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CITY of ANDOVER
Regular City Council Meeting - october 4, 1994
Call to Order - 7:00 p.m.
Resident Forum
Agenda Approval '
Consent Agenda
Approval of Minutes
Discussion Items
1. Assessment Hearing, continued/91-16/159th Avenue
2. Assessment Hearing, continued/92-27/Commercial Blvd.
3. Assessment Hearing, continued/93-9/Xeon Street storm Sewer
4. Special Use Permit/Real Estate Sign/Fox woods/Gorham Bldrs.
5. Special Use Permit/Kennel License/160 Andover Boulevard
6. Variance/440l-158th Avenue N.W./Stenquist
7. Amend Ordinance 8, Section 8.07, Signs
8. Approve Preliminary plat/Eldorado Estates
9. Discussion/Country Concrete
10. Discussion/Joint Fire Department
11. TIF Map Reconfiguration
12. Sale of City property to ISD III
Reports of Staff, Committees, Commissions
13. Dedication of City Hall Ballfield
Non-Discussion/Consent Items
14'. Approve Revised Grading plan/Jonathan Woods
15. Accept Petition/94-29/1519 - 148th Lane N.W.
16. Accept Feasibility Report/94-29/1519 - 148th Lane
17. Accept Easement/94-3/140th Lane N.W.
18. Approve Change Order 12/94-25/Kelsey-Round Lake Park
19. Authorize Quotes/94-16/Tulip Street
20. National Parenting Association Resolution
21. Receive August Financial Statements
22. Declare Cost/Order Assess. Roll/Delinquent Utilities
23. Receive Roll/Order Hearing/Delinquent utilities
24. Declare Cost/Order Assess. Roll/Mowing Charges
25. Receive Roll/Order Hearing/Mowing Charges
26. Declare Cost/Order Assess. Roll/project 94-26
27. Receive Assessment Roll/Order Hearing/94-26/539-155th
28. Declare Cost/Order Assess. Roll/False Alarm Fines
29. Receive Roll/Order Hearing/False Alarm Fines
30. Order Condemnation/project 94-3
Mayor-Council Input
Payment of Claims
Adjournment
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REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES - OCTOBER 4, 1994
TABLE OF CONTENTS
RESIDENT FORUM . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
AGENDA APPROVAL . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
CONSENT AGENDA
Resolution R239-94 accepting petition/IP94-29/1519 148th Lane 1
Resolution R240-94 accepting feasibility/IP94-29/1519
148th Lane · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
Accept easement/IP94-3/140th Lane NW ........... · 2
Resolution R241-94 approving change order #2/IP94-25/Kelsey-
Round Lake Park · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
Authorize quotes/IP94-16/Tulip Street · · · · · · · · · · · 2
Receive August financial statements
Resolution R242-94 declaring cost/ordering assessment roll/
delinquent utilities · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
Resolution R243-94 receiving assessment roll/ordering hearing/
delinquent utilities · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
Resolution R244-94 declaring cost, ordering assessment roll/
mowing charges · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
Resolution R245-94 receiving assessment roll/ordering hearing/
mowing charges · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
Resolution R246-94 declaring cost/ordering assessment roll/
Project 94-26 · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
Resolution R247-94 receiving assessment roll/ordering hearing/
IP94-26/529 l55th · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
Resolution R248-94 declaring cost/ordering assessment roll/
false alarm fines · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
Resolution R249-94 receiving assessment roll/ordering hearing/
false alarm fines · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
Re1eas~ escrow/Project 88-13/Creek Haven · · · · · · · · · 2
APPROVAL OF MINUTES · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
ASSESSMENT HEARING/CONTINUED¡'IP91-16/l59TH AVENUE · · · · · · · · 2
Resolution R250-94 adopting the assessment roll · · · · · · · 3
ASSESSMENT HEARING/CONTINUED/IP92-27/COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD
Motion to table to November 1 meeting · · · · · · · · · · 4
ASSESSMENT HEARING/CONTINUED/IP93-9/XEON STREET STORM SEWER · · 4
Motion to cancel assessment · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 7
SPECIAL USE PERMIT/REAL ESTATE SIGN/FOX WOODS/GORHAM BUILDERS
Resolution R251-94 granting Special Use Permit · · · · · · · 7
SPECIAL USE PERMIT/KENNEL LICENSE/160 ANDOVER BOULEVARD · · · · · 8
Resolution R252-94 granting Permit · · · · · · · · · · · · 11
VARIANCE/4401 158TH AVENUE NW/STENQUIST
Resolution R253-94 approving variance · · · · · · · · · · · 11
AMEND ORDINANCE 8, SECTION 8.07, SIGNS · · · · · · · · · · · · 11
Motion to approve with no restrictions (failed) · · · · · · · 12
Motion to approve with restriction · · · · · · · · · · · · · 12
PRELI!lINARY PLAT /ELDORADO ESTATES
Resolution R254-94 approving plat · · · · · · · · · · · · 12
DISCUSSION/COUNTRY CONCRETE
Motion to draft business termination agreement · · · · · · · 13
DEDICATION OF CITY HALL BALL FIELD
Motion to dedicate Field 4, City Hall Park Complex #1, to
Brian Sorenson · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 13
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Table of Contents
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CHANGE ORDER TO HILLS OF BUNKER LAKE 5TH/CROWN POINTE EAST
UTILITIES . . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 14
Motion to deny request for change order · · · · · · · · · 15
REVISED GRADING PLAN/JONATHAN WOODS · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 15
Motion to deny revised grading plan · · · · · · · · · · · · · 16
ORDER CONDEMNATION/PROJECT 94-3
Resolution R255-94 authorizing the condemnation · · · · · · · 16
DISCUSSION/JOINT FIRE DEPARTMENT · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 16
TIF MAP RECONFIGURATION
Motion to table · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 17
SALE OF CITY PROPERTY TO ISD #11 · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 17
NATIONAL PARENTING ASSOCIATION RESOLUTION
Motion to deny for lack of information · · · · · · · · · · · 17
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · l7
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
Police department · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 17
Length of meetings · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 17
Code Enforcement Official position · · · · · · · · · · · 17
ADJOURNMENT . . . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 18
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~ CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - OCTOBER 4, 1994
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to
order by Mayor Jack McKelvey on October 4, 1994, 7:00 p.m. , at the
Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmembers present: Dalien, Jacobson, Knight, Perry
Councilmembers absent: None
Also present: City Attorney, William G. Hawkins
TKDA Engineer, John Davidson
Assistant City Engineer, Todd Haas
City Planning Director, Dave Carlberg
City Finance Director, Daryl Sulander
City Administrator, Richard Fursman
Others
RESIDENT FORUM
Charlie Veiman, 13646 Crooked Lake Boulevard NW - was mad, disappointed
and embarrassed with the City's Code Enforcement Officer. He asked the
Council how many calls they received about actions taken by the Officer.
