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CITY of ANDOVER
SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING - NOVEMBER 24, 1987 - AGENDA
7:30 P.M. I. Call to order
2. Lund's Evergreen Estates 4th Addition Final Plat, Cont.
3. V. Erickson Water Service
4. Storm Drainage plan/87-11/School, Winslow Hills,
Oak Bluff
5. Vacation of Easement Public Hearing, Cont.
6. Commercial Park Lot Prices
7. 4M Fund
8. City Hall Addition Sprinkling
9. Crosstown Drainage Plan/87-3B
10. Contract Change Orders/87-3B, 87-10, 87-7
11. Approval of Minutes
12.
13. Adjournment
FUTURE ITEMS:
·Assessment Manual
·County Road Assessments
·Grading and Filling Permit
·Sign Ordinance
·Budget
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.~""~;¡-j<' SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING - NOVEMBER 24. 1987
MINUTES
A Special MeetIng of the Andover City Council was called to order by
Mayor Jerry Windschltl on November 24, 1987, 7:33 p.m., at the Andover
City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmen present: Apel, Elling, Knight (arrived at 8:25 p.m.),
Orttel
Councilmen absent: None
Also present: City Attorney, William G. Hawkins; TKDA
Engineers John Davidson and John Rodebe~g; City
Staff, Todd Haas, Daryl Morey, Dave Almgren,
Frank Stone, and James Schrantz; and others
LUND'S EVERGREEN ESTATES 4TH ADDITION FINAL PLAT. CONTINUED
Mr. Lund stated he has receipts from the City that he paid the
warranty escrow In the amount of $11,875, the park dedication fees of
$1,400, and the security in the amount of $2,950 to cover legal,
engineering, consultant, street signs and Installation costs. He also
stated the plat has been graded according to Mr. Haas' specifications.
In addition, 167th Lane has been completed to the adjoining plat.
Attorney Hawkins advised the title is acceptable.
Counc i I agreed to hold this Item until Mr. Haas Is able to verify the
above. Action was taken later in the meeting.
VIOLET ERICKSON WATER SERVICE
Counc II noted the memo from Mr. Almgren that the Anoka County
Community Action Program will pay for the hookup, SAC, permit, and
abandonment of the shallow well for Ms. Erickson. Mayor Wlndschltl
stated he was Informed there Is a slmillar sItuation across from Ms.
Erickson, asking the staff to Investigate It.
Staff was directed to proceed with getting Ms. Erickson hooked up with
municipal sewer and water.
4M FUND
Mr. Hawkins explained they looked at the various debt service funds
and determined the monetary needs over the next 30, 60, and 90 days.
Because the City is not equipped to invest the funds In CDs very well,
he felt It would be advantageous to Invest some of the funds over a
longer term through the 4M fund. Those rates for the last quarter are
higher than what the City is making on its CDs. It is a qual !tying
fund at fixed rates.
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Special Ci ty Council Meeting
November 24. 1987 - Minutes
Page 2
(4M Fund. Continued)
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Elling, a Resolution authorizing entry
Into a Joint powers agreement In the form of a declaration of trust
establ Îshlng an enti ty known as "Minnesota Municipal Money Market
Fund" and authorizing participation In certain investment programs in
connection therewith, and authorize the proper City officials to sign
the Joint powers agreement. (See Resolution R233-87) Motion carried
on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Knight) vote.
LUND' S EVERGREEN ESTATES 4TH ADDITION FINAL PLAT. CONT INUED
Mr. Haas verified everything was complete except an inspection of the
grading on site.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Apel, a Resolution approving the final
plat of Lund's Evergreen Estates 4th Addition as being developed by
James Lund In Section 09-32-24 as prepared, with the exception of the
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, add No. 4, subject to the engineer's
approval of construction of 167th; Inserting the amount of security
In the amount of $2,950: and add No. 5, the engineer's acceptance of
grading on the plat. (See Resolution R234-87) Motion carried on a
4-Yes, I-Absent (Knight) vote.
STORM DRAINAGE PLAN/87-11/SCHOOL. WINSLOW HILLS. OAK BLUFF
Mr. Rodeberg reviewed the preliminary report dated November 24, 1987,
for the Andover elementary school storm sewer Improvements, Project
87-11B, which Includes Winslow Hills and Oak Bluff 2nd Addition. He
explained the drainage through the area, the proposed pondlng for
water detention. and the proposed storm sewer lines to be constructed,
noting the design was done for the ultimate development of the area.
