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7:30 P.M. l. Call to Order
2. Resident Forum
3. Agenda Approval
4. Discussion Items
*a. Fiscal Disparity/C. Weaver
b. Brandon's Lakeview Estate Sketch Plan
c. Senior Citizen Assessment Deferral
d. Erroneous Deeds/Auditor's Subdivision 137
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5. Staff, Committee, Commission
a. Schedule Budget Discussion
b. Council Salaries
c. Warming House Attendants
d. Purchase Conroy Tax Forfeit Property
e. Fire Department/Bond Issue
* f. Storm Drain Feasibility Report/87-11/School,
Winslow Hills, Oak Bluff, etc.
6. Non-Discussion Items
a. Rename Ward Lake Drive (177th to 181st)
* b. 1.5 Million GO Improvement Bond Sale/
205,000 Tax Increment Bond Sale
*c. Oak Bluff 2nd Addition/Storm Drainage
7. Approval of Minutes
8. Approval of Claims
9. Adjournment
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'\: ., REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - DECEMBER 1, 1987
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The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was call ed
to order by Mayor Jerry Windschitl on December 1, 1987, 7:30 p.m., at
the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover,
Minnesota.
Councilmen present: Apel, El ling, Knight, Orttel
Councilmen absent: Orttel
Also present: City Attorney, William G. Hawkins; TKDA Engineer,
John Rodeberg; City Engineering Technician, Todd
Haas; City Administrator, James Schrantz: and
others
RESIDENT FORUM
Paul GenGler. 1440 Crosstown Boulevard - handed out a letter to the
Counc i I and pictures regarding his complaint on the projects in his
area. He said the contractor put black dirt on his pile of black dirt
without asking permission. And now it Is not known how much of that
dirt is the contrator's and how much is his. Mr. Gengler stated he
also had some logs piled and the contractor covered them up with black
dirt. Also, during the dewatering process, the pipe was run to the
back of his property, but the pipe only went half way to the creek and
the water was running Into his pasture. After tel ling them to stop,
the contractor extended the pipe but left It six feet short of the
creek, so the bank got washed out. He felt that should be repaired
now or it wi II get washed out in a good rain.
Mr. Gengler stated he has talked with the contractor and with TKDA
about these problems, but nothing has been done. He felt It would
only take a few hours to get them done and should be done now before
the ground freezes. He also noted other problems where a large oak
tree was cut down from one of his lots, a culvert was dozed onto his
land without permission, oi 1 drums still sit on his land from the
project, and the area Is not cleaned around the storm sewer. Final I y,
he wanted to know when the mailboxes can be put back In front of the
houses, as he was told it would be one or two weeks ago.
Mr. Gengler stated the storm sewer is outside of the easement. He has
talked to Mr. Rodeberg about It and has agreed that the storm sewer
can stay where It is at, but he felt it Is in the wrong place. He
also asked that the proper easement be obtained and the change be made
in his plat at the engineer's expense, not his.
Mr. Gengler also said the county is holding up his plat because of the
easement along the creek. The City approved the plat without the
designated easement: the county says they have to have 50 or 100 feet
of right away aJong the creek. Some agreement has to be reached so he
can fIle the plat.
Regu]ar City CouncIl Meeting
December 1. 1987 - Minutes
Page 2
(Resident Forum, Continued)
Mayor Windschitl though t the problem with the easement was resolved.
Mr. Gengler said if it was, he Is not yet aware of it. Counc i 1
discussed the easements along the creek, questioning why the county
is asking for that easement. It Is under the watershed authority, and
the county has never asked for easement along the creek before.
Counc i I asked to see the request in writing and a Justification for
It.
Mr. Rodeberg explained the plan for the storm sewer was to fol low the
existing oxbow, which Is along the property line for the most part and
into a low area. Because they were concerned about the drainage to
the Jow area, they put the outlet pipe In the low area to drain the
entire thing. They were supposed to contact Mr. Gengler before it was
instal led. He felt It was a better place for the pipe.