No Councilmember had received calls; the Mayor stated he received many.
~r. Veiman - stated the people ore mad about the letters they receive,
relating an incident of one woman who thought she was being told she
could not hang her clothes on a line outside. It turned out to be a
misunderstanding; but he thought there was a misunderstanding as to what
this Official was to do. He understood the position was to take care of
complaints, not look with binoculars trying to find ordinance
violations. He felt this is getting out of hand, that it goes against
what the people want, and asked to back off the snooping around.
AGENDA APPROVAL
Add Item 12a, Change Order to Hills of Bunker Lake 5th/Crown pointe East
Utilities; and Item 31, Release Escrow/Project 88-13/Creek Haven.
Remove from Non-Discussion/Consent Items for discussion: Item 14,
Approve Revised Grading Plan/ Jonathan Woods; Item 20, National
Parenting Association Resolution; and Item 30, Order Condemnation/
Project 94-3.
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by Jacobson, to approve the amended Agenda.
Motion carried unanimously.
CONSENT AGENDA
Item 15. Accept Petition/IP94-29/1519 148th Lane NW (See
Resolution R239-94)
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(Consent Agenda, Continued)
Item l6. Accept Feasibility Report/IP94-29/1519 148th Lane (See
Resolution R240-94)
Item 17. Accept Easement/IP94-3/l40th Lane NW
Item 18. Approve Change Order #2/IP94-25/Kelsey-Round Lake Park
(See Resolution R241-94)
Item 19. Authorize Quotes/IP94-16/Tulip Street
Item 21. Receive August Financial Statements
Item 22. Declare Cost/Order Assessment Roll/Delinquent Utilities
(See Resolution R242-94)
Item 23. Receive Roll/Order Hearing/Delinquent utilities (See
Resolution R243-94)
Item 24. Declare Cost/Order Assessment Roll/Mowing Charges (See
Resolution R244-94)
Item 25. Receive Roll/Order Hearing/Mowing Charges (See
Resolution R245-94)
Item 26. Declare Cost/Order Assessment Roll/Project 94-26 (See
Resolution R246-94)
Item 27. Receive Assessment Roll/Order Hearing/IP94-26/539 155th
(See Resolution R247-94)
Item 28. Declare Cost/Order Assessment Roll/False Alarm Fines
(See Resolution R248-94)
Item 29. Receive Roll/Order Hearing/False Alarm Fines (See
Resolution R249-94)
Item 31. Release Escrow/Project 88-13/Creek Haven
Mayor McKelvey asked for a motion to approve the Consent Agenda.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, to so move. Motion carried
unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
September 20, 1994, Regular Meeting: Correct as written (Page 14
corrected and resubmitted by Recording Secretary).
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by Dalien, approval as presented. Motion
carried on a 4-Yes, 1-present (Jacobson) vote.
ASSESSMENT HEARING/CONTINUED/IP91-16/159TH AVENUE
Glen Cook, BRA, explained in looking at the water concerns on the Kinnen
property, they found the water did not percolate into the soil as they
had expected. He reviewed the drainage area going to that pond both
before and after the street project, showing the same area flowing to
that low spot. It was developed into a pond because the City had 30
feet of right of way on the south side of the road. They have talked to
the Kinnens about the proposal to take out about 100 yards of material
from the pond and backfill it with sand or other granular material. Now
the pond is filled with about 1 1/2 feet of silt which prevents it from
percolating and draining. With this correction, a five-year storm will
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(Continued Assessment Hearing, IP91-16/159th Avenue, Continued)
still mean water will run onto the Kinnen property. They plan to make
this correction this fall, as well as plant and reseed the boulevard
areas. They would not be putting in new top soil, as the contract called
for salvage top soil for economic reasons. The other outstanding issue
is the City's easements, which he is unable to address.
Mr and Mrs. Kinnen - appreciated everyone's sensitivity toward their
concerns. They wanted assurances the pond will be maintained so it does
not have standing water and to know who they should call when it does
become a problem. They also expressed great frustration over the lack
of communication, as they have been stating their concerns all during
the construction; and Mr. Olson of BRA said tonight he was unaware of
this problem. They wanted a guarantee that this will be resolved, that
it will continue to be maintained¡ and they argued against imposing an
assessment until the work is satisfactorily completed.
The Council and Engineers noted once the project is accepted, it is the
City's responsibility to keep that pond maintained. When there is a
problem, they should call Public Works; and if they receive no
satisfaction, they should address the Council. The Council guaranteed
the removal of the silt and adding of granular material will be done,
stating it is the City's responsibility to see that something is done to
correct the problem. An explanation was also given as to the deadlines
imposed by the county for certifying assessment rolls and the need for
adopting the assessment this evening.
Roosevelt Gaines, 4877 159th Avenue - asked if the Council received a
letter from his attorney on the issue of right of way. The Council
noted they did receive that letter.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dalien, the Resolution adopting the
assessment roll for the improvement of streets, Project No. 91-16, 159th
Avenue NW. (See Resolution R250-94) DISCUSSION: Jim Evertz - stated
he has the same issue of right of way, plus he is being charged double.
The Council continued discussions with the residents, the Kinnens again
expressing frustration over being assessed prior to the completion of
the project and over the high personal cost this entire project has been
because of the drainage problem. The Council again explained they are
locked into the county's time table and assured them everything will be
done to correct the problem. If there is a need for some adjustment to
the assessment because of the drainage issue, a correction to the
assessment can be done in the future.
