HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC February 21, 1995
CITY of ANDOVER
Regular City Council Meeting - February 21, 1995
Call to Order - 7:00 pm
Resident Forum
Agenda Approval
Consent Agenda
Approval of Minutes
Discussion Items
1. Public Hearing/Flood plain Ordinance
2. Public Hearing/Vacation of Right-of-Way/Bunker Lake Blvd.
Frontage Road
3. Hire Fire Chief
4. Approve Development Contract/Urban Area
5. Approve Development Contract/Rural Area
6. Receive Supplemental Feasibility Report/Crown Point East/
94-22, Cont
7. Approve Revised preliminary Plat Resolution/Crown pointe
East, Cont.
8..Approve Final Plat/Crown pointe East, Cont.
9. Approve Development Contract/Crown pointe East, Cont.
10. Award Bids/Crown pointe East
11. Approve Development Contract/Sharon's 2nd Addition
12. Approve Final plat/Sharon's 2nd Addition
13. Schedule Special Meeting w/Park & Recreation Comluission
14. Accept Easements/93-30/Bunker Lake Blvd. Frontage Road
15. Approve plans & Specs/94-1/City Hall Park Complex #1 Lighting
16. Approve Final payment/92-25/University Avenue
17. Accept Drainage & utility Easements/Foxberry Farms
18. Order Appraisals for purchase of Property/94-18, Cont.
19. Approve classification and Sale of Forfeit Land
20. Septic Update
EDA Meeting
21. Public Hearing/TIF Redistricting
22. Appoint EDA Officers
Staff, Commissions, Committees
23. Backyard Composting Program
24. Taro Mulching Mower Program
Non-Discussion/Consent Items
25. Authorization to Purchase Street Sweeper
26. Approve Final payrnent/93-18/pine Hills
Mayor-Council Input
Payment of Claims
Adjournment
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REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES - FEBRUARY 21, 1995
TABLE OF CONTENTS
AGENDA APPROVAL . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
CONSENT AGENDA
Authorization to purchase street sweeper ....... · · 1
Resolution R020-95 approving final payment/IP93-18/Pine
Hills . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
APPROVAL OF MINUTES · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
PUBLIC HEARING: FLOOD PLAIN ORDINANCE · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
Motion to repeal Ordinance 50 and adopt Ordinance 107 · · · · 2
PUBLIC HEARING: VACATION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY/BUNKER LAKE BOULEVARD
FRONTAGE ROAD
Resolution R021-95 to vacate right of way · · · · · · · · · · 2
HIRE FIRE CHIEF (Dan Winkel) · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
DEVELOPMENT CONTRACTS/URBAN AND RURAL . · · · · · · · · · · · · 3
Motion to table but adopt seal coating provision · · · · · · · 4
Motion to schedule special meeting for February 28 · · · · · 4
SUPPLEMENTAL FEASIBILITY REPORT/CROWN POINTE EAST/IP94-22 · · · · 4
Resolution R022-95 to adopt supplemental feasibility · · · · 7
REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAT/CROWN POINTE EAST . . . · · · · · · · · 8
Resolution R023-95 approving preliminary plat · · · · · · · 9
FINAL PLAT/CROWN POINTE EAST · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 9
Resolution R024-95 approving final plat · · · · · · · · · · · 10
DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT/CROWN POINTE EAST · · · · · · · · · · · · · 10
Motion to table · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 11
AWARD BIDS/CROWN POINTE EAST
Motion to table · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 12
DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT/SHARON'S 2ND ADDITION
Motion to approve Development Contract · · · · · · · · · · · 12
FINAL PLAT/SHARON'S 2ND ADDITION
Resolution R025-95 approving final plat · · · · · · · · · · · 13
APPRAISALS FOR PURCHASE OF PROPERTY/IP94-18 · · · · · · · · · · 13
Motion to route majority of sewer extension on City-owned
property · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 14
BACKYARD COMPOSTING PROGRAM/TORO MULCHING POWER PROGRAM . · · · · 14
SCHEDULE SPECIAL MEETING WITH PARK & RECREATION COMMISSION
(March 2, 1995, 7:00 p.m.) · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 15
EASEMENTS/IP93-30/BUNKER LAKE BOULEVARD FRONTAGE ROAD
Motion to accept · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 15
PLANS AND SPECS/IP94-1/CITY HALL PARK COMPLEX #1 LIGHTING
Resolution R026-95 approving final plans and specs · · · · · 15
FINAL PAYMENT/IP92-25/UNIVERSITY AVENUE
Resolution R027-95 accepting work and directing final payment 15
ACCEPT DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENTS/FOXBERRY FARMS
Motion to accept · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 15
CLASSIFICATION AND SALE OF FORFEIT PROPERTY . · · · · · · · · · · 15
SEPTIC SYSTEM UPDATE · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 15
TIF REDISTRICTING
Resolution R028-95 modifying Development Program · · · · · · 16
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
Updates from Attorney · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 16
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 16
ADJOURNMENT . . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 16
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REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - FEBRUARY 21, 1995
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to
order by Mayor Jack McKelvey on February 21, 1995, 7:00 p.m., at the
Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmembers present: Dehn, Jacobson, Knight
Councilmember absent: Kunza
Also present: City Attorney, William G. Hawkins
TKDA Engineer, John Davidson
Assistant City Engineer, Todd Haas
- City Engineer, Scott Erickson
City Planning Director, Dave Carlberg
City Administrator, Richard Fursman
Others
AGENDA APPROVAL
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Jacobson, to approve the Agenda. Motion
carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
CONSENT AGENDA
Item 25 Authorization to Purchase Street Sweeper
Item 26 Approve Final Payment/IP93-18/Pine Hills (See Resolution
R020-95)
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, to approve the Consent Agenda.
Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
February 7, 1995, Regular Meeting - Correct as written.
February 7, 1995, HRA Meeting - Page 2, Third Motion, Delete reference
to Resolution Number.
February 9, 1995, Special Meeting - Correct as written.
Mayor McKelvey asked for a motion to approve the Minutes for all three
meetings.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, to so move. Motion carried on a 4-
Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
PUBLIC HEARING: FLOOD PLAIN ORDINANCE
7:06 p.m. Rosella Sonstebv - asked what changes were being made. Mr.
Carlberg explained there are a number of additions to the definition
section. A section was added to replace mobile homes with manufactured
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Minutes - February 21, 1995
Page 2
(Public Hearing: Flood Plain Ordinance, Continued)
homes, plus a section was added on the Board of Appeals to provide an
appeals procedure. There were also some changes on some of the flood
plain maps that have changed since 1980 which have been approved by the
DNR.
Ms. Sonstebv - thought there should be a map showing those changes. She
didn't know what those changes were and did not like surprises. The
City has changed her wetland since dumping all the water onto it. In
the 50 years she's lived there, it's never been higher. She wondered if
more flood plain is being declared on her land. Mayor McKelvey stated
there are no changes to her land.
A gentlemen asked if there are any changes to the 100-year flood plain
elevations. Mr. Carlberg stated there are no changes.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, to close the public hearing. Motion
carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote. The Mayor asked for a motion
to approve the ordinance repealing Ordinance No. 50 and adopting
Ordinance 107, an Ordinance for the management of flood plains in the
City of Andover.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, to so move. Motion carried on
a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote. 7:13 p.m.
PUBLIC HEARING: VACATION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY /BUNKER LAKE BOULEVARD FRONTAGE
ROAD
7:13 p.m. There was no public testimony.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, to move the Resolution vacating a
portion of right-of-way for service road in Pankonin Addition with the
following change: In Item 2, which reads "That Murphy Oil, Inc. , is to
dedicate the 60 feet that is necessary as shown on the City of Andover
Right-of-way Plat No.2..." , change that to "That Murphy Oil, Inc. ,
dedicates the 60 feet that is necessary. . . " (See Resolution R021-95)
DISCUSSION: Councilmember Jacobson noted with the change in wording,
the dedication must be done immediately, not at a future date. Motion
carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote. 7:18 p.m.
HIRE FIRE CHIEF
MOTION by McKelvey, Seconded by Jacobson, that we hire Dan Winkel as our
new Fire Chief. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
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APPROVE DEVELOPMENT CONTRACTS/URBAN AND RURAL AREAS
Mayor MCKelvey stated there is a request from some developers to table
this until they can meet with Staff and someone from the City Council.
Jerrv Windschitl. Ashford Development - stated he was speaking for
himself, but the proposed Development Contract is really a significant
change to development in the City, such as the escrow for sealcoating.
The City will be collecting for sealcoating from lots sold under the new
Development Contract to be used six or seven years from now; but during
that time the real estate taxes from those same lots will be used to pay
for sealcoating other parts of the City. The escrOw amount is double or
triple the previous amounts in some cases, and the escrow for erosion is
in there three times. He felt if there is a need for an erosion escrow,
it is valid; but he didn't understand why it is needed three times. He
also questioned raising the performance bond to 100 percent for two
years in the rural developments. If they sell lots to a builder, are
they as developers still held responsible for putting in the turf if it
is ruined by the builder? Once they have their erosion control
established, will the developers be responsible for what a builder does
to a lot after it is sold? The question is the same for tree removal.
In many cases it is a fee title transfer, and the developer has no
interest in the property any more. He didn't know what was mean by
"appurtenances" mentioned in Item 4 of the Agenda material. Also, they
would be severely restricted in the number of building permits they
could receive, which means it would be difficult to market a development
through the Parades and Previews. Rather than discussing these points
at this meeting, the developers hoped to meet with Staff or the Road
Committee or have the Council hold a special meeting.
Councilmember Jacobson stated he had questions on some of the same
items. He was in favor of tabling the item for two weeks to allow the
developers and Staff to discuss those items with the Mayor. Mr. Fursman
explained all of the changes in the Development Contract are not
intended to stand alone but to go hand in hand with Ordinance 10.
