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CA CITY of ANDOVER
Regular City Council Meeting-May 3, 1994
Call to Order - 7:00 p.m.
Resident Forum
Agenda Approval
Consent Agenda
Approval of Minutes
Discussion Items
1. Approve Revised preliminary platjWoodland Creek 4th & 5th
2. Special Use Permit/Constance Evangelical Free Church
3. Special Use Permit/Mining/Jim Green
4 . Discussion/Vehicle Wash Establishments/SuperAmerica
5. Discussion/Bruce Lee Studio
6. Discussion/McDonald's Variance
7 . Discussion/povlitzki's Development Proposal
8. Adopt Ordinance Regulating Pawnbrokers
9. Amend Ordinance 8, Section 7.03, Special Uses
10. wittington Ridge Discussion
Non-Discussion Items/Consent Agenda
11. Approve Garbage Hauler Licenses
12. Receive Petition/94-3/l40th lane
13. Approve State Aid Resolution/9l-22
14. Approve State Aid Resolution/9l-28
15. Accept Easement/9l-l0/Lund
16. Accept Petition/93-l8/Pine Hills Area
17. Accept Feasibility Study/93-l8/pine Hills Area
18. Request Speed Study/University Avenue
19. Accept Petition/Sharon's 2nd Addition/94-7
20. Receive March Financial Statements
21. Adopt Resolution Supporting Legislative Initiatives
22. Accept Easements/93-9/Xeon Street
23. Adopt Res./SWMCB Environment Procurement Policies
Mayor-Council Input
Payment of Claims
Adjournment
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REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES - MAY 3, 1994
TABLE OF CONTENTS
AGENDA APPROVAL . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
CONSENT AGENDA
Approve garbage hauler licenses (Michael P. Hall and
William Pickup Service) · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
Resolution R073-94 receiving petition/IP94-3/l40th Lane · · · · 1
Resolution R074-94 approving State Aid/IP9l-22 · · · · · · · · 1
Resolution R075-94 approving State Aid/IP9l-28 · · · · · · · · 1
Accept easement/IP9l-l0/Lund · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
Resolution R076-94 accepting petition/IP93-l8/Pine Hills · · · 1
Resolution R077-94 accepting feasibility/93-l8/Pine Hills · · · 1
Resolution R078-94 requesting speed study/University Ave · · · 1
Resolution R079-94 accepting petition/Sharon's 2nd/IP94-7 · · · 2
Receive March financial statements · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
Accept easementS/IP93-9/Xeon Street · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
APPROVAL OF MINUTES · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAT/WOODLAND CREEK 4TH AND 5TH
Resolution R080-94 approving revised preliminary plat · · · · 2
SPECIAL USE PERMIT/CONSTANCE EVANGELICAL FREE CHURCH · · · · · · · 2
Resolution R08l-94 to approve permit · · · · · · · · · · · · · 3
SPECIAL USE PERMIT/MINING/JIM GREEN
Resolution R082-94 approving permit · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 3
DISCUSSION/VEHICLE WASH ESTABLISHMENTS/SUPERAMERICA . · · · · · · · 3
Motion to refer use in NB zone to P & Z · · · · · · · · · · · · 4
DISCUSSION/BRUCE LEE STUDIO . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 4
Motion to work with Staff and Attorney on PUD concept · · · · · 5
DISCUSSION/McDONALD'S VARIANCE · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 5
DISCUSSION/POVLITZKI'S DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL. · · · · · · · · · · · 6
ORDINANCE REGULATING PAWNBROKERS · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 7
Motion to adopt ordinance · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 8
Resolution R083-94 establishing application fees · · · · · · · 8
AMEND ORDINANCE 8, SECTION 7.03, SPECIAL USES
Motion to adopt to include pawnbrokers, precious metal and
secondhand goods dealers · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 8
WITTINGTON RIDGE DISCUSSION . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 8
Motion to approve geotechnical soils correction · · · · · · · 10
RESOLUTION SUPPORTING LEGISLATIVE INITIATIVES
Motion to table indefinitely · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 11
RESOLUTION/SWMBC ENVIRONMENT PROCUREMENT POLICIES
Motion to table for further information · · · · · · · · · · · 11
MAYOR-COUNCIL INPUT
Direction on resident's pillars · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 11
Patrol of Shady Knoll park · · · · · · · , · · · · · · · · · 11
Septic tank inspector · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 12
PAYMENT OF CLAIMS · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 12
ADJOURNMENT . . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 12
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~ CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - MAY 3, 1994
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to
order by Mayor Jack McKelvey on May 3, 1994, 7:00 p.m., at the Andover
City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmembers present: Dalien, Jacobson, Knight, Perry
Councilmembers absent: None
Also present: City Attorney, William G. Hawkins
TKDA Engineer, John Davidson
Assistant City Engineer, Todd Haas
City Planner, Dave Carlberg
City Administrator, Richard Fursman
Others
AGENDA APPROVAL
Remove Items 21, Adopt Resolution Supporting Legislative Initiatives,
and 23, Adopt Resolution/SWMCB Environment Procurement Policies, from
Consent Agenda and add to Discussion Items.