Dave DeRov, 4820 159th Avenue - asked how someone can be assessed when
they don't actually own property on the road. They had a survey done,
which shows who owns what property; and he is being assessed for
property he does not own. He suggested the Council check into where
that road was placed and where it belonged. Council noted those
residents have already filed an appeal to the assessments. Motion
carried unanimously.
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ASSESSMENT HEARING/CONTINUED/IP92-27/COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD
Mr. Davidson explained he reviewed the proposed assessment for the
Commercial Boulevard project and found that the proposed assessment to
Roger Streich should not have included that portion for Outlot A. The
original roll was based on an understanding that Mr. Streich was to
purchase that outlot. He re-adjusted the assessment to each parcel,
assuming that 25 percent of the costs will be assessed and 75 percent of
the costs will be paid with TIF and State Aid Funds. The adjusted
assessable costs amount to $338,213.20, with the balance to be paid by
the City of $844,932.42. The result is the assessments were lowered for
Mr. Streich and Mr. Runke and were raised for BBP Investments, Inc. ,
Kottke's Bus Service, and Echo Ridge. He did not notify anyone of the
proposed change in the assessments.
Attorney Hawkins advised that because those people were not notified of
the increased assessment from what they were told in the official public
hearing notice, that the hearing be tabled to allow time for that
notification.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, that we table the assessment
until the next regular meeting of the City Council. DISCUSSION: Staff
indicated the county deadline of October 15 would not be met if this
item is tabled. Councilmember Dalien stated extensions have been
granted in the past. He suggested Staff ask the county for an extension
to allow time to notify the property owners. It was agreed to table the
item to the November 1 regular meeting, assuming an extension can be
obtained until then. If a shorter extension is given, the Council
agreed to hold a special meeting following the legal notification
requirement.
Councilmember Jacobson CHANGED the motion to table to the November 1,
1994, regular meeting. Second Stands. Motion carried unanimously.
ASSESSMENT HEARING/CONTINUED/IP93-9/XEON STREET STORM SEWER
Kathv Doucette, 14469 Xeon Street NW - presented her case as to why the
properties in Weybridge 1st should not be assessed. She noted in
January, 1992, the City Council knew that Weybridge already paid its
storm sewer assessment because seven opportunities presented themselves
to the City Council and city officials on this issue. One of the
petition approved by the Council stated Weybridge would be an exception.
A feasibility report received by the City was accepted by the City
Engineers and City Council. There was no mention of storm sewer to
Weybridge Block 1 in either case. Each of the Weybridge phases were
mentioned separately in that feasibility study. Weybridge Phase 1 had
eight line items in that report; and Weybridge 2 had only four line
items. She stated the report was purposely written with specific
verbiage. On page 2 the report also notes the "remaining cost per lot",
which she states confirms the knowledge that the 1992 City Council and
City officials knew that Weybridge Phase 1 had paid their portion of the
costs. It also states that the remaining 13 lots have been provided
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Minutes - October 4, 1994
Page 5
(Continued Assessment Hearing, IP93-9/Xeon Storm Sewer, Continued)
with utilities under the Creek View Crossing development. When pulling
the assessment roll for Creek view Crossing, it shows $850,000 estimated
for water, sewer, and storm sewer construction, with costs payable to
the area east of Xeon of $43,470, which is that area being assessed now.
Ms. Doucette went on that she called the City Clerk to confirm that
Creek view Crossing had paid its assessments in full; therefore, the
assessments for Weybridge Block 1 have been paid. She submitted Project
93-9 is a bookkeeping error and asked that it be dropped.
Mayor McKelvey explained the costs assessed in Creek View Crossing for
that area east of Xeon was for laterals. This project i~ for the area
assessment which doesn't appear anywhere because this was not a project
until June 15, 1993. The lots in Weybridge were never assessed the area
trunk storm sewer charge.
Councilmember Jacobson noted the dispute between the developer of the
Weybridge plats and the City. Mr. Windschitl is saying he paid all of
the storm sewer costs and the City Engineer is saying this area
assessment was not paid. Because this issue is being litigated, he
suggested the Council approve this assessment. If the court agrees with
the City, the assessment would stand. If the court agrees with Mr.
Windschitl, the City would cancel the assessments for these 18 lots.
Mayor McKelvey felt it was the City's negligence that this was not
collected when the Weybridge plats were developed; therefore, the
assessments should be dropped against these lots now. He didn't feel it
was right to go back and collect from the property owners after the fact
Scott Post. 14367 Xeon Street NW - stated his developer should have paid
that $0.04 square foot before he bought his home. He should not have to
pay it. Councilmember Jacobson stated that would be between the home
owner and the developer. Legally, the City can only assess the property
owner at this point.
Ms. Doucette - found according to the City of Andover Assessment Manual
and Policies, pages 8 and 9, statement 3, that the developer should be
paying that special assessment. She asked the Council if they interpret
that policy statement that way, then assumed they did by the Council's
silence. She went on to point out that the Council took the position of
not assessing the area storm water charges against the existing
residents in the Oak Bluff 1st development after the fact. She asked if
this Council plans to discriminate against the Weybridge residents or to
treat them the same as those in Oak Bluff. Mayor McKelvey noted it was
later determined that that particular Oak Bluff area storm sewer
assessment was paid by the developer when developing Oak Bluff 2nd.
Ms. Doucette - noted the decision not to assess existing residents in
Oak Bluff was made before it was determined that the cost was already
paid. On June 15, 1993, the Minutes reflect that it was an oversight
that the Weybridge developments were not included. She asked the Council
to seriously review the information she presented, especially the policy
and procedure statement. Also, if this is assessed and then cancelled,
will they be reimbursed with interest?