Unfortunately, those Ordinance 10 amendments will not be ready until the
next regular Council meeting. He reviewed the background of the
direction Council gave Staff to address the problems associated with the
rapid development over several years and to develop policies to help the
City develop in a responsible way. One of the areas of concern is the
immediate need to be sure the new infrastructure is kept in a state of
repair. With the City's scarce resources, there has been limited upkeep
of the City's streets. It will require in excess of $500,000 to bring
the cracksealing and sealcoating up to date. The Staff has held a
series of meetings with the Road Committee and with the Council and
discussed the proposal of escrowing for sealcoating on all developments
to minimize the development impact. At previous meetings the Council
got bogged down with discussions of the septic system issue being
mandated by the Metropolitan Council. There is still no progress to
report on that issue, but the miles of City roads continues to grow and
so does the problem. He urged the Council to at least act on the
seal coating issue.
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Minutes - February 21, 1995
Page 4
(Approve Development Contract/Urban & Rural, Continued)
Councilmember Jacobson agreed the sealcoating issue had been discussed
by the Road Committee, and the Engineering Department argued the first
seale oat is a part of the overall construction of a road. But he was
still concerned with some of the duplication in the proposed Development
Contract, plus he felt some of the costs are high. Mr. Erickson stated
the 100-percent bond in the rural area is to warranty the work, similar
to what is required in the urban area. A one-year 100-percent bond is
currently required, but a two-year bond is not an unusual request. It
provides additional security for the City that there will be someone
around to repair any problem. He also explained the $1 per square yard
for sealcoating was based on previous cracksealing and sea1coating
projects.
Councilmember Jacobson noted the wording of a two-year bond in the rural
area accepts the improvements lying within the public easements. That
could also include cable TV, phone lines, gas lines, etc. He felt the
language needs to be reviewed. Mr. Erickson agreed to clarify that.
Council discussion continued on this item. It was finally decided a
special meeting will be held to meet with the developers next week to
hear their concerns and to approve the proposal that developers escrow
for the first seal coating within their developments.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, that we table Items 4 and 5
except for the issue of sealcoating in both the urban and rural areas
and make the sealcoating provision in both of those items included in
the Development Contract from this point on, $1 per square yard. Table
the rest to the next meeting. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent
(Kunza) vote.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, that the City Council hold a
special Council meeting on Tuesday, February 28, 7:00 p.m. at Fire
Station No. 1 to discuss with the developers and other interested
parties the Development Contract for the City of Andover. Motion
carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
RECEIVE SUPPLEMENTAL FEASIBILITY REPORT/CROWN POINTE EAST/IP94-22
Attorney Hawkins advised that approval of the Resolution means the
Council is both receiving and accepting the feasibility report.
Jerrv Winds chit 1 , Ashford Development - presented to the Council copies
of letters dated February 21, 1995 from himself and one from his
engineer regarding the watermain looping in the proposed plat.
Pete Raatikka, EnQineer for Hakanson Anderson Associates, Inc. ,
representinQ Mr. Windschitl - stated they reviewed many plans done in
Andover where the watermain should have been looped according to the
City's policy but was not. In reviewing the Standards for Waterworks
adopted by ten state¡¡, the main reason for looping deadends is to
provide increased reliability of service and to reduce head or pressure
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Minutes - February 21, 1995
Page 5
(Receive Supplemental Feasibility/94-22, Crown pointe East, Continued)
loss. In his opinion, the water is not going to be stagnant in the
Quince Street cul-de-sac because there will be 16 connections on it; and
he did not see the need for the looping of the watermain. Mr. Erickson
explained the recommendation is to loop the watermain to the closest
possible future watermain to help keep the line from accumulating a lot
of sediment and clogging the system. Because it is not known what will
develop to the east, the proposal is to provide for future looping of
the watermain to the west to the proposed future Crown pointe plat. It
has been the City's experience that cul-de-sacs over 300 feet need to be
looped.
Mr. Windschitl - argued the $44,000 escrow being asked is over and above
what is required in Crown pointe East. Andover has never required a
developer to pay for any construction outside of the plat; it has always
been limited to the plat itself. The problem with the loop is it would
be going through the middle of a wetland, and there is no guarantee that
he will be able to get a permit to get the line through it. He also
argued similar loops have not been required in the past. There is a
cul-de-sac to the south that is approximately the same length as Quince,
and that was not required to be looped.
Mr. Davidson stated what is unique to this plat is that while the cul-
de-sac is only 500 feet, until the road to the east is constructed, from
Hills of Bunker Lake 5th Addition to the cul-de-sac it is one long
deadend line. In the past there had been discussions of coordinating
utilities and benefits to the property west of Coon Creek. At one point
he was specifically asked to consider the two plats, so they put the
numbers together for thet alternative if the property west of the creek
were built. They were also lead to believe if that property west of the
creek were developed, it was going to have two accesses. The other
alternative to looping the watermain to the west would be to extend it
to a future connection north to Andover Boulevard. Mr. Davidson also
explained the watermain system as it relates to development to the east
of Prairie Road and how all of the system ties together. He has
reviewed those places pointed out by Mr. Raatikka that were not looped.