Mr. Rodeberg explained it will basically be two separate systems
because of the topography, noting most of Winslow Hills and Oak Bluffs
1st Addition will go to the east. Because Mr. Holasek did not want to
disturb the existing ditch through the sod fields, they have proposed
storm sewer pipe be Instal led down Xeon and east to the rai lroad
tracks, then culvert under the tracks Into County Ditch No. 20 which
flows Into Coon Creek.
Mr. Rodeberg went on to explain the proposed system which could
eventually benefit the City Hall site but will currently benefit a
portion of Winslow Hills, Oak Bluff 2nd Addition, the school site,
Santa's Tree Farm and the Hupp property south of Andover Boulevard.
The storm drainage line would run along the the western side of the
highway right of way or on the outside within the utility easement. At
Speciai City Council Meet! ng
November 24. 1987 - Minutes
Page 3
(Storm Drainage Plan, 87-11 , Continued)
the present time he felt they would utllitize the existing ditch that
runs through Mr. Hupp's property and construct a pipe when development
warrants It. They would also construct an equalizer pipe under Hanson
Boulevard between the two ponds proposed for either side of Hanson
just north of Andover Boulevard.
CouncIlman EJling expressed concern about possible flooding of some of
the lots In Barne's Rolling Oaks if additional water Is run to County
Ditch 20. Mr. Rodeberg felt they should be looking to rerouting that
ditch to put it more on property lines. The existing wetland and
pondlng would detain the water fiow so flooding should not be a
problem.
Councilman E]ling asked how the City can go back to assess if the pipe
through the Hupp property is constructed in the future. Mr. Rodeberg
stated the Councli must address the assessment of the project as I t
relates to parcels such as Santa's Tree Farm which Is not being
developed at this time. They wi] J estimate the total construction
cost in Its final design, thinking as the properties develop they
would pay their share of the storm drainage system. Or al] properties
can be assessed now so the City wouldn't have to carry a large capita]
au t I ay in the beginning. Mr. ROdeberg also stated If there no further
development than what is already known, the ditch on the Hupp property
needs lit tie improvement to handle the existing water.
Counc i I discussion with the engingeers was on the flow from specific
areas and on the overa] i proposal of the storm drainage plan. Mr.
Rodeberg expJained the pond on the school property is designed to
drain dry. Using the proposed plat of Oak BJuff 2nd Addition, he felt
there should be no problem with a dry pond in that pJat, though that
wouJd not perform the functions that the Coon Creek Watecshed Is
looking for In terms of siltation.
Winslow Hoiasek - asked if they plan to excavate and deepen the
ponds. Mr. Rodeberg said they don't pian on It, but they wi II leave
them basically as they are.
Mr. Holasek - felt the pipe a]ong Xeon shouJd be run north through
and past the biuff to get to the open ditch. He a] so though t the pipe
should run down the right of way of the proposed Xeon street. Mr.
HoJasek also asked about the possibility of running the pipe straight
south to Coon Creek from Xeon, thinking it would be shorter than going
east past the railroad tracks. Mr. Rodeberg and Mr. Davidson
explained they do not yet know the development pJan of the Gaughan
properti es. Also, they felt the distance would be quite a bit longer
and the pipe would need to be much deeper to go straight south as
opposed to their recommendation.
Special Ci ty Council Meeting
November 24. 1987 - Minutes
Page 4
(Storm Drainage Plan, 87-11, Continued)
Mr. Holasek - felt that that should be reviewed again, st ill
thinking It might be more economical to go through the plat of the
Gaughan property. He also asked them to look at the possibility of
running the pipe west from Xeon and Andover Boulevard to connect with
the system at the corner of Andover and Hanson Boulevards. Mr.
Holasek asked who is assessed the costs of the system.
Mayor Windschlt I explained the costs are assessed to whatever property
drains Into it, developed or undeveloped. The only exception is Chuck
Cook has agreed to pay the assessments for Oak Bluff 1st Addl t I on In
the Oak Bluff 2nd Addition. Storm drainage costs are normally
assessed on a square footage basis.
Mr. Holasek - stated he would not want an assessment against the
rest of his land that will never be developed.
(Councilman Knight arrived at this time. 8:25 p.m.)
Discussion continued with Mr. HoJasek regarding the assessment for the
proposed project, with the Mayor noting it will be a CouncIl decision
whether all costs wi II be assessed up front, whether some will be
deferred, or whether they are assessed as development occurs.
Mr. Holasek - stated currently there Is sufficient pondlng on his
property to handle the proposed develoment. He didn't feel an ou tIe t
would be needed until the next phase Is developed, suggesting no
construction be done until It Is needed. Mr. Rodeberg agreed it Isn't
needed now but felt it should be done before much more development
occurs In the area. Counc i I also noted some arrangement can be worked
out to defer the assessment on undeveloped land.
