HomeMy WebLinkAboutSP November 14, 1991
~ CITY of ANDOVER
SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING - NOVEMBER 14. 1991
MINUTES
A Special MeetIng of the Andover City CounclJ was calJed to order by
Mayor Ken Orttel on November 14. 1991; 7:30 p.m.. at the Andover CIty
Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW. Andover, Minnesota. to discuss the
final draft of the ComprehensIve Plan.
Councilmembers present: Jacobson, McKelvey. Perry, Sml th
Councllmembers absent: None
Also present: UrbanaIysIs RepresentatIve, Bob Wuornos
PlannIng and Zoning CommIssIon ChaIrperson.
Randy Peek
City Planner. Dave Carlberg
CIty AdmInIstrator. JIm Schrantz
Others
The Counc II did a chapter-by-chapter review of the ComprehensIve Plan
Draft and made the followIng comments. recommendatIons and changes:
CHAPTER I. COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING
No comments or changes.
CHAPTER I I . BACKGROUND INFORMATION
Page II-4. FIgure II-B. PopulatIon Trend for Andover: Mr. Wuornos
explaIned the graph represents 10-year Increments based on the number
of unIts brought on lIne as determined by TKDA. It also Incorporates
the population per household tor those years that the MetropolItan
CounclJ provIdes.
Page II-13. Second paragraph: Mr. Wuornos explained the paragraph
means those areas already developed in 2 1/2-acre lots will not likely
be subdIvided Into smaller lots. whIch Is the reason they are beIng
ca]led severely or moderately restrIctIve areas.
CHAPTER III. GOALS STATEMENT
No comments or changes.
CHAPTER IV. UTILITIES PLAN
Page IV-ll. 15. PotentIal Sewer ExpansIon Area: Mr. Wuornos stated
the use of the term "Future Urban ServIce Area" refers to that area
whIch can potentlaJly be served by gravIty fJow as determined by the
TKDA study.
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FIgure IV-F. Land Use Plan: Jerry WlndschItl expressed concern over
the classification of Open Space on 160 acres east of the CIty Hal]
site off Hanson Boulevard. He owns a portion of that property and was
not sure what Is goIng to be done In that area. The City does not
currently have such a zone; and If It Is going to be only for open
space. it is cJearly a taking of his property. If I t Is stI J J being
consIdered for a golf course or some other recreational facilIty. he
would like to get It defined.
Mr. Wuornos referenced Item 4. Page VIII-18. whIch outJIned the
proposed use for that property. The Intent was to allow a PUD
development with a densIty trade-off of about 2.1 units per acre. The
total number of units would remain the same but the open space area
would have to be maintained as well.
DIscussIon noted that gravIty flow sanItary sewer servIce can be
provided up to the ditch. and possIbly to a portion of the property
beyond the dItch. Counc I J agreed with some type of PUD or cluster
housing or senior cItIzen housing In that area. though that type of
deveJopment has not been done In Andover before. Mr. WIndschl t J
stated he would work with the City on a development of that type.
Counc II and Mr. WIndschItl agreed to the followIng change In Item 4.
Page VIII-18:
"A 160-acre site along the east side of Hanson Boulevard and northeast
of City Hall Is set aside for future deyelopment. The Intent Is to
encourage a planned unit development with housing clustered In the
developable areas while utlJlzlng the remaining areas for parks.
traIls, public recreational development. and/or wlldJlfe areas."
It was also agreed to asterisk that open space designatIon <OS*) to
separate It from the other parks because a PUD development will be
alJowed with open spaces remaining for publIc recreatIonal
development.
Page IV-17 and Figure IV-G. Phasing of Urban ExpansIons: There was a
lengthy discussion on the proposal. The CounclJ was leary of being so
specific In proposing which properties will have sanitary sewer
expansion In a specific time period. The ComprehensIve Plan Is only a
guIde; and by beIng so specific. they feared some landowners will be
forced to deveJop when they don't want to. and others who want to
develop wIll be forced to walt. They also did not want to be so
InflexlbJe that every expansIon wouJd require an amendment to the
Plan.
