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~ CITY of ANDOVER
Regular City Council Meeting-August 6, 1991
7:30 P.M. Call to Order
Resident Forum
Agenda Approval
Approval of Minutes
Discussion Items
1. Lower Rum River Watershed Public Hearing
2. Vacation of Easement Public Hearing/16094 -
7th Avenue
3. Public Hearing/16Bth Lane N.W./91-14
4. Public Hearing/Kelsey-Round Lake Park
5. Kelsey Estates Discussion
6 . Crosstown Blvd/Rural or Urban
7. Order Street Light/142nd Ln. & Round Lake Blvd.
staff, Committee, Commission
B. Exercise Option/Ricoh Copier
9. Lawful Gambling Ordinance
10. Approve Gambling permit/Fire Fighters Relief
Assn.
II. Public Works Building Repair
12. Cable TV Public Address System Discussion
13. Approve Red Cross Agreement
14. Unresolved Issues/Creek View Crossing
15. Amend Fee Schedule
Non-Discussion Items
16. Schedule Special Meeting w/Comp. plan Task
Force
17. Accept Feasibility/91-21/Smith's Green Acres
lB. Approve Final Plat/Olesen's 2nd Addition
19. Approve No parking Resolution/91-l4
20. Reduction of Escrow/Hills of Bunker 1st
Mayor/Council Input
Approval of Claims
Adjournment
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REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - AUGUST 6. 1991
TABLE OF CONTENTS
RESIDENT FORUM . . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 1
AGENDA APPROVAL . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 2
APPROVAL OF MINUTES · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 3
LOWER RUM RIVER WATERSHED PUBLIC HEARING . · · · · · · · · · · · · 3
Motion to approve Ordinance estabJlshlng LRRWM Tax District · · 4
VACATION OF EASEMENT PUBLIC HEARING/16094 SEVENTH AVENUE
Resolution R114-91 approving vacation · · · · · · · · · · · · · 4
PUBLIC HEARING/168TH LANE NW/IP91-14 . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 4
Resolution R115-91 orderIng the Improvement · · · · · · · · · · 6
PUBLIC HEARING/KELSEY-ROUND LAKE PARK · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 7
Resolution R116-91 authorization to apply for grant · · · · · · 8
KELSEY ESTATES DISCUSSION · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 8
CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD/RURAL OR URBAN . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 9
PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING REPAIR
ResolutIon R117-91 for funds to come from PIR Fund · · · · · · 9
ORDER STREET LIGHT/142ND LANE AND ROUND LAKE BOULEVARD . · · · · · 9
EXERCISE OPTION/RICOH COPIER . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 10
LAWFUL GAMBLING ORDINANCE · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 10
Motion to deny JawfuJ gambling In city/fails · · · · · · · · · 10
GAMBLING PERMIT/FIRE FIGHTERS' RELIEF ASSOCIATION · · · · · · · · 10
CABLE TV PUBLIC ADDRESS SYSTEM DISCUSSION
ResolutIon R118-91 for $2.900 from PIR fund. · · · · · · · · · 10
APPROVE RED CROSS AGREEMENT · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 11
UNRESOLVED ISSUES/CREEK VIEW CROSSING · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 11
NON-DISCUSSION ITEMS
Resolution R119-91 to amend fee schedule · · · · · · · · · · · 12
Schedule September 12. SpecIal Meetlng/Comp Plan Task Force. · 12
Informational Item/Feasibility. IP91-21 · · · · · · · · · · · · 12
ResolutIon R120-91 to approve No Parking on 168th Lane · · · · 12
Reduction of Escrow to HllJs of Bunker · · · · · · · · · · · · 12
COON CREEK WATERSHED ACTIVITIES · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 12
APPROVE FINAL PLAT/OLESEN'S 2ND ADDITION
Resolution R121-91 approving plat · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 13
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APPROVAL OF CLAIMS . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 13
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
Letter regarding action against Padula · · · · · · · · · · · · 13
Motion to adjourn · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 13
Motion to reconvene · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 14
CHANGE ORDER NO. 4/FIRE STATIONS . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 14
ADJOURNMENT . . . . · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 14
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~ CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - AUGUST 6. 1991
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover CIty CouncIl was cal ]ed
to order by Mayor Ken Orttel on August 6, 1991. 7:30 p.m., at at the
Andover CIty Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW. Andover. MInnesota.
Councilmembers present: Jacobson. McKelvey, Perry
Councilmember absent: Smi th
Also present: City Attorney. William G. Hawkins: CI ty
Planner. David Car]berg; City Finance
Director, Howard KoolIck: CIty AdmInIstrator,
James Schrantz: and others
RESIDENT FORUM
Robert Demskv. 2421 177th Lane NW - received a letter from Ms.
