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~ CITY of ANDOVER
Regular City Council Meeting - February 4, 1992
7:30 P.M. Call to Order
Resident Forum
Agenda Approval
Approval of Minutes
Discussion Items
1. Public Hearing/Meadow Creek Est. street Lights
2 . Approve Rezoning/Weybridge
3 . Approve Preliminary Plat/weybridge
4 . Reconstruction of Round Lake Blvd. & Bunker Lake
Blvd.
5. Ordinance 10 Amendments
6. Request Ext. of CAB from MWCC
Staff, Committee, Commission
7. Hire Public Works Employee
8. Award Bid/Lindgren Property
9. Approve Fire Department Election Results
Non-Discussion Items
10. Approve Bids/91-25/Hidden Creek East 4th
11. Approve Final Plat/Hidden Creek East 4th
12. Release Escrows/Creek View Crossing
13. Release Escrows/Kensington Est. 1- 6
14. Order street Light/152nd & 7th Avenue
15. Receive Feasibility Report/Weybridge
16. Approve MSA Designation
Approval of Claims
Adjournment
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REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - FEBRUARY 4, 1992
TABLE OF CONTENTS
RESIDENT FORUM . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
AGENDA APPROVAL · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
APPROVAL OF MINUTES · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
PUBLIC HEARING/MEADOW CREEK ESTATES STREET LIGHTS
ResolutIon R013-92 approving project · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
APPROVE REZONING/wEYBRIDGE
ResolutIon R014-92 approvIng rezonIng. · · · · · · · · · · · · 3
APPROVE PRELIMINARY PLAT/WEYBRIDGE . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 4
ResolutIon R015-92 approvIng prelImInary plat · · · · · · · · · 6
RECONSTRUCTION OF ROUND LAKE AND BUNKER LAKE BOULEVARDS · · · · · 6
NON-DISCUSSION ITEMS
OrdInance 10 amendments . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 9
ResolutIon R016-92 approve blds/91-25/Hldden Creek 4th · · · · 9
ResolutIon R017-92 approve fInal plat/HIdden Creek 4th · · · · 9
Release escrow/Creek VIew CrossIng · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 9
Release escrow/KensIngton Estates 1-6 . · · · · · · · · · · · · 9
Order street Ilght/152nd and Seventh Avenue. · · · · · · · · · 9
ResolutIon R018-92 receIve feaslblllty/Weybrldge · · · · · · · 9
ResolutIon R019-92 approve MSA desIgnatIon · · · · · · · · · · 9
Table FIre Department electIon results · · · · · · · · · · · · 9
REQUEST EXTENSION OF CAB FROM MWCC
ResolutIon R020-92 requestIng extensIon · · · · · · · · · · · · 10
HIRE PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEE . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 10
AWARD BID/LINDGREN PROPERTY (reject offer) · · · · · · · · · · · · 11
TRANSPORTATION SECTION OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN . · · · · · · · · · · 11
MotIon to authorIze TKDA to complete the sectIon · · · · · · · 11
STORM DRAINAGE - PINEWOOD ESTATES · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 11
EMPLOYEE FOR BUILDING DEPARTMENT . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 12
COON CREEK DITCH CLEANING · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 12
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 13
MAYOR AND COUNCIL INPUT · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 13
ADJOURNMENT . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 13
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CA. CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - FEBRUARY 4, 1992
MINUTES
The Regular BI-MonthlY MeetIng of the Andover CIty CouncIl was called
to order by Mayor Ken Orttel on February 4, 1992, 7:30 p.m., at at the
Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover. MInnesota.
Councilmembers present: Jacobson, McKelvey, Perry, Smith
Councllmembers absent: None
Also present: CIty Attorney, WIllIam G. HawkIns
TKDA EngIneer, John DavIdson
PublIc Works SuperIntendent, Frank Stone
CIty FInance DIrector, Howard Koollck
AssIstant CIty EngIneer, Todd Haas
CIty Planner, DavId Carlberg
CIty AdmInIstrator, James Schrantz
Others
RESIDENT FORUM
Carrol I Abbott. 2917 142nd Lane - stated evIdently Councilmember
McKelvey dId talk to the CommunIty School CoordInator about the Key
CommunIcator Program as he asked about last tIme he was before the
Councl I. Mr. Abbott stated there Is a problem wIth not sandIng where
It Is needed on the roads In Northwoods and Green Acres. Mr. Stone
explaIned the procedure for sandIng and asked that PublIc Works be
contacted whenever a resIdent has a concern or a complaInt.
Steve McKlnlev. 3701 153rd Lane. SenIor Pastor. Grace Lutheran
Church - reserved the rIght to speak on the reconstructIon of Round
Lake and Bunker Lake Boulevards.
