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~ CITY of ANDOVER
Regular city Council Meeting - November 2, 1993
Call to Order - 8:01 P.M.
Resident Forum
Agenda Approval
Certificate Presentation
Approval of Minutes
Discussion Items
1. Assessment Hearing/Delinquent utilities - 8:01 p.m.
2. Assessment Hearing/Delinquent Mowing Charges - 8:01 p.m.
3. Assessment Hearing/89-1B - 8:05 p.m.
4. Assessment Hearing/92-18 - 8:15 p.m.
5. Feasibility Report/93-21/Cedar Crest Pond, Cont.
6. Timber Estates Sketch plan
Staff, Committees, Commissions
7. Approve Street Specification Change
8. Approve Amendment to Development Contract
9 Approve Annual Improvement Program Guidelines
10. Determine LGU/1991 Wetland Act Permanent Rules
1l. Approve Fire Department Secretary
Non-Discussion Items
12. Approve Law Enforcement Contract
13. Approve Police Liaison/DARE Officer Contract
14. Partial Refund of Escrow/Emerald Glen/93-11
15. Approve Revised Grading Plan/Pinewood Estates 2nd
16. Approve Revised Grading Plan/Leeman Lake Estates
17. Approve Revised Gradins Plan/Hidden Creek East 5th
18. Approve Final payment/92-18 & 92-29
19. 93-1 Hydrant Relocates/payment
20. Receive Petition/Woodland Meadows Street Lights
2l. Accept September Financial Statements
22. Release and Receipt for Damages/92-S
23. Approve Change Order #2/93-6/Watermain
Mayor-Council Input
Approval of Claims
Adjournment
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REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES - NOVEMBER 2, 1993
TABLE OF CONTENTS
RESIDENT FORUM . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
CERTIFICATE PRESENTATION · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion to Approve October 10 Minutes (Withdrawn) · · · · · · 2
Motion to table · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
AGENDA APPROVAL . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 3
ASSESSMENT HEARING/DELINQUENT UTILITIES
Resolution R256-93 to adopt assessment roll · · · · · · · · · 3
ASSESSMENT HEARING/DELINQUENT MOWING CHARGES
Resolution R257-93 to adopt assessment roll · · · · · · · · · 3
ASSESSMENT HEARING/IP89-18 · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 4
Motion to prepare corrected assessment roll (withdrawn) · · · 6
Motion to table to next meeting · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 7
ASSESSMENT HEARING/IP92-l8 · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 7
Resolution R258-93 to rescind Resolution R233-93 · · · · · · 8
Resolution R259-93 declaring cost and directing preparation
of assessment roll · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 8
Resolution R260-93 rescinding Resolution R093-93 · · · · · · 8
FEASIBILITY REPORT/IP93-2l/CEDAR CREST POND . · · · · · · · · · · 8
Resolution R261-93 adopting feasibility/setting hearing date 9
TIMBER ESTATES SKETCH PLAN · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 10
SET SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING (Nov. 16, 6:30 p.m.) · · · · · · 10
CHANGE STARTING TIME OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Motion to draft ordinance change · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 10
STREET SPECIFICATION CHANGE
Motion to approve change · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 11
AMENDMENT TO DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 11
Motion to adopt changes · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 12
NON-DISCUSSION ITEMS
Resolution R262-93 determining LGU · · · · · · · · · · · · · 12
Resolution R263-93 approving law enforcement contract · · · · 12
Resolution R264-93 approving police liaison/DARE · · · · · · 12
Partial refund of escrow/Emerald Glen/IP93-l1 . . . . . . . . 12
Resolution R265-93 approving revised grading/Pinewood Estates 12
Resolution R266-93 approving revised grading/Leeman Lake · · 13
Resolution R267-93 approving revised grading/Hidden Creek E · 13
Resolution R268-93 approving final payment/IP92-18 & 92-29 · 13
Resolution R269-93 receiving petition/Woodland Meadows
street lights · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 13
Accept September Financial Statements · · · · · · · · · · · · 13
Release and receipt for damages/IP92-5 · · · · · · · · · · · 13
Resolution R270-93 approving change order/IP93-6 · · · · · · 13
IP93-1 HYDRANT RELOCATION/PAYMENT
Motion to approve · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 13
ANNUAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM GUIDELINES · · · · · · · · · · · · · 13
Motion to approve (Withdrawn) · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 14
Motion to table · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 14
FIRE DEPARTMENT SECRETARY
Motion to hire Dixie Sanborn · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 14
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 14
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
Legality of directive on conducting business with illegal
home occupations · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 14
ADJOURNMENT . . . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 15
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~ CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - NOVEMBER 2, 1993
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to
order by Mayor Jack McKelvey on November 2, 1993, 8:01 p.m., at the
Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmembers present: Dalien, Jacobson, Knight, Perry
Councilmembers absent: None
Also present: City Attorney, William G. Hawkins
TKDA Engineers John Davidson and Tom Syfko
Assistant City Engineer, Todd Haas
City Finance Director, Daryl Sulander
Others
RESIDENT FORUM
Ken Orttel. 2772 Bunker Lake Boulevard NW - was concerned about the
events of the last Council meeting. There was a room full of people
here to discuss the issues of home businesses, which was completed
around 10:30. He specifically waited until the next agenda item was
called, the MUSA expansion, before he left for home to watch the rest of
the meeting on cable. About a week later he was told that between that
time, the Council had picked up the item again after the break and took
some action on it. He understood one Councilmember felt the business
just approved by resolution was still illegal and asked the Mayor to
blacklist that business. The Mayor did so. The City Administrator
asked that it apply to all illegal businesses in the City, which was
also done. He was concerned that there is some evidence that the issue
was discussed during the Council break, then put back onto the agenda.
