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,~,' Regular City Council Meeting - September 5, 1989
7:30 P.M. Call to Order
Resident Forum
Agenda Approval
Approval of Minutes
Discussion Items
1. Assessment Hearing/IP88-14;uplander St.
2. Assessment Hearing/IP88-18/Dehn's Addn.
3. Woodland Creek Parking Lot
4. Woodland Terrace Outlots
5. Heidelberger Variance
6. Crosstown Blvd. Storm Drain
7. Kirby Estates Park Dedication
Staff, Committee, Commission
8. Approve Lot Purchases
9. Selection of Comprehensive Plan Consultant
10. Computer Discussion
11. Approve Joint Powers Agreement w/Ham Lake
lla. Approve Joint Powers Agreement/Cr.Lk. Playground Equip.
Non-Discussion Items
12. Accept Petition, Order Feasibi1ity/89-22/
Wandersee Addition
13. Approve Composting Resolution
14. Release Grading Escrow/Red Oaks 5th
15. Accept Easements
16. Adopt Resolution/Humane Society Month
17. Approve Change Orders/89-1¡ 89-2
18. Approve Final payment/Old Colony Est./88-8
19. Approve plans & Specs/88-16/173rd & Navajo
Approval of Claims
Adiournment
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f~ CITY of ANDOVER
1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304· (612) 755-5100
- REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - SEPTEMBER 5, 1989
MINUTES
The Regular BI-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called
to order by Mayor Jim Elling on September 5, 1989, 7:30 p.m., at at
the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover,
Minnesota.
Councllmembers present: Jacobson, Kn I gh t , Orttel, Perry
Councllmembers absent: None
Also present: City Attorney, WI111am G. Hawkins: Assistant
City Engineer, Todd Haas; City Planner, Jay
Blake; City Finance Director, Howard Ko01lck:
City Administrator, James Schr-antz: others
RESIDENT FORUM
Hubert Smith. 13309 Jav Street - stated at the August 15 meeting the
Counc i ] tabled the public hearing for storm drainage In Watt's Garden
Acres to September 5. But now he is told the Council approved It at a
special meeting last month. Attorney Hawkins advised that the
hearing was set for today and that the Counc II shou I d move to
reconsider the item, reopen the hearing, and hear additional Input
before making a final decision.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, to so move. Motion carried
unanimously. This Item was added as Item 8 to the Agenda.
Rosella Sonstebv - said she Is appealing the decision of August 1 ,
1989, by the Andover City Council to submit an amendment to the
Comprehensive P]an for only the land noted In the court order. She
stated her property can be served by gravity, plus It was asked to be
included by the Metropolitan Council.
Ms. Sonsteby also read a letter from Anoka County In which they paid
$9,300 for ProJect 85-03, County Road 116. She said that should have
been taken off the assessment of the storm water In that area. She
stated the City did not assess the park for that proJect as required
by Minnesota Statutes and the City's own ordinances. Plus Ms.
Sonsteby stated she was assessed for all of her land when only 6 of 26
acres Is buildable, and she showed a survey map to make her point.
Mr. Hawkins advised Ms. Sonsteby has appealed the assessment and lost
in both District Court and the Lower Court of Appeals, noting these
points should have been brought up In those trials.
Ms. Sonsteby stated they had been, and the City's engineer should have
known that she was being assessed for property that does not
contribute to Dehn's pond. She stated she Is also taking the
assessment appeal to the Supreme Court.
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(Resident Forum, Continued)
Mayor EJ ling stated the staff would go through each of the I terns but
didn't feel further discussion was appropriate since the matter Is
going to the Supreme Court.
Michael Kelner. 15478 Prairie Road - asked to apply for a permIt to
work with outboard motors In his home. His profession Is a marine
engineer, but he got laid off from work last year. So he would lIke
to work on outboard motors. His yard Is completely hidden by pine
trees and he Is 300 feet off the road, so It should not bother anyone
else. Counc II recommended he go through the normal process of making
app]lcatlon with a hearing held by the Planning Commission.