Mr. Rodeberg also explained Mr. Horbe I , the president of American
Contracting, has been very uncooperatIve In finishing UP the project,
noting a number of letters have been written to them listing these
problems and they have been cal led a number of times. Mr. Rodeberg
fe It the major problem may be Mr. Horbel let most of his staff go, and
they have few qualified personnel to complete the job. He suggested
sendIng AmerIcan Contracting a letter that if the work Is not done
within the two-week period of their contract. that the Ci ty wi II hire
someone eIse to do it and take the money off their contract.
Mr. Geng]er felt that two weeks couId be critical because of the
weather. If it freezes in that time, the work cannot get done untlI
spring, expressing frustration over trying to get something done for
the past three months. After further discussion, it was agreed Mr.
Rodeberg wi II ask American Contracting for permission to have Forest
Lake Contracting move that black dirt off Mr. Gengler's yard. Mr.
Rodeberg also explained they will hold back that portion of the final
payment for restoration untiJ all items have been completed.
Discussion was then on the progress of the Crosstown BouIevard
project, with CounclIman EJ ling noting the complaints he has received
abou t the sloping. Mr. Rodeberg explained the retaining waIl wi II be
bui I t to the top of the hill. No further sIoping or removal of trees
wi II be necessary. The purpose of the rataining wall was to save the
trees. The wal I will go up another four feet.
Counc il also asked Mr. Rodeberg to have the "Road Closed" signs and
barricades removed and the proper road signs Insta]led. Councilman
El ling was also concerned about the drainage at the Intersection of
Crosstown and Bunker Lake at Speedy Market. He feJt the standing
water shouJd be removed before i t freezes. Mayor Windschitl
understood a storm drainage pipe was going to be instal led there as a
part of the reconstruction being done at SpeedY Market.
No further Council action was taken.
Regular Ci ty Council Meeti ng
December 1 , 1987 - Minutes
Page 3
AGENDA APPROVAL
Counc i I agreed to delete Item 4a, Fiscal Disparity/C. Weaver, which
Is to be added to the December 15 meeting, and to add Item 6d,
Personne I .
MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Knight, to accept the Agenda. Mo ti on
carried unanimously.
BRANDON'S LAKEVIEW ESTATE SKETCH PLAN
Mr. Haas explained this is a different sketch plan than what was
presented previously. There are now only four lots fronting on 144th.
The City must decide whether water should be brought up on1y to 144th,
should be brought up Round Lake Boulevard to the end of Lot 4 or
extended further up to the edge of Outlot A to loop the system.
The developer asked why they would have to have the water run to the
edge of Outlot A when there would be no benefit for going up Round
Lake Boulevard at all. No one would be served with the line along
Round Lake Boulevard, and it Is not needed for this development. He
was trying to avoId the water charge and any further street
construction In this plat. Mr. Schrantz explained if the line is not
run to at least the edge of Lot 4, there would be no one to pay for I t
when it Is run in the future. It is also beneficia] to loop the
system.
The developec was more agreeable to going only to the edge of Lot 4,
so the cost of the remainder of the line could be shared by other
developers when that land Is developed in the future. Mayor
Windschltl said the engineers will have to tell the Counc I] what is
necessacy to make the system function. But i f the decision is to
extend the waterline to the property ] ine, the developer may find it
cost etfecti ve to develop Outlot B at this time. The engineers will
let the developer know what is required for the watermain extension.
Counc i I acknowledged Lot 1 , Block 1 does not meet the setback width of
85 feet at 35 feet from the property ] ine, noting it is only 82 feet
at 35 feet. Counc i I generally found that acceptable.
Mr. Schrantz noted the Andover Review Committee recommended combining
Outlots B, C, and D to prevent landlocked parcels. Counc i I agreed.