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(Continued Assessment Hearing, IP93-9/Xeon Storm Sewer, Continued)
Jerry Windschitl. Ashford Development - clarified that Weybridge and
Weybridge 2 are not a part of any litigation, that the litigation has
nothing to do with any of these properties. He stated the $0.04 square
foot was not uniformly assessed. He reviewed the calculations shown in
the Creek View assessment roll relating to storm sewer assessments,
showing that at the very most, those west of Xeon Street were assessed
less than $0.01 square foot for storm sewers. He asked that this entire
issue be reviewed.
winslow Holasek. 1159 Andover Boulevard - was confused as to where all
the money being assessed the $0.04 square foot area storm sewer is
going. He related all the assessments paid to date by the various
developments comes to about $299,000, excluding Old Colony Estates,
Creek View Crossing and Weybridge 1st and 2nd. He has tried to
understand what the City did with all of this money. Mayor McKelvey
explained there are actually two watersheds, that along Bluebird Street
and this one along Xeon Street, both of which drain to Andover Lake and
outlet to Coon Creek. Some of the funds were used to construct the
trunk down Bluebird and supposedly Mr. Hammel paid part of the Creek
view Crossing in the form of a donation of the lake. He understands
that when both watersheds are ultimately developed, the assessments paid
from all areas will pay for the costs of constructing the storm seWer
with an excess of about $70,000 remaining to be used for the maintenance
of those sewers.
Mr. Holasek - asked to know the costs for the Bluebird Street storm
sewer. He understands a bond has been floated this year for $223,000
for the Xeon Street storm sewer. He didn't understand why a bond is
needed with the collection of almost $300,000 in assessments already.
Mayor McKelvey suggested he and Mr. Ho1asek meet at City Hall to review
the figures of those projects.
Councilmember Jacobson retracted his previous suggestion to approve the
assessment roll and rescind it if the Windschitl litigation is not in
the City's favor. Because of all the confusion with this entire project
and the relatively small assessment at this time, he suggested the item
be tabled indefinitely. At a future date, the Council would again hear
all of the data from the Engineers in order to gain a greater
understanding of this before voting on it.
Mr. Davidson explained the bond issue was to supply the funds to pay the
contractor to construct the facility, with the Xeon storm sewer to be
done this year. The payment of the bond will come from assessing
development as it occurs. Much of that has been assessed over ten years
or longer. The $70,000 for maintenance noted by the Mayor is if the
entire sewer district is developed over ten years and assessed the $0.04
square foot. It is calculated to be $90,000 for maintenance and to cover
the cost of those areas which do not develop within that ten years.
A lengthy discussion continued with residents in the audience.
Residents argued they should not have to pay this because it should have
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(Continued Assessment Hearing, IP93-9/Xeon Storm Sewer, Continued)
been paid by the developer and that nothing will really change a year
from now if this is simply postponed. In some cases the project was
ordered prior to the closing of the house, yet this assessment did not
show up in the assessment search. One gentleman stated his developer is
going to pay the $160 that was shown on his assessment statement because
he closed after the project was ordered. He has inquired why his is
only $160, and no one can given him an answer, claiming the City does
not know what it is doing. Another charged the City is asking them to
pay for its mistake of not assessing the developer during the platting,
stating that is not right. They did not feel they should have to pay the
assessment when they purchased their homes in good faith with the
understanding that all assessments were paid. There was also confusion
as to what this assessment actually pays for, as no work was done in the
Weybridge area for several years.
The Council again explained the assessment is an area charged for storm
sewer to buy into the system. The City's position at this point is that
area charge was never paid for the weybridge 1st and 2nd areas. The
actual construction this year was done north of Andover Boulevard, but
that does not relate specifically to this assessment. Although she felt
the assessment is correct, Councilmember Perry agreed that all the facts
should be reviewed again before making a decision.
MOTION by MCKelvey, Seconded by Knight, that since the $0.04 square foot
was not collected when projects of Weybridge 1st and 2nd were done, that
they now be taken care of by the City and not assessed against the
individual homeowner in that area. DISCUSSION: Councilmember Knight
felt more confused the more he listened to all the information. He did
not think anything would be resolved by tabling it. He agreed the
benefitted areas should pay but that the developer should have been
originally dealt with for this cost. For whatever reason, that was not
done. He was not comfortable with collecting that assessment from the
homeowners at this point. In the beginning he favored the assessment,
but he felt Ms. Doucette had a good presentation and convinced him the
homeowners should not be assessed at this point. He hoped the residents
understood the difficulty in this project. Mayor McKelvey then noted
the hearing should be closed before acting on his motion.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dalien, to so move. Motion carried
unanimously.
Mayor McKelvey reintroduced his motion to cancel the proposed
assessment, Second Stands. Motion carried on a 3-Yes, 2-No (Jacobson,
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SPECIAL USE PERMIT/REAL ESTATE SIGN/FOX WOODS/GORHAM BUILDERS
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, the Resolution granting the
Special Use Permit request of Gorham Builders, Inc., to erect a real
estate sign on Lot 23, Block 6, Fox Woods. (See Resolution R251-94)
Motion carried unanimously.
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SPECIAL USE PERMIT/KENNEL LICENSE/160 ANDOVER BOULEVARD
Glenda Lawson, 160 Andover Boulevard - noted her two letters indicating
the background of her operation and how it is run, one originally sent
to the Planning Commission and the second sent recently to the Council.
Since the hearing, she talked with the neighbors and those who objected.
They indicated to her that they had thought she was going to be building
a kennel, which is the last thing she wants to do. Not wanting to put
dogs in kennels is the reason she runs her operation as she does. Of
the 13 neighbors, only two still objected. Council indicated they have
three letters objecting to this request.
Ms. Lawson - stated she talked with Ms. Neslund after the hearing, who
indicated she really did not hear her dogs. Ms. Neslund did not write
the letter but signed one presented by another neighbor. Ms. Lawson
said she did not ask, nor would she ask, Ms. Neslund to write another
letter rescinding the objection. But verbally Ms. Neslund had no
problem with the proposal. The Council noted only Ms. Neslund could
rescind her objection. They could not accept Ms. Lawson's conversation
with her to void the letter.
Ms. Lawson - stated she owns two dogs and cares for two to six dogs on
the average, sometimes up to ten on holidays. They are like her pets,
and she takes very good care of them. There may be some concern with
noise, but dogs do bark; and she brings them inside whenever that
happens. People run all kinds of machines, and no one complains about
that. She did not like the term IIkennelll, as this is not a kennel.
There has never been a complaint about her operation. This apparently
came about because someone stopped at a house about a mile away looking
for her place, and that person inquired about a kennel at City Hall.