Chuck Cook - asked the benefitted area for Line 1 of the system.
Me. Rodeberg pointed out that area on the map. He also explained the
size of the pipe has been changed to 42 inches because the pondlng and
open ditches reduce the need for larger pipe.
Mr. Cook - asked If Santa's Tree Farm property will be assessed even
though they cannot develop for 10 or 15 years. Counc I 1 noted those
decisions have not yet been made, though the owners of that property
chose to postpone development until that time.
Discussion was then on the ponding, specifically the proposed pond in
Oak Bluff 2nd Addition. Mr. Rodeberg stated it wouldn't make much
di fference in the proposed system whether that pond is wet or dry.
But he felt some pondlng will be necessary, either wet or dry. The
Coon Creek Watershed would prefer deeper ponds for sediment.
Special Ci ty Counci 1 Meeting
November 24, 1987 - Minutes
Page 5
<Storm DraInage Plan, 87-11, Continued)
Mr. Cook explaIned the pond has been designed with 10 to 1 slopes and
to hold 6 feet of standing water. He preferred the pond with standing
water, feeling it is an amenity to the area. Also, he felt a wet pond
would be preferable because the water table is so close to the
surface. If there would be no pond at all, he wouldn't get
enough lots to justify putting In the extra roads.
Mr. Schrantz stated the Staff's position Is that there be no pond or
that the pond be dry, noting the frustations of the pond in another
development. Also, the lots surrounding the pond only have 100 feet
of buildable area because of the large easement In the back of the
lots.
Mr. Cook - stated the other development had slopes of 3 to 1, but
Oak Bluff 2nd will be sloped 10 to 1. Also, the pond is of sufficient
size so the water level wi I J not encroach on the rear property lines
of those lots.
Council directed the EngIneers to provide profiles of the proposed
pond in Oak Bluff 2nd Addition to compare with profiles of the
Creekrldge development where the the wet pond has been troublesome.
AJso, the Engineers are to provide a cost estimate of the storm
drainage project and proposed assessment. This Item Is to be on the
December 1 Agenda.
VACATION OF EASEMENT PUBLIC HEARING
Mr. Rodeberg proposed a drainage easement to an elevation of 892 feet.
He didn't know the elevation of the fill placed within the easement on
Lot 7, Block 2, Oak Bluff 1st Addition. Mr. Haas estimated that
elevation to be at the existing drainage easement line. The existing
easement provides for the 100-year flood.
Charles Moerke. 1237 148th Lane - stated the Jot has been surveyed
and staked to the elevation of 890. He has a walkout basement, and
there would be hardly any back yard if he had not sloped a part of it.
He did place the septic system in front of the house.
Mr. Rodeberg felt the filling done by Mr. Moerke wi 11 be negligibJe in
the scheme of things, but he wouldn't want everyone filling in along
that J Ine. Council questioned whether Mr. Moerke should be required
to remove the fill, or whether they shouJd ackcnowJedge that I twas
f 11 I ed to landscape the property but that no additional fi I ling would
be permitted under any circumstances.
Special CIty Council Meeting
November 24, 1987 - MInutes
Page 6
(VacatIon of Easement PublIc Hearing, ContInued)
MOTION by E]IIng, Seconded by Orttel, that we acknowledge that the
owner of Lot 7, B10ck 2, Oak Bluff AddItion, has filled into the
drainage easement approxImately 2 feet to the 100-year flood contour
line and that we would a110w thIs to remaIn; and that If we in the
future need to use that area for flood contro], that the fill would
have to be removed; and the easement would stay In place. Motion
carrIed unanimously.
CROSSTOWN DRAINAGE PLAN/87-3B
Mr. Rodeberg revIewed the plan of the proposed detention area as a
sIltation pond for storm sewer along Crosstown Boulevard at the
southeast corner of Coon Creek and Crosstown Bou1evard. There Is no
hazardous waste in that area and there are no pJans to fence It in.
The area would be acquired for a drainage and utility easement, not
an outright purchase of the 1and. Attorney Hawkins felt there would
be no problem with liability if just an easement were acquired on that
property.
MOTION by KnIght, Seconded by Orttel, to approve the plan presented
here with the stipulatIon that the plan follow the 100-year flood lIne
as close as possIble and insure that we exclude any test wells within
our easement. Motion carried on a 3-Yes, I-No <Elling), 1-Present
(Wlndschltl).
