HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC October 6, 1992
CA. CITY of ANDOVER
Regular City Council Meeting - october 6, 1992
Call to Order - 7:30 P.M.
Resident Forum
Agenda Approval
Approval of Minutes
Discussion Items
1. Variance/126 - 177th Avenue N.W.
2. Dog Bite/159th Ave.
3. Dog Bite/Tulip Street
4. Echo Ridge Sketch plan
5. Wilber Auto Parts Building Request
6. Amend Ordinance 8, Section 4.21, Fencing
7. Amend Ordinance 10, section 4, Definitions
8. DNR Denial Eldorado st. Crossing
9. Eidelweiss street NW Discussion
Staff, Committee, Commissions
10. Schedule Meeting w/Council/Planning Comm/Ec~nomic Dev. Comm.
11. DNR Shoreland Grant Application
12. Appoint Tree Commission Member
13. Resident Survey/Recycling
14. Licensing of Garbarge Haulers/proposed Ordinance
15. Approve purchase/Building Department Vehicle & Radio
16. Blacktop Proposal/Garage @ City Hall
17. Replacement of Warning Siren Motors
18. Appoint Election Judges
19. Authorization to Hire Temp. Public Works Employee
20. Discussion/Code Enforcement Person/GIS
Non-Discussion Items
21. Order Assessment Hearing/Grace Lutheran Church/92-7
22. Order Assessment Hearing/176th Lane/92-9
23. Order Assessment Hearing/Delinquent utilities
24. Order Assessment Hearing/Mowing Charges
25. Order Assessment Hearing/Alarm Call Fines
26. Revise Authorization to Sell/Assign/Transfer Funds
27. Approve Plans & Specs/92-18/Watt's Graden Acres
28. Accept Feasibility Report/92-20/Woodland Creek 3rd
29. Receive August Financial Statements
30. Approve Holmberg Addition streets
31. Order Feasibility Report/Andover Blvd. watermain/92-22
32. Approve Speed Limit/Old Constance Boulevard
33. Approve Revised Grading Plan/Timber Trails (Cedar Hill Est.)
34. Approve Revised Grading Plan/Winslow Hills 2nd
Mayor-Council Input
Approval of Claims
Adjournment
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - OCTOBER 6, 1992
TABLE OF CONTENTS
RESIDENT FORUM . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
AGENDA APPROVAL . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
APPROVAL OF MINUTES · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
VARIANCE/126 177TH AVENUE NW
Resolution R181-92 to approve · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
DOG BITE/159TH AVENUE
Resolution R182-92 declaring pit Bull a biting dog · · · · · 2
DOG BITE/TULIP STREET
Resolution R183-92 declaring dog a biting dog · · · · · · · · 2
ECHO RIDGE SKETCH PLAN · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 3
WILBER AUTO PARTS BUILDING REQUEST
Motion to table until after the October 13 meeting · · · · · 3
AMEND ORDINANCE 8, SECTION 4.21, FENCING
Motion to approve amendment · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 4
AMEND ORDINANCE 10, SECTION 4, DEFINITIONS · · · · · · · · · · · 4
Motion to table · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 5
DNR DENIAL ELDORADO STREET CROSSING
Motion to authorize hearing · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 5
EIDELWEISS STREET NW DISCUSSION . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 5
AZTEC STREET/WOODLAND DEVELOPMENT
Motion to accept Agreement with Woodland Development for Aztec 7
BUILDING DEPARTMENT ITEM · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 8
NON-DISCUSSION ITEMS
Appoint James Lindquist Tree Commission member · · · · · · · 8
Replacement of warning siren motors · · · · · · · · · · · · · 8
Resolution R184-92 to appoint election judges · · · · · · · · 8
Authorize hiring of temporary Public Works employee . . . . · 8
Resolution R185-92 ordering assessment hearing/92-7/Grace . · 8
Resolution R186-92 ordering assessment hearing/92-9/176th Ln 8
Resolution R187-92 ordering assessment hearing/
delinquent utilities · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 8
Resolution R188-92 ordering assessment hearing/mowing · · · · 8
Resolution R197-92 ordering assessment hearing/alarm call fines 8
Resolution R189-92 revising authorization for funds · · · · · 8
Delete plans & specs/92-18/Watt's Garden Acres · · · · · · · 8
Receive August Financial Statements · · · · · · · · · · · · · 8
Resolution R190-92 approving Holmberg Addition streets · · · 8
Proclamation/Physician Assistant Day' ......... · · · 8
Order ad for bids for electric and plumbing/Senior Center · · 8
Regular Andover City Council Meeting - October 6, 1992
Table of Contents
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MEETING WITH COUNCIL/PLANNING COMMISSION/EDC (October 13) · · · · 8