Councilmember Perry explained she is acting as a kennel facility; and
because she is caring for more than 3 dogs, it falls in the kennel
category.
Ms. Lawson - argued she has three acres in a district that allows
kennels; and the only reason this is being denied is because two
neighbors don't like it. She has been doing this for four years, and
those people didn't know what she was doing until this procedure came
about. Mr. Carlberg explained the item was brought to his attention
because of a complaint, and she was advised to go through the Special
Use Permit procedure. Kennel licenses are renewed each year. If there
are complaints, he would bring them to the Council; and the Council
would have to direct him to begin revocation of the Special Use Permit.
Ms. Lawson - stated this is most of her income at this time. It is full
time, 24 hours a day. Councilmember Dalien understood there might be a
problem with barking because the houses are very close together; but he
has had Ms. Lawson care for his dog and she does keep them in her house
and treats them like her pets. That is why he asked her to care for his
dog; he had reservations about leaving it in a kennel. If there are
problems with the neighbors, it should be corrected.
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Minutes - October 4, 1994
Page 9
(Special Use Permit/Kennel License/160 Andover Blvd., Continued)
Karmen Mohlencamp, 140 Andover Boulevard NW - realized there are a lot
of dogs in the neighborhood. They haven't complained because they like
to be good neighbors. They didn't call the Sheriff, hoping it would get
better. When the notice came about this kennel, she realized it would
not get better. The dogs are not always on a leash and they do get into
their yard, sniffing around and making a mess. They can hear Ms. Lawson
calling the dogs for long periods of time. Again last week they heard
her calling and there were dogs in their yard. She's seen Ms. Lawson
walking around the neighborhood looking for dogs. She did not think the
dogs being boarded there were very secure, the concern being with the
ability of the dogs to go out of Ms. Lawson's yard and into their own
yard. Sometimes there are dogs barking, as well as snarling and
growling at one another. She owns dogs, but she has never seen a kennel
where dogs are left to run off the property. If Ms. Lawson wants to
exercise them, they should be on a leash.
Elena Johnson, 206 Andover Boulevard NW - is the closest neighbor with
their bedroom less than 40 feet from the gate where Ms. Lawson lets her
dogs out. She felt Ms. Lawson is getting blamed for the barking by
other dogs in the neighborhood, including her own. There are seven dogs
between her house and two others. She has two dogs, one from Ms. Lawson.
She found it insulting that people would question the welfare of the
dogs under Ms. Lawson's care. She felt there is a difference of opinion
between Ms. Mohlencamp's idea of a kennel who used to breed dogs and Ms.
Lawson who treats them as her pets. She leaves her dogs with Ms. Lawson
whenever she goes out of town, plus Ms. Lawson comes over to care for
her dogs during the day without even being asked just because she does
not like to see the dogs in the kennel. Ms. Lawson takes very good care
of the dogs. When she finds strays, Ms. Lawson cleans them up, feeds
them, makes sure they get their shots, and makes sure the people wanting
the dogs will care for them before giving them to them. Ms. Lawson does
this because she loves dogs. Ms. Johnson stated Ms. Lawson's yard has
less dog mess in it than her own yard does at any given time, and Ms.
Lawson's home is just as clean. people like this are needed so they can
feel their animals are well taken care of.
Ms. Johnson went on to explain that Ms. Lawson was advised to get an
attorney and to ask the neighbors to say they did not write the letter.
Neighbors have said they do not hear Ms. Lawson's dogs. The third
letter in the Council packet is false, as that neighbor has told Ms.
Lawson there is no problem. No one has complained for four years
because they did not hear the dogs. She was upset after the Planning
Commission hearing because it seems like the decision was made before
Mr. Lawson or anyone else could talk. This is Ms. Lawson's sole means
of support. If the Mohlencamp's have dogs in their yard, it was
probably her dogs, as she lets them run, or dogs from some of the other
neighbors. Ms. Lawson did bring dogs to the creek, two or three at a
time and occasionally One would go onto someone else's property. Ms.
Johnson stated they have spent $1,000 on landscaping, and she has no
problems with dogs harming it. Ms. Lawson has now put up a big fence;
and she didn't think the dogs have been in the yard since, as the dogs
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Page 10
(Special Use Permit/Kennel License/160 Andover Blvd., Continued)
are never outside of the fence now. If anyone would hear the dogs at
night, it would be her; and she doesn't have a problem with it. She did
not want Ms. Lawson to leave, suggesting the Council check the place out
and possibly limit the number of dogs she could care for. with this
being the proper zoning, with no complaints in four years, with only 2
out of 13 residents opposing, that is the vast majority appreciating her
being there and wanting her to have this license, and because having
nice neighbors one can count on is why she moved to Andover, she asked
the Council to at least give her a chance.
Bill Aussen, 14810 Palm Street - stated since the fence has been put in,
which he did, the dogs have not gotten out. Ms. Lawson has a zealous
and meticulous attitude toward the care of her dogs, plus the same
desire to have a good relationship with her neighbors. She contacted
just about everyone in her neighborhood since the hearing, and the final
outcome is some of what was presented to the Planning Commission was a
little suspect. Ms. Lawson is clearly willing to allow a permit with an
evaluation period, which he felt would also be agreeable to the
Mohlencamps. The fence is about 5 feet, and there are dogs that can
jump that. The second fence, a six-foot privacy fence, the dogs could
not get out of. It is cyclone fence with a gate.
Ms. Lawson - stated the dogs are never unattended when they are outside
in the fenced area. She has two fences, and she plays with the dogs in
the elongated area. When she goes in, she places them in the other
fenced area.
Ms. Johnson - stated when Ms. Lawson is calling in the neighborhood, it
is generally for the cats which haven't been around for some time. She
does hear that quite often. Mr. Carlberg advised the granting of a
Special Use Permit goes to the property, not the person.
