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CITY of ANDOVER
Regular City Council Meeting - November 7, 1995
Call to Order - 8:01 P.M.
Resident Forum
Agenda Approval
Consent Agenda
Approval of Minutes
Discussion Items
l. Assessment Hearing/94-6/Hartfiel's Estates
2. Assessment Hearing/94-3/140th Lane N.W.
3 . Assessment Hearing/93-10/SuperAmerica
4 . Assessment Hearing/94-5/SuperAmerica
5. Assessment Hearing/94-18/Section 22
6 . Assessment Hearing/Delinquent utility Charges
7. Variance/14905 Crosstown Boulevard
8 . Amend Ordinance 8, section 4.05
9. Timber Oaks Estates Sketch plan
10. Approve preliminary Plat/Nightingale Ridge
11. WDE Agreement
12. Liveable Communities Act
13. Transfer of Agent of Record/City Insurance
14. Curfew Ordinance
15. schedule Date/Final Budget Review
Non-Discussion Items
16. Approve Quotes/City Hall Survey
17. Accept Easement/Malmi/155th Avenue
18. Accept Petition/SS & WM/95-25/1529-148th Lane N.W.
19. Receive Feasibility Report/95-25/1529 - 148th Lane N.W.
20. G.O. Improvement Bond of 1985 Call
2l. Escrow Release/Reduction/Good Value Homes
22. Approve Final payment/95-17/1995 Pavement Markings
23. Release Letter of Credit/Hidden Creek East 3rd Addition
24. Approve Change Order #3/Fox Woods/Hartfiel's/Sharon's 2nd
25. Approve Change Order #3/Crown pointe East/94-22
26. Approve Quotes/public Works Fencing
27. Approve House Burn/7th Avenue & C.?" 116
28. Accept Easement/Lot 6, Block 10, Hills of Bunker Lk. 5th
29. Approve CO. #4 (Compensatingl/Bunker Lake Blvd. Frontage Rd/
93-30
30. Approve Final payment/Bunker Lake Blvd. Frontage Rd/93-30
3l. Approve Professional Services For well #4 Pump Test/Required
for wellhead Protection Plan
32. Approve CO #3/Jonathan Woods (94-10)/Foxberry Farms (94-8)/
SuperAmerica Addition Watermain (94-5)
33. Approve CO #7/Hills of Bunker Lake 5th Addn/#93-12
34. Approve Quotes/preliminary Soil Borings/City Hall/94-30
Mayor/Council Input
Payment of Claims
Adjournment
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TABLE OF CONTENTS
RESIDENT FORUM . . · · · · · · · · · · 1
PRESENTATION FROM ANDOVER LIONS · · · · · · · · · · · 2
AGENDA APPROVAL . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
CONSENT AGENDA
Approve quotes/City Hall survey · · · · · · · · · 2
Accept easement/Malmi/155th Avenue · · · · · · · · 2
Resolution R234-95 accepting petition/sanitary sewer and
watermain/IP95-25/1529 148th Lane · · · · · · · · 2
Resolution R235-95 receiving feasibility/IP95-25 · · · · 2
Resolution R236-95 calling GO Improvement bond of 1985 · · · 2
Escrow release/reduction/Good Value Homes · · · · · · 2
Resolution R237-95 approving final payment/IP95-17/1995
pavement markings · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
Release Letter of Credit/Hidden Creek East 3rd · · · · · 2
Approve quotes/Public Works fencing · · · · · · · 2
Approve house burn/Seventh Avenue & CoRd 116 · · · · · 2
Accept easement/Lot 6, Block 10, Hills of Bunker Lake 5th 2
Resolution R238-95 approving Change Order #4 (Compensating)/
Bunker Lake Boulevard Frontage Road/IP93-30 · · · · · · 2
Resolution R239-95 approving final payment/IP93-30 · · · · 2
Approve professional services for Well #4 pump test · · 3
Resolution R240-95 approving Change Order #3/Jonathan Woods
(IP94-20/Foxberry Farms (IP94-8)/SuperAmerica Watermain
(IP94-5) · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 3
Approve quotes/preliminary soil borings/City Hall/IP94-30 · · 3
APPROVAL OF MINUTES . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 3
ASSESSMENT HEARING/IP94-6/HARTFIEL'S ESTATES · · · · · · 3
Resolution R241-95 adopting assessment roll · · · · · · · 7
ASSESSMENT HEARING/IP94-3/140TH LANE NW
Resolution R242-95 adopting assessment roll · · · · · · · 7
ASSESSMENT HEARING/IP93-10/SUPERAMERICA
Resolution R243-95 adopting assessment roll · · · 8
ASSESSMENT HEARING/IP94-5/SUPERAMERICA
Resolution R244-95 adopting assessment roll · · · · 8
ASSESSMENT HEARING/IP94-18/SECTION 22
Resolution R245-95 adopting assessment roll · · · · · · 8
ASSESSMENT HEARING/DELINQUENT UTILITY CHARGES
Resolution R246-95 adopting assessment roll · · · · 8
VARIANCE/14905 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD
Resolution R247-95 approving variance · · · · · · · · · · · 9
ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE 8, SECTION 4.05
Motion to approve amendment · · · · · · · · · · · · 9
TIMBER OAKS ESTATES SKETCH PLAN · · · · · · · · · · · 9
PRELIMINARY PLAT/NIGHTINGALE RIDGE
Resolution R248-95 approving preliminary plat · · · · · · 11
WDE AGREEMENT . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 11
Motion to table · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 12
LIVEABLE COMMUNITIES ACT · · · · · · · · · · · · 12
Motion to approve (dies for lack of a Second) · · · · · · 13
TRANSFER OF AGENT OF RECORD/CITY INSURANCE · · · · · · · 13
CURFEW ORDINANCE
Motion to direct Staff to draft ordinance · · · · · 15