AGENDA APPROVAL
It was agreed to add Items 9a, TransportatIon SectIon of the
ComprehensIve Plan; 9b. Employee for BuIldIng Department; and 9c,
Coon Creek DItch CleanIng.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by McKelvey, to approve the Agenda as
amended. MotIon carrIed unanImously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
January 21, 1992: Correct as written.
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by SmIth, the MInutes of January 21 as
wrItten. MotIon carrIed unanImously.
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Regular City CouncIl Meeting
MInutes - February 4, 1992
Page 2
PUBLIC HEARING/MEADOW CREEK ESTATES STREET LIGHTS
7:36 p.m. Mayor Orttel noted the petItIon receIved from the
neIghborhood. Of the 88 lots affected, 58 were In favor, 13 were
opposed and 22 dId not comment. Mr. Haas then revIewed costs and
locations of lIghts. The yearly cost per lot wIll be $37.08 for the
fIrst fIve years for 14 lIghts In the subdIvIsIon. After five years,
the $6.57 installatIon cost wIll drop off.
The hearIng was then opened for publIc testImony.
Phi I Frederickson, 13641 Heather - stated the yard Is already broke
up wIth underground cable, electricity, and phone. He stated It Is a
poorly lIt corner and preferred to have the lIght on the north sIde
of hIs lot, not the south sIde. Mr. Haas explaIned the reason for
the proposed location Is because It Is close to the electrIcal boxes.
To move It to the north sIde would require going under hIs driveway,
whIch mIght cause a collapse.
Mr. FrederIckson - was not concerned about the driveway because of
the other underground utIlitIes. At the locatIon shown, It Is no
benefIt to anyone because the only drIveway around Is his. At the
north end of the lot the lIght wIll be closer to the IntersectIon.
Staff agreed to look at moving the lIght to the north end of Mr.
FrederIckson's lot.
Ms. Larson. 13527 Heather - Is In favor of the lIght, but Is
concerned about the payment method. Should It become CIty polley that
lIghts In other areas are paId for by the CIty, she dIdn't want to
contInue payIng for theIr lIghts. She asked If they are already
payIng for someone else's lIghts. Mayor Orttel explaIned It has been
CIty polIcy that all benefIts be paId for In the same way. He dIdn't
thInk the CIty would ever change the policy; but If It did, It would
be applIed uniformly to all neIghborhoods. They are not payIng for
any other neIghborhood's lIghts. The only lIghts paId for out of the
general fund are those on county roads that light major IntersectIons.
Mayor Orttel read a letter Into the record from Gordon GwInn, 13365
Heather, opposIng the project. There beIng no further testImony, the
Mayor then asked for a motIon to close the hearIng.
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by McKelvey, to so move. Motion carried
unanImously.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by SmIth, the ResolutIon orderIng the
Improvement of street lighting, Project No. 91-26, in Meadow Creek
Estates, InsertIng In the resolutIon that the majorIty of the people
In the area requested It. (See ResolutIon R013-92) DISCUSSION:
Counc I I also noted It Is approved wIth the understandIng that the
Staff wI I I talk wIth Anoka ElectrIc about movIng the lIght to the
north sIde of Mr. FrederIckson's property. MotIon carrIed
unanImously. 7:48 p.m.
Regular CIty CouncIl Meeting
MInutes - February 4, 1992
Page 3
APPROVE REZONING/WEYBRIDGE
Mr. Carlberg revIewed the request and PlannIng CommIssIon's
recommendatIon to approve the rezonIng of property south of Andover
Boulevard and west of the railroad tracks from R-l to R-4, SIngle
FamIly Urban zone. The developer Is concerned wIth the sunset clause
noted In the ResolutIon before the CouncIl and that the rezonIng would
be null and voId If the ComprehensIve Plan Is not approved. He
thought It takes Counc II actIon to determIne a rezonIng null and voId,
suggestIng the sunset clause be removed as a condItIon of the
rezonIng.
It was the Attorney's opInIon that the sunset clause for a rezonIng Is
not valId. In further dIscussIon, Counc I I agreed a sunset clause Is
not approprIate for a rezonIng. Mr. Carlberg also argued that It does
not have to be subject to MetropolItan CouncIl approva I , as the Met
Counc I I does not control rezonlngs, and the CIty's ordInances regulate
that R-4 zones cannot be developed as urban lots until the MWCC a I lows
sewer expansIon to It.
Jerry Wlndschltl. Ashford Development CorporatIon - stated the CIty
has had a number of R-4 zones that cannot be developed untIl sewer Is
avaIlable and all other regulatIons are compIled wIth. He didn't
thInk there would be any harm to the CIty to rezone the property
wi thout the condItIons because all other sectIons of the ordInances
prevai I If there Isn't CIty sewer on the site. They are the owners of
the property, a I though there Is a mortgage to fInance It.
