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~ CITY of ANDOVER·
Regular City Council Meeting-June 4, 1991
7:30 P.M. Call to Order
Resident Forum
Agenda Approval
Approval of Minutes
Discussion Items
I. Public Hearing/91-5/Njordmark Dale
2. Kob's preliminary Plat, Cont.
3. Lot Split/variance-D. Norsten
4. Indian Meadows Platting Procedure
5. Ordinance 10 Interpretation
6. Compo Water Plan, Cant.
7. Local Option Sales Tax
8, WDE Consent Decree
9. Resolution/Anoka County Rifle Range, Cant.
Staff, Committee, Commmission
10. Appoint Tree ~ommission
11. Adopt Policy/Interest on Escrows
12. Crooked Lake Eurasian Milfoil Management
13. Amend Resolution Accepting Old Constance Blvd.
14. Dog Ordinance Discussion
15. Approve Kennel License Renewal/P. Prior
16. Approve Temp. Non-Intox. Liquor License/Lions
Club
17. Award Bid/Recycling Bldg. Concrete Apron
18. Goodwill Contract Cancellation
Non-Discussion Items
19. Approve Final Plat/Creekview Crossing
20. Award Bid/Creekview Crossing/91-2
21. Receive Feasibility Report/91-l2/Red Oaks Water
22. Final payment/90-6
Mayor/Council Input
Adjournment
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REGULAR ANDOVER CITY COUNCIL MEETING - JUNE 4. 1991
TABLE OF CONTENTS
RESIDENT FORUM . . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
AGENDA APPROVAL . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
APPROVAL OF MINUTES · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
PUBLIC HEARING/IP91-5/NJORDMARK DALE . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
Resolution R076-91 to termInate . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 7
KOBS' PRELIMINARY PLAT . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 7
MotIon to table. · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 8
LOT SPLIT/VARIANCE - D. NORSTEN · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 8
Resolution R077-91 to approve . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 8
INDIAN MEADOWS PLATTING PROCEDURE · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 8
MotIon for Attorney to draw up agreement · · · · · · · · · · · 9
ORDINANCE 10 INTERPRETATION · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 9
COMPREHENSIVE WATER PLAN . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 10
Resolution R078-91. Plans and specs/Crosstown watermaln loop · 10
DOG ORDINANCE DISCUSSION . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 10
FEASIBILITY REPORT/IP91-12/RED OAKS WATER · · · · · · · · · · · · 12
WDE CONSENT DECREE . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 13
NON-DISCUSSION ITEMS . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 14
ResolutIon R079-91. Approve Anoka County RIfel Range · · · · · 14
AppoInt Tree CommissIon . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 14
Resolution R080-91. Old Constance Boulevard. · · · · · · · · · 14
Approve Kennel Llcense/P. PrIor . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 14
Award BId/Concrete apron to Recycling BuIldIng (Mark D. Olson). 14
GoodwIll contract cancellation · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 14
ResolutIon R081-91. receIve feasibility, 91-12. Red Oaks Water. 14
LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX. table · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 15
ADOPT POLICY/INTEREST ON ESCROWS . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 15
CROOKED LAKE EURASIAN MILFOIL MANAGEMENT . · · · · · · · · · · · · 15
APPROVE TEMPORARY NON-INTOXICATING LIQUOR LICENSE/LIONS CLUB . · · 15
APPROVE FINAL PLAT/CREEK VIEW CROSSING . · · · · · · · · · · · · · 15
ResolutIon R082-91, approvIng fInal plat · · · · · · · · · · · 16
Table of Contents
MeetIng of June 4, 1991
Page II
AWARD BID/CREEK VIEW CROSSING/IP91-2 . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 16
ResolutIon R083-91. to C. W. Houle. Inc. · · · · · · · · · · · 16
FINAL PAYMENT/IP90-6 . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 16
ResolutIon R084-91. to Ro-So ContractIng · · · · · · · · · · · 16
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 16
MAYOR AND COUNCIL INPUT
Length of meetings · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 16
ADJOURNMENT . . . . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 16
~ CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - JUNE 4. 1991
MINUTES
The Regular BI-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called
to order by Mayor Ken Orttel on June 4, 1991. 7:30 p.m.. at at the
Andover City Hall. 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW. Andover. Minnesota.
CounclImembers present: Jacobson. McKelvey. Smith
CouncIlmember absent: Perry
Also present: City Attorney, William G. Hawkins; TKDA
Engineer, John DavIdson; AssIstant CIty
Engineer. Todd Haas; City Planner, David
Carlberg; City Finance DIrector. Howard
Koollck; City Administrator. James Schrantz:
others
RESIDENT FORUM
Tom MIller. 2252 140th Avenue - was concerned that a study was done
for water in the entire Red Oaks area based on the request of only a
few people. Not everyone In his neighborhood has been contacted and
they are not Interested In getting munlclpal water. Mayor Orttel
stated the feasibilIty report Is on tonIght's agenda; but because of
the cost. there are some concerns. If the CouncIl Is to proceed.
everyone wIll be notified of a public hearing where they can gIve
their opInIons. Councllmember Smith explaIned It was his
understanding that the petItion was for a feasibility study only. not
an IndicatIon of theIr positIon on the project.
AGENDA APPROVAL
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Smith. to adopt the Agenda as
presented with the addItIon of the Approval of Claims. MotIon carried
on a 4-Yes. l-Absent (Perry) vote.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
May 21, 1991: Correct as wrItten.
