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CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - FEBRUARY 17, 1987 - AGENDA
7:30 P.M. 1. Call to order
2. Resident Forum
~ Agenda Approval
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4 . Discussion Items
a. Winslow Hills Sketch Plan
b. Round Barn Special Use Permit
c. Junkyard License Renewals
d. Commercial Building Ordinance
e. Batson's Industrial Park Preliminary Plat
f. Woodland Estates Discussion
g. Preliminary Plat Expense/C. Smith
h. Coon Creek Bridge Property
*' Ordinance 40 Amendment, Cont.
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5. Staff, Committee, Commission Reports
a. Public Works/Purchase Hydraulic Truck Conveyor
b. Ordinance 47A Amendment
c. Purchase Plan Hold File
d. Fire Department Phone Line
e.
6. Non-Discussion Items
a. Ordinance 8 Amendment/Waste Tires
b. 133rd Avenue/86-21/Agreement w/Coon Rapids
c. County Road 18 Relocated Agreement w/County
d. Forest Meadows/ward Lake Drive Area Draft Report
*e. Assessment Abatements
*f. Final Approval of Comprehensive Sewer Staging
Plan
g.
7. Approval of Minutes
8 . Approval of Claims
9. Adjournment
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CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - FEBRUARY 17, 1987
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was ca] led
to order by Mayor Jerry Windschitl on February 17, 1987, 7:30 p.m., at
the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover,
Minnesota.
Councilmen present: Ell ing, Kn I gh t , Lach i nsk i , Orttel
Councilmen absent: None
Also present: City Attorney, John Burke; PlannIng and Zoning
CommIssion Chairman, Maynard Apel: City
EngineerIng Tech, Todd Haas; City AdmInistrator,
James Schrantz: and others
RESIDENT FORUM
Dick Schneider. 1343 Andover Boulevard - presented a petitIon from
resIdents basically along Andover Boulevard opposing the extensIon of
sewer and water to the area north of Coon Creek and east of Crosstown
Boulevard. He stated the petItIon was taken around on short notice,
stating they could get many more signatures if there was more time.
He stated they will also present a copy of the petition to the school
board and to the Metropolitan Council.
Ernie Trettel - owns 30 acres on Andover Boulevard, 10 on the south
side and 20 on the north. He is aJso opposed to ever beIng assessed a
trunk char:ge. He felt he wouldn't ever have a need for it and doesn't
have a benefit fr:om it as long as he continues his operations as he
plans to. He also didn't feel his pr:operty wouJd be worth $50,000 more
when he Is assessed for the tr:unk line. Those benefitting will be the
developer:s, suggesting the assessment formula be changed to a per
household char:ge and Jower the per acre charge so the deveJopers pay
for the line. He also asked why the ar:eas such as Evergreen Estates
have been totally exempted fr:om the tr:unk charge, feeling they should
pay a portion of the costs since they wilJ benefit fr:om the new
development because of higher: property values, shopping centers, etc.
Mr. Trettel aJso asked what recourse he has If he opposes thIs.
Mr. Burke reviewed the legaJ remedies residents have thr:ough the court
system, advIsIng he should contact his own attorney in such a matter.
Mayor Wlndschitl also explained under the pr:oposal, the first time he
could be assessed for the sewer trunk would be 1995; but another
hearIng would be held fIrst before any assessment wouJd be levIed
against his property. Counc I J discussion with Mr. TrettJe was this
has been an attempt to mInimize the effect the impact this has on
people I ike him. Conslder:ation to levy the assessment before 1995
would not be done unJess those affected petItIoned for it. And to
honor the petition, capacity would have to be traded from some other
area or request the Metropolitan Council for addl t! ona I capacity.
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February 17, 1987 - Minutes
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(ResIdent Forum, Continued)
The intent Is also that sewer would not be available to that area
before 1995. Counc i I also explained most citIes Just levy a blanket
assessment, but Andover has attempted to meet the needs of its
residents. The Andover Boulevard area is surrounded by requests for
munIcipal sewer and water, yet the Counc i I has been sympathetic to the
hobby farmers there and delayed any possible assessment to them for at
least eight years.