DNR SHORELAND GRANT APPLICATION . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 9
RESIDENT SURVEY/RECYCLING . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 9
LICENSING OF GARBAGE HAULERS/PROPOSED ORDINANCE · · · · · · · · · 9
APPROVE PURCHASE/BUILDING DEPARTMENT VEHICLE AND RADIO · · · · · 9
Motion to approve · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 10
BLACKTOP PROPOSAL/GARAGE AT CITY HALL AND STAPLES CEMETERY
Motion to blacktop garage mat at City Hall · · · · · · · · 10
DISCUSSION/CODE ENFORCEMENT PERSON/GIS · · · · · · · · · · · · · 10
Motion to table · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 11
APPROVE FEASIBILITY REPORT/IP92-20/WOODLAND CREEK 3RD
Resolution R191-92 accepting feasibility study · · · · · · · 11
FEASIBILITY REPORT/ANDOVER BOULEVARD WATER/IP92-22
Resolution R192-92 ordering preparation of feasibility · · · 12
Resolution R193-92 accepting feasibility, order plans & specs 12
ORDER SPEED LIMIT/OLD CONSTANCE BOULEVARD
Resolution R194-92 approving 40 mph speed limit · · · · · · · 12
REVISED GRADING PLAN/TIMBER TRAILS (CEDAR HILLS ESTATES)
Resolution R195-92 approving · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 13
REVISED GRADING PLAN/WINSLOW HILLS 2ND
Resolution R196-92 approving · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 13
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 13
ADJOURNMENT . . . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 13
CA. CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - OCTOBER 6, 1992
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to
order by Mayor Ken Orttel on October 6, 1992, 7:30 p.m., at the Andover
City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmembers present: Jacobson, McKelvey, Perry
Councilmember absent: Smith
Also present: City Attorney, William G. Hawkins
TKDA Engineer, John Davidson
City Planner, Dave Carlberg
City Finance Director, Daryl Sulander
City Administrator, James Schrantz
Others
RESIDENT FORUM
Hubert Smith, 13309 Jav Street - presented a copy of a traffic count he
did along Jay Street one day. The count shows a significant number of
vehicles going down a bumpy dirt road. In a 12-hour period, 235 vehicles
went down that street, with almost 90 percent of that relating to
commercial purposes. Many of the vehicles are employees of the bus
company going to and from work. The concern is that the traffic will
increase significantly once it is paved if a cul-de-sac is not provided
on Jay Street at the proposed Commercial Boulevard to separate the
business and residential districts. He asked the Council to consider
this information when deciding whether or not to cul-de-sac Jay Street.
AGENDA APPROVAL
Add Items 9a, Aztec Street/Woodland Development; 9b, Building Department
Item; 35, Proclamation/Physician Assistant Day; and 36, Order Ad for
Bids/Electrical and Plumbing/Senior Center.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, to approve the Agenda as amended.
Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Smith) vote.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
September 15, 1992 : Correct as written.
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by McKelvey, approve the Minutes as presented.
Motion carried on a 3-Yes, I-Present (Jacobson), I-Absent (Smith) vote.
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Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - October 6, 1992
Page 2
VARIANCE/126 177TH AVENUE NW
Mr. Carlberg reviewed the request of John 0' Neil to construct an
accessory structure (pole building) located closer to the front lot line
than the principal structure. The ordinance calls for the exterior
finish to be similar to the house. Mr. O'Neil wishes to construct a
pole building.
John O'Neil. 126 177th Avenue NW - explained the building would be
located 300 feet from the city street. His driveway is 450 feet long.
The proposed location is the best because it is screened behind some
very mature pine trees. To place it on the other side of his house
would mean it could be seen from the road, plus it blocks the view from
his living room windows. They placed the house facing east because of
the possibility of extending Butternut along the eastern border of his
property. Mr. O'Neil also presented signatures from neighbors repre-
senting 120 acres around him, all indicating they were in agreement with
the proposed location of the structure.
Mayor Orttel noted the Planning Commission forwards this with no
recommendation, as the motion for approval tied on a 3-3 vote.
