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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSP March 19, 1992 CA. CITY of ANDOVER Special city Council Meeting - March 19, 1992 7:30 P.M. Call to Order 1. Public Hearing/Kelsey-Round Lake Park 8:30 P.M. 2. Informational Hearing/Sewer Trunk Extension 3. 4 . Adjourn ~_... . - . SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING - MARCH 19, 1992 TABLE OF CONTENTS PUBLIC HEARING - KELSEY-ROUND LAKE PARK . · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1 SEWER TRUNK EXTENSION/NIGHTENGALE . . . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · 5 RECONSIDER AWARDING OF REPAIRS FOR FIRE TRUCK Motion to reconsIder motIon of 3/17/92 . · · · · · · · · · · · · 10 Motion to reject bIds and authorIze rebIddIng · · · · · · · · · 10 ADJOURNMENT . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · 10 ._. r' - - CA. CITY of ANDOVER SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING - MARCH 19, 1992 MINUTES A SpecIal MeetIng of the Andover CIty CouncIl was called to order by Mayor Ken Orttel on March 19, 1992; 7:30 p.m., at the Andover CIty Hall, 1685 Crosstown Bou1evard NW, Andover, MInnesota. Councllmembers present: Jacobson, McKelvey, Perry CounclJmember absent: Sml th Also present: AssIstant CIty EngIneer, Todd Haas City AdmInIstrator, JIm Schrantz Others AGENDA APPROVAL It was agreed to set the Agenda as follows: PublIc HearIng - KeJsey-Round Lake Park; Sewer Trunk ExtensIon/NIghtIngale; and ReconsIder AwardIng of RepaIrs for FIre Truck. PUBLIC HEARING - KELSEY-ROUND LAKE PARK 7:31 p.m. The followIng members of the Park and RecreatIon CommIssIon were present: ChaIrperson Jeff KIeffer, Darrel DeLarco, MIke Auger, Roger Paulson, DavId Woods, Llm LIndahl, and Tom Anderson. Mayor Orttel explaIned the reason for the publIc hearIng and read a letter from LInda WIck, Grants Manager at the MInnesota Department of Trade and EconomIc Development dated March 18, 1992, whIch outlIned the reasons the parkIng requIrement was added as a condItIon of the CIty's grant request. TheIr preference wou1d be for a mInImum of five additional parkIng spaces, one of those spaces meetIng the handIcapped accessIbIlIty parkIng requIrements, off of the exIstIng cul-de-sac on 149th Avenue NW. The hearing was then opened for publIc testImony. JIm HIltz. 4060 149th Avenue NW - asked If the City has responded to the March 18 letter challengIng the condItIons. Mr. Haas stated the letter was just receIved. Mr. HIltz - felt the decIsIon to requIre parkIng on the south end of the park is based on old InformatIon, prIor to the complete development of 151st. He asked the cost of puttIng In the parkIng lot. Mr. Haas stated he had not checked Into It, but estImated It would not be more than $4,000. Because It Is a nature park, he would recommend Class V fInIsh, not blacktop or curbs and gutters. Mr. HIltz - argued the money for puttIng In the parkIng lot for five cars could be better used for development of the park, especIally when the exIstIng cul-de-sac can park five cars. SpecIal CI ty Councl I Meeting Minutes - March 19, 1992 Page 2 (PublIc HearIng - Kelsey-Round Lake Park, ContInued) Mr. HIltz contInued that he felt the cul-de-sac on 151st would be a better locatIon for a parkIng lot. Mr. Haas dIdn't thInk the conclusIon by the MN Department of Trade and Economic Development was made on old InformatIon, as he walked four representatIves through the area and showed the new cul-de-sac whIch was under constructIon. Rov WIckland. 