He explained all but two or three are less than 300 feet and a 6-inch
main is installed to create more velocity in those lines. The longest
one, Eldorado Street in Meadows of Round Lake, was installed with the
intent that the street would be extended to Highway 116, and then the
line would be looped in the future to the south. The DNR has not yet
permitted the extension of that street over the wetland area. The
wetlands is also an issue on 147th Avenue in that same development. In
Crown pointe East, the intent is to construct the line to the creek so
that in the future it can cross the creek and tie in with the property
to the west.
Mr. Winds chit 1 - stated his principal objection is being asked to escrow
money, the $44,000, that isn't going to benefit this plat. If it is
determined that a loop is needed, he would not object to that portion
being constructed within the plat itself. He did feel, however, that
the most logical extension would be to the east; because as that
property develops, there will almost assuredly be a cul-de-sac directly
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Minutes - February 21, 1995
Page 6
(Receive Supplemental Feasibility/94-22, Crown pointe East, Continued)
east of the Quince Street cul-de-sac because of the nature of that land.
They would work with the Staff to find a route to get through with a
looped watermain; but he felt very strongly about the $44,000 being
asked for something outside of the plat that may not be built because of
the wetland. He was not aware that this line is trying to be used for
a trunk line to service property to the east.
In further discussion on the reasons for looping and the maintenance
requirements of deadend water lines, Frank Stone, Public Works
Superintendent, explained they must flush those lines that are not
looped. Normally the lines are flushed twice a year and cul-de-sacs
about four times a year. He also noted that 16 homes on a deadend line
is too many. If something happens to the line, it is too many homes
that would be without water. He also predicted the water will get
stagnant and rusty. Mr. Erickson explained the experience has been the
looping eliminates the rusty water complaints. Mr. Davidson stated the
next area to be included in the MUSA boundary will probably be to the
east of this area, but it is not within the five-year plan. The area to
the west is within that five-year plan. He was working with known
factors. If the DNR refused to allow the watermain to go through the
wetland to the west, they would deal with it; but he did not see a
problem getting a permit because it is not a DNR protected wetland and
is under the jurisdiction of the Coon Creek Watershed.
There was some discussion about getting a permit from the Watershed to
cross that wetland with the watermain loop while going through this
process; however, Mr. Windschitl noted a permit is only good for one
year. Mr. Erickson stated the looping through the wetland is only one
alternative. They would look at the shortest and best route for it.
Councilmember Jacobson noted the feasibility states the watermain loop
goes between Lots 14 and 15, but the map shows it between Lots 15 and
16. Mr. Davidson verified it should be between Lots 15 and 16. During
the construction of Crown pointe East, the portion of the watermain to
be looped would be brought from the street to the rear end of the lot.
It would still have to be piped under the creek plus the rest of the
construction when the western property is developed. Councilmember
Jacobson again asked if Mr. Windschitl is not objecting to that looping
being done in Crown pointe East as long as he doesn't have to put money
aside for the western property.
Mr. Windschitl - is objecting to the looping, but has less objection to
building it if it is in the plans for Crown pointe East. Their biggest
objection is to escrow the $44,000. It is tying up a lot of money for
something that mayor may not be built. If the Crown pointe East plans
are approved tonight with that piece of pipe in it, he does not object
to it. He would, however, like to try to look at other alternatives,
particularly going to the east. He can meet with the individual who owns
that property. That property will have a cul-de-sac, and connecting the
two cul-de-sacs would get the best conditions. There is also stable
soils on this side of the creek, as it has been farmed for years.
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Page 7
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MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, to adopt the supplemental
feasibility report of watermain, street, storm drain and appurtenances
as per the Resolution. (See Resolution R022-95) DISCUSSION:
Mr. Windschitl - didn't know on whose authority this supplemental report
was done and who is paying for it, though he assumes he will be billed
for it. He alleged this has never been authorized by the City Council.
He wanted just the normal established process to be followed. The
Council responded they asked the consulting engineers to come back with
some numbers. The bridge has always been an issue.
Mr. Windschitl - stated they have no objection to the location and have
set that location aside. Mr. Davidson and Mr. Erickson provided some
background in this entire process, noting they have tried to follow the
direction of the Council. The Attorney may, however, need to check to
be sure all of the proper resolutions have been passed. When the
preliminary plat was approved on September 6, the Council asked the
amount of funds that would be needed for the construction of a street to
the west and asked that the source of funding be addressed. Item 4 of
the resolution approving the preliminary plat addresses the creek
crossing issue, plus it was discussed on two other occasions.
Councilmember Jacobson asked Mr. Windschitl if he felt the City has not
progressed in the normal manner with normal public hearings.
Mr. Windschitl - stated the sequence, to be best of his knowledge, is
correct. The preliminary plat was approved on September 6, 1994. The
item referred to by Mr. Erickson is in the resolution, but that referred
to the street. The Minutes show the feasibility report was approved
before it was prepared. The date of the feasibility report is September
19, 1994. He was simply asking if there is to be additional feasibility
reports prepared, that they be ordered by the Council. Councilmember
Jacobson again asked if there is anything improper or out of sequence in
the City's procedure.