Mayor Orttel read a letter Into the record from Kathren Jonak, 710
146th Lane NW, that was delIvered to hIs home thIs evenIng. She
raIsed several concerns over the development on Andover Boulevard,
that all people along Andover Boulevard should have been notIfIed,
that Andover Boulevard Is the only exIt for that development, that It
is resIdentIal and shouldn't have this amount of traffIc, that there
should be a transItIon zone between the urban and rural areas, and
that the development affects the school dIstrIct.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, a ResolutIon grantIng the
rezonIng request of Ashford Development CorporatIon, Inc., to rezone
property known as Weybrldge as presented wIth the followIng change:
Under the last Now, Therefore, Be It Resol ved, the second to the last
lIne to read: ...property from R-l, SIngle FamIly Rural to R-4, Single
Faml I y Urban. PerIod. Delete the rest of the sentence and subdIvIsIon
1 and sentence following. PIckIng up agaIn wIth "Adopted by the CIty
Counc II . . . " (See ResolutIon ROI4-92) DISCUSSION: Councllmember
Jacobson noted the developer has acknowledged he understands that If
the Met Counc I I does not agree to Include thIs Into the Urban Service
Area, that even wIth the R-4 rezonIng, there are restrictIons on the
buIldIng whIch may limIt hIs abilIty to do thIngs wIth the plat.
MotIon carrIed unanImously.
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Regular CIty Council MeetIng
Minutes - February 4, 1992
Page 4
APPROVE PRELIMINARY PLAT/wEYBRIDGE
Mr. Haas revIewed the comments of the Andover RevIew CommIttee lIsted
In the CouncIl Agenda on the proposed Weybrldge plat, whIch consIsts
of 148 sIngle famIly urban lots. The Park CommIssIon also has some
concern wIth the park dedIcatIon because of the origInal agreement
wIth the Gaughan Company and the phasing of the development.
Jerrv Windschltl. develocer - thought the Issue on Lot 1, Block 4
was resolved. It Is not a corner lot because he does not own any
property on Xeon Street, and he has furnished the CIty wIth a
certIfIcate from a regIstered land survey which verIfies that. He does
not own the remenant parcel and doesn't know what he can do about It.
The survey also shows there Is 90 feet at the setback and the lot
meets all the area requIrements and setbacks Just as If It were a
corner lot. If the remenants goes tax forfeIt In the future, the
Counc I I could give them to the property owners. The southern remenant
Is a buildable parcel.
After some dIscussIon, the Counc I I agreed that Lot 1, Block 4 should
remaIn as Is, although every effort should be made to help Mr.
Wlndschl tl acquIre the remanent parcels.
Mr. WIndschltl - addressed the lot wIdths on the IntersectIon of
144th Lane and WIntergreen Street. He has the same setbacks as on a
90-degree corner. He took out the bubble and feels he does meet the
setbacks. Mr. Schrantz stated Staff Is asking to remove the extra
rIght of way and make a rounded turn. That affects the setbacks on
the lots. To resolve the problem, the houses wI II be located In the
same spots but It would be set back further on the lots themselves to
meet the wIdth requIrements. Counc I I felt that Is a minor Issue,
though It asked that the radIus be shown on the roadway.
Mr. Windschltl - asked hIs oblIgatIon for park dedIcatIon. He
bought the parcel wIthout any pre-exIstIng conditions attached to It.
He Intends to gIve the full amount owed, but apparently at least one
on the the Park CommIssIons feels It I s not enough.
Jeff KIeffer. Park and RecreatIon CommIssIon Chalrcerson - was
concerned about the process when a CIty makes an agreement for park
dedIcatIon on an entIre parcel, but then the parcel Is developed In
phases and/or sold to other developers. Mr. Haas stated a formula for
park dedIcatIon was used based on what was done for the HIlls of
Bunker Lake because there Is so much low area. That formula does not
fIt with thIs subdIvIsion, and they cannot plug In the numbers to see
If It meets the 10 percent park dedication requIrements because that
was a neogltated park dedicatIon for Old Colony Estates. The park
dedIcation has been taken a lIttle at a tIme based on the Commlsslon/s
motIon. The CommIssIon thInks It has 20 acres due plus $5,000 In
cash.
Regular City Council Meeting
MInutes - February 4, 1992
Page 5
(Approve PrelIminary Plat/Weybrldge, Continued)
Mr. Wlndschltl - stated the total for Old Colony Estates was 20
acres. At the last park meetIng, It appeared the difference Is about
1/4 acres. It Is not a vast amount of land; and he felt In the end
the CIty may end up wIth more dollars than the orIgInal agreement.
