighbors do. Mr. Erickson explained a stub for water
service would be provided for the side yards. If Mr. Rolli needs water,
it would be available from this project. Mr. Rolli will not be assessed
for water until he chooses to connect. Even if he waited until water is
available from 135th Circle, there would be only one assessment.
Charlie Veiman. 13646 Crooked Lake Boulevard - has no need for the
water, nor did he care about fixing the street. He talked to a
representative at Anoka Electric, but no decisions or recommendations
will be made until Mr. Erickson talks to them about the project. He has
heard that the street was built in 1966; however, it was redone in 1976
when the sanitary sewer line was installed. So the street is only 20
years old. Why does it need to be rebuilt? Mr. Erickson stated the life
of a street is about 20 years. It is starting to get more pot holes.
The City is trying to do a few miles of construction or reconstruction
a year with the MSA funds, and the road is now at the top of the list.
Council discussion also noted that it is not known whether the City will
continue receiving MSA funds because that is determined by the State.
If the project is not done now, the funds may be designated elsewhere
and not available when the residents do want it done. One of the reasons
for looking at this now is because of the safety issue at the
intersection with Bunker Lake Boulevard. The decision was to look at
the entire street instead of just that intersection. If MSA funds are
not available for the street project in the future, the residents would
end up paying for the entire repair of the road. Mr. Erickson also noted
that the county has revised its schedule to upgrade Bunker Lake
Boulevard from the time period 1995 to 2005 to the years 2005 through
2010. If the City reconstructs Crooked Lake now and the upgrade of
Bunker Lake does not match with the City's grade at that intersection,
it would be the county's responsibility to match them at their expense.
Mr. Veiman - didn't think the exit to the lake for drainage is open, or
at least it wasn't open this past summer. Mayor McKelvey stated the
City has a drainage easement through there and will open it if
necessary.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - February 6, 1996
Page 6
(Public Hearing: IP95-14/Crooked Lake Boulevard, Continued)
Mr. Simeron - wondered why the road couldn't just be retarred instead of
torn up. He thought the cost of municipal water is considerably more
than to drill another well. Another concern is that those on the City
water system have many restrictions on using the water during the summer
because there are not enough water towers. He also thought the proposed
cost for sewer is $300 more than the actual assessment they paid in
1976. He was sure Anoka Electric would put the lines underground, but
it would mean everyone's lawns would be ripped up. The engineers and
Councilmembers explained it is wise to install the water main during the
reconstruction rather than take the chance of having to rip up the
street in the future. The sewer costs were taken from the project
worksheets. The reason for the water restrictions was not because of the
number of water towers but because there were not enough wells. The
City is taking steps to alleviate that problem. Residents will still be
able to water their lawns from their existing wells. Again, the water
assessment is being deferred until the property connects to the system.
Jeff Patrick. 2816 135th Circle - asked about the cost of the street and
the deferred interest. Mr. Erickson explained there will be no
assessments for the street costs because they will be paid for with MSA
funds. The City would carry the costs of the water main until the
properties connect. No interest on the deferred assessment is proposed
until connection, and the costs could be spread over a 10-year périod.
Mr. Patrick - would prefer a 38-foot wide street. He felt the street in
Coon Rapids, which is 32 feet, is very narrow.
Ms. Junker. 13503 Crooked Lake Boulevard NW - asked how much of an
increase will they see in their property values because of the project.
She doesn't want either the street improvement or the water. But if it
is done, she would prefer a 38-foot wide street. Mayor McKelvey didn't
think they would see any increase because they already have a street.
This is simply a reconstruction.
Wayne Patchen. 13423 Crooked Lake Boulevard NW - stated with the 32-foot
wide street, the people on one side will get more snow than the other
when it is plowed. The street would be too narrow for plowing snow with
the big rig. He'd prefer the 38-foot width to the recommended 32 feet.
On a show of hands, the vast majority of those present preferred the 38-
foot wide street with no sidewalks.