MOTION by Smith. Seconded by McKelvey. approval of the MInutes of
May 21 as written. Motion carried on a 4-Yes. l-Absent (Perry) vote.
PUBLIC HEARING/IP91-5/NJORDMARK DALE
Mayor Orttel. opened the hearIng at 7:37 p.m. and explained the 429
procedure for assessable city projects. Shawn Gustafson. BRA. then
revIewed the existIng status of the roads In the 178th Lane/NJordmark
Dale area and the proposed Improvement.
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Regular City CouncIl MeetIng
Minutes - June 4. 1991
Page 2
(PublIc HearIng/IP91-5/NJordmark Dale. Continued)
Mr. Gustafson explaIned the roto-milIlng of the exIstIng pavement will
be mixed with the existIng base material which wIll strengthen the
exIsting aggregate base. The roadways wIll be wIdened to 24 feet to
meet the CIty's current road standards. He reviewed the proposed
storm draInage system In the area. The cost will depend on whether
the boulevards are seeded or sodded. The proposed cost for the 18
benefItted lots is $4,160 if the boulevards are sodded. The estimated
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cost Is $3.760 per lot If the seeding alternatiye is used. The
increase over what was origInally estImated Is because of the
addItIonal cost to pave 178th Lane from TulIp to Quay. for the
wIdening of the roads In NJordmark Dale and for culverts and slope
changes In the area.
The hearing was then opened for publIc testImony.
Tom Barrett. 3384 178th Lane - asked If the proposal meets the
CIty's street standards. He also asked about the status of the
culvert he has running parallel to the road along hIs lot. Mr.
Gustafson stated the proposal does meet City standards. They dId not
pick up on the culvert across his yard; but he explaIned that I t wi 1 1
have to be moved further from the road to accommodate the road width
and slopIng.
Mr. Barrett - stated he gets a considerable amount of water each
spring on the east side. which he has no problem with. However. If It
gets deeper on the west side. he would have a problem wIth that. Mr.
Gustafson didn't thInk it would get deeper
Mr. Barrett - asked If they have ruled out resurfacing and
crack sealIng and what does Mr. Gustafson feel caused the road to
deterIorate. Mr. Gustafson stated It Is stIli an option. but the CIty
asked them to look Into the mIlling option. which would give a longer
life to the road. WIth that and two Inches of asphalt. they are
gettIng a 20-year design road which wouldn't need as much maIntenance
or crack sealing. There are cheaper short-term options; however. this
provIdes the cheapest over the 20-year perIod. Mr. Gustafson also
felt the road probably deteriorated because the bituminous and quality
control was not as good when the road was buIlt as It Is today. The
road is about 16 years old. which Is close to the poJected 20-year
life of roadways. It also has a lot to do with the maintenance.
In a brief discussion. a resIdent estimated the road was built In
1975 by Lary Carlson. the developer. Mayor Orttel explaIned the City
did not have standards for pavIng at that time. The developer was
not required to blacktop the road but did that on his own. Only 1 1/2
Inch of bitumInous was required with some tolerance; so many places
may have had only one Inch of bItumInous.
Regular City Council MeetIng
Minutes - June 4. 1991
Page 3
(PublIc Hearlng/IP91-5/NJordmark Dale. Continued)
Mr. Barrett - stated from the last meeting. a lot of residents felt
the City had not maintained the road properly. He wondered if
somethIng could be worked out to have the City subsIdIze a portIon of
those costs. Mayor Orttel stated no. explaining the CIty has
maintained the polIcy of each area paying for its own improvements.
Mr. Barrett - stated he pays $1.600 a year In taxes but hasn't
receIved any maIntenance on the road. As a resident, he would lIke
some of those tax dollars to update the road. He accused the CIty of
neglIgence for years by not maIntaining their roads. Mayor Orttel
explained of the tax dollars. the City only receives about $160 of It
which has to go toward fIre and police protectIon. plowing roads.
maintaining roads, etc. Because the City has always been careful on
Its use of the tax dollars. It receives very lIttle. There is no
funding available to help In such projects
Mr. Barrett - stated theIr streets get plowed last. and the deputy
has told his wife that he's never been out there before. Deputy Dick
Albertson stated he told Mr. Barrett's wife that he has been out there
many times.
Dwane Novak. 3315 178th Lane - also stated they have not had any
maintenance. feeling the City should have tried to fix the road In 15
years. He asked about the monies the CIty gets back from the State.
Mr. Schrantz explained that it was determined that crack sealing would
not do any good. so nothing was done in anticipatIon of a more
permanent solutIon. Mayor Orttel explained the CIty has receIved
major cuts in its funding. and the revenues are frozen despite
increased growth the last three years. The City has elimInated
sealcoatlng because of the expense and has gone to crack sealing; but
the Mayor did not know why their streets had not been crack sealed.
The CIty does not overlay streets.
Mr. Novak - stated it seems that the roads deteriorated after the
natural gas was Installed. There was some dIscussIon among those In
the audience about the maintenance of the road. It was guessed that
the Jast time the roads were crack sealed was In 1980. Mr. Schrantz
stated most of the streets broke up at the time the houses were beIng
constructed because of the heavy trucks.