FInally, the Counc II explained how the assessment policy and per-acre
charge was initially developed so everyone utlimately pays the same
costs for the sewer facilities.
Mr. Trettel - dId not object to providing sewer to the developers if
they pay for it. But he cannot afford the $50,000 for area charge
plus another $40,000 for laterals. Mayor Wlndschltl explained that
the lateral charge normally accrues when people develop their
property.
Curt Steffenson. 15411 Nlqhtenqale - stated at the first meeting he
stated he did not want sewer until beyond the year 2000. He wants to
change that to 1988 - 1990. Counc i I noted it would be more
appropriate for the years 1990-1995, which is the same for the
property adjoining his. This was discussed again later in the
evening under the agenda Item of Comprehensive Sewer Stating Plan.
AGENDA APPROVAL
It was suggested the following items be added to the Agenda: Item 4J,
Shopping Center (Final Bond Sale Date, Restaurant, and Day Care
Center) ; 4k, Computer; and Update on Ham Lake WInter FestIval at 9
o'clock.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Elling, to approve the Agenda as
amended. Motion carrIed unanimously.
WINSLOW HILLS SKETCH PLAN
Counc I I generally felt the cuI de sacs within the sketch plan should
be determined Individually whether or not they should be allowed,
noting staff's proposal for possibly elIminatIng all cuI de sac.
Gary Gorham, Gorham BuIlders, and Winslow Holasek, the developer, were
present. Mr. Gorham stated there will be approximately 400 lots
proposed to be developed in about four phases. He said from a
development standpoint, cuI de sacs are desIrable and are what the
people want. They would not object to elimInating the three cuI de
sacs of 152nd Lane, 151st, and Zenia as suggested by the staff.
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Page 3
(Winslow Hills Sketch Plan, Continued)
They oppose eliminating 152nd going west toward the commercial area
and Drake goIng north on 150th Lane. He felt connecting those two cuI
de sacs would result in a traffic problem in the future by usIng that
cIty street as a cutoff between Hanson and Crosstown Boulevards. They
would have no problem matching Bluebird with 152nd Lane north of
Crosstown. .
Councl I agreed wIth the staff recommendation to provide the ability to
enter the commercial arcas Internally.
Mr. Gorham stated the larger lots to the north were submitted with the
thinking if the area directly to the north develops, somethIng could
be worked out for this area at the same time. Mr. Holasek stated that
would be the last phase, notIng other arrangements possible for the
street location or lot configuratIons on the lots north of Crosstown
Boulevard. He also noted that area Is not owned by him. Counc i I
stated the owner's name should appear on the plat.
Counc II then reviewed the cuI de sacs and agreed to the followIng:
152nd to the east should either extend eastward to Unity or southerly:
151st and Xeon to remain cuI de sacs due to the topography; that Xeon
would not extend to the south to the exception; that the developers
are to look at possIbilities for connecting two or all three of the
cuI de sacs of Flamingo, Eagle, and Drake; that 149th would not tie
into Hanson Bouelvard but should be extended eastward to the
exception: that the cuI de sacs of 152nd and Drake by the commercIal
area would remain; that Bluebird, 151st, and Xenia in the center of
the plat would be elimInated as proposed by staff, and the cuI de sac
of Albetross would remain but should be renamed.
Mr. Gorham asked about an entrance sign to the development. Counc i I
suggested a sketch be proposed for consIderation. Mayor Windschitl
also stated they have been requirIng bermlng and/or fencing along back
yards of lots abutting commercIal areas.
With the changes dIscussed, the Counc II generally agreed with the
sketch plan and advIsed the developers to proceed through the Planning
and ZonIng CommissIon.