Bosell, CIty Zoning AdminIstrator, asking them to get rid of their
chickens cIting the ordinance requires them to have five acres to keep
any kind of poultry. They have three acres In Hawk Ridge. They no
]onger have chickens; but their children have a few ducks as pets plus
some wild mallards have been In their yard. They would like to keep
the ducks. Apparently someone complained about the plastic over the
window of the o]d fish house they used for the chickens. The plastic
has been removed. the yard has been cleaned, and the fish house has
been painted. Mr. Carlberg explained the ordinance definition of
domestic animals does not I nc I ude ducks. and only domestic animals are
a I lowed on lots under five acres.
Mr. Demskv - argued many of the neighbors have ducks and chickens,
that ducks can be purchased in a pet store, and that the chl]dren care
for the ducks as a hobby. They do not sel I them. and their wings are
clipped so they do not fly around. Mayor Orttel thought the intent of
the ordinance was to prohibit those types of things from occurring on
the relatively small lots. It didn't make sense to him that three
horses are allowed on 2 1/2 acres but a few pet ducks are not al lowed.
Mrs. Demsky - stated when they moved to the area, they called CI ty
Hal I and were told they could have ducks and chickens as ]ong as they
were kept in a confined area. Now they are being told that In order
to have five or sIx ducks, they have to come to the Council.
Councilmember Perry felt the intent was to protect neIghbors from an
intense use that Is goIng to be offensive. She did not find two or
three ducks on a three-acre parce] offensl ve.
The Counc i I then suggested it may be reasonable to change the
ordinance to llml t the number of ducks and chickens per acre In the
rural area. They also questioned the definitIon of a pet as being able
to be purchased in a pet store. not wanting wlJd animals to be brought
into the City. They dIrected the Issue to the Planning Commission and
recommended Staff take no action on the complaint against the Demsky's
unt i I the Planning CommissIon has made its recommendation.
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Regular City Council Meeting
Minutes - August 6. 1991
Page 2
(ResIdent Forum. Continued)
Robert Padula. 4630 173rd Avenue - receIved a certified letter from
Ms. Bosell requiring hIm to cease the raisIng of sheep on hIs father's
property. It Is 25 contiguous acres and they have been farmIng the
Jand since before Andover was a City. It Is taxed as agrIcultural.
plus they have a federal number for ag purposes. Mr. Carlberg stated
there was a complaInt about the odor from the sheep. He questioned
that becaue of all the farm animals, sheep are probably the least
offensIve. The problem Is the land Is zoned R-2 which does not al]ow
rural agricultural activities. If Mr. Padu]a can prove sheep were
raised on the property prIor to 1971. the actIvIty would be
grandparented and would be al lowed to continue by Special Use Permit.
The problem Councilmember Perry had with it Is the R-2 zone Is no
longer an active zonIng distrIct. But she has learned there are
problems to rezonIng It to R-1. She didn't thInk the Special Use
Permit process by Mr. Padula was appropriate since farming Is their
occupation and because the Comprehensive Plan stresses the Importance
of agricultural activities and maintaining the rural character of the
City. She thought the rea] problem Is the land is Inappropriate]y
zoned. Mayor Orttel said there was some discussion to rezone al I the
R-2 and R-3 areas to R-1 but It was not done because then a dog kennel
wou]d be allowed In those areas. He thought It may be posslb]e to
rezone the areas to R-1 but restrIct dog kenne]s to parcels over a
specIfIc sIze.
After further discussIon. It was agreed to forward the matter to the
Planning Commission to consIder rezoning either the undeveloped land
in this district or al I R-2 areas to R-1. They may also want to look
at the R-3 zones and determine the ramIfications of changing aJI zones
to R-1. The Counc II also asked that no further action be taken
agaInst the Padula complaint until the PlannIng CommIssIon has made
its recommendation. This Councl I directIve was again noted at the end
of the meeting at Mr. Padu]a's request.
AGENDA APPROVAL
Counc II agreed to add Item 15a, Coon Creek Watershed ActIvIties.
MOTION by Jacobson. Seconded by Perry, approve the Agenda as
amended. MotIon carrIed on a 4-Yes. 1-Absent (SmIth) vote.
MOTION by Jacobson. Seconded by Perry. to automatIcally adjourn the
Counc I ] meeting at 11 o'clock unless there Is unanImous approval to
con tI nue. DISCUSSION: Councllmember Jacobson stated thIs wou]d be
for thIs evening's meeting only. MotIon carried on a 4-Yes, 1-Absent
(Smi th) vote.
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Regular City Council Meeting
Minutes - August 6. 1991
Page 3
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Ju1y 16, 1991 : Correct as written.
MOTION by Perry. Seconded by McKelvey. approve the July 16. 1991,
Minutes as written. Motion carried on a 3-Yes, 1-Present (Jacobson).
1-Absent <Smi th) vote.
