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Regular City Council Meeting-January 15, 1991
1:30 P.M. Call to Order
Resident Forum
Agenda Approval
Approval of Minutes
Discussion Items
1. Public Hearing/90-24/Creekridge Estates/
street Lights
2. Approve Junkyard License/Commercial Auto Parts
3. Clemens Corner Sketch plan
4. Nedegaard Construction Site Plan Concept
5. Traffic Signal Discussion
Board of
Adjustment 6. Genthon ponds/DNR Flood Hazard Response Letter
1. Special Committees, Disc.
Staff, Committee, Commissions
8. Grace Lutheran Church Assessment Discussion
9. Schedule Board of Review
10. Underground Storage Tank Update
11. Approve 1991 Kennel License/Hobnail Dalmatians
12. Approve Consultant/Kelsey Round Lake Park
BRA Mtg. 13. Award Bids/Buildings
Non-Discussion Items
14. Release Escrow/Indian Meadows II, III
Approval of Claims
Adjourn
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~1j') CITY of ANDOVER
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':\,:1 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - JANUARY 15. 1991
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The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called
to oede. by Mayoe Ken OrtteJ on Januaey 15, 1991; 7:30 p.m.. at the
Andover City Hal I, 1685 Ceosstown Boulevaed NW, Andovee, MInnesota.
Councilmembers present: Jacobson, McKelvey, Perry
CounciJmembers absent: None
Also present: City Attoeney, William G. Hawkins; City
Planner, DavId Car]beeg¡ City Finance
DI.ector, Howa.d Koolick: Assistant City
Engineer, Todd Haas: Administrator/EngIneer,
James Schrantz; and others
RESIDENT FORUM
Mayo. Orttel read a letter into the record from Winslow Holasek asking
toe help with snowmobiles crossing his fields and damaging his ceops.
Mr. Holasek also enclosed photographs showing the damage. Mayor
Orttel stated he has heaed of other complaints ot snowmobiles tram
residents in the eastern pa.t of the City. He agreed to ask the
Deputies tor strlcte. ento.cement at the oedlnance. Attorney Hawkins
stated this Is a difticult probJem to enfoece. An individual deiver
has to be charged, not merely the owne. at the vehicle. He though t
the Sherlft's Department had a snowmobile that could be used tor
entorcement. Mayor Orttel stated he will check into It.
AGENDA APPROVAL
Mayor Orttel requested the addition of Item 15, Meeting for
Interviewing Process, and Item 16, Waste DIsposal Site Progress
Report. Councilmember Jacobson stated he had asked that the issue ot
overnights for Rescue and Firefighters be on the Agenda. Since It Is
not, he asked that It be at the next meeting oe relatively soon. Mayoe
Orttel stated he had asked the Fiee Depaetment to come before the
Counc i ] when they were ready but before anything Is started. He then
agreed that the item should be placed on the Agenda well in advance at
when the Fire Department wi] I start something, though no specific date
was given.
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by Jacobson, to appeove the Agenda as
amended. Motion carried unanimously.
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Regular City Council Meet! ng
Minutes - Januaey 15, 1991
Page 2
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Januaey 2, 1991: Correct as written.
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by McKelvey, approval of the January 2,
1991 Minutes. Motion carried unanimousIy.
PUBLIC HEARING/IP90-24/CREEKRIDGE ESTATES/STREET LIGHTS
Mayor Orttel called the public hearing to order at 7:39 p.m. Mr. Haas
reviewed the proposed project, noting the petition of 51 In favor, 11
against, and 10 residents unavailable.
Lvnnette Bauers. 14570 NW Jonqui I Steeet - asked what happens If
they do not want the light near their house, as she didn't want one in
front of hee house as shown. Mr. Haas explained the policy for the
placement of lIghts of one per every 300 teet in the urban area
located as cIose to a box as possible. Any change from that policy Is
a Council decision.
Don Bauers - noted the proposed light on the north end of Jonquil Is
in the middle at his lot and will shine into his bedroom. There
alreadY Is a light on Jonquil and Round Lake Boulevard, and he
wondered if the one proposed in tront ot his lot could be eliminated.
There was some discussion eegarding the possibi1ity of moving that
light to the west side of Jonquil at the end of the urban lots, the
north lot line at 14536 Jonquil. Mr. Haas noted that will add some
cost to the project, but the distance requirements between lights
would stili be within the po1icy. It that light were completely
el imlnated, the distance between Round Lake Boulevard and the flest
light on Jonquil would be about SOO feet. Mayor Orttel questioned the
legality of charging for lights it the City's policy is violated in
terms of distance between lights. Attorney Hawkins didn't think there
would be an argument at benefit. It Is a billing, not a 429
assessment.