ROUND BARN SPECIAL USE PERMIT
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, a Resolution approving a
Special Use Permit requested by George Adolfson to operate an antique
and gIft business known as the Round Barn located at 3331 Bunker Lake
Boulevard NW, as prepared. DISCUSSION:
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February 17, 1987 - Minutes
Page 4
(Round Ba~n Special Use Permit, ContInued)
Sandv Mv~~e. operator of the Round Barn - asked If they would be
able to expand thei~ business given the conditions of the permi t.
They are considering an expansIon if busIness wa~rants. Also, they
may want to expand their hou~s of ope~atlon. Counc I I dIscussed the
hou~s of operation and agreed it would not be necessa~y to state them
in the permIt. They also advised if there is a desIre to Increase
floor space, they would have to come to the City requesting an amended
Special Use Permit.
CouncIlman Orttel Changed the Motion to: Item 6, referrIng to hours
of operatIon be deJeted from the ResolutIon. Second Stands.
(See Resolution R023-87) MotIon ca~ried unanimously.
JUNKYARD LICENSE RENEWALS
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, that we renew licenses for ATV
Salvage, Bob's Auto Parts, Rite Away Auto Salvage, CommercIal Auto
Parts, and Anoka Auto W~ecklng by legal description of those
propertIes fo~ 1987. Motion car~ied unanImously.
Because Andove~ Auto Pa~ts is not in compliance wIth the o~dinances,
it was agreed to ~efe~ It to the Atto~ney for legal action.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by EllIng, that we subml t the matter of
Andover Auto Parts noncompliance with the Junkyard Ordinance to the
City Attorney for action of revocation. Motion carried unanimously.
COMMERCIAL BUILDING ORDINANCE
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Orttel, Ordinance 78, an OrdInance
~elatlng to commercial building const~uctlon and setting forth
standards and regulatIons within the City of Andover as presented with
the change In Section II, A, " All buildings wIthIn this distrIct
shal I be of mason~y const~uction, Its equIvalent or better. Upon
approval of the Review Committee, wood frame may be considered as
equivalent to masonry. Walls of such buildings...."
VOTE ON MOTION: YES-Knight, Lachlnski, Orttel, Wlndschitl; PRESENT-
Elling as he feels some of the items are already included In other
ordinances. Motion carried.
BATSON'S INDUSTRIAL PARK PRELIMINARY PLAT
Chai~man Apel stated the PlannIng Commission recommends varIances be
given fo~ the sIzes of Lots 1 and 2 because of the area that has to be
dedicated off the property for the County Highway. The County Is
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February 17, 1987 - Minutes
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(Batson's Industrial Park Preliminary Plat, Continued)
requesting 17 feet of easement; and If the City desires to provide for
a future sidewalk, an additional 10 feet should be dedicated.
William Batson - stated the County wants 5,610.3 square feet; and if
the City wants another 10 feet, it means an additional 3,740.2 square
feet, which totals about 9 percent of the property that he has to give
away. Plus he must make a dedication for parks. First the Park Board
told him it would be $10,800; then they called him to say It was
$1,300. He complained of the great number of times he's been before
the Counc il and other Commissions on this matter.
Counc II noted the dedications, both park and easements, are the same
as for any other developer. Counc i I also noted TKDA is preparing a
development plan for the tax increment financing district of which
this is a part. The City has not yet seen that plan, but a special
meeting for February 26 has been scheduled for that item. The
question was how any future road layouts relate to this property and
where easements should be dedIcated for those roadways.
Mr. Batson - stated it gets to the point where it is not feasible to
plat i t i f so much land must be given away for easements. He stated if
the City wants to buy It, make hIm an offer. He stated every time he
comes in, something else is wanted of him; stating pretty soon he
won't have anything left. He stated he has been to the City at least
11 times on this item.
Chairman Apel noted he originally trIed to divide It by lot sp Ii t, but
he was told he would have to plat the property Instead. There was
also a change in it because of the County requirements which they
received in December. Counc II recalled this was only the second time
before the Council, the first being for the sketch plan.