LOWER RUM RIVER WATERSHED PUBLIC HEARING
Mayor OrtteJ called the hearIng to order at 8:02 p.m. Mr. Schrantz
reviewed the proposed taxing district for the LRRWMO which would
coJ J ect the cost of operatIng the organIzation from the benefitting
properties. To date those costs have been borne by all residents In
Andover out of the Genera I Fund. Andover's budget for the LRRWMO for
1990 is $12,000. The CIty wouJd be split about 60/40 between the
LRRWMO and the Coon Creek Watershed District.
The hearing was then opened to pubJIc testimony.
Rose1Ja Sonstebv - asked how many acres are involved. Staff
estImated about 20.000 acres.
Ms. Sonstebv - stated In her lawsuit against the CIty. the City
showed that she Is getting ground water from St. Francis and Oak
Grove. She wondered why they aren't IncJuded. Mayor Ortte I explained
the organizatIon of the LRRWMO. the taxing distrIct. and the City's
responsIbilItIes. St. Francis and oak Grove are In another taxIng
district.
Ms. SonstebY - stated Round Lake had an outlet going north to the
Rum River, askIng If that is going to be opened up agaIn. Mayor
Orttel stated no projects are beIng planned. and the OrganizatIon wIll
never do any work on the rIver I tseJ f. The LRRWMO wi I I be revIewIng
development plats. monitoring water quality from draInage projects,
etc. There are no p]ans to do any reconstructIon or construction of
ditches.
Ms. SonstebY - thought every lake Is supposed to have an outlet.
She also understood that In 1987 there were 18 houses that were
dumpIng over one mIllIon gallons of water Into Round Lake without
permits wIth their geothermal heating systems. She asked If anything
was done about that. Mayor OrtteJ stated they are now required to
have a rock base to perculate to the groundwater.
Ms. SonstebY - reviewed some of the Items noted at her trIal
regarding the flow of water on her Jand. whIch the City ca1ls Dehn's
Pond. The City deJlberately videotaped the flow of water to show that
it was comIng from Round Lake. whIch she felt was underhanded,
alleging that culvert had nothIng to do with the particular Good Value
project involved in the case.
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Regular CIty Council Meeting
Minutes - August 6, 1991
Page 4
(Lower Rum RIver Watershed Public HearIng. Continued)
Mr. Koolick exp]ained the taxing dIstrIct wIll have no effect on the
City's budget. The dIstrict should be payable on the 1992 taxes. The
budget amounts to about 31 cents per acre In 1992.
IrwIn Russell. 16850 ArGon Street - asked what area Is covered by
the district. Mr. Schrantz revIewed the area on the Andover map.
Ms. SonstebY - didn't understand why she should be assessed for the
drainage project In her area when the dItch Is at 866 feet and her
land is at 865 and she was gettIng the water before It goes out. Mayor
Orttel explained this Is a separate matter. for management costs of
the organizatIon only. Any assessment for future projects wIll be
handled separately.
MOTION by Jacobson. Seconded by Perry, to close the public hearIng.
Motion carrIed on a 4-Yes. 1-Absent (SmIth) vote.
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by Jacobson, introducing the ordInance
establishing the Lower Rum RIver Watershed Management Tax DIstrIct as
prepared and presented. labeJlng the legaJ descrIptIon of the DIstrIct
as ExhIbIt A. Motion carrIed on a 4-Yes. 1-Absent (Smith) vote. The
hearIng closed at 8:19 p.m.
VACATION OF EASEMENT PUBLIC HEARING/16094 SEVENTH AVENUE
Mayor Orttel opened the public hearing at 8:19 p.m. and reviewed the
proposed vacatIon based on the creation of a new easement for the
driveway to the cemetery. There was no pubJIc testImony.
MOTION by Jacobson. Seconded by Jacobson. to cJose the publIc
hearing. MotIon carrIed on a 4-Yes, 1-Absent (SmIth) vote.
MOTION by Jacobson. Seconded by Perry, a ResoJutIon vacating a
driveway easement to al]ow for the placement of a prIncIple dwellIng
on the property ]ocated at 16094 Seventh Avenue NW, Tract G of
Registered Land Survey No. 72, as presented. (See ResolutIon R114-91)
Motion carried on a 4-Yes. 1-Absent (Smith) vote. The hearIng closed
at 8:21 p.m.
PUBLIC HEARING/168TH LANE NW/IP91-14
Mayor Orttel calJed the pub]lc hearing to order at 8:21 p.m. Shawn
Gustafson of Bonestroo and AssocIates revIewed the proposed project
for the construction of 168th Lane from Round Lake Boulevard to 350
feet west of Crocus Street. The costs are to be funded by MSA. and
those not funded by MSA will be assessed to the benettlng property
owners. It Is estImated that assessment will be $2.300 per lot for
a typIcal 368-foot lot.