Diane Patchen. 13423 Crooked Lake Boulevard NW - asked about the
deferred payment. She also felt that sidewalks are not needed, but they
do need a traffic light at Bunker Lake Boulevard. Mr. Erickson
explained the deferred assessment and its payment over a 10-year period
after connection.
Another resident stated sidewalks are not needed along Crooked Lake
Boulevard because the children walk to Gladiola to cross to the school
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Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - February 6, 1996
Page 7
(Public Hearing: IP95-14/Crooked Lake Boulevard, Continued)
there. The children take the back streets to school and never go up
Crooked Lake Boulevard. It makes more sense to put the sidewalk and the
light at the intersection of Bunker Lake Boulevard, but not just a
deadend sidewalk. Mr. Erickson explained the City's Comprehensive Plan
does show a bikeway system, and the Council will look at a sidewalk
along Bunker Lake Boulevard when it is reconstructed.
Gavle Rolli. 2815 135th Circle - doesn't agree with sidewalks or
bikeways. Moving the bikeway to the creek area would make it more
accessible, and it would be more flexible than a sidewalk down their
street.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried unanimously. 8:45 p.m.
The Council discussed the project, expressing surprise that the
residents preferred the 38-foot width without sidewalks than the
proposal by the engineers of 32 feet with a sidewalk on the west side.
Mr. Madigan also explained the project will do one-half of the street at
a time, recognizing residents along the street and those on the side
streets will need an access at all times. They intend to keep thp.
residents informed and will try to put out a newsletter to explain the
project and to provide the name and phone number of a contact person.
A resident was concerned with the safety of the children during the
project, especially those who walk to and from school. Mr. Madigan
stated they may have to have specific guards in the morning and
afternoon when children will be crossing the street.
The Council felt that they should have a definitive answer from the
county on the upgrading of Bunker Lake Boulevard before acting on this
item. This item was then tabled until after discussion on Item 10,
Anoka County Timetable/Reconstruction of Bunker Lake Boulevard.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Kunza, to table this for a few minutes to
discuss Item 10. Motion carried unanimously.
ANOKA COUNTY TIMETABLE/RECONSTRUCTION OF BUNKER LAKE BOULEVARD
Mr. Erickson updated the Council on the results of a January 30, 1996,
meeting with Jon Olson, Anoka County Highway Department, Commissioner
Berg and City Staff. The reconstruction of Bunker Lake Boulevard from
Hanson Boulevard to Round Lake Boulevard is not in the county's five-
year capital improvement plan. If Andover wishes to move up the time
table, the county would consider it if the City will contribute about $1
million of the $4.7 million project. When the road is reconstructed,
they are looking at an 88-foot wide street, a four-lane divided highway.
In 1998 or 1999, the county is planning to reconstruct the intersection
of Hanson Boulevard and Bunker Lake Boulevard.
Councilmember Jacobson noted with a four-lane divided road, those coming
north on Crooked Lake Boulevard would not be able to turn left. Mr.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - February 6, 1996
Page 8
(Public Hearing: IP95-14/Crooked Lake Boulevard, Continued)
Erickson stated the county determines where the medians will be placed,
but the City will look at that during the design stage. The county will
not put a signal at that intersection because it doesn't meet warrants,
but it may be possible for the Council to put political pressure on th~
Commissioners to have one installed. It would cost over $100,000 for a
signal at that location. The Council expressed disappointment in the
delayed timetable for that reconstruction and that little road
improvements are being done in Andover by the county.
Because the county isn't doing anything until after the year 2000 and
because that is a dangerous intersection, the Council wondered what
could be done now to improve it. Mr. Madigan stated they will look at
the grades and will try to flatten it as much as possible to avoid the
problem of sliding into Bunker Lake Boulevard.
PUBLIC HEARING/IP95-14/CROOICED LAICE BOULEVARD, CONTINUED
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, to reopen the hearing. Motion
carried unanimously.