Staff was asked to check on the exact location of the storm sewer pipe
through Ou t I ot A
The developer understood bermlng along Round Lake Boulevard is a
matter of policy. Mayoc Windschitl stated the developers have been
asked to do it voluntarily. Mr. Haas stated It Is an attempt to
eliminate the traffic, noise, etc. , along Round Lake Boulevard, but he
wasn't sure if there were trees on that lot. The devloper didn't see
a problem wi th it. The plan Is to be sent to the P & z.
Regular City Council Meeting
December 1 , 1987 - Minutes
Page 4
SENIOR CITIZEN ASSESSMENT DEFERRAL
Counc i I generally agreed the poJicy adopted in 1976 should be updated
and indexed upward. The staff was directed to make a recommendation
for Counci J consideration.
ERRONEOUS DEEDS
Attorney Hawkins reviewed his November 12, 1987, letter to the City
Clerk regarding the erroneous deeds that had been filed in 1962 and
1969 for property general]y located east of 133rd to Coon Creek. The
deed in 1962 was for 60 feet of Jand to extend 133rd to Coon Creek.
He reviewed the error, noting there is a 20-foot gap that Mr. Knoll is
contesting he should get. But i t leaves the City with approximately a
40-foot easement which overlaps on the Wingness property.
Discussion was on how the error occurred and how to rectify it.
Counc i 1 questioned whether the easement is sti 1 ] needed, asking the
Staff to research whether the City's storm drainage pipe is within
that easement. Counc i ] also asked for a larger scale map of the
matter and a specific recommendation from the Attorney on how to
conveyor release the easement, agreeing to discuss it again at the
next meeting.
SCHEDULE BUDGET DISCUSSION
CounciJ agreed to discuss the proposed 1988 budget on Tuesday,
December 8, at 7:30 p.m. Mayor Windschitl asked for a motion to set
the special meeting.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by El ling, to so move. Motion carried
unanimously.
COUNCIL SALARIES
Counc i I reviewed the salaries for mayor and council in the surrounding
ci ties, but asked to be provided with the proposed salaries for 1988
for those ci ties.
MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Knight, to table this until those
figures are obtained. Motion carried unanimously.
WARMING HOUSE ATTENDANTS
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MOTION by Knight, Seconded by El ling, that we accept the request as
presented here. Motion carried unanimously. (Four warming house
attendants at a rate of $4 per hour)
Regular City Council Meeting
December 1 . 1987 - Minutes
Page 5
PURCHASE CONROY PROPERTY
Mr. Schrantz explained the cutoff day for responding to the EQB
regarding the wetlands area and rerouting of Crosstown Boulevard Is
this Wednesday. The cost to acquire the Conroy property from the
County Is $10,162: however, the Counc 11 has agreed to sell the eastern
80 feet to Mrs. Conroy for $2,647. There would be 230 feet east of the
proposed road on which the fire station is planned. That land Is
being sold for $10 for public use.
Counc I 1 discussed the proposal, some questioning whether there is
enough room east of the proposed road on which to locate the fire
station. It was also asked whether the fire station could be located
west of the proposed road alignment. Mr. Rodeberg stated It has been
proposed the western portion Hould be used to mitigate the ponding for
part of the right of way.
It was then suggested the City create a lot split on the property,
with the easterly 80 feet for Mrs. Conroy and the remaining area taken
for public purposes. Whatever is not needed mIght then be returned.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Ape], that the Counc i I direct the City
Staff to draw up a Lot Split for' the parcel known as the Conroy
property whereby the City would allow the sale of the easterly 80 feet
to Mrs. Conroy, and that the City take the property west of the 80-
foot retained piece as pUblic proPerty at no cost to the City other
than recordIng fees. Motion carried unanimously.