Mr. Orttel stated during the break the Council is not allowed to discuss
items planned to be put back on the agenda. Secondly, the City is
required to abide by Robert's Rules of Order, which has no provision to
bring up an item that has been closed. Since the next agenda item had
already been called, the change in policy was really discussed under the
MUSA expansion. He also pointed out that under Andover' s form of
government, it takes a majority vote to set policy, not just a
Councilmember and Mayor acting together; therefore, he felt the policy
change would be ineffective. Also, there is nothing in the resolution
that indicates Crooked Lake Tire is an illegal business. On the
contrary, it is the only business in the City that has its own
resolution allowing it to remain in business.
Mr. Orttel was also concerned about the policy of blacklisting local
businesses. As directed, he felt the employees can only decide not to
do business in Andover for fear of being dismissed if the business turns
out to be illegal. Usually it is found in hindsight that a business is
improper, so the only thing Staff can do to protect themselves is take
all of the City business outside of the City. He felt that is unfair to
those businesses in Andover and is costly to the taxpayers. Most other
cities require, to the greatest extent possible, doing business within
the city. He gave several examples of Andover contracting with local
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Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - November 2, 1993
Page 2
(Resident Forum, Continued)
residents for specific jobs, which he felt in hindsight could be
considered illegal. Yet the contract benefitted both the city and the
resident. Doing business with local businesses is convenient, there is
excellent quality, and it is less costly. He felt the directive is
sending the wrong message to the employees, that the only smart thing to
do is to leave town. He felt the situation was handled improperly,
after all the residents interested in the item had left. He felt the
Council owed the residents an apology; and if it was discussed during
the break, which is verifiable because the audio portion of the tape was
left on, there should be an investigation.
Council noted the policy had been discussed in the past. Councilmember
Perry stated she simply asked for clarification if the previous
directive would stand not to do business with Crooked Lake Tire because
it is illegal. Mr. Orttel didn't believe the resolution says it is an
illegal business. Councilmember Jacobson noted the Minutes reflect the
MUSA was discussed after the directive on home businesses. Mr. Orttel
concurred that is what the Minutes state; but the tape will reflect that
the MUSA expansion agenda item was called before the break, before he
left this room. He suggested the Council give further thought on the
policy before implementing it, because it will cost the City a lot of
money and the employees will worry about losing their job if they do
business within the City. He felt they owe it to the public to place it
on a published agenda for discussion so residents may have input.
Mayor McKelvey explained the Planning Commission has been asked to look
for ways some of the businesses can be made legal. Councilmember Knight
clarified he was in the bathroom and in the lobby talking with residents
during the break and heard nothing mentioned regarding the policy. Mr.
Orttel stated the City should have the original tape if anyone is
interested in viewing it.
CERTIFICATE PRESENTATION
Mayor McKelvey presented a plaque from the Andover Fire and Rescue
Department to Jim Nelson expressing appreciation for his heroic efforts
in saving his family on October 22, 1993.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
October 19, 1993
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by Knight, the Minutes of October 19 as
presented. DISCUSSION: In light of Mr. Orttel's comments during the
Resident Forum, Councilmember Jacobson suggested the tape be viewed to
make sure the Minutes are accurate. Councilmembers Knight and Perry
then withdrew the Second and the Motion.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dalien, to hold the Minutes to the next
meeting. Motion carried unanimously.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - November 2, 1993
Page 3
AGENDA APPROVAL
Add Item 6a, Set Special City Council Meeting; and Item 6b, Change
Starting Time of City Council Meetings.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, to approve the Agenda as amended.
Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Knight to take the items where people are here instead of
having them wait. DISCUSSION: Planning Commission Chairperson Bonnie
Dehn cautioned people depend on the agenda as published in this order.