AGENDA APPROVAL
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconed by Perry, the Agenda as amended. Motion
carried unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, approval of the August 15
Regular Meeting as written. Motion carried unanlmousJy.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, approval of August 17, the
Continuation of the Regular Meeting. Motion carrIed on a 4-Yes,
l-Present (Orttel) vote.
ASSESSMENT HEARING/IP88-14/UPLANDER STREET
Glen Cook, Bonestroo, Rosene, and AnderJlk, revIewed the proJect of
24-foot wide street with bituminous curb. The total project cost was
$44,893.81, which amounts to an assessment of $2,993 for each of the
15 lots. The larger lots were only assessed one unit because they are
not subdividable. Also, Parcel 1 on the south end only received one
assessment at this time. It Is an Ag Preserve; however, it Is
assessable for streets.
Dave LaFlamme. 16001 Uplander Street. Lot 11 - stated the assessment
Is $300 more per lot than what they were told. Mr. Cook explained the
or i ginal figure was an estimate; this is the actual cost of the
proJect.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Perry, the Resolution adopting the
assessment rol I for the Improvement of street construction for
Improvement ProJect 88-14, Uplander Street for certification. as
prepared. (See Resolution RI51-89) MotIon carried unanimously.
The hearing closed at 7:47 p.m.
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ASSESSMENT HEARING/IP88-18/DEHN'S ADDITION
Glen Cook, BRA, reviewed the street construction In Dehn's Addition
for a 24-foot wide street with berm curb. The total proJect cost was
$72,695.68, which amounts to an assessment of $2,596 for each of the
28 assessable units.
Robert Dehn. 1445 Guarani. Lot 2. Block 2 - noted his Jetter to the
Mayor and Council regarding the assessment of Lot 3. That lot Is not
buildable and cannot be f II led. The DNR stopped the fll Ing of that
lot, so It is too low for a septic system.
David Almgren, Building Official, agreed Lot 3 is too low and too
small to build on. The Engineers also noted the City park Is being
assessed, but Lot 10 Is not being assessed because I t Is not
buildable. Counc II generally agreed Lot 3 shouJd not be assessed
either, but deliberated as to whether the amount of that assessment
should be absorbed by the bond Issue or spread out among the remaining
27 assessable parceJs. The assessments would become $2,692.43 for 27
units. Attorney Hawkins advised the assessments cannot be Increased
without renotifylng the Individuals.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Knight, that the City Council not
adopt the proposed Resolution for ProJect 88-18, and renotlfy the
residents of the increase In prices of approximately $90, to
$2,692.43; and explain In a letter to the residents why the Increase;
and place It on the next appropriate Agenda for Council action.
Dr SCUSS ION: Counc II asked If there would be time to renotlfy and
st ill get the roll certified this year. Mr. Koollck fel t the Item
could be heard at the first meeting In October and stl11 be certified
this year. Motion carried unanimously.
WOODLAND CREEK PARKING LOT
Lawrence Carlson. Woodland Development - Invited everyone to the
open house of the golf course, hoping It can be opened In about one
week. Grave1 has been placed on the driveway and a portion of the
parking lot. Only a portion of the parking lot was done at the
approval of the Building Official. The rest wil] be done after the
building Is constructed. He has no obJection to putting in asphalt
but would rather walt until next spring when the construction Is
finished because of the heavy trucks coming In. The use of the
facility Is very little, and the asphalt would undergo a lot of
unnecessary stress from the trucks.
Mr. Carlson stated he did obJect to the concrete curb requirement. He
made the Counc I ] aware of the cost overruns due In part to fallowing
the requirements of the City. Between $25,000 and $30,000 has already
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<Woodland Creek Parking Lot, Continued)
been spent on engineering fees alone, questioning whether they or the
City are getting theIr money's worth. As a result, they have
downgraded the building and hope to break even on the facility by the
third year. It is a seasonal facility and wi I I not be open In the
winter months. Maximum use of the facility would be from the last
half of April through the middle or end of October. It Is strictly a
golf facility basically for the neighborhood.
Mr. Carlson noted in checking with other cities, none require concrete
curbing on the parking lots of golf courses. He reviewed his findings
of what other cities do -- either no ordinance requirement for curbing
or zoning the golf courses as residential. One City deliberately did
not require curbing because the use of the curbing relates to snow
removal. Since they will close down for the winter and the facility
will be vacant, there will be no snowplowlng.