FIRE DEPARTMENT/BOND ISSUE
Counc II reviewed the fact sheet prepared by Attorney Hawkins regarding
the affect to residents to fund a $1,550,000 bond for two fire
stations and equipment. ML Hawkins explained It would be a flat 3.5
mill s each year for a 12-year bond issue. The bond would be set up to
pay less the first year and more In each of the following years. The
present bond will be paid off by then, so the 1.5 mil Is now levied for
that bond wi I I be dropped. The net increase would be 2.0 mills. ML
Hawkins also stated the calculations were done on Andover's 1988
taxable assessed valuation, levied in 1988 payable on 1989's tax bill.
Counc i 1 discussed the calculations wIth the Attorney and varIous
members of the FIre Department who were present. The risk involved
would be If the growth rate would reduce. The assumption under' the
proposal is the assessed value would grow each year, thereby
generating more income from each mIll. If the growth rate slowed
down, It Is possible the 3.5 mil Is would not generate enough money to
meet the bond payment.
Regular City Council Meeting
December 1 , 1987 - Minutes
Page 6
(Fire Department/Bond Issue, Continued)
Counc I 1 asked the Attorney to calculate the mill levy Increase using
the current mil Is, assuming nothing else happens in the City and the
bond payment would remain equal. The Counc II can then compare both
methods.
Discussion was also on the approximate annual tax Increase calculated
by Mr. Hawkins, with Mayor Windschltl questioning why the increase
appears to be so much less than what was used by the school districts
when calculating Increases to taxes for their proposed bond issues.
Discussion was then on making a final recommendation regarding the
siting of the two proposed fire stations. Counc i 1 felt the Engineers
had been given whatever authority they needed to make that
determination. If there is any doubt about the proposed sites, the
Counc II asked to be made aware of It as soon as possible.
It was agreed to discuss this Item again at the next meeting.
FIRE DEPARTMENT/EQUIPMENT PURCHASES
Fire Chief Bob Palmer asked if it would be possible to issue the
annual checks to the firefighters in mid-November. Counc II genera II y
did not have a problem with that, noting It can be done as soon as all
the information Is given to the treasurer.
Chief Palmer presented a check to Mayor Wlndschltl for $3,000 from the
Relief Association to be used for the equipment van.
Assistant Fire Chief Glen Smith reviewed the requests to purchase
several equipment items and to carry the balance of their large
equipment budget Into the 1988 budget to provide time to write new
specifications for turnout coats and other equipment.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Elling, that we authorize the Fire
Department to spend $880 on couplings from Conway and $2,600 for two
hand-held radios from Motorola, and $900 for a used ONAN generator
from Robert Palmer, and $2,304 for six pagers from Motorola. Motion
carried unanimously.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by El ling, that we al low the Fire
Department to transfer $14,838 from the 1987 to 1988 budget. Motion
carried unanimously.
Counc II recessed at 9:37; reconvened at 9:43.
Regular City Council Meeting
December 1 , 1987 - Minutes
Page 7
STORM DRAINAGE FEASIBILITY REPORT/87-11
Mr. Rodeberg reviewed the supplemental feasibility report for the
Elementary School Storm Sewer Outlet, Project 87-11B, which also
included the storm drainage plan for the area immediately east of
Hanson Boulevard. He reviewed a map outlIning the proposed pondlng
areas and storm sewer lines. He then reviewed the estimated costs of
the projects, notIng a cost of $498,540 or 4.9 cents per square foot
for the benefitted area of LIne I and $381,430 or 2.3 cents per square
foot for the benefItted area of Line 2. The reason the area of Line 1
Is more cost I y is because of the larger amount of piping necessary.
The pondIng in the Line 2 area Is considerably less costly. CombIning
the two areas, the cost would be approximately 3.2 cents per square
foot.
Mayor WlndschItl questIoned the legality of combining the two areas.
DIscussIon was then on the concern of the hIgh cost for the LIne 1
area and possIble ways to reduce it. At this tIme, the only need Is
for the school property and Oak Bluff. The assessment from these two
areas would not be sufficient to cover the cost of installIng the
pipe. It was pointed out, though, that the cost per square foot would
change somewhat once the final calculations were done because
commercial areas generally pay more.