Mr. Aussen had several questions about the findings of fact by the
Planning commission relative to the size of the parcel and what it means
to be a nonconforming lot. Mr. Carlberg explained the Commission
questioned the close proximity of the neighbors as it relates to the
number of dogs that may be in Ms. Lawson's care at anyone time, that
potentially the suggested size of the operation is excessive for the
site. The lot is nonconforming because it does not meet the width
requirement of an R-1 lot. Normally in an R-1 district, the houses would
be further apart because the lot width is 300 feet, so the noise issue
would not be a problem. This lot is only 150 feet wide. The City has
regulated the hours of operation, the number of animals, and the
training of dogs, but never the size of the runs. Mr. Fursman noted if
conditions are placed on the permit and there are problems, it could be
brought before the Council for further review.
MOTION by Perry introducing the Resolution denying the Special Use
Permit request of Glenda Lawson for a kennel license located at 160
Andover Boulevard NW; the reason for the denial are those stated by the
Planning and Zoning Commission in their findings of fact. Motion died
for lack of a second.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - October 4, 1994
Page 11
(Special Use Permit/Kennel License/160 Andover Blvd., Continued)
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dalien, that the City Council approve a
Special Use Permit request of Glenda Lawson for a kennel license located
at 160 Andover Boulevard NW, legally described as the west 200 feet of
Lot 4, Auditors Subdivision No. 141 located north of Coon Creek in
Section 25, Township 32, Range 24, Anoka County, Minnesota, subject to
easements of record if any, for the reasons: the property is properly
zoned R-1 and does conform to the area requirements, although the
Council does know it does not conform to the frontage requirement.
Conditions are that the dogs must be kept within a fenced area except
when they are leashed and in the possession of the person who may be
exercising them at the time. The number of dogs is limited to ten at
anyone time. Instead of the normal one-year review, the Council will
review the Special Use Permit in six months. (See Resolution R252-94)
Motion carried on a 4-Yes, 1-No (Perry) vote.
VARIANCE/4401 158TH AVENUE NW/STENQUIST
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, the Resolution as presented by
the Planning Commission. (See Resolution R253-94 approving the request)
Motion carried unanimously.
AMEND ORDINANCE 8, SECTION 8.07, SIGNS
Mr. Carlberg explained the proposed amendment would allow advertisement
signs by Special Use Permit when used in conjunction with fencing for
recreational facilities. The signage is not to be visible from public
right of ways or residential property as viewed from ground level. The
Planning Commission is recommending approval. The amendment was brought
about by a request of Pov's Sports Bar to have advertising signs around
its ball fields. This amendment is intended for ball fields only and
could apply to the Field of Dreams project as well. He pointed out the
intent was to allow this by Special Use Permit, so the proposed
amendment should be corrected to state, "Advertising signs by Special
Use Permit when used in conjunction with..."
Councilmember Jacobson questioned what is a recreational facility,
suggesting it could also be applied to golf driving ranges, hockey
rinks, tennis courts, snowmobile trails, etc. He felt that much
advertising signage would be visual pollution. He thought the amount
of signage allowed under the current ordinance, approximately 640 square
feet of signs for Pov's, should be sufficient. To him this seems like
spot zoning. Councilmember Knight stated the signage around ball fields
is done all around the country. If done at the Field of Dreams, it
would be source of revenue to maintain the fields. High schools are
selling space on their fences to fund the maintenance of the fields. He
didn't see anything wrong with the proposal. Attorney Hawkins did not
have a problem with the amendment.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - October 4, 1994
Page 12
(Amend Ordinance 8, Section 8.07, Signs, Continued)
Brad Provlitzki - stated his ball fields are four feet lower than Bunker
Lake Boulevard and the majority of the field will be hidden, but there
will be areas that the signs can be seen from the road. He would like
that provision relating to visibility from public right of way removed
from the amendment. He also recommended this be done in the Field of
Dreams project to fund the maintenance. He had a video which he showed
at the Planning Commission meeting on what the fields with the signage
look like at some other facilities. The Council was familiar with such
facilities, and because of the late hour, agreed not to view the video.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Perry, to amend the ordinance to read,
"Advertising signs by Special Use Permit when used in conjunction with
recreational facilities (ball fields)."
VOTE ON MOTION: YES-McKelvey, Knight, Perry; NO-Dalien, Jacobson.
Motion failed for lack of a 4/5 vote required on a change to the
ordinance.
MOTION by McKelvey, Seconded by Da1ien, to amend the ordinance to read,
"Advertising signs by Special Use Permit when used in conjunction with
recreational facilities (ball fields) that are not visible from adjacent
residential property as viewed from ground level." Motion carried on a
4-Yes, 1-No (Jacobson) vote.
APPROVE PRELIMINARY PLAT/ELDORADO ESTATES
Mr. Haas reviewed the preliminary plat of Eldorado Estates which
consists of five rural residential lots. The Andover Review Committee
is recommending approval of a variance for the length of the street.
The Planning Commission is recommending approval.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Perry, introducing the Resolution
approving the preliminary plat of Eldorado Estates as presented. (See
Resolution R254-94) DISCUSSION: Councilmember Jacobson wanted to make
sure the individuals on the east side of Eldorado will not be receiving
an assessment for the construction of that road. Mr. Haas stated it is
up to the developer, Mr. Larson, as to whether he will construct the
road himself or petition the City to do it and assess those who benefit
from the street.
Jed Larson, Developer - stated this was discussed already and a vote was
taken that the corner lot on E1dorado and 165th does benefit by the
roaè. There is no question that the Jensen's benefit from the road.
Councilmember Jacobson questioned the triangular piece where Eldorado
jogs at 166th Avenue. Hr. Haas stated that will be dedicated as right
of way. He also noted that the owner of the property, Mr. Slyzuk did
sign the application. A resident was concerned about the drainage,
noting the problems they have had in the past with the drainage going
east down 166th but which has since been resolved. Mr. Haas stated with
the curb on the road, it should really help the drainage in that area.
Motion carried unanimously.
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Page 13
The Council recessed at this time; 10:25; reconvened at 10:30 p.m.
DISCUSSION/COUNTRY CONCRETE
Mr. Carlberg reviewed zoning violations of the operation known as
Country Concrete and Construction at 16214 Xenia Street NW which has
been operating since 1971. Staff met with the owner and his attorney on
September 20; and as a result, the attorney sent a letter proposing a
resolution to the issue. The proposal is to remove some items and to
basically cease the operation wi thin four years. Since Staff has no
authority to negotiate the resolution of ordinance violations, he asked
for Council consideration and action.