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by Jacobson, to approve the Agenda as amended.
Motion carried unanimously.
CONSENT AGENDA
Mr. Davidson recommended approval of Item 22, Easements for Xeon Street,
with administrative approval by Staff. The descriptions have been
approved and signed by Mr. and Mrs. Holasek with one minor change.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dalien, to approve the Consent Agenda
with administrative approval on Item 22. (See the following:
Item 11. Approve Garbage Hauler Licenses (Michael P. Hall and
Williams Pickup Service)
Item 12. Receive Petition/IP94-3/l40th Lane (See Resolution
R073-94)
Item 13. Approve State Aid resolution/IP9l-22 (See Resolution
R074-94)
Item 14. Approve State Aid Resolution/IP9l-28 (See Resolution
R075-94)
Item 15. Accept Easement/IP9l-l0/Lund
Item 16. Accept Petition/IP93-l8/Pine Hills Area (See Resolution
R076-94)
Item 17. Accept Feasibility Study/IP93-l8/pine Hills Area (See
Resolution R077-94)
Item 18. Request Speed Study/University Avenue (See Resolution
R078-94)
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Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - May 5, 1994
Page 2
(Consent Agenda, Continued)
Item 19. Accept Petition/Sharon's 2nd Addition/IP94-7 (See
Resolution R079-94)
Item 20. Receive March Financial Statements
Item 22. Accept easements/IP93-9/Xeon Street with Administrative
Approval)
Motion carried unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
April 14, 1994, Special Meeting - Correct as written.
April 19, 1994, Regular City Council Meeting - Correct as written.
April 19, 1994, HRA Meeting - Correct as written.
April 19, 1994, EDA Meeting - Correct as written.
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by Knight, approval of the four sets of
Minutes as presented. Motion carried unanimously.
APPROVE REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAT/WOODLAND CREEK 4TH AND 5TH
Mr. Haas explained the updated plat must meet all current ordinances and
the Water Resource Management Plan. The preliminary plat was approved
by the City Council in 1987, and the only change is where Narcissus
connects with l40th Avenue at the south end of the golf course. Some
minor corrections will need to be made on the grading and drainage plan
on Block 1 of the 5th Addition. In addition, a Tree Protection Plan
must be submitted and be approved by the Tree Inspector prior to the
construction of utilities.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dalien, the Resolution approving the
revised preliminary plat of Woodland Creek 4th and 5th Additions. (See
Resolution R080-94) Motion carried unanimously.
SPECIAL USE PERMIT/CONSTANCE EVANGELICAL FREE CHURCH
Mr. Carlberg reviewed the Special Use Permit requested by the Constance
Evangelical Free Church to construct a new church on property to the
north of their existing facility. The Planning and zoning Commission
recommended approval, requiring the two temporary structures to be
removed at the end of three years. Church officials wanted to move the
temporary structures on their current site to this northern property.
Instead of temporary structures, they are asking to have a permanent
storage and youth center. The Building Official has stated the
structures can remain permanently if they meet all applicable City
ordinances and State codes. Item 3 in the Resolution should be changed
to reflect that.
Church officials stated they have a purchase agreement with another
church to purchase their current facility. The size of the property for
the new church is about 25 acres.