Mr. Bauers - asked how many other private estates have their own
street lights in Andover. Mr. Haas estimated at least twenty: and
they all pay for their own lighting.
Ron Eelckson. 3065 South Coon Creek Drive - thought the distance
along South Coon Creek Drive east at Jonquil is mace than 600 feet.
He thought a light should be near the bend and bridge along that road,
especially because of all the parties by the bridge and graftitl
always being painted on It. Mr. Haas pointed out the specitic
development of Ceeekridge Estates. The reason he didn't put a light
by the bridge Is because there isn't anyone in that area. It wou I d
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Regular City Council Meeting
Minutes - January 15, 1991
Page 3
(Public Hearing/IP90-24/Creekrldge Estates/Street Lights, Continued)
add to the costs of those In Creekrldge Estates. He thought there is
a box to the west of the c~eek on the north side of the road. The
Ci ty park Is in that aeea; however, the City's hasn't been picking up
the costs of steeet lighting.
Discussion was on the possibility of asking the Woodland Golf Couese
to pay tor a light in that aeea, as it would light the entrance to the
goJf course. Mr. Haas ageeed to pursue that furthee with the owner ot
WoodJand Galt course.
A resident asked about the costs to them. Me. Haas eeviewed the
calculations, estimating a cost of $40.44 per year per lot. Atter
five years, the cost would drop about a $1 per month because the
installation costs will be paid off. The billing will be included
with their quarterlY utility billing of sewer and water. Mr. Haas
also pointed out the style is standard tor all subdivisions. The
Installation Is p~oposed to be done In the spring.
Discussion eeturned to the northerly I ight on Jonqui I.
Mrs. Bauee - stated the light would stilJ be a peoblem with light
shining In her bedroom if it is moved to their south lot J Ine as
suggested. She said they do not want the Jlght at all; however,
rather than move It to their south lot line, she asked that It remain
as originally proposed (between Lots 16 and 17). Counc II ageeed.
No one came foeward to change their vote on the proposed project.
Counc i I also desired to have the additional light installed along
South Coon Creek D~ive west at the bridge, again directing Mr. Haas to
talk with the owner at the gait couese about his paying for the
installation cost at that light. The user costs would be borne by
those In Ceeekeidge Estates, though it would have a minimal impact on
them.
Me. Bauer - asked if the property ownees by the creek received
benefit and would be charged. Mayo~ OetteJ doubted it would benefit
them. The City Jights its own parks, and it is a good idea to light
the bridge area along South Coon Creek Drive.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, to close the public heaelng.
Motion ca~ried unanimously.
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by Jacobson, a Resolution ordering the
improvement of st~eet lighting, Project No. 90-24, in the Creekrldge
Estates Subdivision, including the eleventh light in the approximate
location of the bridge on South Coon Creek Drive. (See Resolution
R010-91) Motion careied unanimously. Hearing closed at S:OS p.m.
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Regular City Counci] Meeting
Minutes - January 15, 1991
Page 4
APPROVE JUNKYARD LICENSE/COMMERCIAL AUTO PARTS
Mr. Carlberg recommended appeoval at the II cense renewa I . There was
one violation of piled tires at his last Inspection: however, he has
been assured it Is taken ca~e at. He wi 11 be Inspecting all
junkyaeds again In Jate Febeuaey.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by McKelvey, approval at the 1991
Junkyard License foe Commercial Auto Parts. Motion carried
unanimously.
Counc i 1 discussed the possibility of having a geaduated fee schedule
for ]ate applIcations. A suggestIon was to add $50 to the permit fee
for every 15 or 30 days it Is late. Attorney Hawkins stated such a
schedule is legal, but should be tied to the costs to the City for
additional Inspections, etc. Counc i I asked the Staff to research
that fuether and make a recommendation so any changes can be made
prior to license eenewals to~ 1992.
CLEMENS CORNER SKETCH PLAN
Mr. Haas reviewed the proposed sketch plan for Clemens Corner for a
Brooks Food Maeket located at the inteesectlon at Hanson and Bunker
Lake Boulevards and summarized the concerns of the Andover Review
Committee. One of the concerns is the Ingeess/egress from the county
roads. The county plans to eventually put In a median on Hanson north
at the intersection, whIch would leave only one full access at 138th
Lane. Foe now, they wi 11 havetuJJ access at the northwest and
southeast p~operty I ines at Lot 1. Me. Haas noted the storm dealnage
will have to be studied, estimating about four acre feet wi II be
needed to satlsty the drainage requleement for that entire aeea.