After that agreement had been made, In one of the subsequent plats the
agreement was modIfied dealing with the tot lot.
Mayor Orttel stated It Is becoming common that plats are parceled out
and sold. He felt the CIty Is goIng to have to make sure that for
every plat, the City take whatever It expects to get at that tIme.
Mr. Wlndschltl - suggested that when a fInal plat comes In, the City
have an accounting of what Is owed on that parcel. Mayor Orttel
stated another optIon Is have the developer sIgn a contract In the
begInnIng. When the property Is sold. some share of that contract Is
sold wIth the property. Any change by the Park Board would mean an
amendment to the agreement. Attorney HawkIns stated a common practIce
Is to have a separate park dedIcation agreement that Is actually
recorded; so when the property Is purchased, they know the obligatIons
for that property regardIng park dedication.
The Mayor suggested the Attorney consider that In the future as part
of the development agreement. Counc I I took no further actIon on the
park dedIcation for Weybrldge.
DIscussIon was on BJock 7, Lots 30 and 31, the concern beIng on the
abilIty to have adequate bulJdlng pads. Mr. Haas stated Lot 31 shows
a detaIled plan on how It should be built. Lot 30 Is fIne. Mr.
Wlndschltl stated hIs engIneer has a desIgn for Lot 31.
Mr. Haas also stated the 20-foot access to the park Is acceptable to
everyone. Councllmember Jacobson was concerned about what J ooks lIke
an eIght-foot drop along the back yards from WIntergreen to Vale. He
did not wish to create a sItuation slmlllar to another development
where there were problems wIth water. Mr. Wlndschltl stated It Is
desIgned not to have standIng water. The dIfference between this pJat
and the one the CIty had trouble with Is they have allowed a ful I
depth Jot before getting to the pond. People will be buyIng a fulJ
depth lot wIthout easements. Mr. Davidson stated It Is designed to
hold the 100-year event, but It wi I J discharge.
Councllmember Jacobson asked about the the Jegend, whIch says the
lowest floor does not necessarily mean the lowest walkout elevation.
Mr. Wlndschltl stated In some cases what Is being shown as the lowest
floor, the engIneering would allow for a floor that would be lower.
He understands It has somethIng to do with submittIng plans to the FHA
where the engineering wouJd allow for a Jower floor. Mr. Schrantz
dIdn't think It Is a problem.
Regular CIty CouncIl MeetIng
MInutes - February 4, 1992
Page 6
(Approve PrelImInary PI at/Weybr I dge , ContInued)
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by SmIth, the ResolutIon approving the
prelImInary plat of Weybrldge as beIng developed by Ashford
Development CorporatIon, Inc., as presented with the addItIon,
attached to the prelImInary plat should be the englneeerlng schematIc
for Lot 31, Block 7 and to strike Item 4. (See ResolutIon R015-92)
MotIon carrIed unanImously.
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by McKelvey, that Staff be dIrected to
work wIth the owners of the property IdentIfIed as Lot 1, Block 4 to
resolve the outlot problems, and If possIble combIne those existIng
out lots wIth the proposed Weybrldge development. MotIon carrIed
unanImously.
RECONSTRUCTION OF ROUND LAKE BOULEVARD AND BUNKER LAKE BOULEVARD
Mayor Orttel acknowledged the presence of County CommIssIoner Dennis
Berg. Douglas FIscher of the Anoka County Highway Department revIewed
the proposed reconstructIon of Round Lake and Bunker Lake Boulevards
and the changes made sInce the last meetIng wIth the affected property
owners and answered questIons of several resIdents In the audIence.
He noted that all sIgnals will be fully functIonal for pedestrIans
whether sidewalks are In or not. The sIdewalk Issue Is the CIty's
responslbl I I ty, and that easement wIll be outsIde of the county's
right of way. Several houses In Andover along Round Lake Boulevard
wIll be purchased by the county for rIght of way; and If the City
chooses to acquIre easement for sIdewalks, they w I I I help wI th the
negotIatIons as they acquIre theIr right of way.
The Counc I I revIewed the Items raIsed by the county.
Traffic lIght on 136th Avenue - Mr. Fischer explaIned the CIty of
Anoka Is requestIng a traffIc sIgnal at the IntersectIon of 136th
Avenue and Round Lake Boulevard to facIlItate the traffIc through
their shoppIng center. The CIty's share would be approxImately
$30,000. The current temporary sIgnal at 135th/Roosevelt and Round
Lake Boulevard wIll become a permanent one. After some dIscussIon,
the Counc I I generally dId not feel It Is Andover's responsibIlIty to
share In the cost of a sIgnal at 136th. They also dId not feel It Is
prudent or necessary to have a signal every block or two wIthIn that
sIx-block area. The lIght Is not In any of Andover's plans, and It
was felt I twIll only add to the congestIon. Counc II agreed to the
permanent sIgnal at 135th/Roosevelt and Round Lake Boulevard.