4115 149th Avenue - Is concerned about the safety and securIty of the park and the surroundIng communIty. He asked if there has ever been a study made to determIne I f there Is a correlatIon between the number of parkIng areas and access areas to the crIme rate In a park. Mayor Ortte] stated no study has been done. Mr. WIckland - asked If there wI I 1 be precautions taken to protect the park users, especIally the chIldren who end up In the park. WI] I anyone patrol the place? Mayor Orttel stated the maIn use of the park wIll be from the northern parkIng lot. It Is to be a recreatIonal park wIth a very natural settIng. Hopefully chIldren wIll be attended by their parents. It Is not possIble for the CIty to have a full-tIme patrol of the park. The park wI I I be closed at dark. Mr. WIckland - stated such Isolated parkIng lots attract unsuItable actIvItIes. He asked why consIderatIon wasn't gIven to puttIng In a parkIng lot on the east end of the lake where there Is a larger populatIon and whIch Is the nIcest area of the park. Jerrv Wlndschltl - stated there Is no access to the park off 152nd Lane. Mr. Haas stated that locatIon Is about one-fourth mIle from the north parkIng lot entrance. Mr. WIckland - gave several reasons why he felt It would be better to have a parkIng lot off 151st Avenue NW rather than 149th If one has to be constructed: 151st has hIgher ground and It Is vIsible to observe much of the park from there. InapproprIate behavIor would tend to be reduced on more vIsible parkIng areas. 149th Is on lower ground and more secluded, makIng It a magnet for undesIrable activItIes. 149th Is a straIght road whIch people tend to race down. 151st has natural turns that tend to slow down the traffIc. 151st has street lIghting all the way down; 149th has no street lIghts. LIghtIng becomes a factor for safety and securIty. 151st has only 13 homes that would be affected; there are 33 homes on 149th, many wIth small ch 11 dren . He asked what the Park Board recommendatIon was. ChaIrperson KIeffer stated the Board has not made a recommendatIon as to whIch they feel would be a better sIte. Lee Warneka. 14791 Blackfoot Street - referenced Item 2 In the letter from Ms. WIck, feelIng that because I t Is a natura] park, everyone doesn't have to have reasonable access. There Is no "reasonable access" proposed from the east, challengIng statements made that there Is no suItable place for a parkIng lot from the east. SpecIal CI ty Councl I MeetIng MInutes - March 19, 1992 Page 3 (PublIc HearIng - Kelsey-Round Lake Park, Continued) Mayor Orttel agreed, but felt that provIdIng access to the east Is not the Issue at this time. Mr. Warneka - felt by revIewIng the letter Item by Item, there are inconsistencies. He talked wIth Ms. WIck today, and he felt they do not have a clear Idea of what Is out there. DrIvIng down 149th means drIvIng Into a flood plaIn, a hole. The observer wIll not be able to see anythIng from that area except cattaIls. DrivIng down 151st one can get a cJear vIew of the Jake and the water. He felt all It would take Is to InvIte Ms. Wick and other representatIves to vIew the site, and they wIll see the difference. He would like to see the CIty cha II enge the InaccuracIes of the let ter. Why is cul-de-sac parkIng not desIrable? They don't say I t Is not allowed. Also, he felt Is It possIble to say no to the parkIng lot. Dan Pohl. 4033 149th Avenue - was concerned about the corners onto 149th. Between 149th, Blackfoot and 147th, 42 sItes are affected. On 151st, only ten sItes are affected. There Is also the problem of squealIng tIres when turnIng corners. Mayor Orttel noted It Is only fIve cars total for three months a year, though It Is hoped to be used year round. He felt It would not be a bIg problem or a major Impact on the area. Herb ReInke. 4330 147th Lane - was concerned about the traffIc usIng 147th Lane. He realIzed it Is onJy fIve spaces, but what is to stop people from puttIng 50 cars on the cul-de-sac and creatIng addItIonal parkIng spaces along the street. He wouJd favor very lIttle parkIng, maybe just handicapped parkIng at the end of 151st. CI int Trousl]. 