Councilmember Perry stated she received a call from Guy Stanton, 16193
Vintage Street, who has lived in the community for only a short period
of time. He was not troubled by the activities in question, stating the
owner has been a very good neighbor.
Mr. Fursman thought the owner was nearing retirement and was not
interested in moving his operation at this point. The Council was
agreeable to the proposal, recognizing this is setting a precedent if
similar operations are discovered in the City. It was noted, though,
that a lengthy time period was also allowed with the Crooked Lake Tire
operation. Attorney Hawkins felt a different standard could be used for
businesses in operation for 6 months or 1 to 5 years, for example, as
opposed to one like this which has operated for 23 years. He also
suggested there should be a written business termination agreement that
incorporates all the conditions and includes provisions of enforcement.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, that the City Council direct the
City Administrator, Mayor and City Attorney to draft a legal agreement
between the City and Mr. Wayne Knudson, known as Country Concrete &
Construction, Inc. , 16214 Xenia Street NW; and that the agreement be
based upon the points in the letter to the City from Mr. Knudson's
attorney dated September 22, 1994; and that the City request that
consideration be made in addition to the points in the letter to the
construction of a screening fence in the rear of the property for the
storage of used forms for the four-year period, and leave the
determination of that to the negotiators from the City. Motion carried
unanimously.
DEDICATION OF CITY HALL BALL FIELD
Ron Nelson. 1767 132nd Avenue NW. Coon Rapids, addressinq the Council on
behalf of the Andover Baseball Association - explained the five-year-old
son of one of their coaches was killed this summer, and they are asking
that one of the fields be dedicated to the memory of Brian Sorenson
because of his team spirit and attitude toward the game. The Park and
Recreation Commission has given their approval.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, that the City dedicate Field 4,
City Hall Park Complex #1, to Brian Sorenson; and move that we approve
the wood sign to be placed as a part of that. Motion carried
unanimously.
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Page 14
CHANGE ORDER TO HILLS OF BUNKER LAKE 5TH/CROWN POINTE EAST UTILITIES
Mr. Davidson explained originally a commission number was assigned for
the entire Crown pointe and Crown pointe East projects. They have
issued a new number for Crown pointe East only. Jerry Windschitl, the
developer, is proposing the City allow him to have the utilities
extended to his Crown Pointe East plat from the Hills of Bunker Lake 5th
Addition plat up Quince Avenue north to the proposed extension to the
Creek, and east along 141st Avenue to the first intersection. This
would provide approximately 29 lots for development. C. W. Houle, the
contractor for the Hills of Bunker Lake 5th, has faxed an agreement to
a change order to that project based on the same unit prices to extend
the sewer, water, and storm sewer. Concrete curb and gutter and Class 5
base are not in this agreement. The request is for the Council to
approve a change order to the Hills of Bunker Lake 5th Addition to allow
for this proposal subject to review by the Staff. Approval is also
needed for the final plat of what would be known as Crown pointe East
1st Addition, plus the Development Contract must still be completed.
Mr. Houle would begin this project as soon as he is finished with work
on 14lst Lane NW, which should be Thursday or Friday of this week.
Councilmember Perry was concerned with rushing things through, which
then results in costly mistakes and problems. She thought it was
inappropriate to approve a change order until there is an approved plat
and the Development Agreement in place. Attorney Hawkins advised either
the plat must be approved and filed or easements recorded before work
begins on that property.
Mr. Davidson stated it has been very difficult to get all of the plats
out, grading changes reviewed, and other requests of developers so they
can meet their schedules. There are so many things coming in late in
the year. He agreed they haven't been going into new areas without pre-
approval of the plats and right of ways and the Development Contract
signed.
Jerrv Windschitl, Ashford Development - stated the information for the
Development Contract is in Mr. Hawkins' office. He has no problem with
doing these things ahead of the work being done. Normally a plat is
approved on the Consent Agenda, so he felt it is a matter of approving
this plat subject to the Staff's approval before it would be final.
There are no changes to the grading plan which has already been approved
and no outstanding issues to get this project going. If that doesn't
work, he would be willing to sign an easement for public right of way
for the contractor to work on. The reason for the request is because
the contractor is very close to finishing in the Hills of Bunker Lake
5th and because of the weather. At best they have four working weeks
left this year. With this approval, he would be able to meet the cut-
off date for the Preview of Homes next spring.
Councilmember Jacobson had the same concerns as Councilmember Perry.
Also, there have been differences in the past with Mr. Windschitl which
have resulted in litigation; and he did not want to rush this through
and possibly make a mistake or create confusion or misunderstanding on
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Page 15
(Amend Ordinance 8, Section 8.07, Signs, Continued)
some item. Councilmember Dalien had always looked at Crown pointe East
as one project and was concerned with dividing it now. Councilmember
Knight and the Mayor did not have a problem with the request as long as
the City is protected. Councilmember Perry continued to be uncomfortable
with rushing this through, noting people are working overtime just to
meet the developers' requests. The Council has talked about the need to
regulate the development, even limiting the number of building permits.
By continuing to ramrod things through for whatever reason, the Council
is not looking at any of the impacts on the Staff and consultants.
Mr. Windschitl - stated everything was ready to go last November. They
have been trying to get this project done, but they were held up when
the Council denied the rezoning request earlier this year. Another
developer was in the same situation, but he continued to move his plat
along and has that project in the ground. Mr. Windschitl stated he was
of the understanding that he was not to proceed because of the rezoning
denial, and that is why he is here with this plat.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, that the City Council does not
want a change order; and that the request of the developer should go
through the normal procedure for the plat. Motion carried on a 3-Yes,
2-No (Knight, McKelvey) vote.
APPROVE REVISED GRADING PLAN/JONATHAN WOODS
Councilmember Jacobson questioned the drastic changes in the grading
plan. This one shows a pond outside of the platted area. He felt the
approved grading plan should be adhered to by the developers; otherwise,
why have them. Mr. Davidson explained initially the developer was
10,000 yards of dirt short. Now he has 10,000 yards of dirt to waste.