Cost to the CIty - NeIther Staff or Mr. FIscher had an estImated cost
of the City's share of the project, though wIth sidewalks It was
speculated to be In the hundreds of thousands of dollars. The Counc I I
noted the letter sent to the county In January requestIng they pay
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Regular City Council Meeting
MInutes - February 4, 1992
Page 7
(ReconstructIon of Round Lake and Bunker Lake Boulevards, ContInued)
more than $1 million owed the City for other projects. Counc I I had a
problem spendIng money for another county project when the CIty hasn't
been reImbursed for prevIous projects. CommIssIoner Berg stated he
Just got the letter yesterday and wIll be lookIng Into the matter
further.
DIscussIon noted the City Is also expected to pay fOr 50 percent of
the outsIde curb plus sIdewalks. Mr. Haas stated the sIdewalks and
the curb will be reImbursable from State Aid funds except for a small
portIon west on Bunker Lake Boulevard whIch Is not State Ald.
Mayor Ortte I also questIoned the need for storm water draInage. There
wIll be no addItIonal development, so how would storm water benefIt
more than the street. He asked that the HIghway Department address
that Issue wIth the CIty at a later date.
Frontage road/138th Lane - Mr. FIscher stated theIr proposal was to
cut off access to Round Lake Boulevard from the frontage road and
138th Lane. They wI I I defInitely be cuttIng off the most southerly
entrance. If there Is an openIng from the frontage road, wIth the
proposed expansIon of FestIval Foods and realIgnIng the entrance Into
the shoppIng center, they would prefer that the entrance lIne up
opposIng 138th Lane. Also for CouncIl's consIderatIon Is a traffIc
sIgnal at that intersection.
Mayor Orttel though t that part of the agreement wIth the Downtown
Center when they buIlt was they would pay for a street light. He
dIdn't know If the shoppIng center could be assessed for a portIon of
a lIght at 138th or not. After further dIscussIon, the Counc I I
preferred 138th Lane to remaIn wIth turnIng movements to Round Lake
Boulevard wIth a sIgnal.
SIdewalks - Staff suggested the decisIon on whether or not the CI ty
will put in sidewalks should be decIded now. The Counc II stated the
problem Is the cost and how It wIll be funded because the CIty doesn't
get enough State AId funds to pay for all of It. There was also
concern about encouragIng pedestrIan traffic to the shoppIng center
because of the the dangerous sItuatIon along Bunker Lake Boulevard.
Counc i I asked that Staff prepare cost figures for sIdewalks for
further Counc II consIderation. Mr. Fischer stated they are In the
process of negotiatIng for rIght of way. Only sIx addItIonal feet
wI II be needed for sidewalks. Plus the county would have to grade for
sIdewalks wherever the City wants It. They wI I I know how much Is left
after they determIne which houses they wIll take.
Access from Bunker Lake Boulevard to 136th Lane - Mr. Fischer
explained a proposal to construct a road between Bunker Lake Boulevard
and 136th along the east sIde of the professIonal buIldIng. They wI II
Regular CIty CouncIl MeetIng
Minutes - February 4, 1992
Page 8
(ReconstructIon of Round Lake and Bunker Lake Boulevards, ContInued)
Install the underground electrIcal for a future street lIght at that
IntersectIon. They want to pull the frontage road away from Bunker
Lake Boulevard to square UP the IntersectIon. The constructIon of that
road, whIch Is about 200 feet, would be the CIty's expense.
Counc II dIscussion noted there Is a problem fundIng the constructIon
of the proposed street, though they recognIzed the access problem to
Chapman's AddItIon and Grace Lutheran Church wIthout It.
Pastor Steve McKInlev. Grace Lutheran Church - stated they have no
plans to relocate. The church has doubled Its membershIp In the past
ten years, now servIng over 2400 members, 1500 of whIch are Andover
resIdents. An addItion was buIlt In about 1980 and they are In the
process of buIldIng another one rIght now. If the road by the
professIonal buildIng Is not constructed, It wI II have a dlsasterous
effect on the church. People comIng from the east have no way to
turn Into the parkIng lot, and those who come from the west have no
way to get back out agaIn.