Mr. Winds chit 1 - stated only that the feasibility report is asking him
to escrow something close to one-half million dollars. Councilmember
Knight noted the issue of a second crossing needed to develop the
property west of the creek has been discussed at a number of meetings.
Mr. Fursman stated this was discussed last fall, and the concern is the
cost of constructing a bridge would be an issue unless other
alternatives for developing the property to the west were found. At
that time the agreement was made that the City would allow this project
to proceed with the understanding that any future development would
depend on that bridge or another crossing. The feasibility was designed
to establish the actual costs of constructing that bridge or crossing.
At this point the consideration is whether or not it is advisable for
the developer to include some kind of provision with Crown pointe East
for the construction of that bridge/crossing because it appears the
other development would not be able to finance that construction on its
own. It is important to understand that another access will be required
at some point, to understand what those costs are, and to discuss how to
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Page 8
(Receive Supplemental Feasibility/94-22, Crown pointe East, Continued)
fund it. Councilmember Jacobson agreed the City's suggestion was to
spread the costs over both plats; however, it is the developer's option
to put it all on the proposed Crown pointe development.
Further Council discussion reiterated its decision that a second access
will be needed when the property west of the creek develops for safety
and emergency reasons.
Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
APPROVE REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAT RESOLUTION/CROWN POINTE EAST
Councilmember Jacobson noted the original preliminary plat had only one
variance and this one has five. Mr. Erickson stated one variance is the
same one, three are for smaller type variances that were not picked up
in the original review, and the other is for a different request.
Nothing has changed from the original plan review.
Attorney Hawkins understood there will be a street easement over Outlot
C to the creek so the City can have access if needed in the future. The
disadvantage is if it is an outlot, it can go tax forfeit. The policy
also is to have a street constructed to the edge of the plat. If it is
not going to be constructed now, there should be some financial
guarantees provided by the developer.
Jerrv WindschitL Ashford Development - stated they have agreed to
provide an escrow for the construction. If the road isn't used for a
street, he thought he had an agreement with Mr. Fursman that the
Development Contract would provide that the land would be given back to
him. So the chances of it going tax forfeit are zero. The next item on
the agenda provides that prior to plat being filed, he will escrow for
the construction of Quince to the creek. Attorney Hawkins also noted
there is a provision in the Development Contract that the developer
acknowledges that a bridge or crossing is needed to develop the proposed
Crown pointe property and the responsibility to pay for it. He believed
the City would have a legal basis to require Mr. Windschitl to pay for
that crossing. That provision binds Ashford Development and would be
recorded as a covenant so any future purchaser would be aware of that
obligation.
Mr. Erickson also noted the approval of the revised preliminary plat
means the revised grading plan will also be approved. Some lots need to
be raised. There was also some concerned raised by an adjacent property
owner on the change to the swale along his back property line. The
original grading plan called for a small scale, which was enlarged and
deepened as a result of concerns raised by residents. Aesthetically it
is a large change.
Mr. Windschitl - stated the revision keeps all of the water on the plat.
The changes were made as a result of a number of residents accusing two
developers of flooding them out. The lots behind Dave Erickson are two
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Page 9
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feet higher than the original plan to make sure the water didn't run
onto the adjoining property. The tree quality in that area was very
limited and some trees were taken out with the grading work. There is
a row of trees still there which are on his property, but they are
further down from Mr. Erickson's property. Mayor McKelvey had the
impression the whole row of trees would not be disturbed, an issue also
raised by some of the adjoining residents. The City Engineer stated the
grading change creates a deeper swale to the north, plus it is quite a
bit wider. Both the original grading plan and this revised one will
function to keep the water off of adjacent property.
Dave Erickson, 745 l40th Lane - wanted the Council to know the swale is
really a ditch that is six feet which doesn't look good from his yard.
He met with Mr. Windschitl before it was excavated. There were some
small oak trees behind his property and Mr. Windschitl told him he
didn't think the grading plan would change anything behind his house;
but it has. He didn't understand how the change has helped him or
anyone else because his property doesn't drain to that ditch. Maybe
there isn't anything that can be done, but it just doesn't look good.
He was told one reason the large swale was needed is to be able to
construct walkout basements. He wasn't sure that is a good reason to
dig all of that out.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, the Resolution amending Resolution
No. 216-94 approving the preliminary plat of Crown Pointe East as being
developed by Ashford Development Corporation, Inc. , inserting the date
of January 24, 1995, in Item No. 3. (See Resolution R023-95) Motion
carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
APPROVE FINAL PLAT/CROWN POINTE EAST
Jerrv Windschitl, Ashford Development - thought two of the three issues
have been resolved with Staff. He understood that Item 7 of the
Resolution, receipt of all necessary drainage utility easements outside
of the plat, will be obtained by Staff, as he has no ability of
acquiring those easements. Mr. Erickson stated that is correct. Not
all easements are in place yet, but Staff is working with the
appropriate property owners to obtain them.