SKETCH DATE/FINAL BUDGET REVIEW (Special Meeting/November 15) · · 15
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EXPANSION BOX - TELEPHONE SYSTEM
Motion to approve purchase . · · · . · · · · . · · · . 15
CHANGE ORDER #3/FOX WOODS/HARTFIEL' S/SHARON' S 2ND/POND "C" /BUNKER
LAKE BOULEVARD SERVICE ROAD
Resolution R249-95 approving change order . · · 15
CHANGE ORDER #3/CROWN POINT EAST/IP94-22
Resolution R250-95 approving change order · · · · · 15
CHANGE ORDER #7/HILLS OF BUNKER LAKE 5TH ADDITION/IP93-12
Resolution R251-95 approving change order · · · · · · 16
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS . . . . . . · · · · · · · · · 16
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
Maintenance in Senior Center · · · · . · · · · · · 16
ADJOURNMENT . . . . . . . . · · . · . · · · · . · · 16
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CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - NOVEMBER 7, 1995
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of. the Andover City Council was called to
order by Mayor Jack McKelvey on November 7, 1995, 8:01 p.m., at th0
Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmembers present: Dehn, Knight, Kunza
Councilmember absent: Jacobson
Also present: City Attorney, William G. Hawkins
TKDA Engineer, John Davidson
City Engineer, Scott Erickson
City Finance Director, Jean McGann
City Planning Director, Dave Carlberg
City Administrator, Richard Fursman
Others
RESIDENT FORUM
Winslow Holasek. 1159 Andover Boulevard NW - noted at the last Council
meeting, concern was raised over the large number of change orders and
cost overruns for the various projects. He pointed out that again on
tonight's agenda there are five change orders amounting to an extra
$70,000 in project costs. He also detailed the cost overruns for
several projects that amounted to 13.5 to 23.2 percent increases over
the bid price. Also, there are change orders to be approved this evenin~
on the Consent Agenda that directly affect the assessment for Hartfiel's
Estates on which the public hearing is being held this evening.
Mr. Davidson explained change orders are generally for work done that
was not included in the original bid. Also, there were a number of
projects that came up during the construction period that had not been
anticipated, so existing contractors were used via change orders rather
than going through the entire bid process again. He then detailed the
projects done as change orders to other projects that had already been
awarded, such as providing sanitary sewer and water to McDonalds, the
extension of sanitary sewer to a homeowner, the curbing and bituminous
to the City Hall park road, the extension of sewer and water across City
property, the construction of the dump station for septic tank wastes on
the City Hall site, the handling of a maintenance problem in Hidden
Creek East 5th Addition, the construction of sewer and water across
Prairie Road once it was learned of the potential development of
Shadowbrook, the looping of the watermain from 140th Lane to Crown
Pointe East along Prairie Road to accommodate future development, and
the correction of grading around the Spur Station site and on the Kottke
property between Hanson Boulevard and the ponding facility. More sod was
used on the Hartfiel's Estates project than was originally bid due to
the very critical grades of the streets. Also, the Hartfiel's Estates
project was bid on the premise that excess fill would be placed on
vacant lots. Once on the project site, it was found the vacant lots had
a lot of demolition fill, so the excess fill had to be trucked to the
City Hall site. That too was done by change order. Another added cost
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to Hartfiel's Estates was bringing the bituminous to the property line
on all driveways to prevent erosion from getting into the gutters. All
change orders are discussed with City Staff during the construction
period. The costs are paid for by the benefiting properties.
Assessments are based on the actual costs incurred for the particular
project.
PRESENTATION FROM ANDOVER LIONS
Mayor McKelvey, as President of the Andover Lions Club, presented the
Finance Director another check in the amount of $10,000 to go to the
park fund. The total contribution of the Lions Club to the City so far
this year is $55,000.
AGENDA APPROVAL
Add Item 15a, Expansion Box - Telephone System, and Item 16, Executive
Session with City Attorney - Old is Gold Settlement. Also pull the
following items from the Consent Agenda and add to the Discussion Items:
Item 24, Approve Change Order #3/Fox woods/Hartfiel' s/Sharon' s 2nd, Item
25, Approve Change Order #3/Crown pointe East/IP94-22; and Item 33,
Approve Change Order #7/Hills of Bunker Lake 5th Addition/IP93-12.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, approval of the Agenda as changed.
Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Jacobson) vote.