Changing the order may cause more confusion that good. Mr. Sulander
noted the agenda procedure is set by ordinance, and it would take a
revision of the ordinance for any change to the operating procedure of
the meeting. Attorney Hawkins stated most items are arbitrarily listed
on the Agenda by Staff, and the Council can make reasonable changes if
necessary. Councilmember Knight withdrew the motion at this time.
ASSESSMENT HEARING/DELINQUENT UTILITIES
8:22 p.m. There was no public testimony.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dalien, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by Dalien, the Resolution adopting the
assessment roll for the certification of delinquent sewer, water and/or
street lighting service charges as presented. (See Resolution R256-93)
Motion carried unanimously. 8:25 p.m.
ASSESSMENT HEARING/DELINQUENT MOWING CHARGES
8:25 p.m. Hubert Smith - asked how long the grass must be before the
City will mow it. He has called in the past for tall grass on City-
owned property, and the City has not been very responsive. Mr. Sulander
reviewed the policy for mowing of weeds. The Council agreed the City
must follow the policy as well. Mayor McKelvey then asked for a motion
to close the public hearing.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, to so move. Motion carried
unanimously.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, the Resolution that has been
prepared for us on delinquent mowing charges. (See Resolution R257-93)
Motion carried unanimously. 8:29 p.m.
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Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - November 2, 1993
Page 4
ASSESSMENT HEARING/IP89-18
8:29 p.m. Mr. Haas explained the properties west of Jay Street have been
assessed in the past. This assessment is for the properties east of Jay
street to Hanson Boulevard. There will be further assessments east of
Hanson Boulevard when that develops in the future.
Bill Ottensman, Director of Public Works, Citv of Coon Rapids - reviewed
the background of Project 89-18, the drainage and benefitted areas, the
agreement between Coon Rapids and Andover to share the cost of the storm
drainage system with costs apportioned to the benefitted areas. The
entire basin was designed and a cost of the entire trunk system
determined partly on actual bids and partly on estimates. This was
modified for certain portions of the system which had direct lateral
access. The remaining cost was divided by the total area draining into
the system with some modifying factors such as residential property has
less runoff than commercial property. Parts of the system are not
completed and will be assessed at a later date, principally the area
east of Hanson Boulevard. The costs determined in 1988 have been
updated to today's construction dollars according to the construction
cost index.
Mr. Syfko reviewed the original assessment of January, 1989, which
included a small strip of the land immediately east of Jay Street. That
portion east of Jay Street was assessed; however, the assessment was
deferred. The individual parcel owners did not pay, but Andover did pay
the City of Coon Rapids for those assessments. He reviewed the trunk,
lateral, and the deferred assessment east of Jay Street brought forward
at today's dollars.
Discussion centered on the deferred assessments for the strip of land
east of Jay Street. The Engineers explained only two property owners
are involved, Hubert Smith and Tony Emmerich. The total assessment
figure reflects the balance of the assessment on the property plus the
deferred assessment with interest.
Hubert Smith - stated of the $810.87 deferred assessment, $644 of that
is interest. The actual assessment was $166. The assessment in 1989
was for the lateral, which was not installed yet. He was now given a
credit of approximately $1,500 in this assessment because the laterals
were included in the 1992-18 Jay Street project; but he didn't get any
credit on the interest of that deferred assessment. He asked how that
much interest could accumulate when some of the cost was deferred and
some of it was credited. The Council and engineers explained the money
paid to Coon Rapids was for the storm water runoff for the total area
along Jay Street. With the property to the east being developed, that
area now is being assessed at this time. Mr. Syfko explained the $644
in interest is based on the original 1989 assessment of $1,747.
The Council also questioned the charge of interest for the laterals that
were not installed and subsequently not billed. Mr. Smith shouldn't be
charged interest on the rebated portion of the assessment. Mr.
Davidson stated the City must look at a policy of whether or not to
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Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - November 2, 1993
Page 5
(Assessment Hearing/IP89-18, Continued)
charge interest on the assessment from 1989 until today, recognizing the
City had to pay the money to Coon Rapids back in 1989. In the mean time,
the interest has been a part of the City's cost. The property owners did
have the choice to pay the assessment within 30 days in 1989 rather than
having it deferred. He suggested the Council could reduce the assessment
by the interest on the lateral portion that has been credited.
Mr. Smith - questioned if Andover is going to get interest back from
Coon Rapids for the overpayment of the assessment. He thought Mr.