Mr. Winds chit 1 - also understood that Item 12 is moot since the
preliminary plat has just been approved. Mr. Erickson agreed.
Mr. Winds chit 1 - stated Item 11 is the only remaining issue, that the
developer escrow for the extension of 142nd Avenue, the creek crossing,
and also the watermain loop. He will provide the escrow for the
connection to the creek for that portion inside the plat. He is also
agreeable to provide the watermain loop inside the plat itself . In
response to a question from counCilmemb~JJ:'20bSOn, Mr. Windschitl
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stated other than for Item 11, he has no Jlto the procedure. The
bulk of what is in this Resolution is the stand rd form.
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Steve Nash, Attornev representinq Mr. Windschitl - would not give a
legal opinion on the procedure, but he does have an issue with the
Development Contract which is the next agenda item.
Mr. Windschitl - stated Item 11 is stating in order to develop Crown
pointe East, he must give $44,000 for the watermain loop and
approximately $400,000 for the bridge out of Crown pointe East. He
argued that neither one is a part of the approval process for Crown
Pointe East. Mr. Fursman stated Staff is not necessarily recommending
No. 11. It was put in for discussion so everyone clearly understands
what is going on. Councilmember Jacobson agreed with the looping and
street extension within the plat. The suggestion was to have the
developer spread the costs of the bridge or crossing between the two
plats, but that is the developer's option. councilmember Knight was
concerned with getting in the position of an argument being raised at
the time the western property is developed that a crossing is not
feasible economically. Attorney Hawkins advised the language in the
Development Contract clearly obligates the developer to the construction
of the looping and street extension and those costs. It would not
necessarily have to be escrowed now.
The Council then suggested a revised wording of Item 11 to "The
developer escrow for the extension of 142nd Avenue NW to the creek."
Mr. Winds chit 1 - agreed and noted the provision for the watermain loop
within the plat itself is already taken care of. He also noted the
Watershed Board ultimately has control over Outlots A and B. Easements
across them are being given to the City. The Watershed Board will make
a determination in early spring as to whether they are or are not
buildable lots.
MOTION by Dehn, Seconded by Jacobson, that we adopt the Resolution
approving the final plat of Crown pointe East as being developed by
Ashford Development Corporation, Inc., as amended, specifically Item 11
as agreed and omitting Item No. 12. (See Resolution R024-95) Motion
carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
APPROVE DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT/CROWN POINTE EAST
Jerrv Windschitl, Ashford Development - suggested the Development
Contract include a provision that in the event Outlot C is not used for
the crossing, that it would be returned to him or that easement would be
vacated. He reads Item 13 on page 12 to mean the bridge is to be built,
but it doesn't provide any ability of doing anything else. It shouldn't
be in the Contract because it does not relate to Crown pointe East; it
relates to the proposed Crown Pointe. Crown Pointe East does not need
a bridge, so the item should be removed.
Steve Nash, Attornev representinq Mr. Windschitl - argued Crown pointe
does not exist today. The assumption is also being made as to who owns
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(Approve Development Contract/Crown pointe East, Continued)
the property west of Coon Creek. That property may not be used in the
way it is being assumed. They have heard comments about the possibility
of different ways to provide access to that western property, whether it
is a bridge, a crossing, a culvert, or some other alternative access.
Those will be issues no matter who owns the property, but they are being
denied by Item 13 in the Contract. He argued a second access can be
made a condition of the development of that western property, and the
point of this statement is to make his client aware that this is what
has to be done and that this is an issue that will be dealt with. The
City has the mechanism to protect itself at that time. As written, the
Contract states a bridge must be built for that development; but it
doesn't state what type of bridge or that alternatives may be
considered. The clause says "he" when the Contract is with Ashford
Development and should state "it". If the western property were under
different ownership, this condition should not be in the Contract. This
clause has never been in an Andover Development Contract before, and it
sets a precedent for any number of scenarios. There is also the issue
of potential changes if the property is developed five years from now
with a different Council, different philosophies, different engineering
technologies. Also, the City doesn't have the legal right to require Mr.
Windschitl to build a bridge he doesn't need for this plat.
After considerable discussion with Mr. Nash and the City Attorney, the
Council suggested the wording of Item 13 be revised by Mr. Nash and the
City Attorney that would put Ashford Development on notice that in order
to develop the property west of Coon Creek, it will have to have two
accesses because it is a public safety issue. The language should
provide some flexibility for possible alternatives, noting one of the
options is a bridge at an estimated cost of almost $400,000; but they
didn't want someone to be able to come back saying they didn't know they
had to build a bridge for that cost. Attorney Hawkins also recommended
the same language for looping the watermain.
Mr. Nash - was agreeable to that change in language to put Ashford
Development on notice.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, to table the Development Contract
for Crown pointe East as presented to allow the Attorney for the City
and the Attorney for the developer to get together and come to a common
language on Item No. 13 in the Contract, which is the Future Utility,
Road and Bridge Construction; come back to the Council at the next
meeting with language acceptable to both parties to ensure both parties'
rights. DISCUSSION: Mr. Fursman asked if the Development Contract
should include the revision approved this evening to escrow for the
first sealcoating of the streets.