Mr. Schrantz explained the specific properties were calculated by
Staff and TKDA from the map of Phasing of Urban Expansion and the
comments of property owners made at the 1987 publIc hearIngs regarding
utiJltles expansion. Mayor Orttel Indicated there are areas beIng
proposed for expansIon where property owners have specifically asked
not to be Included.
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CouncIlmember McKelvey was particularly concerned wIth bypassing
properties to provide service beyond. makIng specIal reference to the
property north of CIty Hall. The area Immediately north of City Hall
is not slated for development untIl beyond 2005. yet the two areas
further north are shown as developIng In 1996 through 2000 and 2000
through 2005.
Mr. Wuornos suggested a summary table replace Page IV-17 whIch shows
the total acres. total unIts. and units per acre for each phase of
expansion. Council agreed.
Mayor Orttel poInted out as the number of avaIlable buIldIng sItes In
Coon Rapids dlmlshes. there will be pressure for expansion In Andover
In the 1990s. Though he didn't feel the CIty wants such rapId
development to throwaway all Its plannIng. he did think It Is
something that should be addressed.
There was some discussIon on what to do about those areas that have
been allotted capacIty but which are not developIng such as HartfIel's
AddItion and Watt's Garden Acres. Because It ties up capacIty for
areas whIch want to develop. the Counc II suggested that that polIcy.
whIch Is outsIde of thIs Plan. be researched further to consIder
alJocatIng that capacity elsewhere untIl those areas petition for It.
Mr. Car]berg stated the Metropolitan Council Staff has saId that a
10-acre parcel Inside the MUSA which has a house on It Is considered
fu I J y deve loped. In light of that. he felt the total unIts allocated
in the MUSA should be recalculated. Counc I I agreed.
It was also agreed that the map Is the CIty's "best guess" of
where development will occur withIn specifIc time frames. and there
will probably be trade-offs where some areas wlJI want servIce before
others. This shouJd be noted In the Plan.
MOTION by Jacobson. Seconded by SmIth. to remove the sIte-specIfIc
list on Page IV-17 and Include the summary chart presented thIs
eyenlng. DISCUSSION: The Counc I I also agreed to the folJowIng
changes In Figure IV-G:
The hatched area Just north of City Hall to be served In 2005-2010
to be changed to Phase 2. 1995-2000 development. The 40 acres
ImmediatelY west of City Hall. a portion of which Is In Ag
Preserve. to remain In the 2005-2010 development period.
The Truttle property both north and south of Andover Boulevard
IndIcated In Phase 3 to be removed or IndIcated as deveJopment In
2005-2010 because It Is currently farmed and the owner has
IndIcated he Is not Interested In developing.
Motion carrIed unanImously.
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Page IV-21. F., A: Change to read: "The City may revIew Its present
pol Icy that al J sewers wIthin the MUSA Boundary be gravity flow
systems (prIvate temporary). " The CouncIJ's posItIon baslcaJJy was
to retaIn the present polIcy of not allowIng 11ft statIons. though
they can be consIdered on an Individual basis. That policy may be
reviewed If necessary.
CHAPTER V. HOUSING AND RESIDENTIAL LAND USE
FIgure V-A Land Use Map: Insert the asterIsk on the Open Space area
north of CIty Hall (OS*) as previously agreed to.
Page V-14, 14. First paragraph. correct last sentence: "The city with
the least number of unIts Is Ramsey with 3.674."
Page V-19. last paragraph: Mayor Orttel and Councilmember Jacobson
objected to the restriction of limiting subdivisIon of property In the
FUSA area to one for 40 acres. They argued that It Is too
restrIctive. that most property owners wIll not develop theIr land If
they know If and when utlltIes wllJ be available. that there are very
few 40-acre parcels within the FU5A. Mayor Orttel stated It Is a
perpetuaJ moratorIum to tell peopJe they cannot develop their property
with no plan to provide sewer to that area. No assurance can be given
those residents as to when they can develop.
