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CITY of ANDOVER
Regular City Council Meeting - March 2, 1992
7:30 P.M. Call to Order
Resident Forum
Agenda Approval
Approval of Minutes
Discussion Items
I. Ed Lutz Sketch plan
2. Rezoning/variance - Donna Green
3. Variance - T. Johnson/172xx Tulip Street NW
HRA Meeting
4 . ACCAP Proposal
5. Award Bid/Lindgren Property
Closed Meeting With Attorney
Staff, Committee, Commissions
6. Schedule Hearing/Kelsey-Round Lake Park
7. Schedule Hearing/Trunk Sewer Extension
8. Fire Department
9. Andover Express Delivery
Non-Discussion Items
10. probationary Increase/Public Works Employee
II. Salary Adjustments/public Works Supervisors
12. Approve Gambling Permit/Andover Alano Society
13. Accept Petition/92-4;Winslow Hills 2nd Addn.
14. Appoint Election Judges/presidential primary
15. Acknowledge Policy/Bad Check Fees
16. Receive January Financial Statements
Mayor/Council Input
Approval of Claims
Adjournment
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REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING - MARCH 2, 1992
TABLE OF CONTENTS
RESIDENT FORUM . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
AGENDA APPROVAL · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
APPROVAL OF MINUTES · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
REZONING/VARIANCE - DONNA GREEN · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
ResolutIon R025-92 approvIng request · · · · · · · · · · · · · 3
VARIANCE - T. JOHNSON/1722XX TULIP STREET (Refer to P & Z) · · · · 3
METROPOLITAN COUNCIL/COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS . · · · · · · · 4
MEETING DATE WITH RESIDENTS/GRACE LUTHERAN CHURCH ACCESS . · · · · 5
SCHEDULE HEARING/KELSEY-ROUND LAKE PARK AND TRUNK SEWER
EXTENSION (Thursday, March 19. 1992) · · · · · · · · · · · · · 6
FIRE DEPARTMENT · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 6
ANDOVER EXPRESS DELIVERY . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 10
NON-DISCUSSION ITEMS
ProbatIonary Increase/PublIc Works Employee. · · · · · · · · · 10
Salary Adjustments/PublIc Works SupervIsors. · · · · · · · · · 10
ResolutIon R026-92 - Accept Petitlon/92-4/Wlnslow HIlls 2nd. · 10
ResolutIon R027-92 - AppoInt ElectIon Judges/PrImary · · · · · 10
Receive January FInancIal Statements · · · · · · · · · · · · · 10
APPROVE GAMBLING PERMIT/ANDOVER ALANO SOCIETY · · · · · · · · · · 10
ACKNOWLEDGE POLICY/BAD CHECK FEES · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 10
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 11
ADJOURNMENT . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1 1
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~ CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - MARCH 2, 1992
MINUTES
The Regular BI-Monthly MeetIng of the Andover CIty CouncIl was called
to order by Mayor Ken Orttel on March 2, 1992, 7:30 p.m., at the
Andover CIty HaJJ, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, MInnesota.
Councllmembers present: Jacobson, McKelvey, SmIth
CouncIlmember absent: Perry
Also present: City Attorney, WIlliam G. Hawkins
City Planner, DavId Carlberg
CIty FInance DIrector, Howard KoolIck
City AdminIstrator/Engineer, James Schrantz
Others
RESIDENT FORUM
Jerrv WIndschItl. 3640 152nd Lane - asked the CouncIl to reconsIder
hIs request to submIt a Minor Amendment to the ComprehensIve Plan for
approval to extend sanitary sewer to hIs property for development.
Because the 90-day revIew perIod has not yet started for the CIty's
maIn ComprehensIve Plan, tIme Is becomIng a crItIcal factor. WI thout
a MInor Amendment, the construction season Is vIrtually lost. The
bIggest advantage of the MInor Amendment Is It has only a 60-day
revIew perIod. Mayor Orttel stated he has met wIth the CIty's
MetropolItan CouncIl representatIve, statIng the Item wIll be added to
the Agenda.
