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Special City Council Meeting - January 10, 1989
7:00 P.M.
1. Call to Order
2. Accept Resignation/M. Perry
3. Swearing-in Ceremony
4. Fire Marshal Discussion
5. Goals & Objectives for 1989 staffing & Salaries
6. Building Permit Fees
7. CDBG Budget
8. Water Tower & Treatment
9. Adjournment
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A Special Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order
by Mayor James Elling at 7:00 p.m., Tuesday, January 10, 1989 at
the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Andover,
MN.
Councilmembers Present: Knight, Jacobson, Orttel, Perry
Councilmembers Absent: None
Also Present: James Schrantz, City Administrator; Bob
Palmer, Fire Chief; Shirley Clinton,
City Treasurer; Frank Stone, Public
Works Supervisor; Dave Almgren, Build-
ing Official; others
Agenda Approval
Mayor Elling suggested that the agenda be amended as follows:
Add Items 6.a., Appointment of Acting Mayor and 6.e., Appoint
Special/Standing Committees. He also suggested that Item 5,
Staffing and Salaries be moved to the end of the agenda and that
Item 8, Water Tower and Treatment be omitted.
MOTION by Jacobson, seconded by Knight to approve the agenda as
amended. Motion carried.
Accept Resignation/M. Perry
MOTION by Knight, seconded by Orttel to accept the resignation of
Marjorie Perry from the planning and Zoning Commission. Motion
carried.
Swearing-in Ceremony
City Administrator James Schrantz swore in Majorie Perry as
Councilmember to fill the vacancy created by Mayor Elling.
Fire Marshal Discussion
Mayor Elling explained that one of the reasons for having a part
time Fire Marshal is so that fire inspections can be done during
business hours rather than in the evenings. There is $17,000 in
the budget for this position.
Councilman Jacobson asked if this position would be a Fire
Department position or a city employee. Mayor Elling noted that
it would be a city employee and that Mr. Schrantz should write
a job description for the position. He also noted that the Fire
Department bylaws need to be amended.
Councilman Orttel also noted that it would be a half time
position at 20 hours per week.
Special City Council Meeting
January 10, 1989 - Minutes
Page 2
(Fire Marshal Discussion, cont.)
Councilman Orttel noted that it would be a half time position at
20 hours per week.
Discussion continued on whether this position would be
accountable to the Fire Department or the City administration
with Mayor Elling stating that if it's a Fire Department position
we could be sending someone to school every two years as it's an
elected position.
Councilmember Perry asked what other functions the Fire Marshal
could perform if Council authorizes 20 hours per week. Fire
Chief Palmer noted that it all depends on what needs to be done.
It was suggested that this position be under the supervision of
the Building Department. Chief Palmer noted that in other cities
the position is under the Fire Department. Mr. Schrantz asked
how many of the people who signed up for the Fire Marshal
position are qualified. Mr. Palmer felt that they are all very
knowledgable; however, Joyce Noyes has the most schooling for the
job.
Mr. Schrantz noted that previously Council discussed other duties
Ray Sowada could perform if he were the person selected, such as
code enforcement. If somene else had the position, they might
only want to work 20 hours per week.
Councilman Orttel asked if it would be acceptable to have a half
time person as a city employee and half time as Fire Marshal.
Mr. Stone stated that it is not acceptable to him as he needs
people who are going to be there fulltime.
Councilman Jacobson asked about job sharing with our Fire Marshal
also working for other cities. Mr. Palmer thought there might be
a legal liability with our Fire Marshal going to other cities.
Mr. ortte1 also felt that other cities might not want an outsider
doing their inspections.
Glen Smith, Assistant Fire Chief, felt that for at least a year
that person is going to have more than enough to do here. We're
lacking in a lot of areas such as hazardous material.
Councilman Orttel stated that we need to set a position, set the
salary, change the bylaws and once this is finala1ized, the
individuals involved could be discussed. Mayor Elling suggested
that the Fire Department set the education requirements for the
position and also select the person and bring their
recommendations to the Council.