Councllmember Perry and Chairperson Peek explained the position of the
Task Force was to lImIt development in the potentIal MU5A area so that
It is possIble to develop when the utilItIes ace avaIlable. They
argued restrIcting to 1/10 Is not feasible. because ten-acre parceJs
are extremely difficult to subdivide. Also 2.5-acre developments
basically stop any further urban development through that acea. which
Is what has happened on the west side of the City.
Mayor OrtteJ stated the area within the FUSA Is basIcally developed
already. suggesting an Inventory would find very few developable
40-acre parcels. ThIs area Is projected for sewer service beyond the
year 2010. 20 or more years from now. In the past ten years there has
not been a problem with large-lot developments In areas that wllJ
eventually be served with sewer, feelIng the 1/40 proposal is too
restrIctIve and not necessary. Mr. WindschI t I agreed that owners of
open land wIll walt for sewer if they know It is comIng.
After further debate. CounclImember Jacobson suggested rather than
beIng specific In the ~Ian. that the possIbIJlty of lot size
restrIctIons In the FUSA be addressed at the time the Plan Is
Implemented via the ordinances. Any ordinance change would be done by
public hearing. which would allow further publIc Input.
MOTION by Jacobson. Seconded by Smith. that we change the second
sentence to "The plan requIres further restrictIon on the subdivIsIon
of land withIn this dIstrict until such time that sanitary sewer can
be extended In a cost effIcIent manner." MotIon carried on a 4-Yes.
I-No (Perry> vote.
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CHAPTER V I . COMMERCIAL LAND USE
Page VI-12. First paragraph: Change "Rural CooperatIve Power
Association" to "United Cooperative Power AssociatIon".
Page VI-18. Second paragraph. reference H2 to 3 mile radius" foe
shoppJng centers. The consensus was that shopping centers serve a
larger radJus. It was agreed to delete "a 2 to 3 mile radJus of".
CHAPTER V I r. INDUSTRIAL LAND USE
Page VII-7. k. transportatJon termlna] or motor freight termJnal: It
was agreed to delete that Jtem since that use Js In the process of
beJng deleted from the ordinances as an allowable Use.
Page VII-a. 1. Second paragraph: Change to read, "The tIre dump has
been cleared. It Is uncertaIn when this land wIll be avaJlable for
deve I opment."
CHAPTER VI I 1. PARKS. RECREATION. AND OPEN SPACES
Figure VIII-E. Trails Plan: There was some questJon as to how It Is
planned to put trails through exIsting developments. Mayor Ortte]
felt that It basically refers to sidewalks and along major
thoroughfares.
FJgure VIII-F, City Center Park Sketch Plan: It was agreed to delete
the word "New" In front of "Elementary School SJ te".
CHAPTER IX. TRANSPORTATION PLAN
No changes.
CHAPTER X. AVIATION
No changes.
CHAPTER XI. IMPLEMENTATION
Page XI-3. e. Residential-Urban SIngle Family (RU): Change sentence
referrIng to 40-acre Jot restrlctJon wJth the same language as moved
In Chapter V.
FJgure XI-A Land Use Plan: Place an asterJsk by the Open Space
desJgnatlon north and east of City Hal] (OS*) .
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MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Smith, that with the changes that
have been noted here thIs evenIng In the Comprehensive Plan Draft.
that we approve the Plan and authorize the Mayor and anyone else who
needs to sign off on It to have It delIvered to the MetropolItan
CouncIl. MotIon carried unanImously.
Mr. Wuornos stated he wIll leave the reference to D~aft and date on
the pages In the copy submItted to the Metropolitan Council. They
wI]] be deleted when the final approved copIes are prInted. Mr.
Car]berg stated he wl]l update two copIes of the Plan wIth the changes
made this evenIng for the CIty offIces and fIve other copIes to be
submItted to the adjacent cIties.
MOTION by Jacobson to adjourn. Mayor Orttel declared the meetIng
adjourned at 9:41 p.m.
Respectful]y submitted.
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Marcella A. Peach
Recording Secretary
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