Dale Strassburc. 3422 136th Lane - stated the resIdents found out
about the proposed street between Bunker Lake Boulevard and 136th
Lane. Most of the neIghbors In Chapman's AddItIon are opposed to It
because I twill create addItIonal unnecessary traffIc and a safety
concern for the chlJdren In the area. They also thInk motorIsts wIll
cut through theIr neIghborhood to avoid the stop 11ght congestIon on
Round Lake Boulevard. In the past the City CouncIl has always gIven a
hIgh prIorIty to keepIng unnecessary traffIc from the neIghborhood.
He also noted a petItIon to the Council sIgned by 48 households
opposIng the constructIon of that street.
Mayor OrtteJ stated there are no plans to construct that street at
thIs tIme. The Counc I 1 Is aware of the feelIngs of the neIghborhood.
The problem Is provIding an access to Grace Lutheran Church because
they wI 1 I be cut off wIth the Improvement of Bunker Lake Boulevard.
The AssIstant CIty EngIneer Is lookIng Into several optIons to provIde
prIvate access wIthout havIng to construct the connecting street. He
assured the resIdents that before any decIsIon Is made on a connectIng
street, the resIdents wIll be notIfIed In wrItIng of a hearIng.
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Regular CIty CouncIl Meeting
MInutes - March 2, 1992
Page 2
(ResIdent Fo~um, ContInued)
Bob Starr. 138th Avenue. Red Oaks Manor - explaIned the problem they
are havIng In the nelghbo~hood wIth st~ay cats. They a~e concerned
wIth the number of cats multIplyIng. They have not been able to
captu~e them nor locate theIr source of food. They are conce~ned wIth
rabIes and the other undesl~abIe aspects of stray cats. They are
lookIng to the CIty CouncIl to provIde other alternatIves. Mayor
Orttel stated he has dIscussed thIs problem wIth the CIty Cle~k.
SInce the CIty sponso~ed the Anoka Humane SocIety when they buIlt
theIr facIlItIes, he suggested the CIty ask them If they would be
wIllIng to help wIth thIs problem. He suggested the neIghbors keep In
touch wIth the CIty Cle~k.
She 1 la Freeman. 13761 QuInn Street NW - requested some way to slow
down the traffIc on their st~eet. So far two dogs have been kIlled
and numerous maIlboxes knocked ove~. There are no traffIc sIgns
anywhe~e, nor speed lImIt sIgns. There Is also a blind intersection
at 138th Avenue. Mr. Schrantz dIdn't thInk It was sIgned and ag~eed
to look Into the matte~.
AGENDA APPROVAL
It was agreed to delete Item 1, Ed Lutz Sketch Plan, and to add Items
3a, MetropolItan CouncIl/ComprehensIve Plan Amendments; and 3b,
MeetIng Date wIth ResIdents/Grace Lutheran Chu~ch Access.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by SmIth, to approve the Agenda as
amended. MotIon ca~rled on a 4-Yes, I-Absent <Perry) vote.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Feb~ua~y 18. 1992. Regula~ MeetIng - Co~~ect as w~ltten.
February 18, 1992. HRA MeetIng - Correct as wrItten.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by SmIth. approval of both of the
MeetIng MInutes as wrItten. MotIon carrIed on a 4-Yes. I-Absent
(Perry) Vote.
REZONING/VARIANCE - DONNA GREEN
Mr. Carlbe~g revIewed the ~equest of Donna G~een to rezone p~ope~ty at
the northwestern corne~ of Bunker Lake Boulevard and Crosstown D~lve
from R-4 to NB, NeIghborhood BusIness. The reason fo~ the rezonIng
~equest Is that the parcel Is not att~actlve for sIngle famIly
housing, and an NB zone would make It mo~e marketable. If the
rezonIng Is allowed, two varIances wIll be needed, one for lot wIdth
at the f~ont setback off Crosstown DrIve, and one for the lot sIze
requIrement. The PlannIng and ZonIng CommIssIon recommended app~oval.