There has been a change in ownership on this plat and Foxberry Farms.
When the grading started, they dropped the street four feet; and they
had the project out for bids already. There is getting to be more and
more of these last minute changes. Most of this is the rush to get work
done before winter, to get the houses sold and to get the contractors
working on their plans before everyone else does.
Mr. Haas explained the developer has purchased the vacant lot on which
a portion of the pond is being proposed, and it will be dedicated as
easement for drainage. The purpose of the ponding is to create walkout
lots. Councilmember Jacobson felt this is the result of poor planning
and that a revision should have been approved before they changed the
grade. Mr. Haas agreed with Mr. Davidson, noting the developers have
been thinking the grading plans are only preliminary. He has been
informing them they are certified grading plans that cannot be changed.
Another problem is the developers' engineers are certifying the grade
meets the plan; but when Staff looks at it, the grading is not even
close to the plan. In addition, the Building Department has discovered
that the certified grading plans for lots are not correct, and seven or
eight were rejected yesterday. Then building permits are not issued
until they are corrected.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - October 4, 1994
Page 16
(Revised Grading Plan/Jonathan Woods, Continued)
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dalien, on Item 14, the reason for this
change is for walkout basements and it puts ponding outside of the
platted areas, move to deny the request on the revised grading and
erosion control plan of Jonathan woods shown in Item No. 14. Motion
carried unanimously.
ORDER CONDEMNATION/PROJECT 94-3
Councilmember Jacobson stated it appears the ponding area is outside of
the plat. He asked why the City is condemning an individual's back yard
for the benefit of the developer when that developer should be providing
ponding in his own plat. Mr. Davidson explained it is really for 140th
Lane, though Hills of Bunker Lake 5th and Crown Pointe East do drain
into it. The original intent was to allow the water to continue going
as it had in the past. Mr. Steele, the owner of this property, had
indicated he wanted to sell that right to the City for $90,000. Mr.
Davidson suggested a value be established through condemnation.
Councilmember Jacobson asked if more property is being taken for ponding
than what was ponding before. Mr. Davidson explained they will control
the level of water runoff. The runoff from 140th will be at a faster
rate after the paving than before. The easement is needed to run the
storm sewer pipe back to the pond. Mr. Steele has said he wants to City
to own it if water is run back there. This is just defining the ponding
which is already defined as wetland. In the mean time, if Mr. Steele is
agreeable, perhaps the City can get a right of entry until it can
legally enter the property.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, to authorize the condemnation on
Project 94-3 on 140th Lane as presented on Item 30 on the agenda tonight
with the proviso that the Staff or Engineers and/or City Attorney
continue to negotiate an attempt to work out a mutually agreeable
solution and price before they complete the condemnation if that is
possible. (See Resolution R255-94) Motion carried unanimously.
DISCUSSION/JOINT FIRE DEPARTMENT
Counci1member Jacobson suggested the City initiate discussions with the
Anoka Fire Department to see if there is some method of combining
services and Departments. He really didn't know if anything could be
done but felt that should be explored. Councilmember Perry also
suggested joining with Ham Lake would be more advantageous so the City
doesn't have to worry about the railroad tracks.
Fire Chief Dale Mashuqa - would have liked to have received a notice
about this. He didn't know if something could be done with other
departments. Andover already has joint agreements for mutual aid with
both cities plus purchasing consortiums, etc. He would be willing to
serve on a committee to research anything the Council has in mind.
Mayor McKelvey appointed Councilmember Jacobson, Fire Chief Mashuga, and
Mr. Fursman to confer with the fire departments of Anoka and Ham Lake
and report back to the Council in several months.
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Page 17
TIF MAP RECONFIGURATION
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, to table the TIF item until the
next meeting. Motion carried unanimously.
SALE OF CITY PROPERTY TO ISD III
Mr. Fursman reported the appraisal for the land across the street from
City Hall came to $10,700 an acre. The school district has offered
$10,000 an acre for the property but has verbally stated they would
agree to the appraised amount. The Council agreed the land should be
sold for the appraised value and directed the Staff to negotiate the
sale for the appraised value per acre.
NATIONAL PARENTING ASSOCIATION RESOLUTION
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, not to sign this Resolution of
support simply because we don't know who they are or what they stand
for. Motion carried unanimously.
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by Knight, approval of the Claims in the
amount of $59,l48.96. Motion carried unanimously.
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
Police Department - Councilmember Knight suggested the City initiate
contact with the City of Ham Lake regarding the possibility of pricing
out a joint police department.
Length of Meetings - The Council discussed several options in an attempt
to shorten the length of the meetings. Some suggestions were to quit at
10:30 unless there is an agreement to proceed; to shorten the discussion
on some items; to limit the amount of time for public input; to follow
Roberts Rules of Order and make a motion on an item before it is
discussed; to hear public input, then close the public hearings before
the Council discusses the item; have individuals register prior to
discussing an item if they wish to speak to that issue; discuss items
first when people are present for them; or have Staff indicate a time
limit next to each agenda item as a guide for Council discussion. Mayor
McKelvey indicated he would take these under advisement in an attempt to
reduce the length of the meetings.
Code Enforcement Official position - Mayor McKelvey stated he is getting
six to eight calls a day complaining about the actions of the Code
Enforcement Officer. A number of calls were about the Official sitting
on the road with binoculars looking for violations, which he thought was
oVer zealous. Mr. Fursman explained the binoculars are only used to
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Page 18
(Revised Grading Plan/Jonathan Woods, Continued)
determine if the license tabs on vehicles sitting in yards are current
because he does not have the authority to go onto private property.
That is the only thing bi~oculars are used for. Councilmember Knight
questioned the wisdom of doing that regardless of why it is being done.
Councilmember Jacobson understood the Official was to handle complaints
received by Staff and anything he could see from the public right of way
without entering onto private property. He also recalled the Council
understood at the time the position was created that there were going to
be complaints and that they were going to take the heat I He asked that
the Council be given a list of complaints written by the Official.
MOTION by Dalien, Seconded by Perry, to adjourn. Motion carried
unanimously.
The meeting adjourned at 12:12 a.m.
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Marcella A. Peach
Recording Secretary
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