Councilmember Jacobson felt the provision of the ordinance was designed
for the smaller lots. This is a very large lot in the most northern
portion of the City, and there is enough existing screening from the
road.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by McKelvey, accepting the Resolution for
the variance request with the word "approve". (See resolution R181-92)
Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Smith) vote.
DOG BITE/159TH AVENUE
No one came forth to testify in this matter.
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by McKelvey, a Resolution declaring a Pit Bull
owned by Eugene Schultz, 4624 l59th Avenue NW as a "Biting Dog". (See
Resolution R182-92) Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Smith) vote.
DOG BITE/TULIP STREET
No one came forth to testify in this matter.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by MCKelvey, a Resolution declaring a dog
owned by Jerome L. Gau, 17757 Tulip Street NW as a "Biting Dog". (See
Resolution R183-92) Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Smith) vote.
The Council expressed concern that the number of dog bit incidents seems
to be rising. Staff was encouraged to continue looking at animal
control options.
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Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - October 6, 1992
Page 3
ECHO RIDGE SKETCH PLAN
Mr. Carlberg reviewed the sketch plan of Echo Ridge as requested by Tony
Emmerich. The Council discussed proposed alignments for Commercial
Boulevard at the last meeting. He asked if the Council wishes the
developer to continue with the platting process. Mayor Orttel stated
the Council cannot make a decision on the alignment of Commercial
Boulevard until the appraisals are received. Attorney Hawkins advised
he has hired another appraiser and guessed the information should be
made available by the end of the month. Councilmember Jacobson ques-
tioned the lot line configuration for Lots 1 and 2, Block 2.
Tonv Emmerich. Developer - stated they must work around the exiting
house, and that is the only way to accomplish the setbacks and still
have the proper square footage. After some discussion, the Council
generally felt it would be better to have a straight lot line even if it
means having to grant a variance, because the proposed configuration may
be confusing and may cause problems in the future.
Mr. Emmerich - stated he will look at that again. His main concern is
with the alignment of Commercial Boulevard so he can proceed with the
platting. Mayor Orttel stated the alignment shown is the favored one;
however, it will depend upon the appraisals received. The main problem
is west of Jay Street. He didn't think the road would be moved south of
the proposed alignment. If anything, it could go north.
Mr. Emmerich - stated there would not be substantial changes if the
alignment changes; however, he would prefer to keep the commercial lot
proposed to the south as that is where he hopes to have his office in
the future. He also asked about Jay Street. If there is to be a cul-
de-sac at Commercial Boulevard, it would affect the location of the lot
lines of Lots 1 and 2, Block 1- He'd like some decision made on Jay
Street. Mayor Orttel thought if there is to be a cul-de-sac that it
could be pulled back and run driveways off of the two lots.
Mr. Emmerich - stated that would work for him. He stated he is
personally in favor of a cul-de-sac on Jay Street.
The Council had no objections to the general configuration the proposed
plat other than the lot line on Block 2.
WILBER AUTO PARTS BUILDING REQUEST
Council agreed to table the request until after the October 13 meeting
which has been set with the Planning and Zoning Commission, the Andover
Economic Development Committee and owners and operators of the salvage
yard/junkyard operations.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by McKelvey, to table this issue until
after the October 13 meeting. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, 1-Absent
(Smith) vote.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - October 6, 1992
Page 4
AMEND ORDINANCE 8, SECTION 4.21, FENCING
In discussing the proposed amendment, the Council agreed to the
following clarifications:
(C) ...shall be removed or repaired to an original condition by
the owner upon action of the City Council.
(E) Barbed wire and electric fences shall not be permitted on
lots of less than 2.5 acres. A sixty (60)-day amortization period
shall be established for non-conforming fences.
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by McKelvey, the Ordinance amending Ordinance
8 known as the Fence and Wall Section, 4.21, with the following Changes:
Under Section 3, the "or repaired" will be changed to read, "or repaired
to an original condition...". And under Section E, the words "platted
residential" will be stricken and the words, "lots of less than 2.5
acres" will be inserted. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Smith)
vote.
AMEND ORDINANCE 10, SECTION 4, DEFINITIONS
Mayor Orttel explained the intent of the amendment is to provide a
definition for the word "buildable". He was concerned that the
definition states "highest anticipated water table" which anticipates
something in the future; in the past the wording was "highest known
water table." Mr. Schrantz stated this allows for a hydrologist to
determine the anticipated water table where it is expected the water
will not reach the highest mottled soils because of drainage changes.