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Regular CIty CouncIl Meeting
MInutes - March 2, 1992
Page 3
(RezonIng/VarIance - Donna Green, ContInued)
Mr. Carlberg stated concern about the traffIc was expressed at the
publIc hearIng. That wI II be addressed when a sIte plan Is submItted.
If there Is an access on Bunker Lake Boulevard. It would only be a
rIght In. rIght out. The upgradIng of that road cal Is for a medIan In
front of thIs parcel to the IntersectIon.
Councllmember Jacobson questIoned If It Is reasonable to rezone a
property Just to make It more marketable. WIth all the other retaIl
establIshments In close proximIty along Bunker Lake Boulevard and
others proposed on Crosstown Boulevard and Hanson Boulevard, he
questIoned how many more lIttle NB areas are really needed. He
recalled at the tIme the Green property was subdIvided Into residen-
tial housIng that thIs outlot was not Intended to be commercIal.
Mr. Carlberg argued a NB zonIng would be compatIble wIth the entIre
area, that resIdentIal use Is not the hIghest and best use of the
property, and that It Is In the CIty's best Interest to see the
property fullY developed. Even though the submItted ComprehensIve Plan
doesn't show It as NB, he felt It should defInItely be commercIal.
Councllmember McKelvey also noted that It Is not desIrable as
resIdentIal wIth the drapery business next door to the west. the shop
operatIng to the north and the NB busInesses to the east. He too felt
the property probably would not develop unless It Is for commercIal.
Mayor art te I noted that It Is unIque In that the locatIon of the
surroundIng houses Is such that they would not be Impacted In any way
by a commercIal buIldIng on thIs lot. The upgradIng of Bunker Lake
Boulevard wIll also Impact thIs lot and make It less desIrable for
resIdentIal development. Though Councllmember SmIth agreed It Is not
desIrable to have a gas statIon and store on every corner, he felt the
hIghest and best use of thIs lot Is not residentIal.
MOTION by Sml th, Seconded by McKelvey. the ResolutIon grantIng the
rezonIng/varIance request of Donna Green to rezone the property from
R-4, SIngle FamIly Urban to NB, NeIghborhood BusIness, as wrItten.
(See ResolutIon R025-92) VOTE: 3-Yes, I-No (Jacobson) Because a
rezonIng requires a 4/5 vote, Councllmember Jacobson then changed hIs
vote to a Yes. FINAL VOTE: Carried on a 4-Yes, I-Absent <Perry)
vote. Councllmember Jacobson understood the hardshIp Involved wIth
the parcel but objected to havIng so many NB zones In a concentrated
area. He felt that Is more than what the CIty needs to adequately
serve the people.
VARIANCE - T. JOHNSON/172XX TULIP STREET NW
Mr. Carlberg revIewed the varIance request regardIng lot wIdth at the
front setback lIne. The shape of the lot prevents the owners from
meetIng the 300-foot frontage. The PlannIng CommissIon recommended
approval of the request.
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Regular CIty CouncIl Meeting
MInutes - March 2, 1992
Page 4
(VarIance - T. Johnson/172xx TulIp street, ContInued)
Counc I I noted the request Is a major change In the polIcy whIch needs
to be consIdered carefully. If thIs one Is approved, there wI I I be
others requestIng the same thIng; and they questIoned If the CIty
wants development off of very long drIveways. Other cItIes do It;
however. there are the problems of maIntaInIng long drIveways and the
access for emergency vehIcles. Councllmember SmIth commented he has
seen thIs In other cItIes and It ends up beIng a dIsaster. It was
thought there were other optIons, such as brIngIng Poppy Street down
and subdIvIdIng the property at an angle from Poppy Street (northeast
to southwest across the parcel).
Thomas Johnson - stated there would only be one buIldable parcel If
It Is spIlt at an angle because of the low area.