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Regular CIty Council Meeting
MInutes - August 6. 1991
Page 5
(Public HearIng/168th Lane NW/IP91-14. Continued)
Mr. Gustafson aJso reviewed the storm drainage. notIng in this project
the intent is to carry It to the east by pIpe the entire length of the
road, then pipe through the lots to an exIstIng drainage dItch. The
path of the drainage wIll not be changed, but I t wI I I be routed to the
di tch. There is a lot of storm draInage costs In the project. and It
is not known how much wIll be paId for by MSA funds.
The Counc i 1 was concerned about the amount of pIpIng and cost of the
storm drainage. hopIng that a more economIcal method can be found.
The hearing was then opened for publIc testimony.
Stan Roshau. Lot 19. 2857 168th Lane NW - stated when the ]and to
the north was developed. ponds were dug and the cost was mInimal. He
dIdn't understand why storm sewer had to be put In this road. He also
asked why they need concrete curb and gutter when the adjoInIng road
has a plain blacktop curb. Mayor Orttel explaIned that because It Is
an MSA street, certaIn standards need to be met; and the concrete curb
and gutter takes less room than the ditchIng required for a rural
street standard. Those costs are paid for by State fundIng.
DiscussIon was agaIn on the storm draInage, with Mr. Gustafson statIng
there may be other things that can be done more economIcally. But In
thIs project. there Is no c]ear cut soJutIon. Counc II again
encouraged the Engineers to Jook at other alternatIves In an attempt
to economIze the storm draInage.
Ms. Sonstebv - asked where the dItch runs to. Round Lake or the Rum
River? Mayor Orttel stated It runs west. and the CouncIl's concern
is that normally the storm sewer costs In the rural areas are minimal.
Mark Voth. Lot 5. 3045 168th Lane - asked what a State Aid street
means and how far back from the road wIll the trees be cut. What Is
the City's polIcy on street lIghting? Mayor Orttel explained the
funding comes from the State. the road must meet State standards. and
it must be a through street from one MSA street to another. They try
to do as Jittle cutting of trees as possIble. back about 5 to 10 feet.
Street lighting Is paId for by the resIdents and put in at theIr
request.
Mr. Voth - wondered If the steep sJope at the Intersection of Round
Lake BouJevard wIJJ be corrected. Also, It sounds lIke the assessment
could vary. Mr. Gustafson stated It wIll have to meet MSA standards
for the sJope and vIsibIlity. It Is dIfficult to estImate the
assessment untIl the cost of the storm sewer and the costs elIgIble
for State fundIng are known. Mayor Orttel also exp]aIned the CIty's
policy of reca]llng the property owners prior to awarding the project
i f the proposed assessment Is over five percent of what the resIdents
are told at the hearIng.
Regular CIty CouncIl MeetI ng
MInutes - August 6, 1991
Page 6
(Public Hearlng/168th Lane NW/IP91-14. Continued)
Mr. Roshau - asked about the speed lImIt and what they can expect
for increased traffic. Mayor OrtteJ explained they set the speed
limit at 35 mph; however, the State may set It hIgher I f they do a
study on it. Because I t Is expected to be a through street. the
traffic will increase somewhat.
David Hamers. 3110 168th Lane NW - asked why the road has to go
through. He felt the cost to put the road through the swamp Is very
expensive. He understood that several years ago there was a plan to
put that road through but it was too expensIve, Mayor Orttel
explained the MSA requirement of the road connecting with other MSA
streets. Also, that portI on Is entIrely paId for by MSA funds. The
resIdents only pay for those costs not reimbursed by MSA funds such as
easement. some administratIon, and hopefu]Jy only about 25 percent of
the storm draInage costs.
A resident had read In the City newsletter about two years ago that
168th Lane was goIng to be put through, wonderIng what happened. The
Counc I I was not aware of that, noting the policy of not Improving
roads unless a majority of the residents petItion In favor of It.
Mr. Gustafson stated some rIght of way wi] I be needed along the ditch.
but he dId not know If street right of way needs to be acquIred. The
schedule of the project calls for the plans and specifIcatIons on
August 20. a bid date of September 13 and a project completIon date by
November 15, though some boulevard restoration may not be done untIl
the spring of 1992.
Counc I ] noted the petition of 10 In favor. one opposed and three not
contacted. One resIdent IndIcated he was In favor but Is now
undecided because of the Increased traffic. Mayor Orttel stated they
can expect some Increase In traffIc. but there has not been a problem
where other MSA streets have been put In.
Mark Gardner. Lot 16. 3009 168th Lane - was concerned about the cost
of the curbing. He also wanted to know If I twIll cost hIm extra to
match his driveway. Mr. Gustafson stated the cost of the curbing Is
paId for by MSA funds. As a part of the project, they wIll match up
to hIs drIveway, The road wi] ] be lowered about sIx Inches. and they
may have to pu II back part of his drIveway to match It. That wIll be
done as a part of the project.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried on a 4-Yes. 1-Absent (Sml th) vote.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by McKe]vey. that not hearing any
change In the tally from what we have originally, it appears there Is
an overwhelmIng majority In favor, move the ResolutIon ordering the
Improvement, IP91-14. (See Resolution R115-91) MotIon carrIed on a
4-Yes, 1-Absent (Smi th) vote. Hearing closed at 8:53 p.m.