Mr. Carlson proposed meeting the asphalt specifications with an
asphalt curb, feeling that they should not have to have the added cost
burden of the concrete curbing. The difference In cost Is about
$6.000 for concrete versus $1,000 for asphalt. They have thought
about how to keep the cars from parking on the grass, feeling they
would be able to control It with concrete blocks or posts.
Counc II discussed the Issues of postponing the laying of asphalt and
of concrete curbing. The genera] consensus regarding the asphalt was
it made more sense to put It down in the spring after the construction
of the building, though a specific deadline should be agreed to.
Mr. Blake stated Ordinance 8, Section 8.08, noted there must be
curbing on all parking areas In commercial areas, but It does not
call for the type of curb. Mr. Almgren noted the concrete curb has
been required In al I commercial areas to control the traff I c and
drainage. Mr. Blake though t the original drawings Indicated concrete
curb and gutter, and that Is what they based their recommendation on.
Mr. Carlson stated the reason the drawings showed that Is because the
Ci ty told them to do It that way. As they reviewed the costs, they
have looked at alternatives that are suitable to al I concerned.
Because the ordinance does not specifIcally state concrete curbing,
the Counc II generally did not have a problem with asphalt curbing.
Councilmember Orttel suggested the ordinance be clarified to
differentiate between year-round retail businesses as opposed to
seasonal or recreational facilities.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, that the Counc i J direct the
P & Z to consider the parking lot standards for the City of Andover,
In particular the difference between commercial and reta i I uses as
opposed to commercial recrea tl ona I or recreational type. Motion
carried on a 4-Yes, 1-No (Jacobson as he didn't think the City should
differentiate between 12-month or 6-month businesses; commercial Is
commercial. ) vote.
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WOODLAND TERRACE OUTLOTS
Lawrence Carlson. Woodland Develoment - had always assumed the
out Jots belonged to the City and did not realize that was not so until
he received the tax statement on them. He has been unable to find his
file on the plat because a former employee worked on It. But he
thought the City has maintaIned that property, it has been put to the
required use. It Is drainage for the purpose of retaining the water
for a period of time if there Is a heavy rainfall, and he has no use
for the outlots.
Mayor El ling stated the Minutes were researched, but any reference to
the City taking over the outlots was not found. But apparently the
outlots are part of the overa I I storm drainage system for the area.
Councilmember Orttel also noted that the property was buildable ground
before It was graded for pondlng. In March of 1985 It seems clear
that It was the developer's Intention to dedicate the out lots to the
City.
Discussion was then on the letters assigned the three ponds In the
plat, noting there was some confusion on Just what Mr. Carlson wanted
the City to accept. Mr. Carlson noted a change was made at Lily Street
after the preliminary plat, which changed the numbering through the
plat. He said there are only two out lots which he wants the City to
accept. Counc II then reviewed the final plat, trying to determine the
specific out lots In question.
Councilmember Jacobson suggested the Council concur with accepting the
outlots but asked that the specific legal descriptions be provided by
the developer to avoid any further confusion and for Council action.
Mr. Carlson agreed.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Jacobson, to so move, contingent on
the approva] of the legal counsel that they are the correct parcels.
Motion carried unanimously. Mr. Carlson stated he will provide the
legals to Mr. Hawkins. This Is to be added to the September 19
Counc i I agenda for Council action.
HEIDELBERGER VARIANCE
Attorney Hawkins explained after the Council denied this, his office
began prosecuting Mr. Heidelberger for violating the Zoning Ordinance.
No resolution was reached at the pre-trial. In the discussions, the
Court Indicated that it could require Mr. Heidelberger to remove these
by imposing a Jail sentence; and if it is removed, the sentence
wouldn't be served. It they are not removed, the sentence would be
served. The Court also stated there Is no guarantee that i t wou I d
solve the problem nor a guarantee that It would Impose that type of
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<Heidelberger Variance, Continued)
sentence If convicted. The agreement was to bring It back to the
Counc i I to look at it again. If the previous CouncIl decision stands,
the matter will be tried In court. Mr. Hawkins stated he is not
making a recommendation. It is mereJy on the basis of the comments of
the Judge sitting that he mayor may not Impose any Jai I time. The
other aJternatlve would be to bring a civil InJunctive action to force
removal of It: but that Is normally a longer and more costly process.