CONSENT AGENDA
Item 16 Approve Quotes/City Hall Survey
Item 17 Accept Easement/Malmi/155th Avenue
Item 18 Accept Petition/Sanitary Sewer and Watermain/IP95-
25/1529 148th Lane NW (See Resolution R234-95)
Item 19 Receive Feasibility Report/IP95-25/1529 148th Lane NW
(See Resolution R235-95)
Item 20 General Obligation Improvement Bond of 1985 Call (See
Resolution R236-95)
Item 21 Escrow Release/Reduction/Good Value Homes
Item 22 Approve Final Payment/IP95-17/1995 Pavement Markings
(See Resolution R237-95)
Item 23 Release Letter of Credit/Hidden Creek East 3rd Addition
Item 26 Approve Quotes/Public Works Fencing
Item 27 Approve House Burn/Seventh Avenue & CoRd 116
Item 28 Accept Easement/Lot 6, Block 10, Hills of Bunker Lake
5th
Item 29 Approve Change Order #4 (Compensating)/Bunker Lake
Boulevard Frontage Road/IP93-30 (See Resolution R238-
95)
Item 30 Approve Final Payment/Bunker Lake Boulevard Frontage
Road/IP93-30 (See Resolution R239-95)
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Item 31 Approve Professional Services for Well #4 Pump
Test/Required for Wellhead Protection Plan
Item 32 Approve Change Order #3/Jonathan Woods (IP94-
10)/Foxberry Farms (IP94-8)/SuperAmerica Addition
Watermain (IP94-5) (See Resolution R240-95)
Item 34 Approve Quotes/Preliminary Soil Borings/City Hall/IP94-
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MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Kunza, to approve the Consent Agenda.
Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Jacobson) vote.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
September 19, 1995, Special Closed Meeting: Correct as written.
October 17, 1995, Regular Meeting: Correct as written.
October 17, 1995, Special Closed Meeting: Correct as written.
October 17, 1995, Special Meeting: Correct as written.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Kunza, approval of all four sets of
Minutes. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Jacobson) vote.
ASSESSMENT HEARING/IP94-6/HARTFIEL'S ESTATES
8: 30 p. m. Mr. Davidson reviewed the total estimated costs of the
project at the time of the public hearing versus the assessments being
adopted this evening. The total proj ect amount to be assessed is
$822,980.14. Gary Gorham, developer of Fox Woods immediately to the
east of Hartfiel's, had agreed to pay $17,500 for street and renovation
costs for five lots along Bluebird Street. The ten lots owned by the
Hartfiel's will each receive a full assessment of $13,293.39 for
streets, water, sanitary sewer and storm water improvements. The 45
remaining lots are being assessed $4,981 per lot for street and storm
water, plus a deferred assessment until connection for sanitary sewer
and water in the amount of $7,923.54. The lots within Sharon's Addition
will be assessed $13,668.39 each. Mayor McKelvey opened the hearing for
public testimony.
Tom Schiebout. 1425 Andover Boulevard NW - stated initially he was not
included as one of the 45 lots in the project and was not officially
notified of the public hearing. Mr. Davidson stated that is correct,
though Mr. Schiebout was at the public hearing when service to his lot
was discussed.
Mr. Schiebout - stated he spent time with Mr. Haas and Mr. Erickson
regarding his assessment. He brought to their addition the fact that he
doesn't have any added gain for street improvements because he fronts on
a county road. Staff has agreed to deduct the street improvement
portion from his assessment. He is now appealing to the Council to also
deduct the storm sewer portion of the assessment as well. He argued he
doesn't have concrete curb and gutter across his property. There is a
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pond on his property that they have now installed an overflow; however,
that pond has not overflowed since the early 1970s even though it had no
overflow. Since the construction of Sharon's Addition behind his
property, the water is drained to his property, with an overflow
installed to the west toward Hanson Boulevard. He is not a part of that
addition, and he doesn't think it is fair that he should have to pay for
something that does not benefit him or increase his value in any way.
Mr. Davidson explained when Mr. Heil originally owned the Sharon's
Addition property, he was advised that a plat would require a control on
the pond. When the county awarded the overlay of Andover Boulevard,
they were not aware of the City's project to cross the road with trunk
watermain and sanitary sewer; so an agreement was reached with the
county that the City would overlay that portion as a part of the project
and charge it to the trunk water project. Sewer and water services were
provided to Mr. Schiebout's lot. Staff felt there was a storm sewer
benefit to the property since the overflow provides protection from
flooding, even though it comes as a result of the additional development
to adjacent property.
Clav Heil. 14554 Bluebird Street - used to reside in Mr. Schiebout's
house and has lived in the area since 1969. Ever since, that pond has
steadily decreased in size. It used to be 12 feet deep and a swimming
hole; now it is nothing but a swamp. There is no possibility that ic
will flood and no reason for Mr. Schiebout to be responsible for any
improvement. When his mom owned the property, she was told explicitly
there would be no drainage problem. He expressed frustration with the
way people are treated in Andover by City Staff. His mother was told
there would be no taking of property, but was then forced to sell the
house. He didn't believe the City had any reason to cause Mr. Schiebout
to pay for something he has been forced into.
Mayor McKelvey stated he has been friends with the Heils for 15 years
and that pond has never come even close to overflowing. It's never been
very high, and he personally didn't see a benefit to Mr. Schiebout for
the storm water improvement. councilmembers Knight, Kunza and Dehn
agreed. They did not feel Mr. Schiebout should be assessed for an
improvement that was a direct result of development of another's
property.
Robert Pettit. 14607 Drake NW - now understood the main reason for the
overrun in cost is because of the interest change of $35,000. He
questioned the cost for filling vacant lots. Mr. Davidson clarified the
cost was to haul the fill to the City Hall site because they were unable
to put it on the vacant lots.
Mr. Pettit - didn't feel that much sod was placed in the project area,
and Hartfiel's lots didn't get any.
Mr. Heil - stated the problem he has with the overruns of the project,
including his driveway which he is ultimately taking care of himself, is
that virtually everything that is said but not written is not backed up.