3940 149th Avenue NW - the end of 149th Avenue. He just refinanced hIs property, and he was told he Is In the flood zone. He was not sure that Is a good place for a parkIng lot. All anyone could see from there Is the cattaIls. He too Is concerned about the traffIc and a secluded parkIng lot becomIng a "party park". In the 13 years he's II ved there, he's spent a faIr amount of tIme askIng people to move on. He doesn't want more there. There are problems down there even after the park Is closed, askIng who wIll enforce those activIties. A "No MotorIzed VehIcles" sIgn was placed there several years ago. Someone rode over It. If there has to be a parkIng Jot, he'd prefer It be on 151st where Jess people are affected. There Is also a day care on 149th whIch would be affected by the Increased traffIc. Mayor Orttel felt the natural area Is what people wIll want to see. He dIdn't know how the walkways wIll be tIed Into the parkIng areas. ChaIrperson KIeffer stated the traIls wI I 1 go to the parkIng si tes. Dan WIseman. 14821 Blackfoot - stated the cul-de-sac on 149th Is mosqu I to Infested In the summer. Because 151st Is hIgher, he felt the breeze would make it a more pleasant pJace to park. There Is not much SpecIal CI ty CouncIl MeetIng MInutes - March 19, 1992 Page 4 (Public HearIng - Kelsey-Round Lake Park, Continued) to see from 149th Avenue. WI th the addItIon of fIve parkIng spaces, he wondered If the 01] from the cars, etc.. would adversely affect the envIronment. HIs son also found a very rare turtle In that area. agaIn expressing concern about protectIng the envIronment. He asked I f the CIty really needs the addItional money for the park and what the funds would be used for. Mayor Orttel stated the funds wI II be used to develop traIls. All of the grant funds plus avaIlable local park funds wi II be used to develop the park. Mr. WIseman - also expressed concern for the safety of chIldren In the area playIng and rIdIng bIkes, not I ng the lack of speed sIgns In the area. The slglng wIll also be an addItIonal cost to the CIty. He Is not In favor of a parkIng lot, but preferred 151st. He asked If it Is approprIate for the City to ask for 151st Instead. Mayor Ortte I stated the letter gIves the State's preferred choIce because I t is closer to the area of partIcular Interest. The CI ty Is also aware of the problems wIth Isolated areas attractIng undesIrable actIvItIes. Jerrv Wlndschltl. 3640 152nd Lane - represents a group of people along 151st Lane, 152nd Lane and 152nd Avenue. Last tIme he testifIed that he dIdn't belIeve Andover has the abIlIty to polIce two parkIng lots, and he st i I I belIeves that. TryIng to open and close two ends of the park wI II create a nightmare for the resIdents that surround the park, as there are problems already. Unless some type of polIcIng mechanIsm Is In place, he felt there wI II be more and more cars and problems that go with It. He asked If the condItIons of the grant are that the parkIng lot must actually be constructed at thIs time, or can the CIty just desIgnate the locatIon of a parkIng lot. He dIdn't know how Andover would deal wI th the polIce protectIon and safety that wI II be requIred If thIs Is turned into a regIonal park, and he poInted out the dIffIcultIes the county has wIth its parks. Mr. Windschitl stated they oppose the parkIng lot on 151st or 152nd. He felt the elevatIons are vIrtually Identical. The last street lIght on 151st Is one fu II lot depth behInd the cul-de-sac, whIch negates the argument made thIs evening about lIghtIng in the parkIng lot. The proposed walkIng traIls to the Island and from 149th are desIgned to cross about 300 yards In. Before the traIl system and parkIng lots are constructed, he suggested Jaw enforcement professIonals be brought In to determIne If thIs Is manageable or If It Is just creating problems for the resIdents. Peter Rauen. 4110 147th Lane - recognIzed the CIty Is anxIous to get the fundIng, but he felt It needs to J ook at thIs carefully and get expert opInIons as to whether or not thIs could be creatIng problems down the road, to get some professional heJp to see If It makes sense to have addItIonal parkIng lots. He suggested challengIng the State's recommendatIon because It was apparently made by someone wIthout experIence In that posItIon. He asked the CouncIl not to make a hasty IrreversIble decIsIon that may have a negatIve Impact In the future. SpecIal Ci ty Councl I Meeting Minutes - March 19, 1992 Page 5 (PublIc HearIng - Kelsey-Round Lake Park, Continued) CouncIl dIscussIon wIth several resIdents was on aJternatlve solutIons to the State recommendatIon of an addItIonal park I ng Jot off the 149th Avenue cul-de-sac. It Is about a two-and-a-ha]f-ml]e hIke from the northern parkIng lot to the lake. The Intent Is the park would be a nature park for hIkIng and walkIng. The Park Board felt there Is an adequate vIew of wlJdllfe and scenIc amenItIes from the northern park I ng lot. Future plans caJI for a brIdge to the Is]and on the lake; however, that Is very costly and probably cannot be done wIthIn the next ten years. Mr. Haas felt the State would requIre the constructIon of the parkIng lot by the end of the thIrd year of the grant. Mayor Orttel acknowledged If a parkIng lot Is constructed, "No ParkIng" sIgns would be needed along the adjoInIng streets. ResIdents expressed concern about a small parkIng lot now being enlarged In the future. The Counc i I dIdn't thInk that would happen, but could not guarantee It wouldn't happen. A resIdent suggested the CI ty InvIte representatIves from the State to vIew the sIte once more, along wIth representatIves from the CIty and surroundIng resIdents to explain the CIty's concerns. After some dIscussIon, the CounclJmember Perry suggested the possIbIlIty of provIdIng motorIzed vehIcles such as golf carts at the northern parkIng lot for those who are handIcapped. the elderly and famIlIes wIth young chIldren; so they could rIde down to the lake area. That would eJlminate the need for the addItIonal parkIng lot on the southern end of the park, plus It would preserve the natural Intent of the park and reduce the problem of securIty by havIng only one access. However, there would have to be some way of securIng the vehicles In the vIcInIty of the parkIng lot. She dIdn't lIke the Idea of asphaJt In a nature park. Mayor OrtteJ suggested the traIls could be made wIder, or separate traIls for motorIzed vehIcles, possibly aJlowlng for a parkIng area wIthIn the park that Is c]oser to the Jake. Counc II agreed to InvIte Ms. WIck to vIew the area. Several Councilmembers and Park and RecreatIon CommIssIoners IndIcated a wIllIngness to joIn the tour, along wIth CIty Staff and several resIdents representIng the neIghborhood. Mr. Haas stated he wl]l scheduJe the tour as soon as possIble. Counc I ] hoped the Item could be dIscussed agaIn at the next regular meetIng on AprI] 7, 1992. Counc i 1 recessed at 8:32; reconvened at 8:37 p.m. SEWER TRUNK EXTENSION/NIGHTENGALE Mayor Orttel expJalned thIs Is an Informational hearIng about the possIbIlIty of extendIng sanItary sewer up NIghtengale to 161st. SpecIal CI ty CouncIl MeetIng MInutes - March 19, 1992 Page 6 (Sewer Trunk ExtensIon/NIghtengale, ContInued) The Mayor continued, the utIlIties would probably not be avaIlable before the year 2010 and the CIty does not assess ahead of the pIpe. However, the decIsIon must be made now so the next extensIon of the pipe can be put In at a depth to servIce this area. Th I s affects the larger land owners more than those aJready on resIdentIal lots. The Counc I I Is askIng whether those property owners In the potentIal servIce area are interested In havIng sewer avaIlable to them In the future. Mr. DavIdson revIewed the proposal, poIntIng out the cost of the Increased depth at this time would be carrIed by the CIty untIl the property north of DItch 37 would be developed. It wou]d requIre at least 50 acres north of that dItch to deveJop to pay for IncreasIng the depth of the pIpe. He also explaIned the area and connectIon charges, notIng they are Indexed every year. That IndexIng has been about fIve percent per year over the past ten years. If the pIpe Is put In at the shallower depth now and the property north of the dItch wishes sanItary sewer In the future, a 11ft statIon would be needed. The CIty's polIcy to date has been not to a]]ow 11ft statIons because of theIr cost and maIntenance. Rav Warren. 