Regu]ar City Counci] Meeting
MInutes - August 6. 1991
Page 7
PUBLIC HEARING/KELSEY-ROUND LAKE PARK
Mayor Orttel called the publIc hearing to order at 8:53 p.m. Jeff
Kieffer. Park and RecreatIon CommIssIon ChaIrperson. Introduced BIll
Sanders, consul tant for Sanders Wacker Wehrman Bergly. Mr. Sanders
presented the p]an for the 120 acres of Kelsey-Round Lake Park. noting
the staging of development, the trail and walkway system. parkIng
facIlIties, InterpretatIve facilitIes. signing to be done, boardwalk
to the island. etc. The fIrst phase Is planned to be done over a
three-year perIod and Includes the main traI] of 10-foot wIde crushed
limestone the fIrst year. the parking area and landscapIng a]ong the
traIls the second year, and connectIons to the neighborhoods in the
thIrd year. The CIty could apply for another grant after that time.
Counc I ] questioned the security on a rural park of this sIze. Mr.
Sanders stated the sIde entrances are designed to be very lIml ted
access for pedestrIans. Barriers or gates will be needed to keep out
motorized vehIcles. The main trail wou]d be accessible for emergency
vehicles; the other traIls would be on]y sIx feet wIde. ChaIrperson
Kieffer also explaIned the Intent to plant seedlIngs abuttIng some of
the resIdential areas on the west side.
Mr. Sanders also explaIned the main parking area wl1J Include 20
spaces plus 2 buses, but there Is room to expand It. The two sma I] ec
parking lots to the south and west wIll be for only 10 cars. and the
intent is to keep them somewhat lIml ted. He then reviewed the terms
of the grant whIch the City Is applyIng for. It Is for $120.000. a
50-50 matching grant over three years; so the Ci ty wIll need to
contribute $20,000 In each of the three years. The cost to complete
the park Is about $889.000.
Chairperson Kieffer exp]aIned that after the three-year grant, the
Ci ty wll] need to decIde whether to apply for another grant. develop
the park with CIty funds or ask for a referendum from the cesldents.
The Park Board feels they wi] ) be able to dedIcate the $20,000 a year
for the next three years. After that they antIcIpate no development
in Kelsey-Round Lake Park for a few years to allow time to develop
other parks In the CIty.
The hearIng was opened for publIc testimony.
Jerry WindschItl. 3640 152nd Avenue - felt the plan was very well
done wi th the exceptIon of the two sma II parking Jots to the south and
west. Because the CIty doesn't have the polIce reserve to maIntaIn
that much access to the park, he strongly recommended eJImlnatlng the
parking lots on 149th and 151st. He stated most major parks llml t
the access to one. He fe It the smaller parking lots wIll create a
nIghmare for nelghboclng residents because they attract undesIrable
actIvities and wi I I eventually be closed. So why go through the
expense of putting them In In the fIrst pJace. WIth onJy one
entrance on the north side, the CI ty wi I J be responsIble for opening
and closIng only one access.
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Regular City Council Meeting
Minutes - August 6. 1991
Page 8
(Public Hearing/Kelsey-Round Lake Park, ContInued)
Lee Warnecka. 14791 BJackfoot - agreed with Mr. WIndschItJ. At one
poInt It was stated that no one could find the parking lot off 149th.
One must go through the neIghborhood to get there. He felt the small
parkIng Jots should be elIminated.
Mr. Sanders stated the reason they were Included is because of the
distance of the park. It Is about one mIle from top to bottom. and
It may be dlfflcu1t for some people who want to see the southern end
to have to go all the way back again. The parkIng lots are proposed
to be at the end of the cuI de sacs about 25 feet off the street. They
do not have to be Included; they were added as a convenience.
Jeff Voely. 14289 Underclift Street - agreed wIth the comments
regardIng the accesses, but he was also concerned about how big the
parking area In the north should grow gIven the vast expansIve area to
the south. He also preferred to leave the trails as natural as
possIble rather than pave them. ChaIrperson Kieffer stated the Park
Board has dIscussed the possIbIlity of puttIng asphalt on the main
traIl and leavIng the other t~alls as crushed rock. but the asphalt
would not be put on for a number of years.
ChIp DavIs - stated the playground In the northern area Is not
proposed for the InItIal phase. and he felt that would get a lot of
use by the neIghborIng resIdents. ChaIrperson KIeffer stated the
Park Board could Implement that playground outsIde of thIs plan If the
residents would desire It.