Mayor Orttel stated the 6.s-foot requirement relates to the State septic
system code that has to do with rural lots. The definition also
requires all organic material to be removed and replaced to a finished
grade. On a 2.5-acre lot, 39,000 square feet is needed to be buildable;
but as written, it appears that the entire lot must be made buildable.
Mr. Carlberg stated Ordinance 10 states the 39,000 square feet shall be
buildable in the R-1 rural area.
Mayor Orttel asked if an urban lot along a creek would be required to
have the organic material along the creek removed before it is
buildable. Mr. Carlberg suggested a definition of "buildable" be
established for both urban and rural lots. Mayor Orttel agreed.
Jerrv Windschilt - didn't have a problem with defining "buildable"; but
as written, he felt it will virtually eliminate any further development
in the rural area. When developing in the urban area, the developers
meet the FHA standards and requirements, which is 4 feet above the
mottled soil or highest known water table. This amendment exceeds that
standard by 2.5 feet. Mayor Orttel explained the FHA 4-foot require-
ment is from the basement floor; whereas, the City's 6.5-foot require-
ment is measured from the top of the ground.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - October 6, 1992
Page 5
(Amend Ordinance 10, Section 4, Definitions, Continued)
Mr. Windschitl - felt this is extremely confusing, asking why the FHA
rules aren't simply adopted. He explained a soils engineer determines
the soils by a series of soil borings. If an engineer would have to
certify that every trace of organic material was removed, the cost would
be prohibitive because many more soil borings would need to be taken.
Plus the earth moving to create a 39,000-square-foot pad in the rural
area would be cost prohibitive. Other cities have designated buildable
areas smaller than 39,000 square feet that have soils completely free of
organic material, but the rest of the lot could remain in its natural
form. Mayor Orttel noted that there really has not been a problem in
the past 16 or 17 years except in one incident; and that incident has
caused this definition to come about.
The Council was concerned with having to remove all organic material on
all lots and wanted a clear distinction between rural and urban lots.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by McKelvey, to table the item to the next
meeting. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Smith) vote.
DNR DENIAL ELDORADO STREET CROSSING
Mayor Orttel explained the City can demand a hearing on the order
denying the wetland crossing on Eldorado Street NW. Mr. Schrantz
expected that the information the City has would be presented at that
hearing. Council also pointed out a discrepancy in that the denial
indicates the City did not look at other options such as spanning over
all or part of the wetland; however, the City was told by the DNR that
that was not an option.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, that we authorize the Mayor and
other officials of the City to proceed with the request for a hearing on
the matter of the crossing on Eldorado Street NW as noted in the Agenda
material. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Smith) vote.
EIDELWEISS STREET NW DISCUSSION
Mr. Schrantz explained comments have been received from property owners
living in Woodland Creek concerning traffic volumes that will be
generated from the 3rd Addition. There is about 700 feet between the
3rd Addition and the existing Eidelweiss Street. The extension of
Eidelweiss would provide better access for fire and rescue, and
distribute the traffic volumes, and would be used to loop the watermain.
Staff has met with representatives of the School District, and they have
several concerns. One is the street would sever the school property
from the eagle scout nature center project by the creek.
Mayor Orttel questioned whether the City would have the authority to
condemn school property if it felt a road is needed. Attorney Hawkins
stated he would investigate that further.
Regular Andover city Council Meeting
Minutes - October 6, 1992
Page 6
(Eidelweiss Street NW Discussion, Continued)
Dave Weineqer, 13915 Ivvwood - stated neither he nor any or his
neighbors realized that when the 3rd Addition was developed that all the
traffic would be channeled through their 1st and 2nd Additions. He felt
it is important for the City to look at another access for the 42 new
homes in the 3rd Addition. It didn't make sense to him to run all that
traffic through the existing developments. When the Woodland Creek plat
was originally approved, the Council Minutes indicate a lot of discus-
sion about the traffic. For the safety of their neighborhoods, he urged
the Council not to make the traffic come through their subdivision.
Chuck ? ,3255 138th Lane - had the same concerns. He also noted the
extreme difficulty they have now getting onto Bunker Lake Boulevard, and
the construction of the development will generate even further traffic.
There is no traffic control for getting onto Bunker Lake Boulevard, and
police and fire safety is also a consideration.