Mr. McKlnely also explaIned the success of theIr theIr capItal funds
campaIgn to expand theIr buIldIng, then fIndIng that more than a thIrd
of the money has to go for the sprInkler system, gettIng water to the
buIlding, to brIng the parkIng lot up to code, plus the possIbIlIty of
addItIonal watermaln extensIon costs. They wIll do those thIngs:
however, they do need the access road because wIthout It, It wI II do
serIous harm to a church that trIes to be a good cItIzen to the
communIty. Mr. DavIdson stated the CIty's polley on waterlIne
extensIon Is to assess only the frontage of the lot, not both sides.
Counc I I had no problem wIth the county's confIguratIon In front of the
auto parts store and professIonal buIldIng and wIll look at the
connectIon to 136th In the future.
UtIlitIes - Mr. FIscher stated the runnIng of water lInes wI II be a
separate desIgn and part of their construction plans. They can be
added at a later tIme. Counc I I agreed the utIlItIes for the area wIll
be consIdered In the near future, askIng Staff to make a
recommendation.
FInances - The CouncIl noted the questIons of total dollar commItment
for the City In thIs project, the cost of the road between 136th Lane
and Bunker Lake Boulevard, the cost of sIdewalk and easement
acquIsItIon, and the cost of the CIty's share for curbIng. They also
asked for a specIfIc tIme table as to when the county wIll reImburse
the CIty to elImInate the problems prevIously encountered.
Mr. Fischer Informed the resIdents the plan Is to do the
reconstructIon thIs year. They wI II maIntain traffIc through the area
durIng the entIre constructIon for local traffIc.
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Regular CIty CouncIl MeetIng
Minutes - February 4, 1992
Page 9
NON-DISCUSSION ITEMS
MOTION by Jacobson. Seconded by SmIth, to move In the affIrmatIve on
the followIng Agenda Items:
Item 5 - OrdInance 10 Amendments
Item 10 - Approve Blds/91-25/Hldden Creek East 4th
(See ResolutIon ROI6-92)
Item 11 - Approve FInal plat/HIdden Creek East 4th
(See ResolutIon ROI7-92)
Item 12 - Release Escrows/Creek VIew CrossIng ($11,800)
Item 13 - Release Escrows/Kensington Estates 1-6 ($2,581.17)
Item 14 - Order Street Llght/152nd and Seventh Avenue
Item 15 - ReceIve FeasIbIlIty Report/Weybrldge
(See ResolutIon R018-92)
Item 16 - Approve MSA DesIgnatIon
(See ResolutIon R019-92)
Item 9 - Fire Department ElectIon Results: Move to hold It to the
next regularly scheduled meetIng.
MotIon carrIed unanImously.
DISCUSSION: Councllmember Jacobson stated for Item 15. If the
MetropolItan CouncIl does not agree, he assumes the money expended Is
st I II owed the CIty by the developer. Mayor Orttel agreed.
Fire ChIef Glenn SmIth - understood why the CouncIl postponed the
appoIntments because of the meetIng scheduled by the Safety CommIttee
on Thursday nIght. There has been a lot of stuff comIng hIs way for
the last year. not allowIng hImself to resort to these tactIcs. The
Issues beIng raIsed by the Safety CommIttee are dead Issues as far as
the majority of the Department Is consIdered. He asked what the
CouncIl wants the Department to do for offIcers. Counc I I stated the
present offIcers wIll remaIn In offIce until actIon Is taken.
TypIcally the old secretary would contInue. If he doesn't wIsh to,
the ChIef has the authorIty to desIgnate someone else In the InterIm.
Ken Anderson. Flreflchter - on the FIre Department for two years.
They are volunteer to help people In the CIty. There are people In
the Department who want to turn thIs Into a full tIme Department, and
they are gettIng fed up wIth the polItIcs. He dIdn't thInk the CIty
needs a full-tIme chIef or FIre Department, statIng the FIre
Department functIons very well. He thought Glenn SmIth and Dale
Mashuga do one fIne Job.
Councilmember Jacobson explaIned some Items have been brought to the
attention of the CouncIl that they as Councllmembers would be remIss
not to Investigate further. The meetIng on Thursday evenIng Is a
publ Ie meetIng. Councllmember McKelvey stated he has talked to people
on both sIdes, he's supported the Department on most occasIons, and he
feels it Is necessary for this to be postponed to address the
al legations.
Regular CIty Council MeetIng
MInutes - February 4, 1992
Page 10
(Non-DiscussIon Items, Continued)
Jerrv Windschltl - stated the questIon on Item 15, FeasIbility
Report/Weybridge Is that of assessing for trunk watermalns. He stated
it appears that the policy is beIng changed. In the past when the
trunk was run down a county road with no service, there was no
assessment. The assessment was only where direct servIce was taken
from It. The proposal In Weybrldge Is for hIm to be assessed for a
trunk lIne going down Andover Boulevard where he has no servIces on
It. He asked for Staff and CouncIl to take a fIrm posItIon so
everyone knows how watermalns are assessed.