On a show of hands by those residents present, two were in favor of
proceeding with the project; eight were opposed. Councilmember Jacobson
thought if a vote is desired, a formal petition should be circulated.
Since the county will not be doing anything with Bunker Lake Boulevard
for five years or longer, he didn't think it was in the City's best
interest to postpone this project. The City has an obligation to
alleviate the safety hazard at the intersection, noting it will be done
at no cost to the residents. He again noted if the City waits with the
project, the MSA funds may not be available; and it makes good sense to
improve that intersection now to hopefully prevent accidents. He felt
the City should go ahead with the project now. Council member Knight also
was concerned with the safety of that intersection. Because it is no
cost to the residents, he felt the project should be done at this time.
Mr. Simeron - felt the project should be done now. He felt the Council
has attempted to find out all of the information and that it should be
done now that funds are available. He still did not want sidewalks.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, to direct Staff to draw up a
Resolution approving the street and water and sewer improvements for
Crooked Lake Boulevard as presented with no sidewalks and a 38-foot wide
street. (See Resolution R020-96) Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Abstain
(Kunza, as he is directly affected) vote.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, that we ask Staff to prepare a
Resolution for the next City Council meeting relating to the deferral of
costs for the water and sewer hookups for this particular project and
outline the parameters of the cost of those deferments and the times.
Motion carried on a 4-Yes, l-Abstain (Kunza) vote.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - February 6, 1996
Page 9
The Council recessed at this time, 9:30; reconvened at 9:38 p.m.
LOT SPLIT/SPECIAL USE PERMIT/VARIANCE/17069 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW
Mr. Carlberg suggested adding to the Resolution a condition that the
soil borings be reviewed by the Building Department for buildability of
the southernmost parcel.
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Kunza, to approve the Resolution granting
the lot split/variance/Special Use Permit to Alan and Edna Brunkow at
17069 Crosstown Boulevard NW as presented with the addendum that
includes the conditions indicating they meet the criteria of
buildability of the said lot. (See Resolution R021-96) Motion carried
unanimously.
SPECIAL USE PERMIT/ACCESSORY STRUCTURE/124 170TH LANE NW
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Kunza, the Resolution approving the
Special Use Permit request of Brian and Corrine Smith at 124 170th
Avenue NW with two changes: After the THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, Item
No.1, the first line, which presently reads "The intent is that the 34
acres south of the residential property. . . ", be changed to read "Subj ect
to the 34 acres south of the residential property...". Line three of
that first Item, change "applicant be combined..." to "applicant is
combined...". One additional Item No 6, the applicant said he is going
to use the large acreage only for his own use. Suggest Item 6 state
"The constructed accessory structure will only be used for the owner's
private use." (See Resolution R022-96) DISCUSSION: Mr. Carlberg
explained it is residential property and cannot be used for a commercial
operation without an amended Special Use Permit. Councilmember Jacobson
felt the additional condition prevents any commercial operation and will
eliminate potential problems with future owners of the property.
Brian Smith, applicant - stated he did not have a problem with the added
condition. There may be some training of horses and he may board the
horse of that trainer, but he will not run a boarding business. The
neighbors have said they are glad he is doing this because they do not
want to see development on the 34 acres behind them. Mr. Carlberg
stated that training activity would not be an issue. Some
Councilmembers questioned the legality of Item 6 but supported the
motion because the applicant agreed to it. Motion carried unanimously.
HUNTER'S HOLLOW SKETCH PLAN
Mr. Erickson reviewed the sketch plan of Hunter's Hollow presented by
Gold Nugget Development. It is zoned R-l with 22 rural single family
residential lots proposed and one outlot. Staff has asked that the
outlot be removed. Two temporary cul-de-sacs are proposed on the
northern parcel and two permanent ones on the southern parcel. The
developer has agreed to connect 164th Avenue and 164th Lane. The Fire
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - February 6, 1996
Page 10
(Hunter's Hollow Sketch Plan, Continued)
Department has recommended that connection extend north to the proposed
temporary cul-de-sac to connect the two pieces and for traffic flow.