MOTION by McKelvey. Seconded by Perry, to close the pubJIc hearing.
Motion carrIed on a 4-Yes. 1-Absent (Smith) vote.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by McKelvey, a ResolutIon approvIng the
authorization to apply to the MInnesota Depa~tment of Trade and
Economic Development for funding of the Kelsey-Round Lake Park. (See
ResolutIon R116-91) MotIon carrIed on a 4-Yes. 1-Absent (SmI th) vote.
The Counc II asked that the parking lots off 149th and 151st be taken
off the master plan. The hearIng closed at 9:36 p.m.
KELSEY ESTATES DISCUSSION
Jerry WindschItl - reviewed a proposal to add two lots to the KeJsey
Estates deve10pment on the south sIde of 152nd Lane. It wou I d be
outside of the pJat on whIch he has already receIved final 9radl ng
approva J . He would buy enough land from Wayne Bachman to make a Jot
on the cui de sac of 152nd Lane. whIch has been pre-arranged; and Mr.
Bachman would endorse the check to the CIty for park dedIcatIon In the
amount of $9.600 as a donatIon. This does not shortchange any
parkland dedicatIon, as Mr. Bachman has already dedicated over fIve
acres of surplus parkJand through the platting process.
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Regular City CouncIl Meeting
Minutes - August 6, 1991
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(Kelsey Estates DIscussion, Continued)
Mr. Schrantz stated the proposal was generated at the Staff level to
have two more assessable parcels on 152nd CIrcle. The master plan
presented thIs evenIng of KeJsey-Round Lake Park shows the area as
parkland, but I t is not. One parcel is owned by Mr. Wlndschltl and is
bu I I dab J e ; the other proposed parcel Is owned by Mr. Bachman. The
benefIt to the CIty Is the addItIon of two assessable parcels plus the
receipt of $9.600 which can be used for park development purposes.
Counc II dIrected the matter to the Park and Recreation Commission for
their consIderatIon and recommendatIon.
CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD/RURAL OR URBAN
Counc I I discussed the county's request of a rural or urban street
standard on Crosstown Boulevard between Andover and Hanson Boulevards.
It was noted a good share of the property aJong the road Is either In
Ag Preserve or owned by the City, so there Is Jlttle property to
assess. It was felt the City does not have the funds to pay Its share
of the concrete curb and gutter, agreeIng the road should be Improved
to a ruraJ standard unless State Aid funds wI I I pay for It.
PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING REPAIR
MOTION by Jacobson. Seconded by Perry. that we accept the Jow bid
from Professional Touch In the amount of $5.869.00 to apply a bondIng
coat and one coat of HYdrolastIc Elastomerlc coating to the PubJIc
Works Building, and move the ResolutIon authorizing expenditure of
that amount from the Permanent Improvement Revo]vIng Fund. as Council
decIded previously. (See ResoJutIon R117-91) Motion carrIed on a
4-Yes. 1-Absent (Smith) vote.
ORDER STREET LIGHT/142ND LANE AND ROUND LAKE BOULEVARD
Mr. KoolIck advIsed the CounclJ the 1992 budget Inc]udes 10 new street
lIghts; but the 1991 budget allows for no new ones. Some were ordered
In 1991. but he didn't know If they had been Insta]led yet. CounclJ
agreed more care needs to be taken when orderIng lIghts to be sure
they are budgeted for. suggestIng those ordered thIs year be Included
as part of the 10 lights for 1992. It was also noted that the lights
are paId for over a fIve-year period.
MOTION by Perry. Seconded by Jacobson. that the CI ty Install a
street lIght at or near the IntersectIon of 142nd Lane NW and Round
Lake Boulevard at City expense with the understandIng that the
InstaJlatlon and costs Incurred be timed so that It Is a 1992 budget
expenditure rather than In 1991. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, 1-Absent
(Sml th) vote.
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EXERCISE OPTION/RICOH COPIER
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry. the CIty CouncIl authorIze a
letter presented to us dated August 22. 1991. to Brooklyn Center
LeasIng to offer to purchase the RIcoh CopIer for $879.66. MotIon
carrIed on a 4-Yes. 1-Absent (Smith) vote.
LAWFUL GAMBLING ORDINANCE
Attorney HawkIns reviewed the the CIty CouncIl's optIons regardIng
lawful gambling with the City. The lIcensIng Is controlled by the
state CharItable Gambling Control Board. But the City can Impose
greater restrIctIons on lawful gamblIng than the State does. such as
where It can occur, limIt the number of licenses permItted. requIre
the funds be expended wIthIn the CIty's trade area, etc.. or It can
outlaw gamblIng In the City entirely. He then revIewed a proposed
ordInance whIch would regulate lawfuJ gambling wIthIn Andover. noting
a correctIon In the dates would need to be made In SectIon 6.