Councllmember Orttel stated he wasn't thinking of the ordinance
provision, Section 4.05, that the accessory building shal 1 not be
located closer to the front lot line than the principal structure
unless it matches the styJe of the residentIal structure. He didn't
think that even required a variance. Mr. Blake didn't feel the
structure matched the residentlaJ home, but it is not signIficantlY
dl fferen t.
Councilmember Orttel recal led the other concern when this was
discussed was It would be an expansion of a nonconformIng use, that
being a residential use In an Industrial district. But he knew of one
Instance In that same district that was gIven a building permit to
make a substantial Improvement on their house, his thought being that
the City should be consistent In what it is doing. Mr. Blake stated
since he has been here they have Interpreted that section of the
ordinance to mean no additions to structures or no new structures nor
expansions to the Junkyard businesses. Mr. Almgren, Building
official, stated the building permit was on]y a 12-foot addition to
the house. He said he talked to Mr. Hawkins about it, who advised it
is difficult to restrict homeowners from making Improvements If the
zoning is changed.
Councllmember Knight had a problem with It because It was started 15
years ago, not knowing if putting a roof on those walls Is that much
of a problem. CounclJmember Jacobson felt the ordinances must be
enforced. CounclJmember Perry feJt the roof Is the issue; and putting
the roof on changes the structure and therefore should not be allowed.
However, she did not feel the blocks needed to be removed.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, that we reinstate or continue
with Resolution 093-89 that we previously passed and concur again.
Motion carried on a 4-Yes, 1-No (Orttel, feeling the Resolution denies
the request solely on the fact that the buiJdlng Is closer to the
front of the principal structure, which Is allowed by ordinance) vote.
Attorney Hawkins felt the THEREFORE clause deals with both issues of
nonconforming accessory structure and In front of the prlnclpaJ
structure.
Rick Heidelberoer - asked if he would use the buildIng as a part of
the business, would it be a conforming use. Mr. Blake stated no
because the ordinance does not al low the expansion of a Junkyard
business. There was no further Council action.
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CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD STORM DRAIN
Counc i I agreed to discuss this item at the next regular meeting on
September 19.
MOTION by Perry, Seconded by Jacobson, to so move. Motion carried
unanimously.
KIRBY ESTATES PARK DEDICATION
Kay Olson. Klrbv Estates. 13251 Jav Street - explained on August 14
the Park Department asked that an appraisal be done for the amount to
be paid for park dedIcation on their plat. The appraIsal came in at
$5,520; but she felt It is very inaccurate. Some of the pictures have
been taken of the Coon Rapid's land and the arrows on the maps are
pointed In the wrong location. She also showed two pictures of their
property.
Mr. Haas noted some errors In the report: Page 7, arrow pointed to
the wrong property; Page 8, park area chosen by the Park Board should
be In the area of Lot 3, Block 2; Page 9, should be .6 acres, not .62
acres; and Pages 11 and 19, arrows pointed to the wrong property. He
stated those errors would not change the comparables.
Ms. Olson - stated there are a total of six lots In Kirby Estates,
and the appraisal for park dedication Is about $900 a lot, feeling
that Is very extravagant. They are only paying $385 per lot for parks
on the Coon Rapids side. She thought the Intent of this procedure was
not to have high park fees or to push developers away. She also
questioned whether the City would want the outlot appraised at $9,600
since the City will be purchasing that for pondlng.
Marc McMullen, Park Board Chairman, stated $900 a lot is misleading
because the outlot Is taken Into consideration for the appraisal.
Curtis Larson. Appraiser - stated his assignment was to value the
overa II property as raw land prior to any subdivision. He looked for
comparables in the market and applied the 10 percent park dedication
fee based on the overall land. He took pictures of the raw land from
131st. He stated he discussed the procedure he used with Ms. Olson.
Ms. Olson - stated Mr. Larson was standing at 132nd when the
pictures were taken, which Is 330 feet away from where the plat Is and
Is in the City of Coon Rapids.