Attorney HawkIns advised the Counci] that the county wants the CIty to
sign an agreement regardIng the tax forfeit properties along Crosstown
Boulevard IndemnIfying them if anythIng happens as a result of the
CIty's project. He saw no problem wIth the request. Counc i I
questIoned the agreement as the City is responsIble for Its project
and such an agreement has never been required before.
Attorney Hawkins agreed to find out the county's polIcy and whether
such an agreement Is requIred of al] cities.
CONTRACT CHANGE ORDERS
Mr. Rodeber9 reviewed a change order to Channel ConstructIon on South
Coon Creek Drive to match the driveways because of the change In
grades comIng off Uplander.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Apel, the approva] of Change Order No.
3 on Project 87-7 in the amount of $1,265.42 to be reduced by any
reductIon avaIlable due to payment terms on the return of the special
concrete products. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, 1-Present (Wlndschitl)
vote.
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Special CI ty Counci I Meeting
November 24, 1987 - Minutes
Page 7
COMMERCIAL PARK LOT PRICES
Attorney Hawkins reviewed his November 20 letter to the Mayor on the
financing for the Andover Commercial Park. The Internal Improvement
costs amount to $584.000 and will be financed from the tax increment
revenues and lot saJe proceeds. The land acquisition costs amount to
$205,000, recommending the sale of temporary bonds for the land
acquisition costs. It would be a taxable, negotiated issue, expecting
an interest rate of 8 to 9 percent. He asked for authorization to
solicit a bid from Miller & Schroeder Investments for the purchase of
these bonds.
MOTION by Ape 1, Seconded by Elling, that the Counc II give Mr.
Hawkins the authorization to pursue the issuance of the bond In a
private placement per his Jetter of November 20. Motion carried
unanimously.
Mr. Hawkins then reviewed the appraiser's valuation of the lots In the
Commercial Park at 65 to 85 cents a square foot. Mr. Morey reviewed
his calcuatlons to arrive at a cost per square foot using two
different scenarios.
There was a lengthy Counc II discussion regarding the pricing of the
lots in the Commercial Park and the best uses of the various lots In
the development. It was agreed Mr. Morey would be the City's
representative In negotiating with Interested businesses for the sale
of the lots. Counc i I did not want to go below 50 cents per square
foot, but felt the range of 50 to 60 cents per square foot would be
reasonable depending on the location of the lot, type of business, and
development agreement negotiated. It was also felt the lots on the
perimeter should sell for a higher price, with negotiations beginning
at 65 cents per square foot. Negotiations to sell the interior lots
should begin at 60 cents per square foot.
CITY HALL ADDITION SPRINKLING
Mr. AJmgren explained the cost to sprinkle the addition to the City
Hall would cost about $5,000, with the biggest cost being the control
values, backflow prevention. etc. It would cost about $10,000 to
sprinkle the entire building. Without municipal water, the I ines would
be dry I f the system were Installed now. He felt it would be
relatively simple to add the sprinkling system In the future because
of the false ceiling.
Counc i I agreed not to expend the money for an Inoperable sprinkling
system at this time, recognizing the system would need to be InstalJed
if another addition were added onto the City Hall In the future.
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Special City Council Meeting
November 24. 1967 - Minutes
Page 8
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION by OrtteJ, Seconded by Apel, to approve the Minutes as
written for September 15 Regular Meeting, September 15 HRA, September
17 Assessment Hearing, September 29 SpecIal Meeting, October 6 Regular
Meeting, October 13 Special Meeting, November 3 Regular Meeting, and
November 3 HRA Meeting. Motion carried unanimously except for a
Present vote by Windschltl on those sections of the Minutes which
dIrectly affect him.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Apel, to approve minutes of September
22, 1967, Special Meeting as written. Motion carried on a 4-Yes,
I-Present (Knight) vote except for a Present vote by Windschitl on
those sections of the Minutes which directly affect him.
MOTION Orttel, Seconded by Elling, the Minutes of the November 5
Special Meeting as written. Motion carried on a 3-Yes, 2-Present
(Apel, Knight) vote except for a Present vote by Windschitl on those
sections of the Minutes which directly affect him.
MOTION by Apel, Seconded by Knight, that the Minutes for October 20
Regular Meeting be approved. Motion carried on a 4-Yes, I-Present
(Orttel) vote except for a Present vote by Windschitl on those
sections of the Minutes which directly affect him.
MOTION by Apel, Seconded by Knight, that we approve the Minutes of
the Special Meeting held on October 20. Motion carried on a 4-Yes,
I-Present (Orttel) vote except for a Present vote by Windschitl on
those sections of the Minutes which directJy affect him.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Apel, to adjourn. Motion carried
unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 10:27 p.m.
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M Jla A. Peach
Recording Secretary