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Special City Council Meeting
January 10, 1989 - Minutes
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(Fire Marshal Discussion, cant. )
MOTION by Knight, seconded by Orttel to approve the position of
Fire Marshal to a maximum of 20 hours per week; the salary to be
determined by the personnel committee; a job description to be
drawn up by the Fire Chief and City Administrator and that two
candidates be recommended for the position by the Fire Department
on a rating basis with candidates one and two to be presented to
the Council at the first meeting in February. Also, that this be
a permanent parttime position answerable to the City
Administrator during the day and the Fire Chief at other times.
Motion carried unanimously.
Building Permit Fees
Building Official Dave Almgren explained that the purpose of this
is to begin using the 1985 fee schedule for building permits. At
the present time we are using the 1982 fee schedule along with
Ham Lake and East Bethel. Anoka, Blaine, Champlin and Coon
Rapids are using the 1985 schedule. The ci ties all try to keep
their rates the same. He noted that the fee schedule is part of
the building code and that a city can charge more than the fee
schedule listed in that code. At the present time, the plan
check fee is $20.00 for residential permits, but the State is
recommending that we charge 65%.
Councilmember Perry noted that Andover has many more fees that
are assessable than other cities. She asked if it would be
possible to eliminate some of those other fees that are currently
being charged if we increase building permit fees.
Mr. Almgren didn't feel we could eliminate other fees because
there are separate permits required, such as for a "footing to
grade" permit.
Councilman Jacobson asked if it would be possible to charge just
one fee for the building permit which would include the plumbing,
heating and other permits that are required. Councilman Orttel
felt that we couldn't do that because the plumbers, heating
contractors and other contractors need to come in to get their
permits.
Mayor Elling noted that the only concern he has is that the Park
Board is thinking about raising the park dedication fees and he
didn't want to discourage development.
Councilman Jacobson asked if the reason for this is to make more
money. Mr. Almgren explained that it is to get in line with what
other cities are doing.
Councilmember Perry asked why Blaine and Coon Rapids went to the
1985 schedule. Mr. Almgren noted that Coon Rapids did it to fund
another attorney and a secretary.
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Special City Council Meeting
January 10, 1989 - Minutes
Page 4
(Building Permit Fees, Con t. )
Councilman Knight asked that if we raise the fee schedule we
should remove some of the other fees.
Mayor Elling asked how this affects commercial building permits.
Mr. Almgren explained that the fees for commercial permits are
based on the contract price.
Mr. Schrantz stated that if we don't raise these fees then we
won't be able to do some of the other things we might want to
do.
MOTION by Jacobson, seconded by Knight that the Council take the
present UBC which is $433 per house and for 1989 index that by
the rate of inflation (4%) and every year thereafter on December
31st, index that by the CPI to agree with the national rate of
inflation. (See R002-89)
Discussion: Councilman orttel stated that before 12 months
passes, we're going to be in dire straits for city funding. The
one justification he can see is that it's a one time thing. A
lot of cities subsidize their building departments and it won't
be long before we end up subsidizing ours. Therefore, Mr. Orttel
felt that it's probably reasonable to raise these fees. Mayor
Elling noted that Council is in agreement that we should raise
the fees but not as much as has been proposed. Mr. Almgren
suggested that we go 50%.
Councilman Jacobson withdrew his motion and Councilman Knight
withdrew his second.
Councilmember Perry felt that if we go with the 1985 UBC she
would like to look at eliminating some of our other fees, such as
the Certificate of Occupancy and Plan Check fees. She noted that
the cities that are using the 1985 UBC have eliminated some fees.
Mr. Almgren stated that we could start charging for
reinspections, which is something that is allowed but we have
never done.
MOTION by Jacobson that we adopt for the year 1989 the 1982 UBC
permit fee schedule plus $100 effective January 1 and then on
January 1, 1990 go to the current UBC 1985 schedule.
Motion dies for lack of a second.
MOTION by Jacobson, seconded by Knight to authorize staff to
prepare a resolution to adopt the policy of the difference
between the UBC 1982 rate and the 1985 rate and that 50%, the
difference between the two, be the rate for 1989.
Motion carried unanimously.