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Minutes - May 5, 1994
Page 3
(Special Use Permit/Constance Evangelical Free Church, Continued)
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by Jacobson, the Resolution with two changes:
The first being to Number 3, that the two structures shown on the plan
can remain as long as they are upgraded to meet all applicable City and
State requirements for permanent structure status. And in Number 5,
that there was a public hearing, and the public concerns were addressed
at that meeting. (See Resolution R08l-94) Motion carried unanimously.
SPECIAL USE PERMIT/MINING/JIM GREEN
Mr. Carlberg reviewed the request of Jim Green for a Special Use Permit
to mine a maximum of 31,000 cubic yards of dirt from property at 2855
l6lst Avenue NW. The Planning and Zoning Commission has reviewed the
request and recommended approval.
Jim Green - noted the intent is to take down a hill in his back yard and
to improve the drainage of the area. He has been the property owner for
one year in March. He owns a landscaping business and wants to use this
as a showpiece, but no business will be conducted on site.
Council was concerned with the effect of the mining on nearby neighbors.
Because of that, it was suggested the permit be limited to one year. If
there are no problems, it can be renewed for another year. Mr. Green
would simply have to come before the Council to request that extension.
MOTION by McKelvey, Seconded by Knight, the Resolution approving the
Special Use Permit at the Green residence; Change Item 12, This permit
is for a one-year period. An extension can be requested and would be
approved by Council if there are no problems. Change Item 1 under the
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, There was a public hearing and
the concerns of the residents were addressed. (See Resolution R082-94)
Motion carried unanimously.
DISCUSSION/VEHICLE WASH ESTABLISHMENTS/SUPERAMERICA
Dave Darvl, Architect for SuperAmerica station, Bunker Lake and Round
Lake Boulevards - explained SuperAmerica would like to construct a one-
bay car wash onto its station. They have been advised by Staff that the
property is not properly zoned to do so. He asked the Council for
direction to be able to construct the car wash. Of the 12 immediate
property owners, all have given consent with the exception of one person
renting the house. However, the owner of that house has approved of
that proposal. He reviewed the layout of the car wash behind the
existing building, so it will be shielded by the building and the fence.
It is about 250 feet from the street to the proposed entrance of the car
wash. About 55 percent of the parcel is used; the other 45 percent is
not occupied, plus the same people own the parcel to the west. He
argued a car wash would add to the tax base of the City and would add
another service to the community. The trend is to offer car wash
services in gas station facilities.
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Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - May 5, 1994
Page 4
(Discussion/Vehicle Wash Establishments/SuperAmerica, Continued)
Mr. Carlberg stated there are several issues to consider. One is the
improper zoning, and in 1989 the Council chose to leave car washes out
of the Neighborhood Business districts. In addition, the proposal would
not meet the rear-yard setback and green space requirements. The
question is whether the City wants to see car washes in the NB
districts.
The Council did not particularly want to see a change in the ordinance
to allow car washes in the NB zones because of their impact on
residents. Though it was noted that the new car washes which are
attached to service stations are quieter, less conspicuous, and less
bothersome to neighboring residents. If they were allowed in the NB
district, they should be attached to the service station, not free
standing, and limit the number of stalls to one. But the Council did
not object to the rezoning of this particular parcel. Mr. Carlberg
suggested it could be rezoned SC, Shopping Center, since it is adjacent
to the Downtown Shopping Center zone. The SC zone is also compatible
with the development to the south in Anoka.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dalien, that we send the matter back to
the Planning and Zoning Commission to look at the possibility of
including a car wash as part of the service station function in an
Neighborhood Business zone. DISCUSSION: Councilmember Perry hoped the
concerns of noise and activity generated by a car wash would be
addressed. Possibly some of those objections have been eliminated.
Councilmember Jacobson stated there could be real problems in some NB
areas. The idea would be to make sure it is built in conjunction with
the service station so it is a integral part of it; but he still needs
some convincing they should be allowed at all. Motion carried
unanimously.
Further discussion noted that an ordinance change would take two to
three months. The owner of SuperAmerica stated he hoped to have the car
wash finished and operating by this fall. Council tended to prefer a
rezoning of the property to SC rather than change the ordinance on the
uses in the NB district. The owner was told he has the option of
requesting a zoning change or to wait to see the results of the
discussions on an ordinance amendment. It was agreed the Staff and
representatives of SuperAmerica will continue to work on this item.