MOTION by McKelvey, Seconded by SmIth, to send thIs back to the
PlannIng CommIssIon to work wIth the EngIneer for subdIvIsIon of the
property to elImInate the long drIveway. DISCUSSION: After some
dIscussIon, the Counc I I felt the PlannIng CommIssIon should gIve
further consIderatIon to the ImplIcatIons of thIs major change to the
CIty's polley, but that the varIance request should be eIther acted
upon or tabled untIl the P & Z makes theIr recommendatIon. Counc I I
also felt It Is not the Staff's responsIbIlIty to recommend
subdIvIsIon optIons for the property owners.
Mr. Johnson - verbally asked that the varIance request be tabled.
Counc I I suggested he make the request In wrItIng tonIght.
Councllmembers SmIth and McKelvey WITHDREW the Second and the MotIon.
No actIon was taken pendIng further comment and recommendatIon from
the PlannIng CommIssIon.
The Counc I I recessed to hold an HRA meetIng, 8:25 p.m.; reconvened at
8:30 p.m.
METROPOLITAN COUNCIL/COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS
Mayor Orttel reported he met wIth Ken Kunzman. the CIty's MetropolItan
Counc I 1 representatIve. Mr. Kunzman stated under the cIrcumstances
where the CIty's Plan Is beIng held up through no fault of the CIty,
It Is perfectly acceptable to submIt MInor Amendments. He wI II even
help the CIty through the process If needed. The 90-day revIew perIod
has not even started for the Plan; and past experIence Is that It can
take as long as two years to get the plan approved. Even If the
90-day period Is adhered to, this construction season will be lost for
most developers.
Regular CIty CouncIl MeetIng
MInutes - March 2, 1992
Page 5
(MetropolItan CouncIl/ComprehensIve Plan Amendments, ContInued)
Mr. Carlberg stated Staff and TKDA are meetIng wIth Met CouncIl Staff
thIs Wednesday to submIt the TransportatIon Chapter. More may be
known then as to the status of the Plan and what tIme perIod to
expect. He also noted by Met CouncIl defInItIon, a MInor Amendment Is
for anythIng under 40 acres. Councllmember Jacobson stIlI had some
concerns about submIttIng 31 acres as a MInor Amendment and that It
may not be good plannIng to submIt a number of MInor Amendments whIle
the maIn Plan Is beIng revIewed.
The Mayor argued the Met CouncIl allows them, that the areas In
questIon are Included In the CIty's proposed Comprehensive Plan and
thIs allows development In a tImely manner, and that It would be done
at no expense to the CIty since the developers wI 1 I be payIng for all
costs assocIated wIth submitting a MInor Amendment. He acknowledged
that If a MInor Amendment Is submItted for Mr. Wlndschllt, I twIll
open It up to anybody who wants to pay for It.
Jerrv WIndschltl - stated the sewer lIne Is half way through hIs
property and no trunk lIne wI I I be extended. There will not be many
other parcels that are In a slmIllar posItIon where trunk Is at the
end of theIr property. He stated there Is no realIstIc hope that the
normal process wI II allow for more constructIon thIs season. He Is
wIllIng to pay all costs assocIated wIth thIs, so there wIll be no
burden on the CIty.
After further dIscussIon, the Counc II agreed to submIt MInor
Amendments to the ComprehensIve Plan If the developer makes a request
to the Counc I I , If the area Is Included In the proposed 1991-1995
sewer dIstrIct and If the developer pays all costs assocIated wIth
submittIng the Amendment.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by McKelvey, that the City CouncIl send
to the MetropolItan CouncIl a MInor Amendment to the ComprehensIve
Plan, whIch Is currently before the MetropolItan CouncIl Staff , to
Include the approxImately 31 acres of the proposed Weybrldge AddItIon
(Insert legal) mInus 13 lots whIch have already receIved MInor
Amendment Plan approval. Costs for thIs Includes Staff tIme and
preparatIon and materIal to be totally borne by the developer, and the
CIty should bear no costs for thIs MInor Amendment. MotIon carrIed on
a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Perry) vote.