Counc i I also felt it would not be wise to approve this plat until the
overa I I development plan for the area being prepared is reviewed,
suggestIng the possibility of tabling thIs until the March 3 meeting,
At this point Mr. Batson left the meeting. Counc il asked the Staff to
determine if the time had elapsed such that action must be taken this
evening. ThIs item was discussed again later in the meeting.
RESIDENT UPDATE - HAM LAKE MINNESOTA VIKINGS WINTER FESTIVAL
Ron FerTis, Co-Chairman of the group opposing the Minnesota Vikings
Festival in Ham Lake, addressed the Council regarding events that have
taken place to date in their efforts to talk with the Ham Lake City
Counci I. He explaIned their opposItion Is comprised of people from
both Andover and Ham Lake, and reviewed their committee, the concerns
they have about the qualifications of the developer, what they feel
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February 17, 1987 - Minutes
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(Resident Update - Ham Lake Winter Festival, ContInued)
were misrepresentations by the developer, the expansIon of the area of
the permit between the pUblic hearing and Council action, the effect
of the event on public safety, the lowerIng of property values, the
potential Increase In crime In the area, the inability of the area to
accommodate the traffic, etc.
MI'. FerI'is also reviewed conversations and meetings wIth the Ham Lake
Mayor and councilmembers, and the frustratIons of not being able to
address the Ham Lake CouncIl at an open meeting. He stated every
meetIng the Ham Lake Council has had on this Item has been closed to
publIc Input, and I'eported that CouncIl has also cancelled the
February 18 meeting they had specifically set foI' resident Input on
this matter.
MI'. Ferris pI'ovlded the Council with copIes of the plan foI' the
festival, the letter send to all Ham Lake residents by the Ham Lake
Council, and a copy If the new rules regarding attendance at Ham
Lake Council meetings. He stated they are not asking for anything of
the Andover Council otheI' than support In any way they can. But they
feel that unless they continue to oppose this event, it wi I I open
again.
Dick Jeffers, the other co-chaiI' of the group opposing the festival,
also brIefly addressed the CouncIl on this issue, thanking the Council
for the ability to express theiI' concerns.
Counc i I recessed at 9:35¡ reconvened at 9:50 p.m.
WOODLAND ESTATES DISCUSSION
Sylvia Britton and Byron Westlund of Woodland Development were
pI'esent. Ms. Britton stated they have not yet named the proposed
development whIch Is for approximately 232 homes on the Adolfson
pI'operty north of BunkeI' Lake Boulevard wIth a commercIal area In the
fI'ont.
Counc I I directed the developers to look at providing an outlet to
South Coon Creek DrIve from the northern end of the development,
suggesting It be placed as far from the bridge as possible.
DiscussIon was on the exceptIon in the northeastern portion of the
property. Mr. Westlund noted It is about 35 aCI'es of low property.
There has been some consIderatIon of developing a golf course on that
area, but a mInimum of 50 acres Is needed for an 18-hole golf course.
Counc i I generally had no other problems with the sketch plan,
dlI'ectlng that It now proceed through the Planning Commission.
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~kLC WORKS/PURCHASE HYDRAULIC TRUCK CONVEYOR
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinskl, that we approve the
purchase of a hydraulic truck conveyor Model 1200 at a cost of $4,300
and authorize an additional $320 to add the hydraulic cylinder and
hose to operate the feed gate. Motion carried unanImously.
ORDINANCE 47A AMENDMENT
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by KnIght, OrdInance 47B, an Ordinance
amending Ordinance No. 47A, that the City Council of the city of
Andover does hereby ordaIn: OrdInance No. 47A Is hereby amended as
follows: Section 2.12, C. Red Oaks West Park wil] be open from
sunrise to 10:00 p.m. DISCUSSION: Councilman Elling said the change
only closes the park one hour earlier, questioning whether that will
help the problem the residents are having in that area.
VOTE ON MOTION: YES-Knight, Lachinski, Orttel, Wlndschitl; PRESENT-
Ell ing. MotIon carried.