DISCUSSION/BRUCE LEE STUDIO
Mr. Carlberg asked for direction from the Council regarding a request
from Bruce and Diane Dynes to conduct a photography studio at 3315
Bunker Lake Boulevard NW. The property is zoned R-4, Single Family
Urban and is 1.98 acres in size. The adjoining property to the north
and east belongs to Meadow Creek Christian School, and property to the
west is already zoned commercial. The ordinance requires home
occupations be restricted to 20 percent of the residence, and the Dynes
do not feel that is adequate to operate a studio.
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Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - May 5, 1994
Page 5
(Discussion/Bruce Lee Studio, Continued)
The Council generally felt the proposed use of a photography studio is
very appropriate for this unique parcel because of its location, the
existing and proposed uses of surrounding property, and the ambiance of
the site. Several alternatives were discussed to allow the use.
Attorney Hawkins advised the Dynes could apply for a Planned Unit
Development, which allows multiple uses in the same district. They
would apply for the PUD for a residential and commercial use. It would
be a written agreement that specifically sets out what they can do, and
it would be tied to a site plan. The studio and residence would be the
only uses allowed on that site, even if the property is sold in the
future.
At this level of discussion, the Council was favorable to the request
and directed Staff to work with the Dynes and legal counsel to determine
if in fact a PUD is the appropriate vehicle and to expedite the process
as much as possible without neglecting the steps required by ordinance.
Mayor McKelvey asked for a motion to that effect.
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by Jacobson, to so move. Motion carried
unanimously.
DISCUSSION/McDONALD'S VARIANCE
Mr. Carlberg explained the McDonald's Corporation has become aware that
with the widening of Round Lake Boulevard, Anoka County had acquired
additional right-of-way at the site. The new property line is now the
western curb line of the Downtown Center parking lot. This presents a
problem with the proposed layout of the project, as they would have to
remove a substantial number of parking spaces if the 20-foot green space
between the right-of-way and parking areas must be met. McDonald's
Corporation is requesting a variance to the green space requirement and
is asking the item be expedited because of the crucial time frame of
development and construction on the site.
Mr. Carlberg stated without the green space requirement, there will
still be 21 feet of right of way that will be green along both Bunker
Lake and Round Lake Boulevards to act as a buffer. They are also
looking at a joint facilities parking, so a variance will also be needed
for green space in that situation.
Garv Mever, McDonald's - explained they will have an additional 15 to 20
feet of green space along the east and south sides of the building. That
landscaping softens the whole development. If they are not allowed the
variance for green space on the streets, they would have to give up a
row of parking and, in turn, lose the interior green space to make up
for some of that lost parking. McDonald's does not construct outdoor
play grounds when first building a restaurant. Play grounds usually
come one to two years later when they have the ability to assess the
market areas and if there is a need for them.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - May 5, 1994
Page 6
(Discussion/McDonald's Variance, Continued)
The Council generally felt the acquisition of additional right-of-way by
the county created a hardship on the property and advised McDonald's to
proceed with the variance application. Mr. Carlberg stated it will be
heard by the Planning Commission on May 10, then placed on the May 17
City Council agenda for consideration.
The Council recessed at this time, 8:21; reconvened at 8:30 p.m.
DISCUSSION/POVLITZKI'S DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL
Mr. Carlberg reviewed the request by Richard and Brad Povlitzki to
construct a restaurant/bar with two softball fields and two volleyball
courts on Bunker Lake Boulevard immediately west of Anoka Auto Wrecking.
If the Council is interested in the restaurant/bar and recreational
facilities on this premises, the Povlitzki's would make application for
a liquor license and for a Special Use Permit.
The Povlitzki's showed a videotape of the Village Inn in White Bear
Lake, which is similar to the operation being proposed. It is a
complete access controlled environment, with fencing surrounding the
softball fields and volleyball courts. There would be about 400 to 500
parking lots. People must be 21 years old to play. Customers would be
able to eat any place in the establishment. Full-breakfasts menus would
be available. About 50 to 110 employees would be hired. The entire
facility would be completed before it would be open to the public. The
ball fields would be lighted with the lights directed toward Bunker Lake
Boulevard, but all other similar facilities end their games by 11
o'clock. They would not build the facility without a liquor license;
however, they want to create an atmosphere to bring the family. They
would like to begin construction as soon as possible to be able to open
up for fall league softball.