MEETING DATE WITH RESIDENTS/GRACE LUTHERAN CHURCH ACCESS
Mayor Orttel explaIned the AssIstant CIty EngIneer Is tryIng to fInd a
prIvate access to Grace Lutheran Church so a crossthrough street from
Bunker Lake Blvd. to 136th Is not necessary. In the event that some-
thing cannot be wOrked out In a prIvate agreement, the City wIll be
forced to look at some type of servIce road or crossthrough street, as
It has an oblIgatIon to help the traffIc flow to the Church property.
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Regular CIty CouncIl MeetIng
MInutes - March 2, 1992
Page 6
(MeetIng Date wIth ResIdents/Grace Lutheran Church Access, ContInued)
Because the county Is movIng ahead wIth the road Improvement projects,
the Mayor suggested the CouncIl set a date to meet wIth the resIdents
should a servIce road be needed. Unresolved questIons are how to pay
fOr a servIce road and for some of the other expenses Involved In the
county's project. Mr. Schrantz stated the Staff wIll have all
estImated costs for the project for the next CouncIl meetIng.
Pastor Steve McKInley. Grace Lutheran Church - stated they need
access; however, no one In the Church has been notIfIed about
negotIatIng a solutIon. Mayor Orttel explaIned that to date the Staff
has met wIth owners of the MedIcal BuIldIng and the county.
CouncIl agreed to hear the InformatIon on costs and solutIons to the
access problem for the church at the Regular MeetIng of March 17,
1992.
The Regular MeetIng was recessed at 8:50 p.m., to meet In closed
sessIon wIth the CIty Attorney regarding the WlndschltJ Ilgltatlon.
MeetIng reconvened at 9:22 p.m.
SCHEDULE HEARING/KELSEY-ROUND LAKE PARK AND TRUNK SEWER EXTENSION
CouncIl agreed to meet wIth the Park and RecreatIon CommIssIon on
theIr meetIng nIght for the hearIng on the addItIonal parkIng
requIrements for Kelsey-Round Lake Park. Afterwards, the CouncIl wIll
meet wIth resIdents on possIble sewer extensIon to 161st and
NIghtengale.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by McKelvey, that March 19, 1992, at
7:30 at the CIty HaIJ, schedule a hearIng date for the dIscussIons of
Kelsey-Round Lake addItIonal parkIng requIrements, and that the same
date at 8:30 be the scheduled hearIng date for potentIal sewer
extensIon In the vIcInIty of 161st Avenue and NIghtIngale, and request
Staff to mall approprIate notIces to property owners. MotIon carrIed
on a 4-Yes, 1-Absent (Perry) vote.
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FIRE DEPARTMENT
MOTION by McKelvey, Seconded by SmIth, to recommend that the FIre
Department be put under the dIrectIon of the CIty AdmInIstrator.
DISCUSSION: Councllmember McKelvey stated thIs would facIlItate the
receIvIng of FIre Department MInutes and obtaInIng accountIng
InformatIon as needed. MotIon carrIed on a 4-Yes, 1-Absent (Perry)
vote.
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Regular CIty CouncIl MeetIng
MInutes - March 2, 1992
Page 7
(FIre Department, Continued)
Fireflohter Bob Peach - read several paragraphs from a prepared
statement which had been submItted to the CouncIl clarIfyIng hIs
posItIon regarding the Improper actIons wIthIn the FIre Department.
WIth no recommendatIon for dIscIplIne for the vIolatIons and because
he has not vIolated any rules, he requested the CouncIl rescInd the
letter of dIscIplIne he has receIved whIch requIres hIm to go to
counselIng and medIation or be suspended. Mr. Peach stated he wIll
attend medIatIon wIth ActIng ChIef Mashuga voluntarIly, but not under
the threat of suspensIon. MedIatIon has been scheduled for Thursday,
March 5; and he Is willIng to go if the letter is rescInded. He asked
the Counc I ] what wI I I happen when more vIolatIons occur. He stated
that the vIolatIons of policy have not stopped, as In the last two
weeks he has been accused of gIving negatIve Information, whIch he dId
not do, and an offIcer has been appoInted whIch he does not belIeve
meets all the qualIfIcatIons for the posItIon.