Councilmembers Perry and Jacobson did not believe there Is any
purposes for cItIes or other governmental bodIes to be Involved In
gambling. Mayor Orttel didn't see thIs as the government being
involved but in controlling It.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, that CIty CouncIJ dIrect
legal counsel to prepare an ordInance for the next reguJarlY scheduled
Council meetIng to deny any lawful gamblIng actIvitIes within the CIty
of Andover. MotIon fails on a 2-Yes (Jacobson, Perry). 2-No
<McKelvey.Orttel). 1-Absent (SmIth) vote.
CouncIJ dIrected the matter be brought back to the next Council
meetIng for actIon when there Is a ful I CounclJ present.
APPROVE GAMBLING PERMIT/FIRE FIGHTERS' RELIEF ASSOCIATION
Attorney HawkIns advised the Council has the right to make comments on
It. The AssocIatIon wIll forward the applIcatIon to the State, whIch
has 60 days to respond. CouncIl asked that the Item be brought back
to them at the next meetIng as well.
CABLE TV PUBLIC ADDRF.SS SYSTEM DISCUSSION
MOTION by Jacobson. Seconded by Perry, a ResoJutIon authorizing the
expenditure of not more than $2.900 from the Permanent Improvement
RevolvIng Fund for the purchase of a publIc address system for the
City Council Chamber as presented. with the understandIng that the
money that Is reimbursed to the City from the Cable Commission In
early 1992 wI I I be put back Into the same fund from which It came.
(See ResolutIon R118-91) MotIon carrIed on a 4-Yes. 1-Absent (Smith)
vote.
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APPROVE RED CROSS AGREEMENT
Counc I I questioned whether the SenIor CitIzen Center can be used for
thIs purpose since It was built with CDBG funds. Mr. Carlberg stated
he would check that out with the county.
MOTION by Perry. Seconded by McKelvey, that we approve the Agreement
to declare the SenIor Citizen Center as an Emergency Center In the
event of a dIsaster contIngent upon the county's concurrence that this
Is an appropriate use for that area. Motion carried on a 4-Yes,
1-Absent (SmI th) vote.
UNRESOLVED ISSUES/CREEK VIEW CROSSING
Mr. Schrantz passed out copIes to the Council of comments on the
Issues made by John Davidson. TKDA. dated August 2, 1991. Item #2 In
the Counc II Agenda, the Issue of the cui de sac. can be resolved by
moving the cui de sac back Into the Creek View Crossing plat. It
wou]d not be a full cIrcle. but a temporary T-shaped turnaround to the
edge of the property. Creek View Crossing developer Tony EmmerIch was
present and agreed to that proposal.
DIscussIon was on I tern 1, park access. Mayor Orttel explained the
park access was orIgInally shown on one of the InterIor lots. but was
changed to the border of Creek View CrossIng and the property to the
east. Jerry Wlndschltl. owner of the property to the east, feels that
access affects the property vaJue of hIs future lots and would JIke to
see it moved back. Mr. EmmerIch stated there was an agreement on
Items 2 and 3 weeks ago.
DIscussion was then on Item 3. matter of trespass. Mayor Orttel
explaIned Staff fee]s that some of the trees and debris on the
WIndschltl property Is from the Old Colony Estates development; but
some of the people who are purchasIng lots In Creek VIew Crossing are
dumpIng branches there also. Mr. EmmerIch stated he has an agreement
wIth Mr. Hamel and they wI I I burn on his property when they get a
burning permit. Once It Is burned, he does not feel oblIgated to
pol ice the property.
Jerry WlndschItl stated he has trIed to cooperate with the City,
pointIng out how he Infomred the CIty of a defective Jegal descrIption
In the Creek View CrossIng plat as soon as It was dIscovered by his
surveyor. Mr. HawkIns belIeved that description Is now beIng
corrected.
Mr. WIndschltl felt the solution to the park access Issue Is to vacate
the current access abuttIng his property and dedIcate a park access on
the drainage and utility easement between the lots where It was
originally proposed. He felt the current access Is Illegal because no
publIc hearIng was held on that portion of the plat.
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(Unresolved Issues/Creek VIew Crossing. ContInued)
Mr. EmmerIch stated he wou1d not have a prob1em with that except the
affected lot on the creek was the second lot he sold. He doubted the
valldl ty of the claIm that the park access wllJ devalue Mr.
WIndschltl's lot. as al I his Jots along the creek have sold for the
same price. The genera I consensus of the Counc II also was that the
current location of the park access does not affect Mr. WIndschlt1's
property.
In summary. the Counc I ) noted Item 1. park access, will remaIn as is;
It em 2, cui de sac, w I I I be corrected to be totally on the Creek VIew
CrossIng plat; and Item 3. trespass, Is being taken care of by Mr.
Emmerich.