Discussion noted the sign ordinance did not address the signage along
the perimeter of ball fields as shown in the video and which is standard
practice in ball fields. There is 8 to 10 acres of wetland on the site
which cannot be disturbed. The property is about 700 feet from the
nearest residential area. The City owns the designated DNR wetland to
the west of this area.
Councilmember Perry visited the White Bear Lake facility and was
comfortable with such a facility in Andover. She felt this site would
provide no significant impact on residents, that the noise should not be
a factor and the layout should control most of the activities.
Councilmember Jacobson agreed with the proposed facility but would not
support a liquor license. The other Councilmembers were also in favor
of the proposal, but suggested special consideration be given to as much
screening and buffering of the residential area as possible, even though
it is quite a distance away. Mr. Carlberg stated he will continue to
work with the Povlitzki's on their proposal.
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Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - May 5, 1994
Page 7
ADOPT ORDINANCE REGULATING PAWNBROKERS
Mr. Carlberg noted the proposed ordinance limits the number of licenses
to three dealers. If a pawnbroker is also a precious metal dealer, two
licenses would be needed. Councilmember Knight was concerned about the
amount of the license. He questioned whether $2,500 is sufficient to
cover the City's costs in monitoring these dealers. After some
discussion, it was agreed to raise the fee to $5,000 and that Staff will
monitor the City's expenses related to these dealers. The license fee
would then be adjusted either up or down to cover the City's costs.
Council reviewed the proposed ordinance and made the following comments
and changes:
Page 1, Section 1, Purpose, Lines 3 and 4, change to read: "...provide
an opportunity for the concealment of crimes because..."
Page 1, Section 2, Item Containinq Precious Metal: Councilmember
Jacobson suggested junk cars dealers will need a license since the
catalytic converters on cars are more than 1 percent platinum
unless they are specifically excluded. Attorney Hawkins advised the
one percent would apply to the entire weight of the automobile, not
the weight of the catalytic converter; therefore, junkyard dealers
would not be included in this ordinance. No change was made.
Page 1, Section 2, Precious Metal Dealer, line 2: delete "coins or".
to avoid a conflict with Section 3, B. 6.
Page 4, Section 4, last two lines of first paragraph: Councilmember
Jacobson questioned the procedure for renewal of licenses. Mr.
Carlberg explained existing licenses will be renewed if they meet
ordinance requirements. Before issuing a new license to another
dealer, the City would first look at the existing licenses to see
if they qualify for renewal. The renewals would be given priority.
Page 5, Section 5a, line 1, change to: "full name, place and date of
birth, ..."
Page 5, Section 5b, change to: "...legal description of the premises
to be licensed."
Page 5, Section 5c, line 2, change to: "...the applicant or spouse
have been convicted..."
Page 6, Section 8, Renewal Application, Add after the first sentence,
"A renewal application fee shall be required as set by Council
Resolution."
Page 8, Section 10C) 3: Councilmember Jacobson suggested placing a
comma after "electronic" to include all electronic equipment plus
audio or video equipment. The Attorney disagreed, stating the
intent is to include electronic audio or video equipment. No change
was made.
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Minutes - May 5, 1994
Page 8
(Adopt Ordinance Regulating Pawnbrokers, Continued)
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Dalien, th~ ordinance regulating
pawnbrokers, secondhand goods dealers and precious metal dealers within
the City of Andover, as amended. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by Knight, the Resolution establishing an
application fee for pawnbrokers, secondhand goods dealers and precious
metal dealers, changing the fee to $5,000.00. (See Resolution R083-94)
Motion carried unanimously.
AMEND ORDINANCE 8, SECTION 7.03, SPECIAL USES
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, the ordinance change, an
ordinance amending Ordinance No.8, known as the Zoning Ordinance of the
City of Andover as presented. Motion carried unanimously.
WITTINGTON RIDGE DISCUSSION
Mr. Davidson reviewed the background for the crossing of unstable soils
of up to 40 feet deep in Wittington Ridge on l56th Avenue. STS
Consultants had prepared a report in November, 1993; and at that time
the Council rejected the proposal. Due to the technology of geotextiles,
this type of crossing has become more popular in recent years. On
Friday he received a follow-up written report from STS Consultants.