ANDOVER VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT
Fire Chief Bob Palmer felt they do need another phone I ine Into the
Fire Station, though that item was taken out of the budget. Mr.
Schrantz has told him they will probably need all the lines that are
available at the City Hall. He stated it would be $763 for the first
year to run a new line to the Fire Station, which includes
Installation. He doesn't have a problem running a line from the CIty
Hall if it can be done.
Mayor Windschltl questioned why a line from the CIty Hall cannot be
run over there sInce most of the use by the Fire Department will not
be when it Is needed at the city offices. He dIdn't feel there would
be a lot of costs associated with that alternative.
Counc II dIscussed the possibilities of providIng another phone line to
the Fire StatIon. Councilman Elling stated he would work with Mr.
Schrantz to check Into specIfic costs for extending another I ine from
the city offices versus adding a new line.
Chief Palmer explained the Fire Department By-Laws are in vIolation of
the state law because it limits the membership by corporate boundary
rather than by response time to the station, noting the City
Attorney's interpretation of the state law. The membership of the
department had the opportunity to change the By-Laws but did not do
so, which means they eVidently did not want It changed from the
corporate boundary. Also, theIr By-Laws allow for a change In them
only once a year, which was done in January.
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(AVFD, Continued>
Chief Palmer also explained they drove the Ilmi ts of the Ci ty to
determine maximum response tIme. It takes 11 mInutes from the
farthest point to respond to the Fire Station, and that Is what had
been recommended to the membership.
Counc i I discussed the problem notIng their reluctance to interfer with
the internal affairs of the Fire Department but recognizing the
By-Laws must be brought Into conformance wIth the state law. They also
felt the response time should be a recommendation from the Department,
not set by the Council. It was agreed the ChIef should check with the
CIty Attorney as to possible provIsions to bring their By-Laws Into
comp Ii ance, and also ask the members to once more consIder a change in
the By-Laws to reflect state law. If the members will not change the
By-Laws, the CouncIl stated then they wi II take action on It.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Lachinski, that we refer the issue
back to the Fire Department, asking them to bring the By-Laws into
compliance in regard to membership. Motion carried unanimously.
BATSON'S INDUSTRIAL PARK PRELIMINARY PLAT. CONTINUED
Staff thought the public hearing was closed on December 9, though the
applicant had requested a postponement once.
Counc II raised some concerns about the configuration of the lot lines
In the plat, that such gerlmandering of lot lines would not be allowed
in any other plat, that any increase In the amount of land for the
Junkyard operation as a result of this plat would not be allowed, that
the logical split of the three lots would be directly north and south,
that the easements are not shown on the plat as required, that there
Is enough property so variances on lot sizes should not be needed
because of right-of-way dedications, and that easement for a frontage
road along Bunker Lake Boulevard was requIred for the PankonIn
Addition Just east of this one and should be considered in this
instance as well to be consistent along Bunker Lake Boulevard.
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Orttel, that we refer the Batson
Industrial Park back to the P & Z for the following reasons: to
eliminate the need for varIances due to Increased easements, also to
consider easement for road purposes for future subdivision, to be sure
the acreage for the Junkyard operation Is not increased as a result of
this plat, and to show the dedIcatIon for easements. DISCUSS ION :
Counc II also asked that the Planning Commission consider requIring
dedication for a service road along Bunker Lake Boulevard as was
required in the PankonIn AddItIon. MotIon carrIed unanImously.
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FINAL APPROVAL OF COMPREHENSIVE SEWER STAGING PLAN
Council agreed to change the Steffenson property off Nightengale to
the 1990-1995 time frame as requested earlie~ this evening.
Councilman Orttel also questioned Including the City p~ope~ty. It
will only be developed as atheltic fields, so the residents should not
have to pay an assessment for services that will not be utilized. And
that capacity could be added elsewhere. After furthe~ discussion, i t
was agreed to leave it in, ~ecognizing It could be traded if other
areas need the capacity In the future.