Joe Noonan. 17781 OrchId Street NW - asked what assurance they have
that the CIty wIll maIntain this road so It doesn't break up In ten
years. The dIscussion among some of the residents was agaIn theIr
frustration with the lack of maintenance for the past ten years and
that the CIty should then contribute toward the upgrading of the
street. Another resident again complained their area Is the last to
get plowed in the wInter. Mayor Orttel stated the Public Works
Department rotates the plowing so an area Is not always first or last.
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Regular City Council Meeting
Minutes - June 4, 1991
Page 4
(PublIc Hearlng/IP91-5/NJordmark Dale, ContInued)
It takes about 12 hours to clear all the streets In the CIty. Because
the Public Works Supervisor was not present. the CouncIl dId not have
the maintenance record for the NJordmark Dale area.
Mr. Noonan - was also concerned about why the City has not
maintained the roads and what they are payIng for wIth their taxes.
Mayor Orttel again explained the expenses of the City. noting that the
residents of Andover get more services for their tax dollars than most
cities around. He also again noted that the City Is not In the
posItion to subsIdize a road Improvement. nor has It ever done so In
the past. If the people want It. the CouncIl wIll order It. If the
majorIty are opposed, It wIll be dropped.
Mr. Noonan - asked what will happen If the proJect Is not done. When
he moved out. it was one-half rural. He dId not want a freeway but
felt they need a decent road. Mr. Schrantz stated they will patch the
holes.
Bob Dlsrud. 3568 178th Avenue NW - asked why the tar Is going to be
reused. He questIoned If that wouldn't gIve those In NJormark Dale a
better road than those livIng on the dirt road. Mr. Gustafson
explained all the roads within the project wIll have about a 20-year
life.
Mr. DIsrud - asked what the cost is for maintaining the gravel
portion, and could any of that money go back to the homeowners toward
this project. Mayor Orttel didn't know the cost but once It Is
tarred. there are maintenance costs in sealcoatlng and crack sealing.
Mr. DIsrud - asked how the project will be bid. Is the seeding
yersus sodding option goIng to be up to the resIdents? Mr. Gustafson
explained It will be advertised In the constructIon bulletin as Is
done with all projects. Whether the project is seeded or sodded wi I]
be up to the Council and the residents; however. the entIre project
will be done the same. He recommended sodding sInce they have had
better results with sod.
A resIdent asked the cost dIfference between the existing 20-foot
versus the proposed 24-foot width of the streets. Mr. Gustafson saId
It is about $250 per lot over the entIre project. The grayel portion
Is about 24 to 26 feet wide. Mayor Orttel stated there may be some
liabIlIty to the City if it does not follow Its own standards when
doing a project.
Mr. DIsrud - asked about paving the driveways to meet existing
driveways. Mr. Gustafson explaIned the cost Is based on 10 feet of
paving up driveways. Bituminous driveways to the right of way will
be matched.
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Regular City Council Meeting
Minutes - June 4. 1991
Page 5
<PublIc Hearlng/IP91-5/NJordmark Dale. Continued)
Mr. Dlsrud - asked why the City isn't pItchIng in to help pay for a
part of thIs project. sInce apparently maintenance Is not being done.
He noted a hole on hIs corner that the CIty hasn't done anything
abou t . He felt the CIty should pay at least 25 percent of the
project. Also. something should be done about the speed limit. Mayor
Orttel stated the roads wIll be posted when the project is done.
A resident asked what happens If the bIds come In lower. Mayor OrtteI
explaIned that If the project comes In fIve percent higher than
estImated. the policy Is to call the resIdents back In to see If they
stIli want it. OtherwIse, there are no further hearIngs untIl the
assessment hearing.
Stanley Meester. 17821 Orchid Street NW - stated of the 18 homes. 14
are In NJordmark Dale. He felt the majority to put the road through
his area should be based on 14 wIthout those on the gravel portion of
178th Lane. Everybody would lIke to see the gravel portion done. but
$4.160 Is a lot of money. Mayor Orttel explained It Is considered one
project. The gravel portion of 178th was Included at the request of
the residents In NJordmark Dale. Mr. Gustafson explaIned the actual
cost to do the gravel portion Is more than the remaining area.
approximately $6.000 per lot If It stood on Its own; so in essence
those In the NJordmark Dale area are helpIng to pay for that access of
178th. And the cost for doing Just the gravel portIon would be even
higher than that estImate because It Is such a small project.
A resident asked If It is reasonable for those In NJordmark Dale to
chip In to pay to have the gravel portIon done. Mayor Orttel stated
It was done once before but It would be strIctly voluntary by the
residents.
Another resIdent asked whether somethIng would be done at the
Intersection of Quay Street. as it Is lIke quicksand In that vicInIty.
Mr. Gustafson stated something would be done to correct the problem.
Mayor Orttel stated there was a petItIon for Quay Street at one tIme;
however. they decided agaInst It because of cost.
Mr. Barrett - stated at the last meetIng 8 percent for 8 years was
discussed. askIng If that Is stilI possible. Mayor OrtteI explained
the interest depends on the cost of the bonds; however. It Is around 8
percent now. A flye- or eight-year time perIod Is also possible If
the residents agree.
DiscussIon contInued wIth several residents In the audience about what
happens If the project Is not done. how do they know the City will
maintaIn the new road. their accusatIons that the CIty has not
adequatelY maIntaIned that road. and theIr belIef that the City should
pay for a portion of the project.