That northerly connection may be a problem because of soils. The
Planning Commission has suggested the developer be required to notify
potential property owners of the turf business to the east and that
commercial traffic will be using those streets. The developer has showed
sketches of possible development of adjacent property to the east and to
the south. The developer is not interested in developing these parcels
as a PUD. A median in the access road to Round Lake Boulevard is being
proposed for greater aesthetics to the area. It has not been done in the
rural area in the past, but the Review Committee had no problem with it.
Jeff Leadens. 2776 164th Lane. Terry's Turff - stated he uses all of the
land to the tree line for sod right now, which encroaches into the
outlot. It will continue to be a sod farm. He would, however, like to
split the land along the creek line. One lot would be buildable; the
other would be attached to the sod farm. In a few years he would like
the area rezoned for a driving range. That would eliminate the truck
traffic through the neighborhood.
Horst Grazer, Gold Nuqqet Development - stated the northernmost
temporary cul-de-sac will logically extend to the east and connect
north. There are about two to three buildable lots in the area to the
east. To construct the road from 164th to the northern parcel is not
economically feasible and difficult because of the flood plain. The
soil borings indicate there is a considerable amount of peat in that
area. Mr. Grazer also opposed the clause to the development contract
which would require them to notify any future homeowners of the
commercial business to the east of the plat. He felt it is a marketing
choice that should be left to Gold Nugget Development. It could create
title problems, and the question is what would their responsibility be
for the second, third, etc. I owners of the parcels. They intend to build
homes in the $200,000 price range. They would be telling first-time
buyers of the sod operation, but it should not be a requirement of the
development agreement. It is a unique parcel, and they intend to provide
a landscaped median at the entrance and ponding on both sides of the
road if allowed by the Watershed for added aesthetics.
Mr. Leadens - stated if the City Council allows his property to become
a driving range, he would not be taking sod off any more. Traffic to
the driving range would come through the development.
Councilmember Jacobson noted several of the lots show the drain fields
within the setbacks. Mr. Carlberg stated they are not allowed in the
right of way, and they will have the Building Department check into
this. Councilmember Jacobson also noted that the streets within the
plat will go through pockets of peat in several places. If it is
necessary to float a mat through there, he noted the Council had
considerable discussion about that in the past.
Mr. Leadens = stated the deepest peat is only 3 1/2 feet through that
entire area. Councilmember Jacobson noted Lot 15 in the bottom section
seems like there is a lot of fill.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - February 6, 1996
Page 11
(Hunter's Hollow Sketch Plan, Continued)
Mr. Grazer - stated the majority of the lot is fill. It will be a very
expensive lot to create. In further discussions, the Council was
insistent that the first-time home owners be made aware of the
commercial development and that commercial trucks will be traveling
through the neighborhood. Attorney Hawkins explained the procedure used
in the past where the developer has the first-time home owners sign
certificates, which are then given to the City, indicating they were
made aware of the commercial operation adjacent to the development. This
would have no effect on the title.
Mr. Grazer - stated in that case, he is more comfortable with the
requirement and would comply with it. Council had no further comments
relating to the proposed sketch plan itself.
MAJOR AMENDMENT TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
Mr. Carlberg requested Council approval on the major amendment to the
Comprehensive Plan to include 1,315 buildable acres into the
Metropolitan Urban Service Area. He noted a correction on Page 2,
Section II, A,!., ".. .million gallons/day" should be ".. .million
gallons/year". Staff is aware of several map changes which will be
corrected before submitting the amendment to the Metropolitan Council.