15744 NIchtencale - asked about the acreage assessment of $927 and what he wI I I have to pay now. Mayor OrtteJ explaIned there Is no assessment at thIs tIme. He also exp]alned the area and connectIon rates that everyone pays to hook up to sewer at the tIme I t Is avaIlable to them. The area assessment Is a flate rate to everyone which wI II be Indexed over the years to cover the costs of the sewer trunk lIne. When deveJopIng the property, there are also costs for water, storm sewer and streets. Mr. Warren - commented It costs so much he won't be able to sell hIs land. He also expressed confusIon over the number of assessments and asked If the CIty Is askIng them whether the lIne should be put deeper now. Counc I ] gave further clarIfIcatIon on the process of runnIng sanItary sewer to hIs property, noting It wI J] not be avaIlable for almost 20 years, that I t wI II be assessed when he petItIons for the u t 11 i tI es, that the area assessment Is the same amount for everyone in the CIty connectIng to sanItary sewer In any given year, and tha t the CIty wants to know that at least 50 acres In that area wI]] develop to pay for the costs of 10werlng the trunk pIpe at this tIme. The Issue Is really for those wIth acreages larger than 2.5 acres and whether they wIsh to have utIlItIes avaIlable when and If they wIsh to subdIvIde theIr property. The CIty wants the resIdents to know ahead of tIme that thIs Is avaIlable so they can plan accordIngly and wlseJy. Counc I I a]so explaIned If the trunk pIpe Is not lowered now, thIs area would not be able to be servIced by gravIty f]ow. ResIdents would have to pay for a I ift statIon, or they may not get sanItary sewer at . - - SpecIa] CI ty Councl I Meeting MInutes - March 19, 1992 Page 7 (Sewer Trunk ExtensIon/Nightengale, Continued) all. DIscussIon was on runnIng the trunk line up Hanson Boulevard rather than NIghtengale. It was noted because of the topography and the shallow lIne comIng up to Andover School, that ]Ine would not be able to servIce thIs area. Jerrv Wlndschitl. 3640 152nd Lane - felt that if the sewer lIne Is run at Its maxImum depth, at some poInt In tIme I t wI]] get used. He felt I t Is Important to the CIty to get the maximum use of the sewer system. The polIcy had always been to run the ]Ine as deep as possIble, commentIng on the extension of the sewer past Coon Creek when at one tIme It was felt the creek was the northern ] ImIt. Mr. Wlndschllt stated he owns over the requIred aCreage necessary to make thIs project work. He has approxlmate]y 80 acres contIguous to the present sewer servIce area on both sIdes of NIghtengale, so no one else would be affected to servIce hIs property. He wants the sewer lIne deep enough to servIce the property he owns. Mayor Orttel acknowledged the CIty used to have the polley that the sewer trunk lIne be placed as deep as possIble. He felt that polley should contInue. He a]so poInted out the sItuation now of havIng more demand for the sewer than the CIty can provIde. DennIs Anderson. 15952 Makah Street NW - asked how far the fIrst trunk ] Ine wIll go and when. Mr. DavIdson stated the proJect thIs year wI] I only extend wIthIn the plat on the Santa's Tree Farm property. Mayor Orttel also explaIned the CIty would not leapfrog past property to servIce other propertIes. The land up Nlghtenga]e would have to be developed before the exIstIng resIdentIal ] ots off 161st can be servIced. He also explaIned the CIty's polley of the resIdents petitIonIng for servIces wIth at least 50 percent In favor before the CIty Instal Is utI I Itles. Also, properties are not assessed untIl they petItIon for the utilitIes. Mr. Warren - was concerned about havIng to pay an assessment If the lIne goes past his property to servIce the area to the north. Mr. Davidson stated the polley Is not to assess any costs when a trunk ]Ine passes property I f the the property does not hook up. DIscussion a]so noted the value of the land generally Increases when sewer Is avaIlable and that in the past the CIty has worked wIth property owners If a lIne has to go past property that Is not yet ready to develop. Ken Slvzuk. 