Regular CIty Council MeetIng
Minutes - June 4. 1991
Page 6
(Public HearIng/IP91-5/NJordmark Dale. ContInued)
Counc I I and Staff again noted the road will be patched if the project
is not ordered. that It will be put on the regular maintenance
schedule for crack sealing. that the CIty will not start subsIdizIng
Improvement projects. that the City's revenues are being cut. that the
CIty has never assessed for seaIcoating but may have to consider that
option. that the heavy trucks and thin layer of bItuminous may have
caused the deterIoratIon of roads, and that the reason It has not been
sealcoated or crack sealed In recent years Is because it was felt the
roads are in such a deteriorated state that It would not do any good.
DIscussion was then on the petition and what the majority of the
residents wish to do. The original petition has 16 In favor. 2
opposed.
Mr. Meester - stated he wished to change hIs vote to a no.
Mr. Noonan - understood the petitIon was for a feasIbility study. He
Is agaInst the project. as he cannot afford It.
Mayor Orttel read the names from the petitIon, and the following
Indicated they wished to change theIr positIon from a yes to a no:
Doug Strand. 3415 178th Lane NW; Jeff Weast, 3345 178th Lane NW; Bob
DIsrud. 3568 178th Avenue NW; and James Larson. 17741 Orchid Street
NW. The petItion stands at 10 yes. 8 no. Counc II noted that the
majorIty at the meeting have expressed a desire not to haye the roads
Improved. though several people were not In attendance.
Mrs. Barrett - stated she and her husband went through the
neighborhood to fInd an Interest In doing the project. They explained
the process to the people. Other residents pointed out that the
majorIty of the people are opposed. even some who are not here.
Counc II noted everyone was sent a letter Informing them of the
proposal and of the meeting. Those In favor of the petition
expressed a desIre to have the decIsion on the project made thIs
hearing. arguing thIs is the public hearing. Those opposed felt the
neIghborhood should be petitIoned agaIn. as It was theIr feeling there
Is a majority opposed.
Mayor Orttel asked If anyone was willing to pay to have only the
gravel portion paved. No one responded.
Councllmember Jacobson made a motIon to proceed with the project. The
motIon was not seconded.
Tom ReIchert. 3520 178th Lane NW - stated he Is opposed to the
project, stating he cannot afford It and he didn't know how he would
benefit from It. He also noted a drainage problem on hIs lot which has
not been corrected. (He was not present when the Mayor read the
names from the petition.>
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Regular CIty CouncIl MeetIng
MInutes - June 4. 1991
Page 7
(Pub]Ic Hearlng/IP91-5/NJordmark Dale. ContInued)
WIth that. the Counc II noted It appears to be 9 In favor. 9 opposed.
whIch Is not a clear maJorIty.
MOTION by Jacobson. Seconded by smIth. that based upon the 50-50
vote of the people here expressIng theIr views strongly both pro and
con. and sInce It Is a spilt vote. moye to lay asIde the petition and
termInate the project. (See ResolutIon R076-91) MotIon carrIed on a
4-Yes. l-Absent (Per~y) vote. HearIng closed at 9 p.m.
KOBS' PRELIMINARY PLAT. CONTINUED
Mr. Haas revIewed the recommendatIons of Staff regardIng the Kobs'
prelImInary plat. noting the proposed varIances. Since the Item was
before the CouncIl on May 21. two varIances have been elimInated and
one added due to the 50-foot easement requIrement along TulIp. The
dedIcatIon for TulIp Street Is recommended to be taken from the
exIsting centerlIne 50 feet west. When the CIty constructs that road.
It wIll have to acquIre the rest of the dedIcatIon from the adjoInIng
property owners on the east side.
Counc I 1 noted Lots 2 and 3 stIlI do not front on a publIc roadway
because of the slIyer of land shown whIch Is not owned by Mr. lobs.
Ken lobs - stated Mr. Haas gave hIm the survey that was done on the
property directly east of Tulip. The silver of land Is actually much
smaller. coverIng only about one-half of the way down Lot 3. WI th the
50-foot easement dedicated. It goes nIne feet Into hIs property. so
Lots 2 and 3 do have 300 feet on the roadway. Mayor OrtteI argued the
slIver of land belongs to someone else and cannot be dedicated to the
City by Mr. lobs.
Mr. Haas stated that eIther Mr. Kobs or the City could acquIre that
sliver of land. Mayor Orttel stated It Is the developer's
responsIbilIty. not the CIty's. Mr. lobs must obtaIn possessIon of
that sIlver of land to have frontage on the road. Attorney HawkIns
also stated that It Is likelY that the City only has easement over the
used portIon of the road. not 33 feet as the survey IndIcates. He
advised the Council could approve the prelImInary subject to the
frontage problem on Lot 3 being corrected prIor to the fIlIng of the
fInal plat. Mr. Schrantz thought that M~. lobs doesn't have access
anywhere along TulIp If the CIty doesn't have 33 feet of easement
along It. Council dIrected that the amount of easement the City has
along Tulip be determined.
The Counc II then discussed the other varIances on the plat. with the
general feeling being there are stili too many. One suggestion was to
el Imlnate a lot In the plat. whIch would elImInate most of the
varIances.