Section VII on Page 8 has been suggested for staged development of
properties within the MUSA. He asked for Council input on those
recommendations. The Planning Commission requested the Staff try to
accommodate the request of Walter Laptuta to include 80 buildable acres
in the 1995-2000 time frame. TKDA has made that change in exchange for
moving another 80 buildable acres into the 2005-2010 time frame. All of
the proposed MUSA is proposed to be served by gravity flow.
Council noted the additional request of Jerry Windschitl, Ashford
Development, to include approximately 25 acres in the 1995-2000 time
frame. Mr. Carlberg stated the request was received after the maps were
completed. For purposes of the MUSA, the property is contiguous to the
present MUSA even though it is across the county ditch.
Councilmember Jacobson asked what authority the Council has to delay
development on a parcel within a phase to the fourth or fifth year of
that phase to avoid having all the acreage developed in the first year
or two of the time frame. Attorney Hawkins said the obvious thing to
look at would be whether sewer and water are contiguous to the property.
The Council can establish a maximum number of building permits that can
be issued each year. It can create a policy statement similar to the
statements in this section of the amendment to use as a guide. Mr.
Carlberg stated they will research this issue and come back to the
Council with recommendations as soon as possible. It should be left as
flexible as possible so amendments do not have to be made to the
Comprehensive Plan for minor changes.
The Council asked Staff to determine if a swap can be done to include
Mr. Windschitl's request in the 1995-2000 time frame.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - February 6, 1996
Page 12
(Major Amendment to Comprehensive Plan, Continued)
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, that the City Council approve
the Comprehensive Plan Amendment as presented with the following changes
in it: Direct Staff to include the property in the 1995-2000 requested
time for Jerry Windschitl for Parcels A and B; direct Staff to make the
appropriate exchanges of property for that; and direct Staff to make the
minor changes in the Plan in terms of words that are missing or need to
be changed which amount to minor corrections which have been noted
tonight. On page 8, first paragraph under VIII, Other Information,
change (200 acres) to (125 to 200 acres per year). Motion carried
unanimously.
MSA DESIGNATION THROUGH CROWN POINTE/CROWN POINTE EAST
Mr. Erickson noted another option from what was discussed at the
December 19, 1995, Council meeting for a possible designation of a State
Aid route through the Crown pointe and Crown Pointe East developments.
Jerry Windschitl, Ashford Development - stated if the MSA street were to
go across Crown Pointe East directly to the east through the presently
undeveloped property, he would be willing to provide easement through
Lot 1, which is about one acre in size, to eliminate the jog and provide
more of an "s curve" for the street. That would have no effect on the
buildability of Lot 1. Mr. Erickson explained the portion throu9h the
presently undeveloped property does not have to be constructed until
that property is developed. The State Aid designation will not force
the property owner to develop. It would take about 1 1/4 years'
allotment of MSA funds to construct the bridge, plus there is still
enough to do the Crooked Lake Boulevard project. The Fire Department
has always been in favor of a bridge across Coon Creek from a fire and
safety standpoint. Mayor McKelvey asked for a motion to support this
concept of building a bridge across Coon Creek using MSA funds and to
designate the MSA road as proposed this evening.
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Kunza, to so move. DISCUSSION:
Councilmember Jacobson expressed opposition for the following reasons:
1) The street layout is undeniably designed to residential subdivision
standards, not for a State Aid road. 2) To spend $500,000 of State Aid
funds for a $160,000 return is not in the best interest of the City and
not economical. 3) The State Aid funds could be used for maintenance on
other roads. 4) He felt the money is being spent to assist a developer
get through a tight spot. It would have been more economical to the
developer if the costs had been spread over the two plats. 5) The
Council must be careful not to set a precedent. What happens when other
developers come in asking for similar aid to build streets?