Davidson's suggestion was fair. Mr. Smith stated he is also being
charged for laterals on his property, even though there are no pipes
onto his property. Other parcels of 3.79 acres have no laterals charged
to them even though their water has to be running into the pond just
like his does. Staff has not satisfactorily answered why he gets charged
for laterals but the other lots do not. Mr. Davidson stated the reason
most of the area east of Jay Street was not assessed in 1989 was because
it was not known how it would be developed. When development did occur,
the storm drainage system was designed and is now being assessed. The
reason laterals were not assessed for portions of the east is because it
is not known what the lot benefit will be until it develops.
Mr. Smith - stated in August, 1992, when the feasibility was done, which
included the storm sewer/ the Council took action that he was to be
credited as one unit of an 80' x 150' lot. At today's prices, the
assessment should be $1,091.09, which is what he feels the assessment
should be based on that agreement. Staff tells him that the one unit
applies strictly to Jay Street, but it was his understanding in 1992
that it would apply to this project as well.
Ken Orttel - was the Mayor at the time of the Council action, reviewed
some of the problems with Mr. Smith's property, the intrusion into his
property, the taking of property for ponding leaving a parcel that was
oversized but not subdividable. One Councilmember had even suggested no
assessment at all because of those problems. It was his understanding
the Council concession was to treat Mr. Smith as one unit, the same as
the other lots in the area. Councilmembers Knight and Perry had the
same recollection.
Mr. Davidson stated Mr. Smith's lot has been adjusted to .2 acre for the
assessment. Mr. Smith - agreed that adjustment had been made last
Friday. The only remaining issue then is the interest on the credited
portion of the storm water lateral assessment. The Council generally
agreed the interest should not be charged for that portion of the 1989
assessment that has now been credited. They asked if Andover would be
paid interest by Coon Rapids on the $7,836.90 credit for that
overpayment for the storm sewer laterals.
Mr. Ottensman - stated he would research it further but guessed there
would be some interest included in the refund if Andover overpaid the
assessment. Paying interest on the refund sounds reasonable, but he
will check it out and let the Staff know how much that interest would
be.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - November 2, 1993
Page 6
(Assessment Hearing/IP89-18, Continued)
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dalien, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, introducing the Resolution
prepared for the Council adopting the assessment roll for the
improvement of storm drainage, making two changes: First change to be
in the new preliminary assessment roll that the Council was provided by
the engineering firm tonight. On that roll it indicates that for Mr.
Hubert Smith, his total assessment is $1,604.39, that that assessment be
refigured to deduct the interest that was overly charged over a five-
year period to reflect the actual benefit he received, what that would
cost and the interest on that benefit be calculated, and not on the
total amount assessed originally and then rebated. Second part, in the
approximately $7,000 credit that we are to receive from Coon Rapids,
that it should be bearing interest and payable to the City.
DISCUSSION: Mr. Syfko pointed out that the calculations to determine the
$644 interest to Mr. Smith were done exactly the same for Mr. Emmerich,
whose interest is shown as about $3,000. If there is to be a
recalculation for Mr. Smith, that same recalculation should be done for
Mr. Emmerich, who was also given a credit for storm sewer lateral. Those
are the only two property owners involved in that credit. Councilmember
Perry noted Mr. Emmerich specifically purchased the property for
development, but that through this entire process, Mr. and Mrs. Smith
were left with property that could not be subdivided. She didn't think
the two are parallel. Councilmember Jacobson felt if the two are
similar, then Mr. Emmerich should be given the reduction in interest as
well. But for now he didn't have enough information to determine if the
two are the same or not. Mayor McKelvey also stated the property owners
have changed on the property since 1989. Mr. Davidson stated that would
not matter, since no actual refund was given. The credit is being given
in a reduction to the assessment on this roll.
Attorney Hawkins advised if the Council is not sure about the numbers,
they may not want to adopt the roll until a corrected one is brought
back. If the roll is approved tonight, any change would have to be done
through a supplemental roll. Mr. Haas felt it would be possible to
table adoption of the roll until the November 16 meeting, as the county
has said they will accept the roll until December.
Mayor McKelvey asked how the project is affected if the interest is
recalculated. The engineers explained it only affects the lots along the
east side of Jay Street, which are owned by Mr. Smith and Mr. Emmerich.
There would be no shortage in the project if the interest is not
calculated on the credited portion of the lateral assessment. Mayor
McKelvey suggested the assessment roll be recalculated and brought back
to the next meeting. Councilmember Knight stated the same principle
must be applied to both parties.
Councilmembers Knight and Jacobson withdrew the Second and the Motion.
The Council directed the engineers to recalculate the assessment roll so
that interest will not be applied to the credit given to Mr. Smith and
Mr. Emmerich for the 1989 storm sewer lateral assessment.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - November 2, 1993
Page 7
(Assessment Hearing/IP89-18, Continued)
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, that we table resolution
adopting the assessment roll until the next City council meeting so the
engineers can bring back the revised figures. Motion carried
unanimously. 9:21 p.m.