Mayor Orttel stated the comments wIll be entered Into the fIle and
gIven to Mr. Schrantz. He also preferred that Mr. Schrantz work from
tomorrow forward, startIng wIth a clean slate. He dIdn't know that any
actIon Is expected because no legal hearIng was held and the ChIef has
resIgned. He understood the letter Is not what the Safety CommIttee
had agreed to but though t It had been changed. Mr. Peach stated
nothIng has been changed. He hasn't vIolated any rules that he Is
aware of, and It Is not a level playIng fIeld to medIate dIfferences.
Actinc ChIef Dale Mashuca - asked to take the letter back to the
FIre Department and Its membershIp and let them decIde on all the
Issues. Mr. Peach - stated dIdn't see what that would resolve, as
most of the FIrefIghters weren't even aware of the problems and are
not familIar wIth what happened In the Incidents. The letter was
wrItten by Dale Mashuga through the offIcers to hIm. He dIdn't think
It would be good for the entIre Department to get Involved.
Mayor Orttel tended to agree. notIng at the last meetIng he trIed to
get the letter suspended untIl the report came back, but that wasn't
successfu I . He was aware that both partIes have agreed to medIatIon.
He agaIn felt Mr. Schrantz can look at It tomorrow and make a
determInatIon. Mr. Schrantz asked Acting ChIef Mashuga If he had a
problem wIthdrawing the letter. then It won't be a problem.
Actlnc ChIef Mashuca - stated he wIll put It on hold untIl medIatIon
Is over. Mr. Peach - stated he dId not know what that means.
Actlno ChIef Mashuca - stated It means that anythIng you (Mr.
Peach) have done wIll not be acted upon untIl medIatIon Is over.
Mr. Peach - suggested the letter be put In wI th the medIatIon.
DIscussIon between the Counc I I . ActIng ChIef Mashuga. and Mr. Peach
was on the Issue of the letter. Mr. Peach agaIn stated he would go to
medIatIon, but not under the threat of suspensIon. He Is very
senstlve about what he Is found guIlty of wIthout a hearIng. There's
a lot of InformatIon In the letter that would be better medIated.
Regular CIty CouncIl MeetIng
MInutes - March 2, 1992
Page 8
(FIre Department, ContInued)
Mayor OrtteJ suggested Mr. Schrantz set up a polIcy on how dIscIpline
gets out of the FIre Department and comes to hIm. It would be up to
Mr. Schrantz to decIde If he Is the appeals person. He dIdn't thInk
It was a major Issue as far as medIatIon.
ActInc ChIef Mashuca - stated there Is a pol Icy to handle It wIthIn
the FIre Department, but In thIs Instance It got superceded. Mayor
Ortte 1 stated If there are thIngs that come up from the past, Mr.
Schrantz can direct them to the CouncIl; but hIs responsIbIlItIes wIll
begIn from today forward In makIng It one of the CIty Departments. Mr.
Schrantz can also decIde what wIll happen wI th the letter to Mr Peach.
DIscussIon contInued on the Issue of medIatIon and the letter to Mr.
Peach, and how It came about. Councllmember McKelvey stated ActIng
ChIef Mashuga has told hIm he would change the letter and send another
one, but that has not been done either.
ActInc Chief Mashuca - stated he told Councllmember McKelvey that he
has done nothIng because the CouncIl held the letter up and It was not
to be acted upon. Mr. Schrantz asked who can suspend. Counc I I stated
that would remaIn wIth the ChIef. Mr. Schrantz would handle I t when
the Issue bolls over. EverythIng would be held wIthIn the Department.
The only thIng Mr. Schrantz would prImarily be Involved In Is the
ChIef hImself. Mr. Schrantz asked to dIscuss hIs responsIbIlItIes
relatIve to the FIre Department. Mayor Orttel agreed that could be
done at some future date.