Mr. Larson - noted a typographical error In the report, as it should
read from 132nd. He also aCknowledged he did not walk into the woods
of their property in Andover. He used the soils maps and half-section
maps to determine topography.
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(Kirby Estates Park Dedication, Continued)
Ms. OJ son - stated there Is c]early a big difference in topography
between their property .In Coon Rapids, which Is 888.9 and 889, and
that in Andover, which Is 881 and 880. She questioned the value of
the lowland.
Mr. Larson - realized the difference, again noted he valued the
overall land. There rea II y isn't a lot of unusable lowland unless I t
Is designated a conservation district. Many times plats are designed
to take the lowlands into account, and then the lowlands Increase in
value as people want the prIvacy and natural surroundIngs behind their
lots. He again emphasized that the appraisa] is based on the overa II
raw land.
Mr. and Ms. Olson - stated no one would pay them $9,000 for the
pond and noted all the comparable sales were in Coon Rapids.
Mr. Larson - agreed that aJI comparable sales were in Coon Rapids,
as there were no comparable saJes of property In the City of Andover.
He stated he used the best sales avallabJe. Attorney Hawkins noted
the park dedication is based on high, dry, usable land; and If the
City chooses not to take the land, the fee Is to be an equIvalent
amount In cash based on the fair market va]ue.
Ms. OJson - argued a lot of that hIgh, dry, avalJable land wi] I have
to be filled In order to get six lots. Attorney Hawkins also noted
the developers have to dedicate high, usable land for parks; however,
the CI ty will be buying 10wIand, so there may be a dIfference In
value. He hasn't seen the appraisal of the out Jot.
Councllmember Orttel noted Coon Rapids area assessed for utlJities
years ago, which is reflected in the va]ue of the land. Andover does
not assess until the proJect Is in. He felt that does affect the land
values between both cities, as that In Coon RapIds would be several
thousand do]lars higher because of the assessments. He a]so
questioned Including the outlot In the overa II value. In the rural
areas the low]ands are generalJy Jeft out of the plat; but In this
case the City asked that It become an outlot..
Mr. Larson - agreed to check with Coon Rapids regarding any area
assessments that may be over the comparable properties he used. If
there Is, he wi J I review the values. It may change the values, but
not necessarlIy. He said he would report back on his findings.
Counc II agreed to continue the Item until the appraisal Is reviewed.
The Item is to be placed on the September 19 Council Agenda along with
an update of negotiations for the City's acquisition of the ponding
area in Kirby Estates.
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WATT'S GARDEN ACRES STORM DRAINAGE HEARING. CONTINUED
Hubert Sml th. 13309 Jav Street - stated In July, 1986, the same
storm sewer proJect that was Just approved was estimated at a cost of
$93,000. That same system Is now $153,000. He felt Andover Is at the
mercy of Coon Rapids and that Andover Is the loser. He noted a pond
has been moved out of Coon Rapids and into Andover so Andover loses
lots: Coon Rapids gains two. He wanted to know why the costs have
doubled. Mr. Schrantz noted one of the costs have doubled, and Coon
Rapids has explained the cost overruns to the Council.
Attorney Hawkins advised that the hearing was held over from August 15
and must be reopened, hear whatever additional public testimony there
is, then act on the proJect.
Mayor EJJlng asked for a motion to close the public hearing.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, to so move. Motion carried
unanimously.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, that we rescind the motion
for Improvement 89-19, the Improvement of Watt's Garden Acres.
Motion carried unanimously. (Motion made at the August 29 Special
Council Meeting which orders the Improvement and directs preparation
of the final plans and specifications)
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Jacobson, to reintroduce that
Resolution. (See Resolution R149-89) Motion carrJed unanImously.
Mr. Schrantz asked If the Council wishes to assess Mr. Smith at this
time or to walt. Counc I 1 agreed to walt since the Improvements are
the result of someone else's development.
Counc II recessed at 9:45; reconvened at 9:54 p.m.
SELECTION OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONSULTANT
Mr. Blake reviewed the recommendation from the Planning Commission to
contract with Urbanalysls to work with the City to update the
Comprehensive PJan.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, that the City Council concur
with the recommendation of the Planning Commission and that the firm
of Urbanalysis be selected to work with the City to update its
Comprehensive PJan at the bid price given to the City by Urbanalysls.