Discussion was on the time frame for the Oak Bluff development. Three
houses are built on the 26 Jots. Council debated whether utilities
should be put in now before the ~emainlng lots are built on,
~ecognizing that may p~event the sale of some Jots In the Immediate
future until the utilities are in; or to leave It In the 1995-2000
time frame and have the decision of bringing in the utilities made at
that time, recognizing it would then be developed by incu~ring the
costs of p~ivate septic systems and weJls.
It was finally agreed the area assessment charge should be levied in
the 1987-1990 tIme frame.
WInslow HoJasek - asked that hIs property directly across from the
proposed school site be in the 1987 time frame to accommodate hIs
development. CouncIl agreed to Include approximately 40 acres In the
1987 tIme frame whIch would allow for development of his first phase.
Discussion was then on the request by Chuck Cook fo~ his property
between the Oak Bluff development and Hanson Boulevard. Council
agreed to Include that area In the 1987 tIme f~ame as well.
M911QN by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, that the property known as
Oak Bluff Estates be included In the 1987 Improvement area wIth the
Intent of holding a publIc hearing to assess area charges In 1987 for
sewer and water. DISCUSSION: Council acknowledged the other areas of
Holasek and Cook will requi~e publIc hearings as well. Motion carrIed
unanimously.
Bill HuPP. Andove~ Bouleva~d - requested the portIon of hIs p~operty
which includes the house be put in an earlier time frame. It Is in
the 1995-2000 perIod now. Council ag~eed to place it In the 1988-1990
time f~ame, whIch is the same as the prope~ty to the west. The
southern bounda~y would be the same as the p~operty to the west, with
the lowland behind it remainIng in the 1995-2000 period.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Lachlnskl, a ResolutIon app~ovlng
Andover's sanitary sewer stagIng plan to the year 2000 as presented
and amended he~e tonIght. (See ResolutIon R024-87) MotIon carried
unanimously.
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SET SPECIAL MEETING
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, that we meet February 19 to
complete our Agenda. Motion carried unanimously.
miQf:'PING CENTER - FINAL_!i..OND SALE/RESTAURANT/DAY CARE CENTER
Mayor Windschitl reported a letter of Intent has been signed for a
well-known restaurant in the Downtown Shopping Center. He asked for
direction in the interpretation of the lIquor ordinance regarding the
separation of the sale of liquor from a church. Attorney Burke stated
the ordinance reads 400 feet from any church sanctuary,
After some dIscussion, Counc i I dIrected the measurements should be
from the door of the church to the door of the restaurant.
Mayor Wlndschitl also reported there is an interest In establishing a
day care center in the new shopping center; however, the ordinance
does not allow them In shopping malls. He suggested the Planning
CommissIon review this Item.
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Elling, to refer the issue of
whether day care centers should be allowed in shoppIng center
distrIcts to the P & Z. Motion carried unanimously.
Mayor Windschitl stated the tentatIve date for the bond sale for the
shopping center has been set for February 24. Counc i I agreed to
discuss it on the 26th, as a specIal meeting has already been set for
that date.
MOTION by Lachlnski, Seconded by Orttel, that we set February 26 as
the tentative meeting for the bond sale for the shopping center.
MotIon carrIed unanimously.
COMPUTER
CouncIlman Lachlnskl stated he hil~ reGe~rched the announcement on the
new computer equIpment, statIng It is less expensive but does not have
the same capacity nor can it have as many terminals as what was
quoted. Counc i I then agreed to award the bid to AmeriData, the
apparent low bidder for a computer system for the city offIces,
excluding the equipment for water meter reading.
MOTION by Lachinskl, Seconded by EllIng, to enter into an agreement
wIth AmeriData with the exceptIon of the specIal equIpment for
automated meter reading at this time. Motion carried unanimously.
The meetIng was adjourned to Thursday, February 19, 1987. 11 :27 p.m.
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