Upon further testing of the soils, STS found the expected consolidation
of the soils could be between 6 to 8 inches over 20 to 50 years.
Alternative methods were discussed at a meeeting with City Staff. His
position is if the method discussed with Staff is done in accordance
with the report as it relates to the monitoring of the methods and
procedures, including the wick drains, he would support it. The fill
would be placed at the rates recommended in the second report. It would
take two years of placement of fill over the system rather than less
than a year that was originally anticipated. TKDA does have someone on
staff with the expertise needed to monitor the project.
Steve Gale, STS Consultants - reported on the details of the method
proposed to cross the unstable soils on l56th Avenue and noted other
projects done using the geotextile material. The geotextile fabric is
computer designed and is a thick mat that will be sewn together and
tested for the strength of the seams. The biggest concern is to make
sure it doesn't fail during construction. The road would not be paved
until the settling has stopped, which is expected in about two years
given the type of soil found in this area. That settling is strictly
monitored. If there is settling after it is paved, the correction would
be to rebuild up the area and repave it.
Mayor McKelvey was not in favor of this method of street construction.
He has seen it fail in other roads, and he worried the City will incur
the liability of maintenance if the road drops six to eight inches after
a few years.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - May 5, 1994
Page 9
(Wittington Ridge Discussion, Continued)
Mr. Gale - felt it is very rare that a road would settle that much; and
if it does, it would happen with two years. That liability can be
handled with a warranty from the developer. Mr. Davidson again stated
he favored the proposal with proper monitoring but cautioned that there
are no absolute guarantees. On the other hand, Andover has many peat
pockets; and if roads cannot be built because of the surface water
management regulations and this method is not allowed because of the
risk factor, then many areas may not get developed. He has talked to
Staff about requiring a five-year warranty of the developer whenever
this method of street construction is used. It would take two to three
years to complete construction, which would give another two to three
years' warranty after the compression is completed.
Jerrv Windschitl, Ashford Development - felt a five-year warranty is at
least one year more than anyone else requires. He would be willing to
give a three-year guarantee after the surfacing of the road is finished.
It is not known how long it will take for the road to settle before
paving, though it is anticipated it will be one to two years. There are
nine lots beyond this low area, and they have looked at all other
possible alternatives to serve them. As far as anyone can determine,
this is the only way of getting there.
Mr. Davidson explained the layering of surcharge, built up to four feet
above the final grade, which would be removed once the settlement
stopped. There would be no access over this area during that period.
Council was concerned about constructing homes on the nine lots prior to
the paving of the road. What is the City's liability to those
homeowners if the road fails? It was suggested the City could not issue
building permits until it is reasonably assured that the compression is
going to hold and that the City would not be replacing that road in a
very short period of time. Mr. Davidson suggested the City not accept
the road until it is completed and meets the City's standards. Until
then, it would be considered a private road.
Mr. Windschitl - suggested that 200- to 300-foot stretch of street not
be blacktopped until 80 percent of the houses are constructed back
there, which would solve the problem of heavy trucks driving over the
blacktop. It is about 400 feet across, and he has agreed to dig out
each of the ends to the depth of approximately eight feet. That
shortens up the center section in which the geotextile will be used.
Mr. Gale - stated there could be no access while it is sand. If it is
graveled, trucks can be run over it; and they typically do. There is a
four-foot cushion and a four-foot surcharge, and it will be a much
better section to support truck traffic than the normal roadway. They
are concerned over the long-term of pressing down of the peat, and the
trucks passing over it will not cause any distress to the peat. He does
not have any concern with heavy trucks going over it. Nobody will want
to build before the road goes on; so possibly a year before it is paved,
the building could start.
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Minutes - May 5, 1994
Page 10
(Wittington Ridge Discussion, Continued)
Mr. Davidson was comfortable that with monitoring, when they determine
there is a substantial slowing down of the compression, then traffic and
building construction could be allowed. He guessed it would take at
least a year. He'd prefer that report come from the geotechnical
engineers.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, that the City Council approve
the construction of l56th Avenue in Wittington Ridge through the use of
geotechnical soils correction and construction methods with the
following conditions:
1) That complete engineering drawings and construction specifications be
drawn and delivered to the City Engineer and approved by the City
Engineer. This being to prevent any future conflict on what should or
should not have been done. Specs and drawings should be agreed upon by
both parties before construction begins.