Dr SCUSS I ON : Councllmember Orttel didn't think the firm had any
experience with the Metropolitan Council and cities the size of
Andover. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, l-No (Orttel) vote.
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COMPUTER DISCUSSION
Mr. Koollck reviewed the background work he has done to arrive at a
recommendation for hardware and software for the City. He noted that
he did not take cost Into consideration when looking for the best
solution, acknowledging the system that Is proposed Is expensive. But
he felt It Is also one of the better systems and will do the Job. Mr.
KooJock reviewed the proposal by Business Records Corporation. The
scaled back proposal would cost about $71,000, asking for direction
from the Council at this point.
Counc I I discussed the proposal by BRC noting the advantages and
disadvantages of the system. Mr. Koollck also noted IBM has a State
contract, which is about a $6,000 difference In the hardware.
Councilmember Jacobson felt there Is a lot of room for negotiations in
the prices quoted. Mr. Koollck stated this Is not a forma] bid from
BRC but a close estimate.
Because of the budget concerns, Counc i I agreed no decisions can be
made un tll after the September 20 budget meeting. In the meantime,
Mr. Koollck was asked to look Into acquiring a used System 36, Into
the costs of leasing for three, four or five years, and the costs If
the color station is eliminated. Those figures are to be discussed at
the September 20 meeting.
APPROVE JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT WITH HAM LAKE
Mayor Elling stated he did talk with Ham Lake's Mayor Schuitz, and she
had no specific reason for wanting University Avenue Improved between
157th and Constance Boulevard other than for convenience. Also, Anoka
County does not care when University Is put through to Constance.
Because the City's road Improvement plan does not cal I for this
project until 1991 and there are no funds to do It this year, the
Counc II generally agreed It would not enter Into the Joint powers
agreement with the City of Ham Lake at this time.
APPROVE JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT/CROOKED LAKE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT
Attorney Hawkins explained the School DIstrict's concern Is If the
City has a community schoo] program, why should they be responsIble if
someone gets hurt. The Agreement is that that School District is
responsible for children during school functl ons, and the City is
responsible during Its programs of community school, etc. He stated
the City does have Insurance to cover this, and he didn't see a real
probl em wi th It. Otherwise the Agreement covers the poInts the
Counc il was concerned with, and he is comfortable with it.
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<Joint Powers Agreement/Crooked Lake Playground Equipment, Continued)
MOTION by Ortte], Seconded by Perry, to approve the Joint Powers
Agreement for the Joint construction of Crooked Lake Elementary School
playground, and authorize the Mayor and Administrator to sign It.
Motion carried unanimously.
ACCEPT PETITION. ORDER FEASIBILITY/89-22/WANDERSEE ADDITION
MOTION by Jacobson. Seconded by Perry. the Resolution as presented.
(See Resolution R152-89 declaring adequacy of petition and ordering
prepartatlon of feasibility report for the Improvements of watermaln,
sanitary sewer, storm drain, and streets with concrete curb and
gutter, ProJect No. 89-22 In the Wandersee Addition) DISCUSSION:
Bill LeFebvre. 14278 Undercllft - has someone Interested In buying
his lot adJoining the Wandersee Addition. He asked if he would have
access to water from the Wandersee AddItion or should he telI the
buyer to drl I J his own well. Mr. Schrantz exp]ained the difficulty
of serving the Wandersee Addition with sewer and water, as It must
come In from Round Lake Boulevard through a road that Is proposed to
be bu I I t In the future. It will Impact the Hagens.
Council felt Mr. LeFebvre's lot should be able to be served from the
Wandersee Addition, but recommended waiting to see what the
feasibIlity report says. It was thought the feasibility report would
be on the September 19 Council Agenda. Motion carried unanlmous]y.
NON-DISCUSSION ITEMS
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, that we approve Item No. 13,
Approve Compostlng Resolution (See Resolution R153-89); Item 15,
Accept Easements <from Reynolds and McGary for TuIlp Street ProJect
and from Brlchacek on UpIander); Item 16, Adopt Resolution/Humane
Society Month (See Resolution R154-89); and Item No. 18, Approve FInal
Payment/Old Colony Estates/88-8 (See Resolution R155-89). Motion
carried unanimously.