Mr. Rodeberg stated the school has a large ponding area, suggesting
the possibility of temporarily outletting across Hanson Boulevard to
the Winslow HIlls plat untIl LIne 1 is constructed. But the problem
would remain for the Oak Bluff area.
It was then suggested a temporary open ditch be constructed along the
western edge of Hanson Boulevard rather than Instal lIng the storm
sewer lIne at thIs time. Mr. Rodeberg felt It would be possIble,
though more easement would probably be needed. That may be the
temporary solutIon for the Oak Bluff area drainage. Counc i I asked
that the feasIbIlity and costs be explored for the temporary option of
an open drainage ditch along Hanson Boulevard.
DiscussIon was on the concern over the ability of County Ditch 20 to
hand] e the water from the proposed Line 2 area. Counc II asked the
engineers to find out the capacity of the dl tch from the Coon Creek
Watershed. Mr. Rodeberg stated It is a county ditch which should be
Improved before the Line 2 area is fully developed and possibly
realIgned along property lInes.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Apel, authorizIng them to do whatever
staff feels is necessary to see what ditching costs would be from the
Oak Bluff 2nd down to the proposed ponding area on Hanson and Andover
road and see i f that would dupJ icate the proposed Jocation of the pipe
that is planned. Motion carried unanimously.
Regular City Council Meeting
December 1 , 1987 - Minutes
Page 8
OAK BLUFF 2ND ADDITION/STORM DRAINAGE
Chuck Cook, developer of Oak Bluff 2nd Addition, presented sca]ed
drawings of the proposed pond within Oak Bluff 2nd Addition compared
to the sJopes in the Creekridge plat. Mr. Cook exp]ained the slopes
in Creekridge are 3 to 1, the proposed s10pes for Oak B]uff 2nd were
10 to 1, but he is now proposing 20 to 1 s]opes. It is 160 feet back
to the water on each lot, and the water will be in the pond before any
lots are sold. The pond would have 6 feet of water, which is the
water tab1e at this time. He wants the pond to be deep enough so the
weeds don't overtake it. In the event of a 100-year flood, the water
1ine would be 60 to 80 feet from the house. Plus there is an overflow
down the street and an outlet to the pipe on Hanson BouJevard
Mr. Rodeber9 stated the pipe outlets at 886 feet and the 100-year
flood e]evation is as high as 890. Even in a drought if the water
drops below the outlet, a] 1 the water from the storm sewers will come
into the pond first.
The general consensus of the Counc i1 was the ponding and slopes
presented this evening are acceptable. Discussion was then on the
maintenance of that pond, wi th the Counc i I agreeing the City should
not be responsible for that maintenance. A suggestion was to create a
homeowners association to be responsible for the pond. Another method
would be to run the property 1ines to the middle of the pond. The
Attorney and Engineers were directed to make a recommendation on the
most appropriate method of having that pond maintained.
RENAME WARD LAKE DRIVE - 177TH TO 181ST
MOTION by Ortte1, Seconded by Knight, that we schedule a public
hearing for the 15th of December at the Regular Council Meeting to
discuss the matter regarding renaming Ward Lake Drive from 177th
Avenue to 181st Avenue to Hanson Boulevard, and direct Staff to
prepare a letter to go to the residents involved explaining what wilJ
be going on at that meeting. Motion carried unanimously.