Hank Roberts, 13896 Ivvwood - had a concern for the children now with
the traffic going in and out; but an additional 42 homes will impact
that safety factor considerably. He was also disappointed because they
were lead to believe when they bought their homes that Eidelweiss would
be another exit from the development; everyone assumed the road would be
put through. He then asked all those present for this item with the
same concerns to stand. Approximately 30 to 35 people stood up.
Mayor Orttel stated another issue is the seven or eight residents that
bought on a private dead-end street on Eidelweiss. Extending that
street will change the character of their neighborhood. He was also
concerned about the intersection of Eidelweiss and Bunker Lake Boule-
vard, stating it is one of the most dangerous areas in the City. Adding
more traffic would make that intersection even more dangerous, and he
questioned whether the county would be in favor. With the upgrading of
Bunker Lake Boulevard, center islands are being planned past Eidelweiss.
Traffic lights are to be installed at Marigold, the existing entrance
into Woodland Creek. The Mayor also argued that the traffic pattern
from the proposed Woodland Creek 3rd Addition through the existing
developments is not uncommon for Andover. He hoped there would be
another option, possibly a different alignment for another outlet from
woodland Creek 3rd Addition.
councilmember Jacobson stated Meadowcreek Church has plans for the
future for either missionary housing or senior citizen housing in the
northwest corner of their property. At that time the street stub into
Woodland Creek 3rd Addition may be opened as an exit, but he thought it
would be more likely that the traffic from their housing would come
south to Bunker Lake Boulevard through their property.
A lengthy debate continued with residents explaining their fears and
frustrations of having the additional traffic come through their
neighborhoods. Though the Council recognized the desire for an
additional exit, several items must first be considered. Staff was
asked to talk further with the School District about the road going
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Minutes - October 6, 1992
Page 7
(Eidelweiss Street NW Discussion, Continued)
through their property, feeling special consideration could be given
regarding the safety issue of children having to cross the street to use
the nature center. An alternative alignment might to be bring the
Eidelweiss exit behind the houses on the west side of Eidelweiss, on the
east side of the school property where the water loop is being proposed.
The residents along the existing Eidelweiss should also be involved,
plus the Attorney must check into the legality of condemning the school
property for the road easement if necessary.
Keith Jessen, 3118 139th Avenue - stated the residents would like to see
some way that the development of Woodland Creek 3rd Addition be delayed
until a decision can be made to the community's satisfaction on the
extension of Eidelweiss Street. The Council noted the preliminary plat
has already been approved, and the developer has the right to proceed
with the project. Also, this extension is outside of the plat; and the
question of financing the road must be addressed.
Several residents expressed frustration that they were lead to believe
that that exit would be provided when this development was done, that
the maps showed it as a stub street, implying it would be extended,
rather than a cul-de-sac street. A resident also noted that with the
street extension, the children in their area would walk to school.
Without it, all of them will be bussed back to Crooked Lake School.
Byron Westlund, woodland Development - stated they hope to get the sewer
and water in this fall to have lots available for sale after the first
of the year. He also stated they were asked by the City to provide the
stub street.
Council agreed to table the issue for further discussions with the
school district and the county, to look at alternative alignments, and
to research the legal issue. It was hoped the item can be on the
October 21, 1992, meeting Agenda.
AZTEC STREET/WOODLAND DEVELOPMENT
Bvron Westlund, Woodland Development - asked for approval of an
agreement between the City and Woodland Development for the paving of
Aztec Street NW from Blackfoot Street NW to 178th Lane NW and 178th Lane
NW east of Aztec Street NW to the existing pavement. The City of
Andover would be responsible for 1 unit for Timber Trails park, with the
City's share not to exceed $5,000. This would complete the paving of
Aztec Street. They have agreements with both of the residents who will
be affected. Mr. Schrantz explained the Agreement will call for someone
representing the City to do the inspections.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, that we accept the Agreement for
Aztec Street NW, project 92-23, as presented, subject to signing by
Woodland Development. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Smith) vote.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - October 6, 1992
Page 8
BUILDING DEPARTMENT ITEM
Dave Almqren, Buildinq Official - explained a house on 7th Ave. uas gG:'cced
by fire, and the Council has issued a temporary mobile home permit.
When he inspected the building, he thought there might be structural
problems. The insurance company has paid the owner for the total of the
insurance policy. He has suggested the owners obtain an opinion from a
structural engineer.
Mayor Orttel stated the concern of the owners is that the City pay for
the structural engineer. Attorney Hawkins stated the State Building
Code gives Mr. Almgren the authority to insist on a structural analysis
of the building if he feels it isn't safe.