RELEASE GRADING ESCROW/RED OAKS 5TH
CounclImember Jacobson was concerned that the note from TKDA
suggesting the grading escrow be released was not very specific, the
note stating the site Is "generally in compliance" with the drainage
and grading plan. Given the recent grading problem In another p]at,
he wanted to make sure that such problems do not happen again.
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(Release Grading Escrow/Red Oaks 5th, Continued)
Mayor Elling noted the Building Official will 100k at the lots when
the house permIts come In to see that the grading on each lot Is In
compl iance. Councllmember Orttel felt that there should be assurances
that the drainage system works, and the rest of It shouldn't be of
concern as long as It doesn't Impact the drainage.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, that we release the grading
escrow for Red Oaks Manor 5th Addition. Motion carried on a 4-Yes,
l-No (Jacobson) vote.
APPROVE CHANGE ORDERS/89-1: 89-2
Harlan Olson, BRA, reviewed the two change orders for the Ward Lake
Drive and Tulip Street projects. Change Order No. 2 for Ward Lake
Drive is for the retaining wall to save the roots of the oak trees and
for additional gradl ng on 166th Avenue onto Ward Lake Drive that was
not graded according to the plans several years ago. That portion on
166th wi II be charged back to the developer.
Mr. Olson also noted on the fIrst change order approved last month,
they were not able to obtain the easements according to the plan, so
they had to change some of the easements resulting In the removal of
many trees. Mayor Elling felt the time to address these problems Is
before the proJect Is begin, not after the bids are Jet. Mr. Schrantz
explained one of the problems is rushing to get the proJect done
before a] I the easement Is dedicated. The policy aJso forces them to
negotiate with everyone for easement, which can put them In a bind.
Mr. Olson stated he did not anticipate any further change orders on
this proJect.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Jacobson, to approve Change Orders
Numbers 2 and 3 for ProJects 89-1 and 89-2. Motion carried
unanimously.
APPROVE PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS/88-16/173RD AND NAVAJO
Mayor Elling noted the last petition with four signatures asking for
NavaJo north to be paved and that the assessment against Mike Knight
be deferred. Staff has said It Is an adequate petition. This would
be at a different rate and a different project number from 173rd. The
Mayor also noted the assessment policy needs to be reviewed wIth
consideration gIven to deferring an assessment to avoid forcing
premature development. He aIso told the petitioners that the proJect
probab1y couJd not be done this year. The problem Is then it will
probably be too expensive to do. Mr. Schrantz didn't think It was
possible to do it this year because the hearing process needs to be
started over again.
Regular City Council Meeting
September 5, 1989 - Minutes
Page 13
(Approve Plans and Speclficatlons/88-16/173rd and NavaJo, Continued)
Mr. Schrantz stated the only way NavaJo could be less is If It Is
combined wi th 173rd and those on 173rd pick up more of the costs.
Because that hearing Is already closed, the Counc II didn't feel that
was an option.
MOTION by Orttel to approve the ResolutIon with the alternate of the
area of NavaJo St~eet north to 175th. There was no Second.
DISCUSSION: Discussion noted the only advantage to doing the 173rd
and NavaJo north together would be for mobilization costs, etc. Also,
NavaJo Street cannot be included with 173rd at this time because none
of the hearings have been held yet. Mr. Schrantz also noted 173rd
Is not on the secti on line, though the Attorney has said the City has
the required easements.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Jacobson. the Resolution without the
alternate. (See Resolution R156-89 approvIng fInal plans and
specifications and ordering advertisement for bids for ProJect No.
88-16, 173rd Avenue for street and storm drainage construction)
Motion carried unanimously. No further action was taken on the
NavaJo Street north petition.
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Perry, to authorize payment of
Checks Numbers 17152 through 17257 In the amount of $357,514.58.
Motion carried unanImously.
MOTION by Jacobson to adJourn. Motion carried unanimously.
Meeting adJourned at 11:12 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Mar .1 a A. Peach
Recording Secretary