$1.5 MILLION GO IMPROVEMENT BOND SALE
Attorney Hawkins opened three bids for the sale of $1.5 Million Go
Improvement Bonds. Bids received were from:
1st Nationa1 Bank, St. Paul, et a1; bid price of $1,533,725, total
interest cost of $295,275 for a net interest rate of 6.350 percent
Piper Jaffrey, et aI, bid price of $1,533,725, total interest cost
of $299,925 for a net interest rate of 6.45 percent
Mi I ler Securities, bid price of $1,531,400, tota1 interest cost of
$297,600 for a net Interest rate of 6.40 percent
Regular CIty Council Meet! ng
December 1 , 1987 - MInutes
Page 9
($1.5 MIllion GO Improvement Bond Sale, ContInued)
Attorney Hawkins recommended the sale to the apparent low bidder of
1st NatIonal Bank of St. Paul.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by El ling, a Resolution awardIng the sale
of $1,550,000 GO Temporary Improvement Bonds for 1987, fixing theIr
form and specifIcatIons: dIrecting theIr execution and delivery, and
provIding for theIr payment; and note that the sale Is to 1st NatIonal
Bank of St. Paul and others at a bid price of $1,533,725, total
Interest cost of $295,275 and net effectIve rate of 6.350 percent.
(See Resolution R235-87) MotIon carried on a 4-Yes, I-Present
(Windschltl) vote.
$205.000 TAX INCREMENT BOND SALE
Attorney Hawkins reported he solIcIted a bid from Miller and Schroeder
for a three-year temporary taxable bond of $205,000. MIller and
Schroeder proposed a coupon rate of 9 percent, discounted for 1.45
percent of the bond, for a net result of 9.467 percent. He said it is
comparable to sImilar bond sales.
Counc i 1 asked Mr. Hawkins to determine If 1st National of Anoka or St.
Anthony Bank would be interested the bond. ThIs wi 11 be on the next
Counc i 1 agenda for further consideration.
SCANNERS FOR PUBLIC WORKS AND ADMINISTRATOR
Mayor Wlndschitl asked for CouncIl consideration of providing a
scanner for Mr. Stone In PublIc Works so he Is aware when those
employees who are also firefIghters are involved wIth Fire Department
responsibIlItIes. He also felt 1 t Is important for Mr. Schrantz to
have a scanner at his house so he is aware of any emergency situatIon
that may occur in the CIty after offIce hours.
After some discussIon, Counc 1 1 generalJy felt a scanner would not be
that useful to Mr. Schrantz at thIs tIme. Because a dIsaster plan
is in the process of beIng prepared, there wi II be a procedure for
notIfyIng the admInIstrator In the event of an emergency. Counc i I dId
feel It would be benefIcial to have a scanner In the Public Works
Department to be aware of fIre calls.
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Elling, that we approve Claims Check
Numbers 13680 through 13774 in the amount of $173,391.39. Motion
carrIed unanimously.
Regular City Council Meeti ng
December 1 , 1987 - Minutes
Page 10
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION by Elling, Seconded by KnIght, that we approve the Regular
Counc II Minutes of November 17 as submitted. Motion carried on a
4-Yes, I-Present <Wlndschltl) vote.
PERsormEL
Counci I reviewed the memorandum from Mr. Schrantz regarding the
disciplinary problems of Dale Mashuga and recommended disciplinary
action. After dIscussing the violation, Its effect on the City and
Staff . and various discIplInary actIons, it was basica]!y agreed to
support the AdmInIstrator's recommendation.
MOTION by Apel, Seconded by Elling, that based upon the information
received from the City Manager referencing the disciplinary problem of
Dale Mashuga, that Dale be given a one-week suspension without pay
effectl ve five days after receipt of this notIfication and be demoted
from Public Works II to Public Works III effective the 1st of January,
1988. DISCUSSION: It was noted the Personnel Policy allows Mr.
Mashuga five days after receipt of written notice of this disciplinary
action to appeal the ruling, and the Counc II must hold a public
hearing on the matter within 10 days of the appea]. Moti on carr I ed
unanimously.
MOTION by Apel, Seconded by Orttel, to adjourn. Motl on carr I ed
unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 11:27 p.m.
Respectful]y submitted,
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Marc la A. Peach
Recording Secretary