ASSESSMENT HEARING/IP92-18
9:21 p.m. Mr. Syfko reviewed the Jay Street improvement project. The
feasibility study considered 150 feet on either side of the street, with
Jay Street going straight north to the edge of the Hurst property.
There is a revision because with the development of Echo Woods, it was
determined that Jay Street will turn 90 degrees to the west rather than
go straight through. The cost has been split 50 percent to the east
side, 50 percent to the west side of the road, with 13 lots considered
assessable units on each side. By a previous agreement the Council
made with the Hursts, the assessment against the Hurst property for two
units would be deferred until they either sell or develop the parcel.
Mr. Syfko stated the City has received letters from Hokanson Development
and Tony Emmerich Construction, both saying they agreed with the
proposed assessment.
Sue Hurst, 13440 Jav Street - read a letter for the record requesting
the assessments for IP92-l8 pertaining exclusively to unit assessments
abutting Jay Street in the proposed amount of $9,259.76 be levied at
this time. They choose to waive only this portion of Resolution R093-93
deferring improvements on their property for Improvement projects 92-10
and 92-18. Other assessments against the projects with regard to these
two projects will remain in compliance with that Resolution. She
explained the reason for the request is that they had originally thought
the assessment would total approximately $37,000. In reviewing the
costs with the Mayor and Mr. Haas, they realize that they would only be
assessed for Jay Street; and they feel they can pay the $9,259.76 at
this time.
Mr. Haas explained with this request, there would be no deferred
assessment against the Hursts from these two projects. That portion
within the Hurst property will be picked up by the City Trunk Funds and
will be paid back to the City with no interest at the time the property
is developed.
Jerrv Windschitl. 3640 152nd Lane, representinq Ashford Development and
Shamrock Development - stated in their assessments, they were raised
about $310 per lot from what they were notified at the public hearing.
If everyone has submitted waivers, they too would agree to the
assessment and waive the public hearing. Mayor McKelvey asked if Mr.
Smith, the only remaining parcel not yet heard from, agrees with the
assessment. The adjustments were only on the west side of the street,
and the Hursts and Hokanson Development have already agreed with the
proposed assessments.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - November 2, 1993
Page 8
(Assessment Hearing/IP92-18, Continued)
Hubert Smith - asked if there was a change to his proposed assessment.
The engineers said no. Mr. Smith then agreed with the proposed
assessment for this project.
Mr. Windschitl - submitted a letter so the item does not have to be
recalled. They accept the assessment as proposed of $6,763 per lot.
Mr. Smith - complemented the Staff and construction workers, all of whom
were exceptionally helpful and made sure they were interrupted as little
as possible. Mayor McKelvey then asked for a motion to close the
public hearing.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, to so move. Motion carried
unanimously.
Mayor McKelvey then asked for a motion rescinding Resolution R233-93
(declaring cost and directing preparation of assessment roll for 92-18).
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, to so move. (See Resolution
R258-93) Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, declaring cost and directing
preparation of assessment roll for improvement of sanitary sewer,
watermain, street and storm drain for Project No. 92-18, Jay Street NW,
as presented. (See Resolution R259-93) Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, upon advise of Staff, Council
rescinds our Resolution No. 093-93, which is a Resolution deferring
assessments of property owned by Kurt W. Hurst and Susan D. Hurst. (See
Resolution R260-93) Motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Haas stated with everyone in agreement with the proposed assessment,
the public hearing will be waived. He will obtain those waivers for the
next Council meeting, at which time the Council will be asked to adopt
the Resolution approving the assessment roll for this project. 9:42 p.m.
FEASIBILITY REPORT/IP93-21/CEDAR CREST POND, CONTINUED
Mr. Syfko explained they had been asked by the Council to consider
possible alternatives for the storm drainage project. The previous study
looked at a gravity pipe outlet from the pond for a total project cost
of about $79,400. They looked at dredging the pond and excavation
beyond the existing pond to the east and west within the park property
to increase the capacity of the pond. Some of the excavated material
would be placed on Lot 5 for fill to benefit the homeowner. They have
found that this excavation alternate would result in the same as what is
out there now only with a different configuration, as the volume of the
pond could only be increased by 20 to 30 percent for an estimated cost
of $40,000. They did not look at the possibility of purchasing property
from other neighbors to increase the size of the pond. Mayor McKelvey
felt that increasing the capacity of the pond and filling in Lot 5,
which is the only lot that is really affected, would solve the problem.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - November 2, 1993
Page 9
(Feasibility Report/IP93-2l, Cedar Crest Pond, Continued)
Terrv Hausam, 3731 l72nd Lane, Lot 5 - did not agree with the Mayor. He
stated the pond was expanded on one other occasion and fill placed on
his property. With everything done in the past, they are still having
problems. Everybody that had a road assessment paid for that pond to be
the answer to the water problems in that area. It has not solved the
water problem, and there has been additional expense to expand it and
pump it. Now the Council is talking about $40,000 to backfill his
property and possibly get easements on his neighbors' property to expand
the pond; but he cannot be guaranteed 100 percent that the pond will not
flood again. He felt the City should not be throwing money into the
pond any more, but that it should be done right and provided an outlet.