LoweJ I WaQner. PresIdent of Waoner Company - explained they wi I I
only be developing Phase I for now, the 2-acre Brooks Food Maeket
site. They proposed to pJat Lot 1, wi th the remaIning aeea as an
outlot. They don't know what will happen on the outlot; what Is being
provided Is only a concept plan. What is important Is that as the
paecel develops and the county impeoves their roadways, that the
Brooks site have access to the full tuen intersection. They are
proposing a easement 40 to 50 teet from the street easement to aJ low
for future development of an access along there.
Mr. Wagnee stated they have agreed to study the entice drainage system
now to make sure it is adequate for future development. The Army
Corps of Engineers has given them permIssion to filJ the low areas on
the site. The peoposed car wash is tor a one-car drive through. He
errored in telling the Planning Commission that the cars wi I J be
stacking in the front. They wi I I be going theough the car wash from
east to west, so the stacking will be behind the building
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ReguJar City Council Meeting
Minutes - January 15, 1991
Page 5
(Clemens Coener Sketch Plan, Continued)
Jim Hanson. Commercial Sites of Minnesota - believed a full-service
car wash is permitted on that corner. They ace trying to accomplish a
less than full-seevlce car wash. Councilmember Jacobson asked that
allowance be made for a propane tank so it can be done correctly.
Mr. Wagnee stated he will look into that turther. Counc I ) had no
turther comments. The item Is to proceed through the Planning
COmmission and Andover Review Committee.
NEDEGAARD CONSTRUCTION SITE PLAN CONCEPT
Bruce Nedegaard peesented an updated site plan for 138 single-family
residential Jots on a 52-acre parcel along the southwest shore at
Round Lake. The size at the Jots average 70 x 130 teet, and they are
asking for five-toot setbacks on the sides. They ace proposing a road
to the southeast to tie into 143rd Avenue to provide another access to
the plat. He explained it is being proposed as density deveJopment
because of the large amount at lowland on the property. Some of the
lots ace 370 to 400 feet deep.
Councilmember Jacobson did not like the density zoning concept,
feeling in the end the deveJopment ends up looking crowded and
conjested. It would be ditfeeent If it were higher-density zoning
with green spaces around. Councilmember Perry stated she did not care
for the density zoning concept either. Mr. Carlberg explained one
could get about 130 Jots on 52 acres. There are quite a few larger
lots, but most are somewhat smaller with sma I lee setbacks.
Mr. Nedegaard stated he is meeting with the neighborhood group in a
week eegaedlng his peoposal. He has a 30-day option on the property,
so he needs direction tram the City regarding the proposal.
Mayor Orttel stated this Is a unique piece at propeety with a unique
history. The biggest issue left is whether sanitary sewee is
avalJable. He asked If theee Is a willingness to look at some
alternative use tor the property.
Mr. CarJberg also noted theee will be a new Shore Land Ordinance which
wi II be more restrictive about what happens all around the lake. The
area along the lake shown in this site plan is basicaJly wetland.
Councilmember McKelvey noted that no park dedication is being
proposed, thinking it would be better to get some park dedication
along the lake, which aJso reduces the number of housing. He too
thought the densi ty is too much. There was some discussion about a
park abutting the lake, though no consensus was reached.
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Regular City Council Meeting
Minutes - January 15, 1991
Page 6
(Nedegaard Construction SIte Plan Concept, Continued)
Mayor Orttel asked about the possibility of developing the property
Into one-acre lots whIch was done In Oak Blutt and Ivywood Estates. It
would then be a permanent development wIthout municipal sewee and
water. Attorney Hawkins noted at thIs point, Metropolitan CounclJ
appeoval is not needed tor non-sewered plats. Mr. Nedegaard stated he
had not studied that option but is willing to do so, statIng that FHA
approval would not be needed toe one-acre lots eIther.
Peter Rauen. 4110 147th - prefereed to see PUD concept used In terms
of reducing the density. WI th all the wetland area to the south of
this, he wondered If something could be done to pull In the whole area
to determine a density that would be acceptable to the MetropolItan
Council. He felt homes on one-acre Jots would gIve a eeasonable
average density as a PUD, would be more acceptable to the
neighborhood, and eliminates the sanitary sewer Issue.
It was agreed that Mr. Nedegaard w 11 I investIgate the possibilIty at
developIng the paecel Into a permanent non-sewered single-famIly
deveJoment at one-acre lots and present both concepts to the
neighborhood group. Because of the time constraints, it was agreed to
add the Item to the February 5 regular Council meeting foe fuether
discussion.