Mayor Orttel asked ActIng ChIef Mashuga If It Is necessary for the
letter to be out If there Is medIatIon. Actlno ChIef Mashuca -
stated he would have changed It If It wouldn't have been for the fact
that It was held up by the CouncIl. He wou]d have changed what was In
It, but possIbly stIlI have a suspensIon. Mayor Orttel suggested It
accomplIshes the same thIng wIthout the suspensIon In the letter.
Actlno ChIef Mashuoa - stated he would have to go back to the
offIcers. Mayor Orttel stated the wIsh of the Counc I I for medIatIon,
and medIatIon Isn't goIng to go well If you can't agree to the letter
beforehand. Councllmember SmIth stated If there Is genuIne concern on
both your behalves to resolve the Issues wIthIn the FIre Department.
all the Issues that prompted thIs Jetter to be written wl]1 come up In
medIatIon. So thIs Jetter Is not necessary. The Counc I I Is sayIng
the letter has no place. Call It an act of good faIth by Bob to get
to medIatIon and start on a new foot; get rId of the letter.
Councllmember McKelvey agreed.
Actlna Chief Mashuaa - thIs letter was put In place by the officers
group and he wllJ take It back to the offIcers. He responded to Mr.
Peach's comment that an offIcer was put In place wIthout havIng
qual iflcatJons. He stated that Is untrue, as the TraIning CommIttee
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Regular CIty CouncIl MeetIng
MInutes - March 2, 1992
Page 9
(FIre Department, ContInued)
went through the qualIfIcatIons and gave hIm a lIst of people who were
qualIfIed for offIcers. That Is the lIst he used. He also stated
that whenever authorIty Is taken away from the FIre Department, they
lose, statIng he has no authorIty now. Mayor Orttel dIsagreed he has
lost any authorIty, and he felt I twIll work better now that the
Department Is under the CIty AdmInIstrator.
Actlnc ChIef Mashuca - asked what are hIs hIs responsIbIlItIes now
that they are workIng under Mr. Schrantz. Mayor Orttel stated It Is
the same as It has always been. It Is just If somethIng lIke thIs
comes up agaIn, I t wI I I go to Mr. Schrantz, not to the CouncI I. By In
large, the Department wIll be as Independent a body as possIble
because It Is a very unIque Department In the CIty.
Actlnc ChIef Mashuca - asked that the MInutes for thIs portIon of
the meetIng be transcrIbed other than by Marcella Peach. Mayor Ortte 1
felt that can be done, though they would probably be the same, as It
has never been a problem. (NOTE TO COUNCIL: I am preparIng the
MInutes for thIs portIon of the meetIng as agreed to by CIty
AdmInIstrator JIm Schrantz per our phone conversatIon of March 3,
1992, and by the Mayor on 3/11/92. MarcIe Peach)
Bob DIllon - expressed dIsappoIntment In the dIrectIon thIs Issue Is
goIng. He felt I t Is an InjustIce for eIther the membershIp not to
vote on the Issues or when their opInIons are superceded. He felt If
the Issue Is taken back to the Department for the membershIp to vote
on each Issue as I t comes up, they wI II make IntellIgent decIsIons and
all these Issues wIll go away. Mayor Orttel dIdn't dIsagree.
MedIatIon came up as a peace offerIng, though he had heard from many
that It Is a personalIty dIfference that spawned all thIs, even though
there Is some element of fact In them. He dIdn't thInk thIs has
anything to do wIth the membershIp. MedIators don't make decIsIons;
but hopefullY I t wI I I help In dealIng wIth future problems.
Mr. DII Ion - was thoroughly convInced that If the FIre Department
voted on these Issues that were raIsed, IntellIgent decIsIons wIll be
made. Mayor Orttel stated that can be done, but he wouldn't recommend
It. He felt the matter ought to be put to rest, and from now on Mr.