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January 10, 1989 - Minutes
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CDBG Budget
Councilman Orttel asked what the human resources departments are
that are requesting funds. Jay Blake, City Planner, noted that
they are Rise, Inc. , Alexandra House and Mediation Services. He
noted that we should use a specific dollar amount and request
applications from the agencies requesting funds.
Councilman Knight felt that we should look at the efficiency
ratings of some of the agencies.
Mr. Blake explained that the funds can be used for human service
programs that serve lower income individuals; economic develop-
ment; planning purposes for the community; physical facilities
for handicapped people; purchase of land for parks, etc.
Mayor Elling noted that our Capital Improvements plan needs to
be redone along with the Comprehensive plan. He felt that we
could use CDBG funds for these items.
Councilman orttel suggested reserving some of the money for the
purchase of the junkyards.
Mr. Blake also noted that we are required to have a public
hearing and at that time we have to open up for public comment
what our plans are for the money.
Councilman Orttel felt that we should use a certain percentage
for human services and the residue for other purposes. Council-
man Jacobson agreed, suggesting 30% for human services and 70%
for planning.
Mayor Elling asked Mr. Blake to put something together for the
next meeting.
Goals and Obiectives for 1989 Staffing & Salaries
Mr. Schrantz explained that last summer Todd Haas was going to
leave and Daryl Morey left and the Council said that they would
like to become competitive. Also, our benefits are falling
behind what other communities are paying.
Mayor Elling asked how much money is in the budget for this.
Mr. Schrantz noted that when we started the budget there was
enough money for his proposal, but a lot of it was taken out
for other things. There is $21,300 left for salaries.
Frank Stone, Public Works Supervisor, noted that he surveyed
the supervisors in other cities and they are only supervising
two or three departments and Mr. Stone is supervising thirteen.
At the present time he is supervising 16 people and it gets
to be a lot of time.
Councilman Orttel asked how many dollars it will take to bring
these salaries up. Councilman Jacobson noted that if we need
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January 10, 1989 - Minutes
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(Staffing and Salaries, Cont. )
$21,000 for salaries and $12,000 for benefits, you only will
end up with $10,000 and that is not enough to do what you want.
Mayor Elling asked if Ginny VanVleet's position in the building
department should be full time. Mr. Almgren stated it should not
be full time. Mayor Elling then asked if Charlene We1u's
position should be fulltime. Shirley Clinton, Treasurer, noted
that she needs a full time person either above or below her and
she also needs Charlene.
Mayor Elling felt that they should sit down and see what we need
for people. He also stated that we need to figure out where
we're going to get the money. Mr. Schrantz noted that he gave
the Council several ways to get the money such as raising the
building permit fees and raising the administrative costs for
improvement projects. Mr. Schrantz also explained that another
problem staff has is credibility with the Council. We waste a
lot of time doing things over and over again. He then noted
that $37,200 is what is needed to bring the salaries up and this
does not include his salary or the public works people.
Counci1member Perry asked if we could get all of these numbers on
paper for the meeting on the 17th.
Jack MCKelvey suggested that the Council wait until the union
contract is settled before giving raises.
Councilman Orttel asked that Mr. Schrantz put together the exact
cost of all employee raises, the overhead with medical benefits
and where the money is coming from.
Apointment of Acting Mayor
MOTION by Jacobson, seconded by perry to appoint Mike Knight to
the position of Acting Mayor. Motion carried.
Appoint Special/Standing Committees
Mayor Elling suggested the following committees: Road Committee-
Marge Perry and Jim Elling as Chairman; Community Develobment
Committee - Don Jacobson and Mike Knight as Chairman; pu lie
Safety - Ken ortte1 and Jim Elling as Chairman; Personnel -
Mike Knight and Don Jacobson as Chairman; Hazardous Waste -
Marge Perry and Ken Orttel as Chairman.
MOTION by Jacobson, seconded by Knight to accept the above names
for appointment to the committees. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Jacobson, seconded by Knight to adjourn. Motion
carried. Meeting adjourned at 10:20 P.M.
M,tù-SUbmitted'
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Acting Secretary