He was told it would cost $3,500 to have the road done. Of course, he
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did not get it in writing, and now no one will acknowledge that that is
what he was told. Now it is almost $5,000 for curb and gutter and
asphalt. He felt that if a project is bid for a certain amount and
there are cost over runs, that is tough. He was told $3,500 for an
assessment and now it is almost $5,000, which is a 67 percent increase.
That is not right. He thought the City should take more control of
these situations and make the contractors responsible for their bids.
Wavland Carlson. 1459 146th Lane - didn't agreed with not being able to
prepay a portion of the assessment. Can the assessment be paid off
before the ten years? Mr. Davidson explained the assessment can be
paid in full within 30 days at no interest. Once certified to the
county, the assessment is spread over ten years at 7 percent interest.
It can be paid off in total any year with no additional interest, but
partial payments toward the principal cannot be made because the county
will not respread the payments. The street and utilities are considered
two assessments, so one assessment can be paid off and the other placed
on the assessment rolls if the property owner desires.
Mr. Carlson - asked the procedure and the financing when he decides to
hook up to sewer and water. Mr. Erickson explained the property owner
will still be responsible for the costs from the property line to the
house. Also, the connection charges increase yearly. Once hooked up,
those costs will then be certified to the county to be spread over ten
years at 7 percent interest. Many mortgage companies require hookup
before the property is sold.
Gene Paschen. 14632 Drake Street NW - asked if the interest on the
deferred sewer and water assessment is also deferred. Council noted
that decision has not yet been made. (At the end of the hearing, a
motion was made that the sewer and water assessment would accrue no
interest during the deferment period.) Once assessed, the interest
would be at the same rate as the street assessment, 7 percent.
Winslow Holasek. 1159 Andover Boulevard NW - had difficulty following
the contract award and the final cost. From the contract award, plus
the change orders, there is about a $40,000 discrepancy that he cannot
account for. Mr. Davidson explained the contract is awarded on unit
prices. They do measure the quantities of each item during construction
and prepare a final compensating change order showing plus or minus
quanti ties of what was estimated in the contract. Attorney Hawkins also
pointed out these types of projects are unit price contracts where they
bid so much per unit of material. The engineers estimate the quantities
because of the inability to come up with an accurate determination of
what it will be prior to the project. As long as the contractor meets
the specifications set out by the engineers, the City pays according to
the unit price for the quanti ties used. Mr. Davidson didn't believe
their estimates in the feasibility report were that far off. He didn't
know where Mr. Heil got the figure of $3,500 for an assessment. The
residents were clearly told at the public hearing that the street and
storm water assessment would be around $5,000, then reduced to $4,798
after Mr. Gorham agreed to participate on the costs of Bluebird Street.
The final assessment is within 5 percent.
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Mr. Heil - related his frustration over the increase in cost from what
he was told, of experiences of not getting support from Staff, of the
problems with his driveway and the problems he will always have with it,
and of his experience that one must get whatever is said by Staff in
writing or the statement is not backed up. He stated he has seen some
deplorable things going on, not liking the way the bidding works, not
knowing what is going on unless one is familiar with the jargon used by
Staff, and the lack of accountability by the City engineers. Mr.
Erickson explained public information meetings were held to be sure all
residents understood the project. They were told the streets and storm
sewer would cost about $4,798; there was no misinformation. He also
noted the engineering estimate for sod was 4,700 square yards. The
contractor actually put down 9,615 square yards, almost double. The
City pays the contractor for the additional sod. There was also
additional grading in the boulevards to match in the yards. The City
only pays for the work performed.
Mr. Heil - stated one change order for Hartfiel's happens to be his
driveway. It is about $4,500 of the $70,000 overrun of the project, and
it was a mistake created by the engineers. The problem is everybody is
paying for that mistake. Why should everyone have to pay for a mistake
made by the City? Why should they have to pay for a correction that is
done three times? He watched the contractors remove and change the
elevation on the storm sewer on three different occasions. It should
have been done right the first time. Mistakes or errors should be borne
by the engineer or contractor, not the property owners. Mr. Davidson
explained the adjustments to the manholes were required because of
corrections needed on the grading on the east side of Bluebird. Those
costs relating to the developer to the east will be paid by him. Th~
adjustment to the other two manholes are a part of the Hartfiel's
project costs. He again noted the assessment is within 5 percent of
what residents were told at the improvement hearing.
Mr. Holasek - pointed out the change order in Agenda Item 24 tonight
shows an adjustment to an existing manhole in Bluebird which is being
charged to Hartfiel's Estates.
Rick Odland, TKDA Engineer, explained there were four manholes that
needed adjustments. Two were outside of the street on the Fox Woods
side of the street which were set according to the grading plan for that
project. That grading plan did not meet the City's standards of two
percent boulevards, so that is why the adjustment was needed. The other
two existing manholes were installed when Bluebird was a flat dirt
street, and they needed adjustment when the street grades changed in
order to put in the blacktop. The costs were then split between
Hartfiel's Estates and Fox Woods.
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Kunza, to close the public hearing. Motion
carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Jacobson) vote. 9:45 p.m.
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Mayor McKelvey noted that though he was not happy with some of the
things that were done in the project, the assessment itself is close to
what the residents were told at the hearings. He didn't know where Mr.
Heil had gotten the $3,500 figure, but that is not what was said at the
public hearings.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, to officially remove Mr. Schiebout
from the assessment roll for storm sewer and street assessment.