Regular City Council Meeting
MInutes - June 4. 1991
Page 8
(Kobs' PrelimInary Plat. Continued)
Mr. Kobs understood that the proposal before the CouncIl was agreed
to. The plat averages 9 lots In 32.7 acres. which Is close to three
acres per lot. The variances are needed because of the topography of
the land. not to get an extra lot.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by SmIth. that we table thIs to allow
the developer to 1) talk to the landowner to look at acquiring the
necessary rIght of way along Tulip Street and 2) to serIously consIder
droppIng one lot to remove most of the variances. understanding there
stIlI will be a few varIances. but dropping one lot wIll mean a
considerable number of them will be eliminated. DISCUSSION: Counc II
agreed the Item Is to be tabled to a period that Is wI thIn the
ordInance time requIrements. Motion carrIed on a 4-Yes. l-Absent
(Perry) vote.
LOT SPLIT/VARIANCE - D. NORSTEN
Planning and ZonIng CommIssion ChaIrperson Randy Peek revIewed the
Commission's recommendation to approve the lot spIlt of Dennis and
Jeanette Norsten. 17525 TulIp Street. to two parcels of 2.497 and
2.278 acres. Mayor Orttel suggested the 50-foot rIght of way be taken
along TulIp. as the City has agreed to take the needed right of way
when property Is developed. Mr. Haas stated the county Is requiring
60 feet of easement along their roadways.
MOTION by Smith. Seconded by Jacobson. a ResolutIon granting the lot
spIlt and varIance request wIth the additIonal requIrement that the
City acquIre the additional road easement of whatever Is required by
Anoka County at thIs time. (See Resolution R077-91) DISCUSSION:
Counc 11 noted this Is subject to the approval of the property owner.
MotIon carrIed on a 4-Yes. l-Absent (Perry) vote.
INDIAN MEADOWS PLATTING PROCEDURE
Park and RecreatIon CommIssion Chairperson Jeff Kieffer asked the
CouncIl's posItion on the request of Wayne Bachman. developer of
IndIan Meadows. to have the final plat approved without the
construction of the streets In exchange for the dedicatIon of some
property. IncludIng a pond. to the City as a part of the Kelsey-Round
Lake Park.
Attorney HawkIns reviewed his opInIon of May 31. 1991, that the
CouncIl can accept the deyeloper's p~oposal; howeyer. to protect the
CIty, the developer should agree to restrictive covenances IndicatIng
he will not sell the lots or construct houses untIl the streets are
In. It Is a policy matter for the CouncIl. The City would gIve up
the ImmedIate requIrement to build the roads In exchange for ImmedIate
use of park property.
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Regular City CouncIl MeetIng
Minutes - June 4. 1991
Page 9
(Indian Meadows PlattIng Procedure. ContInued)
Wayne Backman - would lIke to have the property platted to lock Into
the 2 1/2-acre lot sIze. In exchange. he would dedicate the nIne
acres of land the Park Board wants for Kelsey Park. He didn't know
when the land would be developed. There are about 44 lots left that
he owns that are not yet developed. Further dIscussIon was the
CouncIl felt the situatIon wIth the access to the park off County Road
20 and the parking lot area was already agreed to.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by smith, that we authorize the City
Attorney to meet wIth the developer to develop language whIch would
maintain the rights of the developer and rights of the CIty and come
back to the Council with that contract for our revIew. DISCUSSION:
Mayor Orttel felt a vote In favor of the motIon ImplIes agreement with
the general concept. MotIon carrIed on a 4-Yes. l-Absent (Perry) vote.
ORDINANCE 10 INTERPRETATION
It was Attorney HawkIns' opInIon that If any part of a plat Is not
flIed withIn sIx months followIng the approval of the prelImInary
plat. the developer must fIle a request In writing for an extensIon.
whIch must be acted on by the CouncIl. Mr. Schrantz stated the CouncIl
has not been requIrIng the developer to ask for extension of plats
that are staged. Attorney HawkIns felt that should be done. but I t Is
up to the Council to determIne the length of that extensIon.
Mayor OrtteI said the ordinance Is somewhat confusIng as to Just what
the six-month provIsIon applIes to. as It seems to apply only to plats
that have had nothing done to them. He suggested this be clarifIed.
Jerry WIndschltl - felt the Idea behInd the ordinance was to look at
the plats If nothIng was done for sIx months, but large plats are
allowed to be staged. He felt It would be a problem If developers are
requIred to replat at the end of the six-month period. Attorney
HawkIns dIdn't feel the CIty wants to require the developers to
replat; however. the plats wIll have to meet any new ordInance
requirements that are enacted. He felt there needs to be some point
In time at whIch the developer should ask for an extensIon.
Wayne Backman - asked the CouncIl to strongly consIder a longer
InItial period between the preliminary plat and the fInal so they
don't have to come back so soon. Mayor Orttel stated that has not
been a problem In the past.
Council recommended those developers wIth unfIled plats over sIx
months old be notifIed of theIr need to ask the Council for
extensions. It was also recommended that the wordIng of Ordinance 10.
SectIon 11.01 (a) be clarifIed. Council agreed that technical
revisions to plats which are subject to ordinance revisions should be
handled by the ARC Committee.
Regular City Council MeetIng
Minutes - June 4. 1991
Page 10
Counc il recessed at 10:02; reconvened at 10:16 p.m.
COMPREHENSIVE WATER PLAN. CONTINUED
Mr. Davidson explaIned he met wIth Mr. Schrantz. Mr. Koollck and
Attorney Hawkins regarding the financial status of the water trunk
fund. To date. $4.415,576 has been assessed. and $4.088.346 has
been expended. It is antIcipated that by the end of this year. there
will be approximately $327.230 available If all assessments to date
come In. He and the Staff are recommending that the Crosstown
watermain loop Is the most critical In terms of cIrculatIon in the
system, which Is approximately $313,000 plus 10 percent. Of the three
wells. only one can pump to the tower at City Hall at this time;
howeyer. the other two wells could be modified to pump to the high
tower If there Is an emergency wIth the loop. It would also be
Important If areas such as Red Oaks and Northwoods came on line.