Mrs. Hausam - asked about the agreement they had with the City that the
pond would be pumped whenever the water reached a certain level. They
were frustrated that the pumping was stopped this fall before it was
pumped down far enough. Mayor McKelvey stated the neighbors did not
want the pond pumped dry. He walked the area the night it was pumped,
and the water was well below the water line at the time the pumping was
stopped. It was down about three feet.
Mr. Hausam - said he didn't want it pumped dry either, but it wasn't
pumped down enough. Two days later he had to buy a pump and pump the
water from his own property back into the pond because it wasn't drained
properly. He also had to dig a ditch to get the water to run back into
the pond. He pointed out the topography of his lot and had pictures of
his back yard when the pond floods.
Discussion continued on what happened with the pumping this fall. Mr.
Hausam also noted that to fill the back of his lot would require four to
five feet across all of his property. That would also destroy the
majority of his large trees in the back. Councilmember Jacobson pointed
out the intent was to obtain costs of other alternatives to resolve the
ponding issue. With that, he suggested the public hearing be set to
allow the residents to hear the proposals and to comment.
Georqe ?, 3734 l74th Avenue - stated this pond was originally on the
Hausam property, and then a house was built on the lot. Who pays for
this? Mayor McKelvey stated an assessment would be placed against the
total watershed, the homeowners in the area.
Mr. Hausam - stated he bought the home, and there was no problem with
water until the water from the entire area was drained into that pond.
Mr. ? - stated apparently the pond doesn't handle the water in the very
wet years. He'd like to see the cost to have this pumped each time it is
wet, as that does not occur very often. Mr. Davidson stated they looked
at a permanent pump alternative, but it is more than a piped outlet.
Mayor McKelvey said it cost about $4,000 to pump this fall. The Council
then agreed to call for a public hearing on the proposal.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dalien, to adopt the feasibility report
and set the date for the public hearing for December 7, 1993. (See
Resolution R261-93) Motion carried unanimously.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - November 2, 1993
Page 10
TIMBER ESTATES SKETCH PLAN
Mr. Haas reviewed the sketch plan of Timber Estates which consists of 34
lots of 2.5 acres each. He noted the comments of the Andover Review
Committee to eliminate direct access of lots onto Tulip Street, that the
two northerly east and west streets be designed with no horizontal
curves, to try to eliminate one of the accesses onto Round Lake
Boulevard, that the ditch would be the boundary for lots, and that the
developer will be required to obtain all necessary permits and meet
ordinance requirements. The Planning and zoning Commission generally
agreed with the recommendations of the Review Committee. The Park and
Recreation Commission proposed accepting cash in lieu of land.
Council discussed the deteriorated condition of Tulip Sreet, noting this
plat will add additional traffic onto it. Mr. Haas stated the Road
Committee will be discussing the construction of MSA streets next year,
and Tulip will be one the Staff will be recommending for construction.
Bvron Westlund. Woodland Development - explained there is an existing
house on Lot 3, Block 6, which would stay. It faces Round Lake Boulevard
now. They also agree with the recommendations of the ARC Committee, so
the street will go through and the proposed eyebrow will be eliminated.
Mr. Haas again noted no lots will access directly to Tulip or Round Lake
Boulevard except the existing parcel in the southeast corner.
The Council generally agreed with the proposed sketch plan and
recommendations of the ARC Committee.
SET SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING
The Council agreed to meet at 6:30 a.m., Tuesday, November 16, 1993, to
discuss the position of City Administrator, seek a consultant to do a
needs analysis for the proposed expansion of the City Hall and Public
Works facilities, plus review the Sewer, Water and Equipment Budgets.
CHANGE STARTING TIME OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Because some of the Council meetings get lengthy, Councilmember Jacobson
proposed the starting time of the meetings be changed to 7:00 p.m.
beginning January 1, 1994.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, that the Council authorize Staff
to draft an ordinance change to allow the Council to begin its meeting
at 7 p.m. beginning January 1, 1994. DISCUSSION: Mr. Sulander asked if
the Council is interested in changing the format of the agenda to
include the block motion for non-discussion items at the beginning of
the meeting. The procedure would be a motion is introduced to vote on
those specific items. If anyone wishes to discuss an item, it can then
be removed from the block motion to discuss in the normal order on the
agenda. The Council agreed to make that change to the ordinance as
well. Motion carried unanimously.