Council agreed that the cost of the structural analysis is to be borne
by the property owners.
NON-DISCUSSION ITEMS
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, move in the affirmation the
following Agenda items:
12. Appoint Tree Commission Member (James Lindquist)
17. Replacement of Warning siren Motors
18. Appoint Election Judges (Resolution R184-92)
19. Authorization to Hire Temporary Public Works Employee
(wage increase for Rick Vickstrom and two temporary full-time
employees)
21. Order Assessment Hearing/Grace Lutheran Church/92-7 (See
Resolution R18s-92)
22. Order Assessment Hearing/176th Lane/92-9 (See Res. R186-92)
23. Order Assessment Hearing/Delinquent Utilities (See Resolution
R187-92)
24. Order Assessment Hearing/Mowing Charges (See Res. R188-92)
25. Order Assessment Hearing/Alarm Call Fines (See Res. R197-92)
26. Revise Authorization to Sell/Assign/Transfer Funds (See
Resolution R189-92)
27. Delete Plans & Specs/92-18/Watt's Garden Acres
29. Receive August Financial Statements
30. Approve Holmberg Addition Streets (See Resolution R190-92)
35. Proclamation/Physician Assistant Day
36. Order Ad for Bids for Electric and Plumbing/Senior Center
Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Smith) vote.
SCHEDULE MEETING WITH COUNCIL/PLANNING COMMISSION/EDC
The Council agreed to a special meeting on Tuesday, October 13, 1992, at
7:00 p.m. to discuss allowing the recycling/junkyard dealers to
construct buildings for the storage of parts, etc.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - October 6, 1992
Page 9
DNR SHORELAND GRANT APPLICATION
Mr. Carlberg explained this is an information item that the City has
requested $1,000 in matching fund dollars to assist in adopting or
amending a shoreland management ordinance consistent with statewide
standards. No Council action was taken.
RESIDENT SURVEY/RECYCLING
Cindv DeRuvter. Recvclinq Coordinator - asked for Council input to do a
Resident Survey on recycling. It is part of the educational and
promotional efforts the City is required to do. Two other cities have
done similar surveys. The problem is the cost of having the surveys
mailed back to the City.
Council suggested Ms. DeRuyter look at the possibility of having the
survey taken home by the elementary school children and returned to the
school. They also suggested the format of the survey be changed so it
is more attractive and easier to answer.
LICENSING OF GARBAGE HAULERS/PROPOSED ORDINANCE
Ms. DeRuvter - explained by January 1, 1993, the City is required to
license all municipal solid waste collectors that provide curbside
collection service. In addition, the City must ensu::-e that every
residential household and business in the City has solid waste collec-
tion service unless it ensures that an environmentally sound alternative
is used. She asked if the Council wishes to consider assigning
districts to the various haulers so there isn't five trucks coming down
a street on different days of the week to collect garbage.
The Council acknowledged the need for an ordinance and suggested Ms.
DeRuyter check with other cities regarding territories for haulers. They
did not want to get in the position of the City billing for garbage
handling.
APPROVE PURCHASE/BUILDING DEPARTMENT VEHICLE AND RADIO
Dave Almqren, Buildinq Official - reviewed the lowest of three bids for
a Blazer from Main Motors. with the radios, the total cost comes to
$21,501.24, with the monies to come from the Building Department fund.
Councilmember Jacobson questioned the need for both a portable and
mobile radio. Mr. Amgren explained the need to contact the City Hall
with a portable radio while doing an inspection, plus the need for the
mobile radio in the vehicle. They have operated in this manner for a
number of years, and they found it to be the most efficient method.
without the portable, it takes a while to get back to the vehicle to
call back to the City Hall; and often it is to answer questions for
callers.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - October 6, 1992
Page 10
(Approve Purchase/Building Department and Radio, Continued)
Councilmember Jacobson understood, but given the severe cutbacks in the
City's budget, he felt this is an area that could also be cut back.
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by MCKelvey, approval of the request of the
Building Department for the purchase of a 1993 S-10 4-door four-wheel
drive Blazer as presented for a total cost of $21,501.24; and this money
is going to come from the Building Department budget. Motion carried on
a 3-Yes, I-No (Jacobson) , 1-Absent (Smith) vote.
BLACKTOP PROPOSAL/GARAGE AT CITY HALL AND STAPLES CEMETERY
Dave Almqren. Buildinq Official - stated the City has rented a paving
machine. He is proposing to blacktop the area in front of the new
garage for a cost of approximately $900, and to blacktop the parking lot
at Staples Cemetery for a cost of $1,800.