Mr. Schrantz stated the developer wIll be assessed for sIde lot
benefit, which is one-half of the eIght-Inch line, on the side lots
adjacent to the streets. Mr. DavIdson stated each case is a little
unIque, explaInIng the lateral benefIt beIng assessed. Counc i I stated
a specIfic polIcy should be stated In the Assessment Manual.
Counc i I recessed at 10:00: reconvened at 10:12 p.m.
REQUEST EXTENSION OF CAB FROM MWCC
MOTION by Smi th, Seconded by McKelvey, the Reoslution requestIng the
MetropolItan Waste Control CO!lUTlisslon to extend the CAB Interceptor to
the CIty of Andover. (See Resolution R020-92) Motion carrIed
unanImously.
HIRE PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEE
Mr. Stone asked for authorIzatIon to hIre one of theIr top two
candIdates for PublIc Works employee. If the first one does not
accept, he wIshes to ask the second choIce. The proposed salarIes
comply wIth the unIon contract.
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by McKelvey, that we f I II the vacant
PublIc Works posItIon by movIng LuAnn Darveaux to fIll the vacancy In
the Streets DIvIsIon at an hourly rate of $11 per hour for the
remainder of the year 1992: and that we hIre one of our two top
candIdates at a starting salary of $9.60 per hour and provIde for a
$0.40 per hour Increase after satIsfactory completIon of the sIx-month
probatIonary perIod. DISCUSSION: Counc I I raised the concern of
moving an employee toward the top of the salary scale. Mr. Stone
poInted out Ms. Darveaux w I I I be spendIng about 80 percent of her tIme
grading. MotIon carried unanImously.
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MInutes - February 4, 1992
Page 11
AWARD BID/LINDGREN PROPERTY
Atto.ney HawkIns stated the appraIsal fo. the property was
sIgnIfIcantly hlghe. than the bid receIved fo. the prope.ty, the bId
beIng almost half of the appraIsal. Dave Almg.en, BuIlding OffIcIal,
stated it is a buIldable lot.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by SmIth, to .eJect the offer.
DISCUSSION: Counc I I ag.eed the lot should be advertised fo. sale
agaIn. MotIon car.led unanimously.
TRANSPORTATION SECTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
Mr. Carlberg explaIned the Met.opolltan CouncIl Staff has rejected the
TransportatIon Chapter of the CIty's Comp.ehenslve Plan, suggestIng
the CIty .un Anoka County's 2010 program usIng Its p.oJected
populatIon fIgures. He argued the 2010 plan has been app.oved by Met
CouncIl wIth theI. populatIon fIgures, though the populatIon Is
actually hIgher. BRW, who dId the Anoka County 2010 plan. stated It
wIll take 45 days to do at a cost of $7,500 to $10,000. He told Met
Counc I I that the CIty does not have the money and the tIme frame wIll
not work. He has talked wIth TKDA about doIng some computatIons to
revIse the T.ansportatlon Chapter and meet agaIn wIth the Met CouncIl.
Mr. Ca.lbe.g asked for CIty CouncIl app.oval to that study wIth TKDA.
It wI I I be about a 40-hour p.oJect, though It wIll be at an additIonal
cost. The.e may be monies f.om the 1992 CDBG contingency or other
funds In NeIghborhood RevItalIzatIon. M.. Davidson estImated It would
cost $2,500 If It takes 40 hours. Thel. approach would be they meet
agaIn wIth the t.ansportatlon staff pe.son at the Met CouncIl. The
p.oJect wIll be done In as few hours as possIble.
Mayo. Orttel asked for a motIon to autho.lze TKDA to complete the
TransportatIon Chapte. at a cost not to exceed $2,500.
MOTION by McKelvey, Seconded by SmIth, to so move. MotIon carrIed
unanImously.
STORM DRAINAGE - PINEWOOD ESTATES
Mr. DavIdson stated they studied the d.alnage of the p.oposed Plnewood
Estates plat to dete.mlne whethe. the developer would have to provIde
addItIonal sto.age within the plat Itself. He revIewed the study,
whIch found that the wetland at the Inte.sectlon of Andover and Hanson
Boulevards would assImilate all of the d.alnage f.om that p.oposed
plat. The p.oblem Is the northeast co.ne. of that IntersectIon Is
CIty pa.k, and the northwest corne. Is p.lvatelY owned. The questIon
Is whether the developer Is goIng to be responsIble to acquire the
land or Is the CIty goIng to develop It as a wetland by obtainIng the
perml ts, then area assessIng the costs.