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Minutes - November 2, 1993
Page 11
APPROVE STREET SPECIFICATION CHANGE
Councilmember Knight reported the recommendation of the Road Committee
is to change the street specifications from two inches to two and one-
half inches beginning the construction season of 1994. The intent is
that it would not affect plats on file and in the process of
construction; only new filings. In urban areas, the first 1.5 inches
would be placed during the initial construction with the final one inch
placed the following year to allow one freeze/thaw cycle to occur. In
rural areas, the specification will require the 2.5 inches be placed all
in one lift.
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by Dalien, to accept the recommendation of the
Road Committee to increase the thickness of the bituminous from 2 to 2.5
inches for both the rural and urban area as presented. Motion carried
unanimously.
APPROVE AMENDMENT TO DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT
Mayor McKelvey reviewed the recommendation of the Development Committee
Task Force for three changes to be included in the development contract
for urban development, and the one change in the development contract in
the rural developments.
Jerrv Windschitl. Ashford Development - had a problem with the last line
of Item 2, that no Certificate of Occupancy would be issued until the
first 1 1/2 inches of bituminous has been placed. He questioned the
need for bituminous when Class 5 streets are perfectly acceptable roads
for the emergency vehicles in any other part of the City. It has the
potential problem of starting a house during the year and having it set
for a period of time before it can be occupied if there is a problem
getting in the bituminous. But they would be able to get the occupancy
permit in the rural area on a Class 5 road. Mr. Haas explained the
proposal is to eliminate the problems which have occurred in the Meadows
of Round Lake and Pine Wood Estates plats.
After discussing this issue further, the Council agreed to add a
stipulation that exceptions would be made if there are exceptionally
unusual circumstances as to why the bituminous cannot be laid down.
Mr. Windschitl - also noted that those cities requiring the thicker
bituminous are generally dealing with severe soils problems. He wished
a comparison would have been done with cities that have soils similar to
Andover, such as Coon Rapids, Ramsey, etc. He didn't feel Andover
generally had soils problems, noting the additional cost is just being
passed on to the future homeowner. Plus it means an increase in cost to
the residents as streets are reconstructed in the future.
Councilmember Knight stated the Development Committee Task Force had
discussed this at length, and there was no problem. Mayor McKelvey
noted there was a problem, and that is why Mr. Emmerich did not come to
the last meeting because he felt the requirement was going to be passed
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Page 12
(Approve Amendment to Development Contract, Continued)
any way. Mr. Emmerich felt that once the Class 5 was down, it met the
Fire Department standards. The increased bituminous was the request of
the streets department to be able to plow in the winter. It was also
pointed out during the discussion that with the proposed scheduling to
require applications to be in early to be able to bid and begin
construction early in the spring, many of the scheduling problems can be
eliminated. The engineers also explained that an additional ring will
be added to the manhole covers to raise them in the spring when the
final one inch of bituminous is installed. That way the manhole covers
are not raised or creating an obstacle for snow plowing. They also
explained that the final inch is being required after the first
freeze/thaw cycle rather than after 80 percent of the houses are
constructed, because it has been found that it can be three years or
more in some cases before that percentage is reached. Mayor McKelvey
noted if the Metropolitan Council is not timely in granting additional
acres for MUSA within the City, the proposed scheduling of developments
will have to be reviewed again. As proposed, the developers will be
told it will be a six-month process from the time they apply for the
plat to when construction of the homes can begin.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, that the Council adopt the
approved recommendations and changes to the Development Contract with
the following changes from what has been presented to us tonight:
In Item No.3, the last line which begins, ·..default has been...·, that
last line be changed to read as follows: ·..default has been inspected
and corrected to the satisfaction of the City.·
Change in Item No. 2 in the last line which begins, . half inches of
bituminous. . . ., allow that line to remain, but add at the end of the
line the following language: ·The Council may, at its discretion,
delete or change this 1 1/2-inch blacktop provision if requested by a
developer who can prove exceptional conditions beyond his control which
makes it unable for him to do it.· Motion carried unanimously.