Mr. Windschitl - stated the normal practice is to not require new
changes for projects that are already in front of the Council. After
some discussion, the Council agreed that the change made this evening
would not be applicable to projects already in process, that is for
those plats that already have preliminary plat approval. Therefore,
that provision would not apply in this development. Motion carried on
a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
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AWARD BIDS/CROWN POINTE EAST
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, to table this to the next regular
meeting to make sure the Development Contract is agreeable. Motion
carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
The Council recessed at 9:56; reconvened at 10:06 p.m.
APPROVE DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT/SHARON'S 2ND ADDITION
Mr. Haas explained the suggestion to require the developer to pay for
the costs associated with the installation of a pumping facility for
Pond C within the Hills of Bunker Lake Addition. That pumping facility
was required because a number of homes along it were built by Ron Smith
at elevations below what was approved. It was not a mistake made by
Staff but one made by the surveyor who should have known the elevation
of the houses.
Mr. Davidson provided the background which lead to the suggestion. At
the time the suggestion was made, he did not know that Mr. Smith had
made an arrangement with the developer of the Hills of Bunker Lake
Addition and had shared in the costs of correcting some of the problem.
To alleviate the need to have City Staff pump Pond C whenever the
elevation rose to the 100-year elevation, a pumping facility was
installed at a cost of approximately $15,000. To spread the costs for
Mr. Smith, the proposal is to include that $15,000 in the Development
Contract for Sharon's 2nd Addition. The development does not have a
direct benefit by the pumping of Pond C.
Ron Smith - stated he did not agree to pay for the pumping facility. He
owned 25 percent of The Hills of Bunker Lake and he paid 25 percent of
the project costs. He already paid for that storm drainage system and
did not feel he should have to pay again. Attorney Hawkins agreed the
City cannot include that cost in the Contract for Sharon's 2nd Addition.
The Council asked if Mr. Smith would be willing to pay a fourth of the
cost of that pumping facility.
Mr. Smith - stated he was first told the cost of the pump would be
$5,000 to $8,000. He could be talked into contributing $3,000. The
Council thanked him, asked that Staff find alternative means of paying
for the remaining costs.
MOTION by Jacobson, that the City Council approve the Development
Contract with the costs associated with the pumping facilities for Pond
C in the Hills of Bunker Lake to be removed, but also noted that Mr. Ron
Smith has voluntarily agreed to contribute $3,000 toward the pumping
station and that that be included in the Development Contract. Motion
carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
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APPROVE FINAL PLAT/SHARON'S 2ND ADDITION
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, the Resolution approving the final
plat of Sharon's 2nd Addition as presented, adding the provision for
receipt of all necessary drainage and utility easements outside the
plat. (See Resolution R025-94) Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent
(Kunza) vote.
ORDER APPRAISALS FOR PURCHASE OF PROPERTY/IP94-18, CONTINUED
Mr. Erickson reported he contacted Larold Thompson, the property owner
of 1813 Crosstown Boulevard, who was receptive to the potential sale of
the easement for the proposed extension of trunk sanitary sewer line
assuming the appraised price was acceptable to him. Mr. Ken Slyzuk,
owner of the second property from which easement would be needed, was
less receptive to the proposal. Mr. Slyzuk would rather see the
sanitary sewer line constructed entirely on the City property, with a
possible compromise of selling only 30 feet of easement for the project.
He felt the Council needs to address the alignment and the initiation of
appraisals to purchase or condemn the necessary easements. The City is
in the process of condemning other property, and it would be a
significant cost savings to attach this property in the event
condemnation ends up being the method of acquisition. He was not aware
of a cost evaluation between purchasing easement for the project as
opposed to running it on City property. The project will be laying a
24-inch sanitary sewer pipe about 25 feet deep. At least an easement
width of 60 feet will be needed plus a spoils pile on one side or the
other. Attorney Hawkins estimated approximately 2 acres would be needed
to acquire a 60-foot easement from Crosstown Boulevard north to the edge
of the City property. The school district has been purchasing property
for the new schools at $10,000 to $11,000 per acre, so the estimated
cost for the easement would be between $18,000 to $22,000.
Ken Slvzuk - was very frustrated that no one approached him about plans
for his property, that he hears about plans for his property through the
grape vine, and now even that there is talk of condemning his property.
He would have worked with the City if it had talked to him initially,
but he didn't think this was a very good beginning if the City wants to
work with him. He didn't know exactly where the school will be, but he
assumed at some point the pipe will have to be bent to get to it. If
that is so, he asked why the line couldn't be bent at Crosstown to go up
the City property or even all the way over to Hanson Boulevard. He also
needed to know if he develops his property in the future, how would his
property be impacted by the sewer line through it? How far away would
the houses have to be set back from his east property line? Staff noted
the possibility of providing a second access with a road along the
proposed easement. Otherwise, the normal rear yard setbacks would
apply, which is 30 feet for urban developments.
Mr. Slvzuk - argued his access would be from Nightingale. He didn't know
anything about a road, but he assumed at some point the entire 60 feet
will come from his property, which would reduce his building area.