DISCUSSION: Council acknowledged that the deferred assessment for
sanitary sewer and water would remain on the parcel. Motion carried on
a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Jacobson) vote.
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Kunza, to approve the Resolution as
presented, with the addition that the deferred assessments for sanitary
sewer and water would carry no interest until hook up, and once
assessed, it would be at 7 percent, the same rate as on the prcject.
(See Resolution R241-95 adopting the assessment roll) Motion carried on
a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Jacobson) vote. 9:50 p.m.
ASSESSMENT HEARING/IP94-3/140TH LANE NW
9:50 P.M. Mr. Davidson explained the feasibility report estimated a
project cost of $173,300. The contract was let at $139,231.03, and the
final cost is $171,552.05. The additional cost is for extending the
sanitary sewer and watermain past the centerline of prairie Road to the
east and for looping the watermain up Prairie Road and connecting to
Crown pointe East. The assessment per lot is $6,500.50. Almost all
lots are capable of being subdivided into two or three 80-foot lots in
the future. Tony Emmerich agreed to pay $12,085.90, the cost of
bituminous surfacing to the original width of the roadway. The City's
share of the trunk sanitary sewer and watermain construction comes t8
$159,693.82. As the seven lots are subdivided, the charges will come
back to cover this cost. Mr. Steele had already been assessed for
streets, so he is now only being assessed for the storm sewer and will
have a deferred assessment for sewer and water. The property owner
directly across from Mr. Steele did not have concrete curb and gutter
and will be assessed for curb and gutter and storm sewer plus a deferred
assessment for sewer and water.
Mayor McKelvey opened the hearing for public testimony. There was none.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, to close the public hearing. Motion
carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Jacobson) vote. 10:02 p.m.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Kunza, to move the Resolution. (See
Resolution R242-95 adopting the assessment roll). Motion carried on a
4-Yes, I-Absent (Jacobson) vote. 10:03 p.m.
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ASSESSMENT HEARING/IP93-10/SUPERAMERICA
10:03 p.m. Mayor McKelvey opened the hearing for testimony. There was
none.
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Kunza, to close the public hearing. Motion
carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Jacobson) vote. 10:04 p.m.
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Knight, the Resolution adopting the
assessment. (See Resolution R243-95) Motion carried on a 4-Yes, 1-
Absent (Jacobson) vote. 10:05 p.m.
ASSESSMENT HEARING/IP94-5/SUPERAMERICA
10:05 p.m. Mayor McKelvey opened the hearing for testimony. There was
none.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, to close the public hearing. Motion
carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Jacobson) vote. 10:05 p.m.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Kunza, the Resolution (See Resolution
R244-95 adopting the assessment roll). Motion carried on a 4-Yes, 1-
Absent (Jacobson) vote. 10:06 p.m.
ASSESSMENT HEARING/IP94-18/SECTION 22
10:06 p.m. Mayor McKelvey opened the hearing for testimony. There was
none.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Kunza, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Jacobson) vote. 10:06 p.m.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, the Resolution (See Resolution R245-
95 adopting the assessment roll). Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent
(Jacobson) vote. 10:07 p.m.
ASSESSMENT HEARING/DELINQUENT UTILITY CHARGES
10:07 p.m. Mayor McKelvey opened the hearing for testimony. There was
none.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Kunza, to close the hearing. Motion
carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Jacobson) vote. 10:08 p.m.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, the Resolution adopting the
assessment roll. (See Resolution R246-95) Motion carried on a 4-Yes,
l-Absent (Jacobson) vote. 10:08 p,m.
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VARIANCE/14905 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD
Mayor McKelvey noted that when the City rezoned the property to General
Recreation, it was believed the county was going to purchase this
parcel. He was unhappy with the way the county handled this situ~tion.
Mr. Carlberg explained that rezoning made the parcel a lawfully existing
nonconforming use. Prior to the GR zoning, it was zoned R-l, and the
parcel did not meet the size requirements for that zone either. The lot
has always been nonconforming since the adoption of the Zoning
Ordinance. He thought the owner felt the property is worth more than
the county was offering to purchase it.
James Martensen. 14905 Crosstown Boulevard NW - feels he is caught
between the county and the City. He knows the county purchased the
other two parcels to the north for what he felt was a fair amount.
After it was rezoned, the county couldn't do what they wanted and was
not willing to pay a fair price. Mayor McKelvey explained even before
the rezoning, the county would have been unable to do what they wanted
because of that zoning. Those lots were nonconforming before the G~
zoning. The Council generally agreed with the findings and comments of
the Planning and Zoning Commission.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, the Resolution approving the
variance. (See Resolution R247-95) Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent
(Jacobson) vote.
AMEND ORDINANCE 8, SECTION 4.05
MOTION by Kunza, Seconded by Dehn, approve the ordinance amendment to
Ordinance No.8, Section 4.05, Accessory Buildings and Structures (to
allow detached garages satisfying the minimum garage requirement to be
exempt from the coverage requirement of accessory buildings versus the
foundation size of the principal structure). Motion carried on a 4-Yes,
I-Absent (Jacobson) vote.
TIMBER OAKS ESTATES SKETCH PLAN
Mr. Erickson reviewed the proposed sketch plan of Timber Oaks Estates as
presented by Woodland Development. It consists of 25 single family urba:l
residential lots. The property would need to be rezoned from the
existing R-l, Single Family Rural, to R-4, Single Family Urban district.