The Council was not in favor of paving the parking lot at Staples
Cemetery, feeling the area should remain more rustic in nature. Because
the blacktop in front of the new garage will not be disturbed with the
construction of the new well and pumphouse, the Council agreed to this
proj ect.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, that the City Council authorize
the construction of the parking mat of approximately 50' x 75' of
blacktop for the approximate cost of $900 to be placed in front of the
new garage just to the west of City Hall, and the funds for this project
to be taken from the Building Department funds. Motion carried on a 4-
Yes, 1-Absent ( Smith) vote.
DISCUSSION/CODE ENFORCEMENT PERSON/GIS
Councilmember Perry explained the Personnel Committee has recommended a
Code Enforcement position be created instead of the contract Building
Inspector. They are also recommending that a GIS position be created,
and fund this permanent part-time position of 24 hours per week by
eliminating the part-time Zoning Administrator position. The Code
Enforcement person would be a half-time Building Inspector and half-time
outside zoning inspector. The GIS position would not be created until
the GIS equipment and a GIS program is in place.
Mayor Orttel was concerned that with the number of houses being built in
Andover, three full-time Building Inspectors are needed now. That would
leave little or no time for the contract inspector to do code enforce-
ment. In addition, he questioned how the Council would justify
increasing the payroll when it was already agreed that no new positions
would be created. Councilmember Jacobson was also concerned with the
split responsibilities of a Code Enforcement person and eliminating the
current Zoning Administrator position when the City is already behind in
zoning ordinance enforcement.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - October 6, 1992
Page 11
(Discussion/Code Enforcement Person/GIS, Continued)
Councilmember Perry argued that with the new growth and demands of the
City, the existing Staff has no extra time to do the GIS work. She
realized this means an extra half-time position; however, she felt that
with the new growth, additional staffing will be needed. Both Mr.
Almgren and Mr. Carlberg felt the combined position would allow them to
continue with the code enforcement during the off season and the
building inspections as needed.
Mayor Orttel didn't believe the City had the money for the additional
personnel, and these are not revenue-raising positions. He asked to see
the numbers as to how many hours the contract Building Inspector worked
and how many hours would be left for code enforcement, and he'd like to
see the budget for next year. He was afraid that by combing the
positions, the cost will be more than anticipated. Mr. Schrantz stated
the money for the GIS hardware and software would come from the mapping
fund. It was agreed to table the item pending more information on
funding and hours worked by the contract Building Inspector.
MOTION by MCKelvey, Seconded by Perry, to table it to the next meeting.
Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Smith) vote
APPROVE FEASIBILITY REPORT/IP92-20/WOODLAND CREEK 3RD
Mr. Davidson explained the developer hopes to have the utilities in the
ground by the end of the construction season. There is the possibility
the contractor who did the Meadows of Round Lake project would do this
project as a change order to that contract. That would shorten the time
period for the project to begin. Attorney Hawkins advised as long as it
does not exceed 25 percent of the contract, it is an acceptable
procedure. Council questioned whether it is wise to do the water loop
extension to Bunker Lake Boulevard at the same time.
Mr. Davidson stated the loop can be done at any time as a separate
project. The location may also be premised on whether or not those on
Eidelweiss Street want to have municipal water. It would be easier to
run the line along the school property line rather than tear up
Eidelweiss Street for it. He recommended the water loop be done within
the next year or two, perhaps as a part of the project in the spring
when bids are taken for the street restoration. He asked for approval
of the feasibility report and authorize negotiations with the contractor
to put in the underground utilities subject to review and approval of
the developer. If that is agreeable, he will come back with a change
order at the next meeting. If not, he will bid the project.
MOTION by McKelvey, Seconded by Jacobson, to accept the feasibility
study, waive the public hearing and order the improvement and directing
preparation of plans and specifications for the Woodland Creek 3rd
Addition, Project 92-20. (See Resolution R191-92) Motion carried on a
4-Yes, I-Absent (Smith) vote.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - October 6, 1992
Page 12
ORDER FEASIBILITY REPORT/ANDOVER BOULEVARD WATER/IP92-22
Mr. Davidson explained that two residences did not get their wells back
after the sanitary sewer project was done to Pinewood Estates. They were
substandard wells; however, they would like to bid the watermain along
Andover Boulevard between Crosstown and Hanson Boulevards as a separate
project. The monies would be available according to the last financial
report.