NON-DISCUSSION ITEMS
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, to move the following agenda
items on tonight's agenda in the affirmative:
Item 10 Determine LGU/1991 Wetland Act Permanent Rules (See
Resolution R262-93)
Item 12 Approve Law Enforcement Contract (See Resolution R263-
93)
Item 13 Approve Police Liaison/DARE Officer Contract (See
Resolution R264-93)
Item 14 Partial Refund of Escrow/Emerald Glen/IP93-11 ($3,331
plus interest)
Item 15 Approve Revised Grading Plan/Pinewood Estates 2nd (See
Resolution R265-93)
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Minutes - November 2, 1993
Page 13
(Non-Discussion Items, Continued)
Item 16 Approve Revised Grading Plan/Leeman Lake Estates (See
Resolution R266-93)
Item 17 Approve Revised Grading Plan/Hidden Creek East 5th (See
Resolution R267-93)
Item 18 Approve Final Payment/IP92-18 and IP92-29 (See
Resolution R268-93)
Item 20 Receive Petition/Woodland Meadows Street Lights (See
Resolution R269-93)
Item 21 Accept September Financial Statements
Item 22 Release and Receipt for Damages/IP92-5
Item 23 Approve Change Order #2/IP93-6/Watermain (See
Resolution R270-93)
DISCUSSION: Mayor MCKelvey stated at the moment the City does not have
a police liaison in the school. Later in the year, the State refunds
money to the school district, who in turn reimburses the City for the
DARE program. Mr. Sulander stated the contract with the School District
states they will reimburse the City about $2,908 for providing the DARE
program through the Sheriff's Department.
On Item 23, the engineers explained the expenses for the relocation of
the watermain are that of the City, as the State requires the City to
accept that responsibility. Motion carried unanimously.
IP93-1 HYDRANT RELOCATION /PAYMENT
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, approval of Item 19 (payment for
hydrant relocates Project 93-1). Motion carried unanimously.
APPROVE ANNUAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM GUIDELINES
Mr. Haas stated the guidelines presented are a recommendation of the
Development Committee Task Force to give developers a guideline on the
procedures of platting projects. It states it will take about six months
from the plat application to being able to construct a house. This
information will be given at the time of the preliminary plat
application. councilmember Perry suggested the new guidelines be added
to the newsletters, in the paper, etc., so developers are aware of them.
Jerrv Windschitl,Ashford Development - stated many cities are allowing
a two-tier type program, one similar to this proposal, and the other
where the contract and financing for the development are privately done.
The city's consultant still designs and inspects it with city Staff
still approving it; but the city would not have to go through the
bidding and bonding process. The developer takes the plan and does his
own negotiating for the particular plan and finances it himself,
allowing him to negotiate a price faster. This is being done quite
extensively in the Twin Cities area and is something that might be worth
looking into. Mayor McKelvey stated that is something they can look at
in the future.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - November 2, 1993
Page 14
(Approve Annual Improvement Program Guidelines, Continued)
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by Knight, that we accept the recommendation
of the development policy guidelines that have been presented tonight¡
but in accepting them, that we note that there are several typographical
errors, and those need to be corrected. DISCUSSION: Councilmember
Jacobson stated in reviewing the guidelines, he had many comments,
questions, and suggested word changes. He suggested the item be tabled
to allow for further study. Council then agreed, requesting they
receive legible copies to review.
Councilmembers Knight and Perry withdrew the Second and the Motion.
Mayor McKelvey asked for a motion to table the item to the next Council
meeting.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Dalien, to so move. Motion carried
unanimously.
APPROVE FIRE DEPARTMENT SECRETARY
Mr. Sulander explained the previous secretary was started at $8 an hour
with a provision for a $.40/hour raise in six months, which would have
fallen within the current year¡ plus there would have been another
increase the beginning of 1994. Taking that into consideration, since
the position will not be included in the 1994 adjustments, the
recommendation is for a $.60/hour increase after six months. This is a
part-time position, 10 hours per week budgeted in 1993 and 20 hours per
week budgeted in the 1994 budget.
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by Jacobson, that the Council approve the
hiring of Dixie Sanborn as the Fire Department's secretary for the part-
time position which was advertized at a starting rate of pay of $8 per
hour with a $.60 per hour increase after successfully completing the
six-month probationary period. Motion carried unanimously.
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Perry, approval of Claims in the amount of
$621,145.18. Motion carried unanimously.
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
Legality of Directive on Conducting Business with Illegal Home
Occupations - Attorney Hawkins recalled the directive was the Staff is
not to do business with any firms in Andover that are illegally
operating. Technically, Crooked Lake Tire is in violation of the
ordinance. The Council has made a determination that the likelihood of
being able to enforce that is not good in view of the past and is
allowing it to continue. But clearly the operation is in violation of
the ordinance and cannot be considered nonconforming because it did not
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(Mayor/Council Input, Continued)
precede the ordinance. He agreed the City should not be doing business
with those firms that are in violation of the ordinance. Given the
Attorney's opinion, the Council took no further action, thereby letting
the directive made by the Mayor at the October 19, 1993, meeting stand.
MOTION by Knight to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously.
The meeting adjourned at 11:26 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Mar ella A. Peach
Recor ing Secretary
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