Also, the property is not currently located within the MUSA area. The
Andover Review Committee noted the cul-de-sac length going north is 580
feet, which exceeds the maximum allowed of 500 feet. The Planning
Commission asked that the developer look at turning the road to be
brought out to prairie Road. The developer's engineer did look at the
site distance and found there could be an access at that point onto
Prairie Road. Double frontage lots are being proposed onto prairie
Road, but there is not much that can be done to eliminate them. Also,
there is a 120-foot jog between the north and south streets within the
development as they intersect with the east-west through street. The
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developer's engineer has presented a reconfiguration of that street,
which is before the Council for consideration tonight, to eliminate the
jog. The Planning Commission also expressed concern about the density
on the two cul-de-sacs to the north. Mr. Erickson also noted the
Council had mentioned the desire to look at requiring sidewalks in
future developments in the City. The Comprehensive Plan does show a
bituminous trail along both Prairie Road and Bunker Lake Boulevard.
Mayor McKelvey noted the problems with traffic at the intersection of
prairie Road and Bunker Lake Boulevard and suggested some additional
easement be taken along the proposed Lot 2 to widen Prairie Road to
provide for a right-turn lane. Councilmember Knight wondered if the
developer had considered a PUD to the north in lieu of the two cul-de-
sacs. He felt this would be a very good location for senior housing.
Bvron Westlund. Woodland Development - stated part of the problem is the
wetlands. Rather than put another entrance onto Prairie Road, Mayor
McKelvey preferred an exit to the north or northeast up to 140th Lane,
though he realized that may be economically unfeasible to do.
Mr. Westlund - stated the reason for the cul-de-sacs to the north was to
avoid another access onto prairie Road because of the safety and traffi2
issue with another access onto it. He did not know the location of the
houses to the north or what it would take to get an exit in that
direction. They do not own any of that property. Councilmember Dehn
stated though she would like to see another access, she is more in favor
of the cul-de-sacs than another exit onto prairie Road because of the
site distance. Councilmember Knight also preferred the aesthetics of the
cul-de-sacs, though he recognized it is more work for snow plowing.
Mr. Westlund - noted the Park and Recreation Commission has requested an
easement along Bunker Lake Boulevard for a bituminous trail to connect
Bunker prairie Park with the proposed Shadowbrook development to the
east. He thought sidewalks should go from somewhere to somewhere,
There doesn't seem to be any relevancy to placing them in this plat now.
Again, there is a wetland issue, and they may have to provide a two-for-
one mitigation to get the road through to the south.
Mr. Erickson thought sidewalks would be considered a part of the City's
infrastructure, not taken out of the park dedication fund. Sidewalks
would be installed as a part of the improvement proj ect, whether
bituminous or concrete. After some discussion, the Council did not wish
to require sidewalks at this time. They wanted to first develop a
comprehensive plan for sidewalks and develop a policy.
In discussing the jog between the two north/south streets, it was noted
the proposed revision to align them would not be desirable unless they
meet the east/west street straight on, not at an angle. Mr. Westlund -
stated the new proposal would probably mean the loss of Lot 3 and
possibly a variance for front yard setback on the existing structure.
The Council did not have a strong opinion one way or the other between
the initially proposed 120-foot jog or the revised sketch for road
alignment, thinking it will depend on the wetland issue.
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APPROVE PRELIMINARY PLAT/NIGHTINGALE RIDGE
Mr. Erickson reviewed the proposed preliminary plat of Nightingalp.
Ridge, which consists of six single family rural residential lots.
Variances are being requested from the minimum 300-foot requirement at
the front setback line for Lots 1 and 2, Block 2, and Lot 1, Block 3.
Also, Outlot A must be either combined with the Julsrud/Heidelberger
property prior to recording of the final plat or eliminated and become
a part of Lot 1, Block 3. In addition, Family of Christ Lutheran Church
must deed a drainage and utility easement for the 100-year flood
elevation and proposed storm sewer that is being constructed as a part
of the plat. The church must also submit a letter to the City that it
will maintain and clean the pond. If it fails to do so, the City will
have the right to maintain the pond and invoice the work back to the
church.
Mayor McKelvey noted the variances are necessary because of the
Heidelberger property, which also does not meet the 300 feet. Mr.
Carlberg explained the Heidelberger property is an existing lot of
record and not a part of this plat. It is technically a landlocked,
nonconforming parcel. This plat allows him to have access to a public
road. Mayor McKelvey asked if he will still have that easement for a
private road.
Ken Gust. developer's enqineer - stated Mr. Heidelberger has asked for
an easement along the edge to keep a temporary road. If the easement:
from the north to the new street is vacated, he would have to access
directly. In discussing the issue, the Council felt that the easement
cannot be allowed unless it is blacktopped, which is what has been
required in similar instances in the past. The driveway from that
parcel must access directly to the dedicated street and not go across
private property. Mr. Erickson stated the easement across this plat
will be vacated, and Mr. Heidelberger's driveway would have to access
onto Lynette Street.
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Kunza, to move the Resolution to approve the
preliminary plat, add that the easement for the driveway across the plat
be vacated or be required to be blacktopped. (See Resolution R248-95)
Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Jacobson) vote.
WDE AGREEMENT
Mr. Fursman explained the MPCA is taking over the landfill site, and the
Council is being asked to approve the Letter of Agreement to allow them
access to the WDE landfill. This will replace the existing agreement
between the City and CRA. The PCA is requiring the City adopt language
in the building code which would affect homes that are within a certain
distance of the landfill site itself. If the City does not do so, PCA
will withhold its payment of $164,000 for sewer area and connection
charges.