TRAFFIC SIGNAL DISCUSSION
Mayor Orttel noted the bid for signalling the intersection of Round
Lake Boulevard and 157th Avenue west was tor $30,025, or about $13,200
less than originally estimated. The Counc i I had previously decided
not to light that Intersection, feelIng 1 t Is not necessaey and not
wantIng to spend addItional funds.
Councllmember Perry noted her observatIons of that Intersection and
found very few problems. Councllmember Jacobson did not wish to
commit the funds at this time.
Don Brown - stated he II ves north of that aeea and has also observed
never more than four cars waiting durIng rush houe east bound. The
only problem is when traffic has to turn north onto CoRd 9 tram CoRd
20, but it has been somewhat allevIated by the semaphore on 161st. He
didn't see a need for a lIght at that intersectIon.
No Counc II action was taken, the consensus being that a sIgnal Is not
needed at that Intersection at this time.
Regular City Counci1 Meeting
Minutes - Januaey 15, 1991
Page 7
GENTHON PONDS/DNR FLOOD HAZARD RESPONSE LETTER
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by McKelvey, a Resolution approving the
exact boundaries of the General Flood Plain boundaries foe the Genthon
Ponds Addition, as presented with one change. the second WHEREAS to
read, "WHEREAS, the 100 year flood elevation established Is 903.0
feet;", delete everything after that point and continue on with NOW,
THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED. (See Resolution R011-91) Motion carried
unanimous1y.
SPECIAL COMMITTEES DISCUSSION
Mayor OrtteJ stated he is not yet prepared to recommend any
appointments until there is a fu I I Counci I. He agreed with the Staff
comments of retaining the Hazardous Waste Committee and to create a
sepaeate Tree Commission and/oe Environmental Committee because of the
diversitlcation at the issues. He felt an Environmental COmmittee
could handle issues such as the geese desteoying the golf course,
which has again been brought to his attention. Mayor Orttel noted he
also suggested a Communications Committee be estab1ished to look for
better means of communicating between the City and the residents.
It was agreed the item will be discussed at a future wack session.
Mayor Orttel also reported Melanie DeLuca, Community School
Coordlnatoe, has been investigatIng the posslbl]lty of Joining the
City'S officIal newsletter with the Andover Express. Ms. DeLuca had
copies of what It may look like, that the City and School wou]d
purchase several pages at the Andovee Express for exclusive use. They
wouJd have total editorial and layout control, but there are pros and
cons toe doing this. It was agreed that she would ]ook into the item
turther and come back to the Council with a eecommendation in the near
tuture.
Counc i I recessed at 9:07; reconvened at 9:15 p.m.
GRACE LUTHERAN CHURCH ASSESSMENT DISCUSSION
Mr. Koolick gave a brief backgeound reJating to the unpaid assessments
of Geace Lutheran Church. The Church has made a proposa] to pay two
years' worth at assessments every year until 1994, at which time they
would be cuerent. Thele assessments amount to about $7,000 per year.
This year the Church paid about 1 1/2 year's woeth of assessments that
were in arrears. The alternative to accepting the peoposal is to
certity to their taxes, which may cause the proeprty to go tax
, torfelt.
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Regular City Council Meeting
Minutes - January 15, 1991
Page 8
(Grace Lutheran Church Assessment Discussion, Continued)
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by McKelvey, directing Howaed Koollck to
write to Grace Lutheran Chuech accepting their proposal and Including
a paragraph which indicates if their financial status changes and they
ace able to accelerate the payment, the City would certainly
appreciate It. Motion carried unanimously.
SCHEDULE BOARD OF REVIEW
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, that the Board of Review be
held on April 4 at 7:30 in the Council Chambers. Motion carried
unanImously.
UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANK UPDATE
Frank Stone, Public Works Supervisor, explained no leak was tound In
the old tank, so the contamination must have been feom oveetlows.
About 70 yards of contaminated soil was eemoved. The PCA is requiring
the City to do additional testing of the geoundwater; however, 90
percent of the funds tor that testing Is recoverable tram the Petro
Fund of the MPCA if PCA requirements are met. The total cost is about
$15,000. The City has 30 days In which to tel I the PCA what is going
to be done to qualify tor the tunds.
Mr. Carlberg also stated they thought there was a Special Use Permit
on the old tank, but there was not. They are now In the process of
obtaining a SUP, which Is eequired for a liquid storage underground
tank.
Council asked Staff to recommend a consulting firm to do the testing
and to make a recommendation at the February 5 Council meeting.