Mr. Davidson stated the City Is adding approximately 240 new water
connections a year. The CIty could also look at IncreasIng the water
user rates of whIch a portIon should be raising revenue for a sinkIng
fund for deprecIation to the present system. The City is not
reserving that revenue at this time. Attorney Hawkins cautioned that
the calculations are based upon all assessments being paid on time.
that there is no margin for error. Conservatively. this may have to
rely on some future connection charges.
Mr. Davidson stated the Crosstown watermaln loop Is not an assessed
project. He has prepared a letter-type feasibility report. The lIne
would be placed In the right of way along Crosstown on the east side
wIth the exception of one or two lots where the houses are very close
to the road. Then it probably would be placed under the street. He
thought the county had the upgrading of Crosstown In its five-year
plan. and they will work wIth the county regarding the placement of
the line. Mr. Davidson also stated there are no other large capItal
projects proposed for the next ten years other than another well.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by smith. that we authorize TKDA to
proceed with the plans and specifications and authorize them to come
back to the Council with the bid costs. (See Resolution R078-91)
Motion carried on a 4-Yes. I-Absent (Perry) vote.
DOG ORDINANCE DISCUSSION
Deputy Dick Albertson reported on the increase In the number of dog
complaInts over the past two years. It is getting to the point where
It Is dIfficult for them to enforce because It Is so time consuming.
About one-tenth of their time Is spent on this matter. Other cities
have Community Service Officers that handle dOg complaints. Such a
positIon may in part be funded through dog license fees. Of the
estimated 5.000 dogs in the City. only 150 to 200 are I I censed.
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Regular City Council Meeting
Minutes - June 4. 1991
Page 11
(Dog OrdInance Discussion. Continued)
Jean JanIqa - explaIned that neIghbors have moved In last January
with two large dogs that are running at large and have threatened her
and her daughter. The threats have Increased since the warm weather.
They have been given the run around as to what can be done about It.
AnImal control told her the only thing that could be done was to
advise the dog owners of the CIty's leash law. Ms. JanIga stated she
dId talk to the dog owner a while ago. who responded that her dogs
wouldn't hurt a flea. But last week one of the dogs bit a neighbor
girl. and they are being told nothIng can be done because an adult dId
not wItness the Incident. And apparently the responsIbIlIty of
whethe~ or not the dog Is rabid Is left to the dog owner. Her daughter
Is afraid to go out any more, noting there are other dogs that also
run In packs. She felt something needs to be done.
Attorney HawkIns advIsed that the City has a dog ordinance which
covers these cases. reviewing the procedure and consequences for
violating the ordinance. If a dog continues to run at large and
bites someone, It Is a criminal offense; and he can draft a crimInal
complaint If there Is a wIllIngness to testify.
BonnIe Leslie. 3912 North Enchanted DrIve - stated It was her
daughter that got bit. explaIning what happened In the Incident. She
felt It was very severe. expressing frustration at the fact that the
dog owner has not been made to prove the dog had Its shots and Is
entrusted with seeIng that the dog does not get sick. She Is very
-uncomfortable that no one can tell her that the dog Is free from
rabIes. She questioned what Is to say that the owne~s will not get
rid of the dog wIthout anyone knowIng about It.
Deputy Albertson explaIned the procedure they use Is to give the dog
owner the optIon to quarantIne their own dogs. They do not have time
to keep going back to the dog owners because there are so many dog
bI tes. The State requires a 10-day quarantine; Anoka County requIres
14 days.
Ms. Leslie - quipped she Is supposed to put her faith and trust In
someone who has totally disregarded the leash laws. She saId she has
requested to file a dangerous dog report. She also stated there Is a
severe problem with dogs running In their area.
In further discussIon with the resIdents and Deputy Albertson. the
Council recognIzed the dog problem and explained the procedure that
should be followed. Attorney Hawkins advised that even a picture of a
dog violation Is suffIcIent evIdence to fIle a complaInt. He wi I 1
write to the dog owner fIrst. which usually resolves the problem
without hayIng to go to court. M~. Carlberg also noted that 336 dog
licenses wIll expire In 1991. and he compared license fees with some
of the neighboring cities.
Regular City Council Meeting
Minutes - June 4. 1991
Page 12
(Dog Ordinance Discussion. ContInued)
Counc II talked about possible solutions to the dog problems. though
nothing specifIc was agreed to. The residents complained of not
getting the correct Information about what they can do about the dogs.
Attorney HawkIns suggested someone at the City be delegated to handle
al I dog complaints so accurate Information regardIng the City's
ordinance and procedures can be given out.
Mayor OrtteI felt the hIring of a CSO deserve some attentIon and
should be looked at when doing the 1992 budget. RaIsing liscensIng
fees can also be looked Into. The Mayor also suggested the Staff
discuss who should be handlIng dog complaInts to the poInt of whether
or not legal action should be taken, wonderIng if much of it could be
handled in house as the zoning enforcement is done.
Penny ? - Is upset about all thIs. SInce people's time Is so
valuable. she suggested requiring violators to do community service
work rather than payout money. Or consider dIscount licenses for
neutered dogs. Mayor Orttel stated the concern rIght now is the work
Involved prior to going to court. Generally the problems are
corrected before going to court.