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Mayor McKelvey thought the City had the requirement of methane barriers
removed from the agreement with CRA. He recalled the City did agree
that no wells would be drilled within a certain distance of the
landfill. Mr. Davidson understood the agreement with CRA was the sewer
access at Crosstown Boulevard would be temporary; and if it is
determined a permanent outlet is needed, it would be piped directly
south to connect into the Bunker Lake Boulevard pipe. The Mayor
expressed a desire to talk with PCA officials before acting on the
proposed agreement. The Council agreed.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, to table this until we get further
clarification of what is all involved. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, 1-
Absent (Jacobson) vote.
LIVEABLE COMMUNITIES ACT
Mr. Fursman stated he is bringing back the discussion on the City's
participation in the Liveable Communities Act which has been passed by
the State legislature. He felt the City has more to lose than to gain
by not participating at this time. Mr. Fursman then went through a
detailed review of the paragraphs in the proposed resolution electing to
participate in the Local housing Incentives Account Program under the
Metropolitan Liveable Communities Act. The City's share has been
estimated at $16,388 per year beginning 1997 to provide funding and
assistance to metropolitan area municipalities. The City will not be
eligible for any grants or loans unless it participates in the Local
Housing Incentives Account Program. He thought Andover could benefit by
grants or loans to clean up the polluted lands. The City would
establish affordable and life-cycle housing goals which must be approved
by the Metropolitan Council. Ironically, he found that as of 1990, 72
percent of Andover's housing stock is already considered affordable by
the Metropolitan Council. Andover's lowest percentage of life-cycle
housing is apartments and senior housing. Once an agreement is reached,
Andover would take steps to remove barriers to that type of housing.
Councilmember Knight noted one requirement that is considered a barrier
is requiring garages for homes. He didn't know whether the City wanted
to eliminate that requirement.
Mr. Fursman stated if the City and the Metropolitan Council cannot reach
an agreement on the City's goals, the City has the ability to opt out of
the program. Mayor McKelvey was concerned that if the City does not
participate or opts out of the program at some point, the Metropolitan
Council will not allocate any further sewer expansion.
Mr. Fursman also noted the City must elect to participate in the
programs prior to November 15, 1995; but it also has the option of
bowing out in any year prior to November 15 of that year. No where does
the program state what the steps have to be taken to attain the goals o~
how long it has to do so. Councilmember Knight found this as an effort
to force the suburbs to provide low-cost housing. Just watching what
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happened with Maple Grove should send an alarm of how cities will be
forced into these things. Andover is a young city and doesn't need much
for rehabilitation housing. He also noted in similar programs, the
administrative costs are tremendous and are assessed with no discussion
or agreement.
Mr. Fursman noted that is the HRA program. He thought under this
legislation, the City gains by being able to pull out if it cannot
negotiate goals with the Metropolitan Council, no funding is required
for 1996, and there is little enforceability. Also, the City's shar·"
can be substituted with funding already expended for affordable housing.
He felt that the City already spends more than $16,000 a year on
affordable housing through CDBG funds, Staff planning, Community Action,
etc., so this would not be an additional expenditure. If the City does
not participate, it will be placed on the list which is then sent to the
legislature. Again, he felt it would be more beneficial to participate
at this time and opt out in the future if agreements cannot be reached.
Councilmember Dehn was concerned that this is just the beginning of
getting a hold of or controlling what cities should do. She did not
like the idea of playing their games. Mayor McKelvey thought it would
be to the City's advantage to participate at least until the sewer
expansion is allocated. Then it can bow out if it chooses to do so.
MOTION by McKelvey to pass the Resolution electing to participate in the
Local Housing Incentives Account Program under the Metropolitan Liveable
Communities Act. Motion dies for lack of a Second.
Clav Heil. 14554 Bluebird Street - asked if the other communities are
electing to participate in the program. He felt this is political
blackmail. If the City starts with these goals, as it grows, in five or
ten years they will dictate even lower standards. Mr. Fursman didn' r,
know which cities are participating, but he thought most of them are
doing so. He also pointed out this isn't a Metropolitan Council
initiative. It was legislature passed by the State. He thought the
City hurts itself by not participating now, knowing it has the option to
bow out within a year. Once the City gets its 10-year supply of MUSA,
it will be able to look at the long-term growth and establish
responsible patterns of growth. Mayor McKelvey stated he also receives
a lot of pressure to build something for the senior citizens. That
would fit into this proposal. He too didn't think the City had anything
to lose and quite a bit to gain by participating at this time.
MOTION by McKelvey to pass the Resolution electing to participate in the
Local Housing Incentives Account Program under the Metropolitan Liveable
Communities Act. Motion dies for lack of a Second. No further action
was taken on this item.
TRANSFER OF AGENT OF RECORD/CITY INSURANCE
Ms. McGann requested the Council approve an Agent of Record Transfer to
change insurance agents. The insurance company will not be changed,
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only the agent servicing the account. Her recommendation is to approve
Landmark Insurance Services with Gary Shay as the City's agent.
Landmark Insurance services quite a few different municipalities, but
she did not know the number of years of municipal service. She has not
been pleased with the services of the existing agent, Associated
Insurance Brokers, as phone calls have not been returned and items not
kept up to date. The existing agent should be aware from their
conservations that she is very unhappy with his performance. Mr.
Fursman stated this was responding to a citizen's inquiry as to whether
or not the City had sufficient insurance coverage provided by the agent.