APPROVE 1991 KENNEL LICENSE/HOBNAIL DALMATIONS
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by McKelvey, renewal of the kennel
license for Hobnail Dalmatians at 16326 Verdin Street NW for 1991.
Motion caeried unanimously.
APPROVE CONSULTANT/KELSEY-ROUND LAKE PARK
Park and Recreation Commission Chairperson Jett Kieffer asked if the
Council Is still in suppoet of Impeoving the Kelsey-Round Lake Pack.
They must show some progeess In development of the park to meet the
terms of the LAWCON geant and to contInue receIving grant funding for
1992. They are looking at applying tor a $120,000 matching grant over
Regular City Council Meeting
Minutes - January 15, 1991
Page 9
(Approve Consultant/Kelsey-Round Lake Park, Continued)
a three-year perIod. It would cost the City $20,000 each year. They
could take a loan trom the General Fund and pay It back in 1992 or use
their pack dedication tees.
Chairperson Klefter stated the intent of the Park Board is to develop
Kelsey-Round Lake as a passive park and keep all of the sports
activities In the vicinity of the City Hall. He asked for approval to
hi~e a consultant to design Kelsey Pack and to help with the grant
process. They ace looking for an agressive schedule tor geant
appJication.
Counc I I recommended the Park Board make a recommendation at the
February 5 meetIng as to whIch consultant they would prefer.
Discussion was also on the main entrance tor the Kelsey-Round Lake
Park. The Park Board is Investigating the possibility of having the
main entrance from CoRd 20 (157th Avenue). The property is currently
owned by New Generation Homes. Attoeney Hawkins noted that according
to the ordinance, a plat is void it it is not filed within six months
tollowing approval of the preliminary plat.
Counc i I felt it would be beneticia] to have the main enteance otf of a
county road and asked that the Statf and Pack Board contInue to wo~k
on that proposa].
The Counc II eecessed to hold an HRA meeting, 9:43; eeconvened at 9:45
p.m.
RELEASE ESCROW/INDIAN MEADOWS II. III
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by McKelvey, that the City Counci]
release the escrow for Indian Meadows Third Addition, with the deduct
taken for Indian Meadows Second Addition plus inteeest for a totaJ
amount to be eeleased in the amount of $4,340.97. Mati on care i ed
unanimously.
MEETING FOR INTERVIEW PROCESS
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, to start the meeting at the
17th at 6 o'clock to interview City Council candidates only, and
meet on Tuesday, Januaey 29 at 7:30 for Park Board and Planning and
Zoning applicants. Motion carried unanimously.
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Regulae City Council Meeting
Minutes - January 15, 1991
Page 10
WASTE DISPOSAL SITE PROGRESS REPORT/MAYOR
Mayor Orttel reported there are many unsettJed Issues between the
governmental agencies Involved in the remedial process of the Waste
Disposal Engineering Site. Appaeently the document was heJd for
several months and now there are new concerns, but he didn't believe
the issues of the City have changed much. There Is an issue of
whether the City owns a part of the landfill because the county did
not register the easement they accepted along Hanson Boulevard. They
are also asking for a prohibition of al] new weJls into the lower sand
acqulfer around the WDE site. The Mayor thought there would be a
provision to allow the redri] ling of any wells that tail. He also
thought the Issue should be addressed of allowing those along Andover
Boulevard who now have shallow sand acqulfee wells to put in deeper
wells.
Mayoe Orttel noted the main concerns of the City are what methane
control will be required around the peeimeter at the landfill, what
condition they wlJI leave the property in, and the use of the peopeety
southeast of the landfill, as they wouJd pee fer It be cOmmerclaJ
rathee than residential.
Mayor OrtteJ also suggested that the Agenda Include an item at "Mayoe
and Counc i I Input" under which these types at repoets can be given.
AGENDA APPROVAL
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, the Claims as presented by
Staff In the amount at $819,059.28 with one exception, that under the
Item of Anoka Electric Billing tor 14800 Prairie Knol I Road, service
for $330.25, that It be checked tor accuracy before being paid.
DISCUSSION: Mr. Koolick stated he will investigate that further
before It Is paid. Motion careied unanimously.
NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIALS CONFERENCE
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Oettel, that we authorize any of the
new Council who wish to attend the February 2 Newly Elected Otficlals
Conference In MinneapoJis to do so, the cost of the conference to be
reimbursed. Motion careled unanimously.
MOTION by McKelvey, Seconded by Perry, to adjourn. Motion carried
unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 10:10 p.m.
Respectfully submitted, '
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