There was some discussion on the City's liability when a well is
destroyed as a result of a City project. Attorney Hawkins advised that
legally the City has the right to put in the project. The wells were
non-conforming and the City is not financially liable for restoring
those wells.
Council also noted that if Andover Boulevard were turned back to the
City as an MSA City street, the street would not have to be paved until
next spring, monies would be saved in the sanitary sewer project
contract earmarked for street replacement, and the county would donate
some funds in lieu of upgrading the street prior to turning it over to
the City. If it remains a county road, it must be paved this fall to
county standards of 4.5 inches of bituminous and 6 inches of Class s.
Mr. Davidson noted the urgency is to get water to the people as soon as
possible.
Mr. Schrantz stated the project would be done, but it cannot be assessed
until a hearing is held. He also noted that all the houses are stubbed
for sanitary sewer along Andover Boulevard. In addition, the City has
received a petition of 11 signatures in favor of the project.
Council agreed to put in the water line now, to talk to the county about
turning Andover Boulevard over to the City as a City street, and to
research the amount of funds available to reconstruct it.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, the Resolution as prepared
ordering preparation of a feasibility report for trunk watermain,
Project No. 92-22. (See Resolution R192-92) Motion carried on a 4-Yes,
I-Absent (Smith) vote.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, the City Council accept the
feasibility report for the watermain project, IP92-22, as presented by
TKDA to the Council this evening, order the preparation of plans and
specifications and order advertisement of bids. (See Resolution R193-
92) Motion carried on a 4-Yes, 1-Absent (Smith) vote.
ORDER SPEED LIMIT/OLD CONSTANCE BOULEVARD
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by McKelvey, the Resolution approving a 40-
MPH speed limi t along Old Constance Boulevard as presented. (See
Resolution R194-92) Motion carried on a 4-Yes, 1-Absent (Smith) vote.
Regular Andover City Council Meeting
Minutes - October 6, 1992
Page 13
APPROVE REVISED GRADING PLAN/TIMBER TRAILS (CEDAR HILLS ESTATES)
Mr. Schrantz explained the revised grading plan for Timber Trails is to
be reviewed by the Building Official on a case-by-case basis when each
building permit is applied for. When they did the soil borings for the
plat, they didn't find any perched water tables. But they are finding
it when they build on the lots. There are some clay lenses that have
water sitting above it every once in awhile.
MOTION by McKelvey, Seconded by Perry, introducing a Resolution
approving the revised grading and drainage plan of Timber Trails (Cedar
Hills Estates) as being developed by Lawrence B. Carlson in Section 5,
Township 32, Range 24, Anoka county. (See Resolution R195-92 )
DISCUSSION: Bvron Westlund - stated the soil borings across the street
show no water at a depth of 21 feet. Someone had an hand auger
indicating he found mottled soil at 60 inches. If the soil borings
shown on the plat are used, the basement elevations could come down.
The soil borings for Timber Trails 1st Addition were done in 1972 on the
southern part of the plat. When they did the soil borings for Cedar
Hills 2nd Addition, they found the water table could be lower and they
asked for a revision of the grading plan. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, 1-
Absent (Smith) vote.
APPROVE REVISED GRADING PLAN/WINSLOW HILLS 2ND
Mr. Schrantz stated the revised grading and drainage plan for Winslow
Hills 2nd Addition is a formality to allow for basement walkout homes.
MOTION by McKelvey, Seconded by Perry, a Resolution approving the
revised grading and drainage plan of Winslow Hills 2nd Addition as being
developed by Winslow Hills Properties in Section 23, Township 32, Range
24, Anoka County. (See Resolution R196-92) Motion carried on a 3-Yes,
I-Present (Jacobson), I-Absent (Smith) vote. Councilmember Jacobson was
concerned with the number of revised grading plans. The preliminary
plats are reviewed carefully to be sure everything is done right; but
then revisions are asked for in the grading and drainage plans. Because
this is so complicated, he was concerned that many changes can signifi-
cantly change what the plat looks like. Mr. Schrantz stated these
revisions are to make the City's drainage system work better.
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by McKelvey, the Schedule of Bills dated 10-2-
92 in the amount of $322,042.68. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent
(Smith) vote.
MOTION by McKelvey to adjourn. Mayor Orttel declared the meeting
.djourn.d .t ll'~
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ella A. Peach, Recording Secretary