Ken Orttel - stated he spent a number of years as a member of the Board
of League of Minnesota Cities Insurance Trust and helped develop thi8
program. The program is one of the most successful programs in the State
of Minnesota as far as saving money for the public. He also had a hand
in writing the policies, so he is very familiar with municipal
insurance. The League of Minnesota Cities is a nonprofit group owned by
the cities of Minnesota. While there are few industry standards, the
only competition is among agents since the League of Minnesota Cities
Insurance is a monopoly. There's a substantial amount of commissions
generated from Andover's premiums, which is an antiquated way of buying
insurance. He suggested the City should buy services as needed on a
fee-for-services basis. The League of Minnesota Cities sells insurance
net of commissions to an agency or service firm that will allow the City
to purchase the services needed. That's the way it should be bid. He
has never seen this firm or the agent being proposed as an agent for a
municipality unless it has been recently. He suggested a minimum of ten
years intense commercial experience, five years intense municipal
experience, and CPCU underwriter who is associated with risk management,
etc. He suggested taking the money given in commissions and buy risk
management advise on how to reduce losses, etc. The City would be far
better off and probably spend a lot less money. Contact the adjoining
cities or contact the League and ask for the five best producers, then
interview them and determine who has the services the City needs.
Mr. Orttel also noted the ethics of the insurance business, that is once
the agent does all the work for a commercial account, to switch to
another agent after that work has been done is usually not done. Even if
considering a switch, which he thought is a big mistake, it should be
effective March 1 or soon after the commission is due so the person gets
his due for doing the work. The City's agent, Cordell Wellman, has been
an agent of the City for over 20 years; and all the years he's worked
with Mr. Wellman, there has never been a problem. Mr. Wellman is very
intelligent, understands the business, and is a former Mayor and
Councilmember of Ham Lake. Mr. Orttel suggested the City seriously look
at buying fee-for-services as needed. Call the League of Minnesota
Cities Insurance Trust for those who are doing the most fee-for-service
business. He thought it could save a lot of money for the City.
Mr. Fursman thought Mr. Orttel's suggestion had merit and is something
Staff had not considered. Council agreed to have Staff investigate this
item further and bring it back to the them.
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CURFEW ORDINANCE
Mayor McKelvey suggested the Staff draw up a curfew ordinance that is
comparable to the county's ordinance and bring it back for Council
action.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, to so move. Motion carried on a 4-
Yes, I-Absent (Jacobson) vote.
SCHEDULE DATE/FINAL BUDGET REVIEW
Council agreed to cancel the special meeting set for Thursday, November
9. They then agreed to set a special meeting for Wednesday, November
15, 1995, 7:00 p.m. at the Andover City Hall to do a final review of the
proposed 1996 budget and to discuss the course of action regarding the
City Hall facilities.
EXPANSION BOX - TELEPHONE SYSTEM
Ms. McGann explained the current telephone system is at its maximum
capacity, and they are unable to add additional phone lines or modem
lines for the new computer system. She requested approval to purchase
an expansion box to allow for the additional phone lines that will be
needed in the future and for computer modems. She anticipated no
additional upgrades will be necessary for a new City Hall facility. The
box will provide eight additional ports and allow about 40 phone lines.
She proposed the cost of $3,150 for the expansion box be taken from the
contingency fund. Mayor McKelvey asked for a motion to approve the
request.
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Kunza, to so move. Motion carried on a 4-
Yes, I-Absent (Jacobson) vote.
APPROVE CHANGE ORDER #3/FOX WOODS/HARTFIEL'S/SHARON'S 2ND/POND
RCR /BUNKER LAKE BOULEVARD SERVICE ROAD
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Kunza, approval of Item 24. (See
Resolution R249-95 approving Change Order #3 for IP94-9, IP94-6, IP94-7,
IP93-30) Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Jacobson) vote.
APPROVE CHANGE ORDER #3/CROWN POINTE EAST/IP94-22
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Kunza, approval. (See Resolution R250-95
approving Change Order #3 for IP94-22) Motion carried on a 4-Yes, 1-
Absent (Jacobson) vote.
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APPROVE CHANGE ORDER #7/HILLS OF BUNKER LAKE 5TH ADDITION/IP93-12
Mr. Davidson explained the change order is to remove and replace damaged
concrete curb and gutter throughout the development. All of these costs
are paid for by the developer. Generally when a builder or contractor
damages something, they pay for it. In this case, Mr. Gorham had agreed
to replace the curb if it could be done in the fall.
MOTION by Kunza, Seconded by Dehn, approval of the Change Order. (See
Resolution R251-95) Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Jacobson)
vote.
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Kunza, payment of the claims. Motion
carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Jacobson) vote.
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
Main tenance in Senior Center - Councilmember Kunza stated he has
received calls from Senior Citizens complaining the floor is always
cold, the stove is not working, and the Center is often left a mess.
Mayor McKelvey stated the cleaning service can be changed if they are
not doing an acceptable job. He knew of a maintenance problem with the
freezer that has not yet been resolved, but that is still being pursued.
No specific direction was given.
The Council recessed at this time to hold a special closed meeting with
the City Attorney on the Old is Gold litigation, 12:48; reconvened at
1:13 a.m.
MOTION by Kunza, Seconded by Knight, to adjourn. Motion carried on a 4-
Yes, I-Absent (Jacobson) vote.
The meeting was adjourned at 1:14 a.m.
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Recording Secretary