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(Order Appraisals for Purchase of property/IP94-18, Continued)
Before giving any easement, he would want a written understanding of
what could and could not be done with the easement. Again he stated he
is very unhappy with finding out about this after the fact. The Council
noted the item was tabled to discuss it with the property owners.
Mr. Slvzuk - stated he would not agree to the entire 60 feet of easement
on his property. Maybe he would give up 30 feet and maybe he would work
out a construction easement. He saw no reason why the easement
shouldn't be shared with the City.
The Council deliberated the route of the sewer line. Staff noted the
space between the Public Works Building and City line is very narrow,
that 60 feet would be about at the building itself, and that space for
public works is very limited with a need for additional storage area.
Discussion was also on the potential location of the sewer line once it
reaches the northern edge of the City property, the potential service
area as laid out by TKDA, and the specific location of some of the
lateral lines to the east and west. The specific location of the line
to the west to Nightingale was not known by Mr. Haas.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, that we direct City Staff and
the Engineering firm to keep the majority of the easement to install the
sanitary sewer on City property, east of the line as depicted on a map
that was presented to the Council; and to enter into an agreement for
the property of Mr. Thompson and Mr. Slyzuk for a temporary easement for
spoils pillage. DISCUSSION: Discussion noted the majority of the
Council itended that some easement may be needed from the Thompson
property to get the line past the Public Works building; but once it is
past that building, the line is to be moved as far onto City property as
possible. The Council was not interested in purchasing the entire
parcel from Mr. Thompson; only the needed easement to get through that
area. Motion carried on a 3-Yes, I-No (Dehn as she felt all of the
line should remain on City property), I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
BACKYARD COMPOSTING PROGRAM/TORO MULCHING POWER PROGRAM
Cindy DeRuyter, Recycling Coordinator, informed the Council of the
Backyard Compo sting and Grasscycling Seminar scheduled for April 19 at
the Bunker Hills Activity Center. In conjunction with the yard waste
reduction process, the Toro Company is offering a Grasscycling Seminar
to encourage residents to let grass clippings lay instead of disposing
them. Twenty-five residents will be chosen to have free use of a
mulching lawn mower for a specific period of time, after which they will
be allowed to purchase the mower at a reduced cost. Ms. DeRuyter also
stated she has purchased some composting bins as well; and she will be
checking with the City of Coon Rapids, who is also participating in the
program, to determine how much to charge for those bins. No Council
action was required.
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SCHEDULE SPECIAL MEETING WITH PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
The Council agreed to hold a special meeting with the Park and
Recreation Commission on Thursday, March 2, 1995, 7:00 p.m. at the City
Hall.
ACCEPT EASEMENTS/IP93-30/BUNKER LAKE BOULEVARD FRONTAGE ROAD
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, that we accept the easements and
authorize payment for $7,600 for the purchase of the easements along
Bunker Lake Frontage Road, Project 93-30. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, 1-
Absent (Kunza) vote.
APPROVE PLANS AND SPECS/IP94-1/CITY HALL PARK COMPLEX #1 LIGHTING
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, the Resolution as presented by
Staff. (See Resolution R026-95 approving final plans and specifications
and ordering advertisement for bids for Project No. 94-1, City Hall Park
Complex #1 lighting) Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
APPROVE FINAL PAYMENT/IP92-25/UNIVERSITY AVENUE
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, the Resolution as presented
accepting work and directing final payment to W. B. Miller, Inc., via
the City of Ham Lake for project No. 92-25. (See Resolution R027-95)
Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
ACCEPT DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENTS/FOXBERRY FARMS
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, that the Council accept the
easements for Foxberry Farms on Lots 13 and 14, Block 5 as presented
tonight and as depicted on the map. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent
(Kunza) vote.
APPROVE CLASSIFICATION AND SALE OF FORFEIT LAND
After discussing the parcels that have forfeited, the Council agreed the
City should not acquire any of them and that all of them should be
classified as forfeit land and put up for sale.
SEPTIC SYSTEM UPDATE
Mr. Fursman noted this item is an informational update on the septic
system issue. No Council action was taken.
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The meeting was recessed at 11:29 to hold an EDA meeting; reconvened at
11:40 p.m.
TIF REDISTRICTING
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dehn, the Resolution modifying the
Development Program for Development District No.1 and the Tax Increment
Financing Plans for Tax Increment Financing Districts No. 1-1 and No. 1-
2 to reflect increased geographic area and increased project costs
within Development District No. 1 as presented by Staff. (See
Resolution R028-95) Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
Updates from Attorney - Attorney Hawkins updated the Council on the
progress of the attempt to purchase some of the property south of Bunker
Lake Boulevard that is within the TIF District and on the status of a
case being litigated.
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to approve Claims tonight in the
amount of $352,129.42 as presented by Staff and dated 2-21-95. Motion
carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dehn, to adjourn. Motion carried on a 4-
Yes, I-Absent (Kunza) vote.
The meeting was adjourned at 11:45 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Marc lla A. Peach
Recording Secretary
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