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MInutes - February 4, 1992
Page 12
(Storm DraInage - Plnewood Estates, ContInued)
Mr. DavIdson stated they are suggesting a second outlet for the
100-year event. It should be control led by culvert sInce It Is on
prIvate property. The alternate would be the developer would have to
create ponds on hIs own property, showIng that I t wI I I not impact any
prIvate property.
Mayor Orttel felt It would be cheaper for the developer to acquIre the
property than for the CIty to do so. If the CIty does have to acquIre
land, he questIoned If It wouldn't be cheaper to pIpe all of It. He
was agreeable to the CIty gIvIng easement to use the CIty property,
but he preferred the developer acquIre whatever property Is needed for
draInage rather than the CIty. He dIdn't have a problem obtaInIng
permits, etc., and chargIng the costs back to the developer.
Chuck Cook. developer of PInewood Estates - understood the property
Just changed hands. He wI II approach the owner on the northwest
corner. No CouncIl actIon was taken.
EMPLOYEE FOR BUILDING DEPARTMENT
Dave Almgren, BuIldIng Official, stated there Is a run on buildIng
perml ts, there beIng 31 In January. In 1987, the largest builldng
year, they had 17 for the month of January. If this Is an IndIcatIon,
It wI I I be a good buIldIng year. He Is requestIng the abIlIty to hire
a contract person when the need arIses to keep up wIth the work. One
Inspector can take care of about 150 houses. Mr. Koollck explaIned
addl tional cost wI I I be offset wIth Increased revenue from addItIonal
housIng permIts.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by SmIth, that we authorIze the Andover
BuIlding Department to hIre a contract Inspector at a cost not to
exceed $12 per hour plus mIleage for a 40-hour week. My understandIng
Is thIs Is an Independent contract: no other benefIts or CIty
lIabilIty is Involved; and that the funds to pay for thIs extra
Inspector wI II come from buIldIng permit fees. DISCUSSION: Counc I I
asked that It be determIned whether the posItIon qualIfies for
contract help. MotIon carrIed unanImously.
COON CREEK DITCH CLEANING
Mayor Orttel reported the resIdents In the southern portIon of the
CIty receIved notIces from the Coon Creek Watershed that there Is a
cleanup In process beIng done by the CIty of Andover PublIc Works
crew. A lot of I twIll actually be done by private owners along the
dItch, and the CIty wIll do whatever they can. Mr. Stone stated he
put In a large bId on the Job, and the Watershed has no problem payIng
the CIty back. They wI II start sometime after thIs meetIng begInning
at 133rd Avenue and work northward.
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Minutes - February 4, 1992
Page 13
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, approval of Claims as
presented ($94,782.14) wIth one exception: remove the bl II from EPA
AudIo VIsual, Inc. , to the FIre Department for a 70x70" screen In the
amount of $1169.30. DISCUSSION: Councllmember Jacobson understood
the approved budget for a screen Is $250, and thIs Is fIve tImes as
much. He felt that Is totally out of lIne. MotIon carrIed
unanImously.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL INPUT
Mayor Orttel asked Mr. Koollck about hIs letter to Anoka County
regardIng the amount owed the CIty for the street project of Crosstown
Boulevard south of 140th Avenue. He asked about the project north of
140th to Coon Creek. Mr. Koollck stated the numbers he used were from
letters sent to the county In 1990.
There was some confusIon as to whether the county was going to pay for
some of the project north of 140th, whether I t was a I I CIty expense,
or whether the sItuation was resolved. Staff was asked to research
that further.
Councilmember Jacobson noted the Andover Express has never been
delIvered to his home or others along UnIversIty Avenue sInce the CIty
has used It as Its offIcIal newsletter. Staff was asked to check Into
their dIstrIbutIon further.
Councllmember Perry also suggested some acknowledgement of the gl it
from Otto PfeIffer be made In the CIty newsletter.
Councllmember SmIth stated one of the buIlders doIng busIness In
Andover has gone bankrupt, causIng a lot of problems to the resIdents
workIng wIth hIm. He asked If the CIty should develop a polley
concernIng the buIlders and developers so there Is trackIng. contro I ,
and accountlblllty for the problems Incurred by the CIty's resIdents.
Mayor Orttel stated the purpose of the State bIll Is to requIre
bondi ng, state Ilscenslng, contInuIng educatIon requIrements, etc.
Councilmember Perry asked about the progress of a Tree PreservatIon
Plan in lIght of the many upcomIng developments In the CIty. The
Recording Secretary reported the Tree CommIssIon Is holdIng specIal
meet I ngs In February to fInalIze an ordInance and a Tree PreservatIon
Pol Icy, hopefully for the CouncIl to consIder by March 3.
MOTION by SmIth to adjourn. The meetIng adjourned at 10:52 p.m.
Respectfully submItted, L---
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Mar ella A. Peach, RecordIng Secretary
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