Schrantz wIll be In charge IndIrectly and can make guIdelInes. In the
future, he had no problem wIth brIngIng the Issues to the Department
as they occur. That Is up to the Department.
Debate contInued wIth Mr. DIllon as to the functIons of the FIre
Department, wIth the CouncIl's posItIon beIng that the polley stIlI Is
the vote of the FIrefIghters wIll be the rulIng authorIty In the FIre
Department.
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Regular CIty CouncIl MeetIng
MInutes - March 2, 1992
Page 10
ANDOVER EXPRESS DELIVERY
Mayor Orttel noted that In the future the Clerk wIll mall copies of
the Andover Express to those Andover resIdents requestIng It whose
mal I boxes are located In Ham Lake or Oak Grove.
NON-DISCUSSION ITEMS
MOTION by SmIth, Seconded by Jacobson, to approve the fol lowIng
Items:
Item 10, ProbatIonary Increase/Public Works Employee
Item 11, Salary Adjustments/PublIc Works SupervIsors
Item 13, ResolutIon R026-92 - Accept Petltlon/92-4/Wlnslow HIlls
2nd AddItIon
Item 14, ResolutIon R027-92 - AppoInt ElectIon Judges/PresIdentIal
PrImary
Item 16, ReceIve January FInancIal Statements
MotIon carrIed on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Perry) vote.
APPROVE GAMLBING PERMIT/ANDOVER ALANO SOCIETY
MOTION by McKelvey, Seconded SmIth, approve ApplIcatIon for
ExemptIon from Lawful GamblIng License for the Andover Alano Society
for fIve events durIng 1992. MotIon carrIed on a 3-Yes (McKelvey,
Orttel, SmIth), I-No (Jacobson), 1-Absent (Perry) vote.
ACKNOWLEDGE POLICY/BAD CHECK FEES
Mr. Koollck gave the background InformatIon regardIng the proposal to
adhere to the strIct ImplementatIon of the fee for bad checks because
the local bank Is now chargIng for all returned checks. Because of
the costs to process the the check, wrIte the letter, and contact the
IndIvIdual, they are proposIng at the tIme the check Is returned from
the bank that the $20 fee wIll charged.
The Counc I I dIscussed varIous optIons to resolvIng the problem, one
beIng to put the bank fees onto the next bIll. Attorney HawkIns
stated he would have to look up whether a penalty fee on a utIlIty
bl II can be assessed, though he tended to thInk It could be If It Is a
charge dIrectly related to the servIce.
After further dIscussIon It was agreed that a lIne be put on the
utilIty bIlls for "Return Check Fee". If a check is returned once,
the check fee wIll be $5, which Includes the bank's cost plus CIty
Staff costs. If a check Is returned a second tIme, the check fee wIll
be $20 because of two bank fees and a letter wrItten by Staff.
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Regular CIty CouncIl MeetIng
MInutes - March 2, 1992
Page 11
(Acknowledge Polley/Bad Check Fees, ContInued)
In cases where bad checks are wrItten for other than utIlIty bIllIngs,
Attorney HawkIns explaIned the Statute allows the cIty to recover the
costs. A letter Is sent to the IndIvIdual. If the check Is not made
good, he can prosecute for the amount of the check. If the check
clears the second tIme, the CIty holds It for the IndIvIdual untJ 1 he
pays the returned check fee. Mr. Koollck stated they wIll then
contInue to do what they have done, tellIng the people they need cash
or a certIfIed check. Mayor Ortte I stated the leverage for the
BuIldIng Department Is to stop constructIon.
Mr. Koollck stated he wll I have an amended ResolutIon for Bad Check
Fees for CouncIl actIon at the next meetIng.
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by SmIth, approval of Schedule of BIlls
In the amount of $45,022.83. MotIon carrIed unanImously.
MOTION by SmIth to adjourn. Mayor Orttel declared the meetIng
adjourned at 10:12 p.m.
Respectfully submItted,
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Marcella A. Peach
RecordIng Secretary
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