15211 Nlchtencale - asked about the area affected and how notIces were sent for thIs meetIng. Mr. Davidson revIewed the proposed area. Mr. Schrantz stated notIces went to those people wIthIn the affected area. HIs property was Included In the servIce area In 1987. Mr. Slvzuk - commented how the maIn trunk lIne Is shown off CIty property and onto prIvate property. He asked what happens If Mr. Wlndschltl, who Is north of hIm, Is ready to develop before he Is. SpecIal CIty Councl] Meet! ng MInutes - March 19, 1992 Page 8 (Sewer Trunk ExtensIon/NIghtengale, Continued) Mr. Slyzuk asked If the Counc i 1 would guarantee that that area wI II not be servIced before 2010. Mayor OrtteJ stated the CouncIl cannot make that guarantee; however, It Is not In the current pJan, whIch goes to 2010. The CIty does not leapfrog, and any extensIon of the sewer lIne Is controlled by the MetropolItan Waste ControJ CommIssIon, not the CIty. Much of I t wi)1 also depend on the demand In the housIng market. Mr. Slvzuk - also asked about the dl fference In elevatIon at the creek and at CoRd 20, whether a I I the hIgh ground between thIs area and the creek is Intended to be served, and who asked for thIs study to be done. Mr. DavIdson revIewed the dIfferences in elevatIons, IncludIng some background regarding the sewer lIne at the creek. It may be posslbJe to provide sewer to the west In the future. Mayor Orttel stated the CouncIl dId ask the engIneers to determine whIch areas can be serviced based on topographIcal data. He again stated his feelIng that the pIpe shouJd always be placed at Its maxImum depth and that the resIdents on the smaller Jots shouJd probably not have been called In at thIs tIme. The Issue now Is the future development of the larger parceJs. There was further dIscussIon wIth Mr. Slyzuk about the proposed locations of the sewer trunk JInes, about the potential extensIon of the lIne and propertIes that should be servIced fIrst, and that the CIty's polIcy has been the trunk line Is extended only when 50 percent of the affected propertIes petItIon for it, but In an orderly fashion so line Is not run past Jarge areas not yet ready for development. Mr. DavIdson also noted that for property In Green Acres, the assessment Is deferred but Interest Is paId. If the property Is In Ag Preserve, It Is Immune from any assessment and no Interest Is paid. The property must be taken out of Ag Preserve eIght years before It can be deveJoped. Mr. Slvzuk - commented fIrst the lIne could never go beyond Coon Creek, then the schooJ came and the lIne could cross the creek, and now he stated the lIne can go up to Constance and even further north. Mr. DavIdson stated the lIne comes out of the ground at CoRd 20, and the land around VerdIn Is hIgher. Mr. Slvzuk - feJt wIth more peopJe askIng for the sewer lIne, the CI ty wI II find a way to provIde It. He has a lot of nIce hIgh ground but he is not ready to deveJop I t yet. Further discussion wIth residents was that if a lateral goes past a parcel or Jot, accordIng to the ordInance, the owner has two years to hook up to the lIne. Areas charges would probably be assessed at that time. Counc I) also reIterated there wl]J be no assessment untIl the property Is developed, that thIs area Is not planned for development unt 11 beyond the year 2010. In Andover It Is the developers them- selves that ask for the lIne; It Is not forced on them by the City. SpecIal CIty Councl I MeetIng MInutes - March 19, 1992 Page 9 (Sewer Trunk ExtensIon/NIghtengale, ContInued) Counc I J repeated thIs Is a I ong- term goa I , that It would be staged contiguous development of the sewer lIne; and when It gets to an area to develop, 50 percent of the property owners must want It for the CIty to consider It. It was also noted that there are copies of the proposed ComprehensIve P]an avalJable for resIdents to vIew. A resIdent clarIfied the decIsIon on the deeper lIne must be made now so they can have sanItary sewer In the future without a J 1ft station. Does the CIty have plans for water In this area. Mayor Orttel noted the CIty has avoIded 11ft statIons because of the expense and problems wIth maIntaInIng them. Water goes wIth the sewer for any development. Those areas In the CIty that have sewer wIthout water were done before the CIty had a water system. Dale KratochwIII. 