Mayor Orttel also stated the CIty Clerk Is aware of the particular
Incident discussed this evening. and action will be taken. It was
also suggested something be wrItten In the City's newspaper to Inform
people of the problems and the ordinance requirements. Counc II also
suggested this be discussed by the resIdents themselves either In
neighborhoods or through the Crime Watch program, as they would be
open to any suggestions from the resIdents.
RECEIVE FEASIBILITY REPORT/IP91-12/RED OAKS WATER
Councilmember SmIth explaIned the procedure of having the feasIbIlity
report. setting the publIc hearing for resident Input. and the City
policy of requirIng 51 percent In favor before ordering a project.
Tom Miller - wondered about the percentages on the petitIon. as he
was told only 15 people signed It. Councllmember SmIth stated many
people were contacted. but not everyone. The project can also be
desIgned to Include one area and not another.
Mayor Ortte] felt that the cost of $5,000 Is a lot for water Is
extremely high. questIoning whether It Is even necessary to go to a
public hearIng. He didn't think that cost for water is feasIble since
a private well can be Installed for about $4.000. WIth an agreement
on the WDE site almost reached. no new wells will be allowed within a
certaIn distance of the landfill site. but existing wells will be
allowed to be replaced as needed.
ThIs Item was acted upon later in the meetIng.
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Regular City Council Meeting
Minutes - June 4. 1991
Page 13
WDE CONSENT DECREE
The Counc iI and Attorney Hawkins spent a great deal of tIme discussing
the Issues affecting the CIty of Andover in the WDE Consent Decree. In
partIcular. the letter of June 3. 1991. from Margaret Coughlin on
behalf of the NegotiatIng Committee. Mayor Orttel first reviewed the
outcome of a meeting on May 24. 1991. regarding this issue: and though
the City's concerns were not really discussed. there are no further
meetings scheduled. The EPA Is saying the agreement needs to be
finalized by June 7. Attorney HawkIns stated he will be receivIng a
call tomorrow morning at whIch time he will need to give the City's
response to the proposed agreement. The following items were
discussed:
CIty items -
Item 1: Allow the WDE Group to tap promptly into the Crosstown sewer
lIne on a temporary basis or until dIsposal Is allowed into Coon
Creek. Mayor Orttel noted they will not be allowed to go Into Coon
Creek. The Counc il generally agreed to allow the Group to tap Into
the sewer lIne subject to the Metropolitan Waste Control Commission
approva 1 . The agreement Is contingent upon not having any areas of
the City's MUSA reduced.
It em 2: Anodover wi I 1 allow permanent discharge Into the Bunker Lake
sewer line. Counc II agreed. subject to the same answer as Item 1.
It em 3: Charges for the temporary sewer hookup. Discussion was that
the hookup is estImated to be 20 to 30 years. but wIll be only water
running through the system. Deliberations were on what basis a charge
Is to be determIned. The City Is not charging for flowage. It was
finally agreed to charge an up-front flat fee of $164,000. which
equates to 110 acres times the area and connection charges. The
volume. trunk and lateral will not be charged.
Item 4: SO-acre area of Wasteco property on the south side of the
I andf il I . Mayor Orttel explained that the City is being asked to
waive the permitting process for excavation. The land will be left at
an elevation that can be used. He has asked that they leave about a
400-foot buffer of woods adjoining Red Oaks and zone that as Open
Space so i t wIll not be developed. The City Is being asked to rezone
that entIre SO acres to commercial. It was agreed to delete the
sentence "The City will permanently zone this land for either lIght
Industrial or commercial use.". to allow the City greater flexibility
yet st ill not allow single or mUltI-family residential uses.
City/County Issues:
Item 1: Northwestern portion of the landfill. Apparently that area
Is a part of the facIlIty and the City has no input as to what will be
done. The proposal Is to remove the trees for a pond, though there Is
an agreement to plant trees around the perImeter of the pondlng area.
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Regular CIty CouncIl MeetIng
MInutes - June 4, 1991
Page 14.
(WDE Consent Decree. ContInued)
It em 4: ClarIfy a sentence. "The CIty and County shall notIfy the WDE
Group of any proposals to change exIstIng utIlity conduIts on the west
side of Hanson Boulevard where It Is adjacent to the facilIty."
Item 6: Land use restrictIons. The CIty Is beIng told that no new
wells wIll be allowed to be drIlled wIthIn a two-mIle radIus of the
landfill. Mayor Orttel noted the one area that wIll be affected Is
the vacant area In the northwest. He suggested the CIty ask to be
allowed to drIll a mInImum of one or two wells a year because of the
hIgh cost of brIngIng water to that entIre area.
The City Is being told to enact ordinances relative to a buffer zone
and methane gas barrIers. Mayor Orttel stated he has asked for proof
that there Is a methane gas problem; and he Is being told that there
Is none. He questIoned the rIsk of enactIng an ordInance when there Is
evidence showIng somethIng to the contrary. If the CIty Is going to be
requIred to enact such an ordInance. the Counc II agreed to ask that
the CIty be held harmless and Indemlfled by the WDE Group If any
lawsuIt Is fIled or supply the technIcal support to enforce the
ordInance If It Is challenged.