NON-DISCUSSION ITEMS
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by McKelvey. the Counc I I vote In the
affirmative Agenda Items:
No. 15 - Resolution R119-91 - Amend Fee Schedule effectIve as soon
as published
No. 16 - Schedule September 12 for specIal meetIng with the
ComprehensIve Plan Task Force
No. 17 - Informational Item for FeaslbIJlty, IP91-21, storm sewer
in SmIth's Green Acres
No. 19 - ResolutIon R120-91 - Approve No Parking on 168th Lane,
IP91-14
No. 20 - Reduction of Escrow to HIlls of Bunker 1st by $13,500.
Motion carrIed on a 4-Yes. 1-Absent (Sml th) vote.
COON CREEK WATERSHED ACTIVITIES
CouncIlmember Jacobson advised Staff to be aware that the Coon Creek
Watershed Board has authorIzed the hIrIng of someone to dig out the
pond off Andover Boulevard In Old C010ny Estates and that possibly a
mining perml t Is needed.
Councilmember Jacobson also noted the Watershed Staff was directed to
prepare a second budget plan that wou1d propose the Ditch 57 project
as 106a. There was also a motion which was defeated to table the
actIon untIl It was presented to the Andover CIty Councl]. Mayor
Orttel reported some on the Watershed Board are anxious to have the
ditch done In Andover. He and the City's representatIve have argued
the project should be done as a 509 district-wide project financed on
an ad valorem basIs. Coon Rapids Is opposed to that because they have
already paid to have their portIon cleaned.
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(Coon Creek Watershed ActivIties. Continued)
The Mayor argued that Coon RapIds uses the dItch as more of a direct
storm water channel than Andover. Typically Andover's Is used after
going through several ponds. Andover Is more of a conduIt for water
from the north to the south than I t Is a contributor. In additIon.
there Is the problem of not beIng able to lower the dItch along the
landfllJ area. He also told the Watershed Board that the City would
have to raise all the objectIons It dId before If It came up agaIn
under a 106a project.
It was agreed the Council should be kept Informed as to what dIrectIon
the Watershed Board Is taking.
APPROVE FINAL PLAT/OLESEN'S 2ND ADDITION
CouncIJmember Jacobson was concerned that their copy Is an "Unchecked
Plat" and Is not signed by a surveyor. He questIoned whIch way Lot 4
faces. as It would not have enough frontage facIng 174th. Mayor
Orttel noted Lot 4 has the orIginal farmstead on It and faces CoRd 58.
CouncIlmember Jacobson stated the additIon of the dimensIons for Lot 1
do not add up. The setback on the cuJ de sac of Lot 2 Is not 300
feet. Mr. Schrantz stated Staff has stated the plat conforms to the
prelImInary plat. The surveyor will sign the pJat prIor to the City
signing it.
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by Jacobson, the ResolutIon approving the
fIna] pJat of Olesen 2nd AdditIon as being developed by Gene Olesen
subject to the addItional review by the AssIstant City Engineer to
determIne that all dImensions are correct and also subject to the six
conditions as outlIned In the memo from Todd Haas. (See Resolution
R121-91) MotIon carrIed on a 4-Yes. 1-Absent (Smith) vote.
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
MOTION by Perry. Seconded by Jacobson. the Schedule of Bills dated
8-2-91 In the amount of $824.851.21. MotIon carried on a 4-Yes.
1-Absent (Smith) vote.
MAYOR/COUNCIL INPUT
Mr. Padula asked the CIty CouncIl to dIrect the Staff to send him
wrItten confIrmation that no further legal action wI I I be taken
against him until the Planning Commission hears the Issue and the City
CouncIl takes some action. CounclJ agreed.
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by McKelvey, to adjourn. MotIon carrIed
on a 4-Yes. 1-Absent (SmIth) vote. 10:59 p.m.
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MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by McKelvey. that we reconvene the
meetIng for fIve minutes. Motion carried 4-Yes, 1-Absent (SmI th)
vote.
CHANGE ORDER NO. 4/FIRE STATIONS
Bob Peach. Bond Coordinator, reviewed the proposed changes for the two
new fire stations. recommending that Item No. 1 . the 8-lnch lettering
be deJeted. Councl]member Jacobson was concerned that the amount of
change orders amounts to 6 1/2 percent of the cost of the buJ Idlng,
expressIng reluctance to approve any more changes. Mr. Peach noted
the cost of the change orders Is smaller and smaller. As the BuJ ldIng
Committee revIews the stations as they are being built, the varIous
Items that need to be changed or added are noted. He expects thIs
wi II contInue untIl the stations are completed.
MOTION by McKelvey, Seconded by Jacobson, approval of Change Order
No. 4 as presented. less Number 1 on the 8-Inch letters. for a total
amount of $5.620. Motion carrIed unanimously.
There being no further business. Mayor Orttel declared the meetIng
adjourned at 11:08 p.m.
Respectfully submItted.
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Ma eJla A. Peach
Recording Secretary
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