Councilmember Knight also had reservations. Another developer has
already approached him with a similar request. He also questioned
designating an MSA street through property when the owner has not been
notified. Mayor McKelvey explained only street construction funds will
be spent, not maintenance funds. It is also a safety issue for traffic
flow. The developer offered to float a road across the swamp, but the
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - February 6, 1996
Page 13
(MSA Designation through Crown pointe/Crown Pointe East, Continued)
Council discouraged it. It almost sounds like someone is trying to stop
the development. He felt the bridge is a very good use of the MSA
funds. In the long run, the City will gain from it. Councilmember
Kunza agreed. It will provide $160,000 that can be put back into street
maintenance. Councilmember Dehn supported the recommendation of the
Fire Department for an emergency route and to complete an access from
Prairie Road to Andover Boulevard. Though in principle she agrees with
Councilmember Knight, in this case she felt the expenditure benefits the
residents in the area and benefits the traffic on Andover Boulevard next
to the railroad tracks. She felt each case will have to be reviewed on
its own merits. Motion carried on a 3-Yes, 2-No (Jacobson, Knight)
vote.
COON CREEK WALKWAY/BIKEWAY/TRAIL DISCUSSION/IP95-24
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Kunza, to table Item 8 to the next
meeting. Motion carried unanimously.
The Council recessed to hold an HRA and an EDA meeting, 11: 25;
reconvened at 11:27 p.m.
WALKWAY/BIKEWAY/TRAIL DISCUSSION
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Kunza, to table to the next meeting. Motion
carried unanimously.
ADDITIONAL PARCELS/CONDEMNATION/IP94-33
Attorney Hawkins explained the reason for bringing the additional
parcels into the condemnation preceding is because they are needed for
the extension of Commercial Boulevard and the service road along Bunker
Lake Boulevard. Because of the expense, it is more economical to
combine as many parcels as possible into one condemnation action. It
will take at least 90 days, and in the mean time they can continue
discussions with the property owners. The service road will be far
enough from the county road so it will not be affected when Bunker Lake
Boulevard is reconstructed. The Mistelski parcel was appraised several
months ago, and Mr. Mistelski rejected the City's offer.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by McKelvey, the Resolution ordering
condemnation for right-of-way grading and temporary easements that are
necessary to be included with Project 93-33, Commercial Boulevard
Extension, as presented. (See Resolution R023-96) Motion carried on a
3-Yes, 2-No (Dehn, Kunza) vote.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - February 6, 1996
Page 14
ANDOVER LIMITED PARTNERSHIP/DOWNTOWN CENTER/TIF
Attorney Hawkins explained the conditions of the development contract
the City entered into with Andover Limited Partnership in 1986 for the
development of the Downtown Shopping Center. The difference from the
contract amount of $900,000 and what the City actually contributed i3
$118,000. The City now has a sufficient amount to pay that difference.
At the same time, the fiscal disparity money has resulted, and Andover
Limited Partnership has agreed to reimburse a portion of the original
amount. They are still making payments to the City and the City will be
coming out ahead in the long run.
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Knight, to so move (authorize distribution
of $118,461.77 made payable to the Andover Limited Partnership and First
Bank National Association). Motion carried unanimously.
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
North Metro Mayors' Association - Mayor McKelvey noted the next meeting
to be held on February 22 and invited everyone to attend.
Setting costs for construction of City buildings - Councilmember Knight
stated he ran across an advertisement for RFP for construction manager
that listed a maximum dollar amount for the project. It showed that
what Andover has done is not out of line. Councilmember Kunza wondered
if it would be more economical to look at the maintenance building for
Public Works at the same time the City Hall offices are built. Th-:>
Council suggested that be discussed with the construction manager when
one is hired.
Personnel Policy update - Mr. Fursman stated they plan to bring the
revised Personnel Policy to the Council the second meeting in March.
Performance of the Metropolitan Council - Mr. Fursman asked the Council
to fill out the report card that he placed before each Councilmember.
He will compile an average and send in Andover's response.
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Kunza, payment of claims. Motion carried
unanimously.
MOTION by Kunza, Seconded by Dehn, to adjourn. Motion carried
unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 11:40 p.m.
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M~cella A. Peach, Recording Secretary