Mayor Orttel also noted the Consent Decree uses the facIlity boundary
rather than the toe of the landfIll. whIch will also affect any buffer
zones or vapor barrIers that may be requIred. By usIng the facilIty
boundary. the buffer zones encompass a consIderable dIstance. The
Council's posItIon was the toe of the landfIll should be used.
No other Issues In the letter were dIscussed. Attorney HawkIns stated
he wI II forward the CouncIl's posItIon tomorrow morning.
NON-DISCUSSION ITEMS
MOTION by Jacobson. Seconded by SmIth. the fOllowIng Items on the
Agenda for June 4 be adopted as presented:
Item 9. ResolutIon R079-91 - Resolutlon/Anoka County RIfle Range
Item 10. AppoInt Tree CommIssIon
Item 13, Resolution R080-91 - Amend ResolutIon Accepting Old
Constance Boulevard
Item 15, Approye Kennel LIcense Renewal/Penelope PrIor
Item 17. Award BId/RecyclIng BuIldIng. Concrete Apron to low
bIdder. Mark D. Olson. $676
Item 18. Goodwill Contract CancellatIon
Item 21, ResolutIon R081-91 - Receive FeasibilIty Report/IP91-12/
Red Oaks Water excludIng the public
hearing.
Motion carrIed on a 4-Yes. l-Absent (Perry) vote.
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ReguJar CIty CouncIl MeetIng
MInutes - June 4. 1991
Page 15
LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX
CouncIl agreed to table the Item untIl they have had a chance to study
It further.
ADOPT POLICY/INTEREST ON ESCROWS
Mr. KoolIck b~Iefly reylewed the background of payIng Interest on
escrow accounts at the passbook rate. If the Council wIshes to
contInue doIng so. he requested It be made a formal polIcy.
MOTION by McKelvey, Seconded by smith, that the City pay Interest on
the escrows at the passbook rate being paId by the bank durIng the
tIme period at which the City held the funds. Motion carried
unanImously.
CROOKED LAKE EURASIAN MILFOIL MANAGEMENT
Councllmember smIth reported varIous groups have met to dIscuss the
Eruaslan Mllfoll problem on Crooked Lake. The recommendatIon from the
DNR Is to treat the entire lake now for a cost of $10.000 to $15.000.
and more treatments will be needed. The Crooked Lake AssocIatIon Is
lookIng for support from the CIty of Andover.
Jerry Plchè. President of the Crooked Lake AssocIatIon - explaIned
there are a number of groups that need to coo~dInate a plan to keep
the lake as fully recreatIonal as possible. There Is a meetIng
scheduled for next Tuesday at the Coon RapIds City Hall. and they are
lookIng for the CIty's support.
Councllmember smIth agreed to serve as the City's ~ep~esentatIve In
thIs matter. It was suggested that Mr. Haas. Assistant City
Engineer. also attend the meeting. CouncIl agreed.
APPROVE TEMPORARY NON-INTOXICATING LIQUOR LICENSE/LIONS CLUB
MOTION by McKelvey. Seconded by smIth. that we Issue the lIcense to
the Andover LIons for Andover Day. July 20. Motion carried on a
3-Yes. I-No (Jacobson). l-Absent <Perry) vote.
APPROVE FINAL PLAT/CREEK VIEW CROSSING
CouncIlmember Jacobson questIoned whethe~ some areas should be shown
as exceptIons or as parks. He also questioned the silver of land
above Lot 15.
Regular City Council Meeting
MInutes - June 4, 1991
Page 16
<Approve Final Plat/Creek View Crossing. Continued)
Tony Emmerich - explained the City already holds the exception noted
on the plat because It was deeded In the fIrst phase as a part of the
total park dedication. The silver above Lot 15 Is the walkway to the
park. The one area Is shown as an outlot because the sewe~ runs
through It. Mr. Schrantz stated an outlot can be used for other things
as well. Outlot A Is so labeled but wIll become a part of the next
plat.
MOTION by Smith. Seconded by McKelvey. the Resolution as written for
the final plat of Creek View Crossing. <See Resolution R082-91)
Motion car~led on a 4-Yes. l-Absent <Perry) vote.
AWARD BID/CREEK VIEW CROSSING/IP91-2
MOTION by Smith, Seconded by Jacobson. the Resolution accepting the
low bId and awarding the contract for the Improvement project 91-2 for
sanItary sewer. watermaln. streets and storm drain for Creek View
Crossing. <See ResolutIon R083-91. awarded to C. W. Houle. Inc. . for
$509.214.91) Motion ca~rled on a 4-Yes. l-Absent (Perry) vote.
FINAL PAYMENT/IP90-6
MOTION by Jacobson. Seconded by Smith. a Resolution acceptIng work
and directing fInal payment to Ro-So Cont~actlng for Project 90-6 for
the Improvement of watermaln and sanitary sewer for Lot 1. Watt's
Garden Acres <See Resolution R084-91) MotIon carried on a 4-Yes.
1-Absent <Perry) vote.
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
MOTION by Smith. Seconded by McKelvey. that we approve Bills and
Disbursements In the amount of $193.324.33 as of thIs date. Motion
carried on a 4-Yes. l-Absent <Perry) vote.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL INPUT
Councl] agreed that future meetings should be adjourned no later than
11:00 or 11130 p.m.
MOTION by Jacobson. Seconded by Smith. to adjourn. Motion carried
on a 4-Yes. l-Absent <Perry) vote. MeetIng adjourned at 12:43 a.m.
~RespectfullY ~bmltte~
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Ma cella A. Peach. Recording Secretary
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