2) There needs to be approximately two years of compaction on roughly
150 feet of l56th Avenue.
3) That the developer guarantees a three-year warranty on the road from
the date of blacktopping the aforementioned stretch of road through a
Letter of Credit at a price set by the City to guarantee the road can be
reconstructed should there be a failure.
4) That no building permits west of the correction area be issued during
the surcharging period unless recommended to the City Council by the
City's engineering firm.
DISCUSSION: Mayor McKelvey again expressed opposition to the proposal,
feeling not enough testing has been done to be sure it does not fail. He
did not want to see the taxpayers stuck with fixing the road if there is
a problem. Also, he was opposed to the development with only one exit
and, in effect, such a long cul-de-sac. Councilmember Jacobson argued
the plat was approved previously, and the Letter of Credit should be
sufficient to make any necessary repairs. He felt the City should try
this method once and learn from the experience, as there may be other
areas of the City where the City may want to cross using this method.
Councilmember Perry did not think the City should be put into the
situation of having to make repairs on the street it if drops after the
warranty is over. She also expressed concern about what could happen if
a new Council reversed the decision on issuing building permits.
Councilmember Knight felt the expenditure to correct a normal drop in
the road would be minimal, but the City should not stand the risk, and
suggested the warranty be for five years after blacktopping.
Councilmember Jacobson agreed to CHANGE the Motion, Item 3, that the
developer guarantees a five-year warranty on the road... Second Stands.
Motion carried on a 3-Yes, 2-No (McKelvey, perry) vote.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - May 5, 1994
Page 11
ADOPT RESOLUTION SUPPORTING LEGISLATIVE INITIATIVES
There was some question as to the specifics of the proposal the
Resolution supports and why the City should support it. Mr. Fursman
stated as of today, he does not feel this legislation will be approved
by the Legislature. Another issue is the lawsuit against the City of
Minneapolis regarding low-income housing and how the judgement may
affect the suburbs. The surrounding cities have been asked to join the
lawsuit and be supportive of Minneapolis' position. He does not feel
Andover should get involved in that suit. If Minneapolis looses the
lawsuit and the judgement is the outer cities must be responsible for
taking whatever Minneapolis can't handle, then Andover would have to
provide that housing with or without the legislation the proposed
Resolution supports. However, it is difficult for Andover to support
low-income housing without the transportation and other services that
are needed.
It was Councilmember Jacobson's preference to not commit to a position
at this time. Councilmember Knight disagreed with what the proposed
legislation is trying to do.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to table the item indefinitely.
Motion carried unanimously.
ADOPT RESOLUTION/SWMBC ENVIRONMENT PROCUREMENT POLICIES
Council questioned what program is being implemented in order to save
$212 per year. will money have to be spent to get that $212 savings?
Before acting on the Resolution, the Council asked for a copy of what
things are going to be done in its efforts to recycle 50 percent of the
waste generated on its tax exempt properties and at what cost. It was
agreed to table the item to the next meeting.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Perry, to so move. Motion carried
unanimously.
MAYOR-COUNCIL INPUT
Direction on resident's pillars - Councilmember Perry noted the letter
from a resident on the direction given regarding his pillars constructed
in the right of way. Mr. Carlberg noted the Council amended the
ordinance to allow the construction of solid mail boxes, but the pillars
were to be removed since no amendment was made to the ordinance
regarding them. He agreed to send the resident a letter informing him
of the Council action, along with a copy of the Minutes where the
Council directed the pillars are in violation of the ordinance.
Patrol of Shady Knoll park - Mayor MCKelvey stated he informed the
deputies of the problems in the Shady Knoll park area as mentioned in
the Resident Forum of the last meeting, and asked them to patrol the
area more often. Public Works is addressing the light in the park.
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Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - May 5, 1994
Page 12
(Wittington Ridge Discussion, Continued)
Septic tank inspector - Mr. Carlberg stated he will check with the
Building Department and bring something back for the next meeting on the
need for a septic tank inspector to inspect private septic tanks per the
ordinance.
PAYMENT OF CLAIMS
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, the payment of claims as
presented. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by Knight, to adjourn. Motion carried
unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 10:58 p.m.
Respectfully suþmi-!ted, ...
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Mar ella A. Peach
Recording Secretary
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