16041 QuInn Street - understood If sewer Is avaIlable, the lots can be smal]er. He asked about the amount of land owned by Mr. WlndschltJ and the Jot slzes he could have, commentIng that more houses can be put In a smaller area wIth sewer avaIlable. Counc I 1 noted wIthout sewer, land can be developed Into 2.5-acre Jots; wIth utIlItIes the lot sIze Is 11,400 square feet. The development cost for an urban resIdentIal Jot Is about $8,000 for sewer, water, streets, and storm sewer. Counc I I also noted that If It Is known that sewer wI I J be avaIlable and the land Is developed Into 2.5-acre lots, It restrIcts the future development Into urban lots. UnlIke other cItIes, Andover's polley has been not to extend the sewer lIne unJess I t Is petItIoned for. Also, the CIty's polley Is to not force assessments on rural lot developments such as Lund's Evergreen Estates and NIghtengale Estates, even though the J Ine Is goIng rIght past that area. Jerrv Wlndschtl I - explaIned that because of the conservatIve polIcy of the CIty, there Is a Jarge trunk fund surplus; so the CIty doesn't have to assess ahead of the pIpe lIke other cItIes do. Mr. Warren - was concerned wIth how soon the Ilne would go past his property. Counc I I noted not before the year 2000. It may not go past Mr. WlndschltJ's property un]ess Mr. Warren wants It to. Gary Sather. 15532 Nlchtencale - felt many peop]e In theIr area do not want the smaller lots with more densIty. He moved here to get out of the CIty, and he doesn't want hIgh densIty housIng abuttIng agaInst hIs property. He doesn't want sewer and water, thInkIng there are many people who feel that same way. VlrcI I Hoppe. 2051 159th Lane NW - asked If he could pay the acreage charge now; or If It Is not paId, how much interest wI II there be by the year 2010. Mayor Orttel stated the CIty would not accept the payment now because It Is not in the sewer dIstrIct. No Interest wouJd accumulate, though that charge Is Incremented every year by approxImately fIve percent annually. SpecIal CIty CouncIl MeetIng MInutes - March 19, 1992 Page 10 (Sewer T~unk ExtensIon/NIghtengale, ContInued) The Mayo~ agaIn noted that the polley of not extendIng the sewer lIne unJess It Is asked for. Someone asked what happens If the trunk goes past hIs property. Mayor Orttel revIewed the polIcy of not beIng requIred to hook up to trunk, just pay for the a~ea charge per acre. Mr. War~en - asked whether he would have to pay the assessment If he sold the land. Mayor Orttel stated there Is no assessment at thIs time. At the tIme there Is one, he assumed the cost of the land wIll IncJude the assessments. The Counc II generally agreed that the polIcy should be that the sewe~ trunk Jlne be placed as deep as possIble not only to servIce thIs area, but as a gene~al pol Icy In aJ J cases. RECONSIDER AWARDING OF REPAIRS FOR FIRE TRUCK Counc II noted they app~oved a bId to refurbIsh Truck 4881 (EngIne 1) at the March 17, 1992, meetIng. FIrefIghter Ray Sowada explaIned none of the bIds met the specIfIcatIons. They are askIng that the bIds be rejected and that they be alJowed to rebId the project. MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by McKelvey, that we reconsIder the motIon on the contract to refurbIsh the FIre Truck. Motion carrIed on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (SmIth) vote. MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by McKelvey, to ~eject the bIds, and authorIze the rebIdding for refurbIshIng the FIre Truck, EngIne 1, because the fl~st bIds were faulty and dId not meet specs. MotIon car~led on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (SmIth) vote. There beIng no further busIness, Mayor OrtteI decla~ed the meetl ng adjourned at 10:13 p.m. Respectfully submItted, ~~,TJ- Mar eJla A. Peach RecordIng Secretary