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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC April 15, 1986 CITY of ANDOVER REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING-APRIL 15, 1986 AGENDA 7:30 P.M. l. Call to Order 2. Agenda Approval 3. Resident Forum 4. Discussion Items â. G.M. Investment Sketch Plan b. Order Feasibility Report/Andover Blvd.-Hanson to Crosstovm c. William Batson/Waive Subdivision Requirements d. University Ave/177th Ave/Sikora e. Coon Creek Watershed Ponding Fees 5. Non-Discussion Items a. Creekridge Estates/86-1 l. Approve Final Plat 2 . Avlard Bid 3 . Approve Development Contract b. Smith's Green Acres/86-2 l. Approve Final plat 2. A1ilard Bid 3. Approve Development Contract c. Appoint Council Reps/Anoka~Andover Storm Drainage d. Receive Feasibility Report/Order Public Hearing/ Trunk WM & SS/Bunker & Hanson e. Project Change Orders f. Approve Plans & Specs/Order Ad for Bids/86-4/ Hidden Creek g. Declare Adequacy of Petition, Waive Public Hearing/ Hidden Creek 2nd Addition/86-6 RECESS 6 . Commission, Committee, Staff Items a. Planning & Zoning l. Ordinance 8EE/Transition Area b. Park Maintenance/Stone/Kinkade c. Schedule Park Board Interviews d. Staff l. City Hall Remodeling Plan 2. Dental Insurance 3. Insurance Options 4 . Hire Building Inspector (Temporary) 7 . Approval of Claims 8 . Approval of Minutes 9 . Adjournment CITY of ANDOVER REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - APRIL 15, 1986 MINUTES The Regular Bi-Month1y Meeting of the Andover City Counci 1 was called to order by Mayor Jerry Windschitl on April 15, 1986, 7:30 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Councilmen present: Elling, Knight, Lachinski, Orttel Councilmen absent: None Also present: City Attorney, William G. Hawkins; City Administrator/ Engineer, James Schrantz; City Clerk/Treasurer, Larry Johnson, and others RESIDENT FORUM Mayor Windschitl reported there is a burglary ring operating in the areas of Hawk Ridge and Ward Lake Drive. Deputies Dave King and Steve Johnson and Captain Hogestratt are present if there are any questions from the audience. Captain Hoogestraat - explained that MCIU was started in 1974 by the municipalities ln the county. Orlgina1ly there were 14 investigators and one captain. Now there are 14 investigators; one captain and one lieutenant. The crime rate has increased much more than the number of personnel in MCIU. He stated the problem in Andover is young people. The burglaries are mostly committed at dusk by juveniles. Since the first of the year, one juvenile was arrested for burglary and a drug offense; and eight other offenses were cleared by arrest. Cpt. Hoogestraat gave other statistics. Since the first of the year, three cases are being worked on where there are leads; five cases where there is no physical evidence, no suspects, no leads. In the cases where they have nothing to go on, they don't assign the case to an investigator because they don't have enough manpower. Councilman Knight asked if the juveniles live in the areas where the crimes are being committed. Cpt. Hoogestraat said they live in Andover, Oak Grove, and Ham Lake. Melanie DeLuca, Crooked Lake Communit School Distrctor - stated they had a Key ommunlcator meetlng ln Haw 1 ge an on y two aml es attended. If people are interested, they would be willing to hold additional meetings. Tom May, 14034 Crosstown Boulevard NW - presented a petition asking for the costs to extend water to 139th and 140th. He contacted 26 people in the area, which is 100 percent. 25 signed the petition, with 24 saying yes. Mayor Windschitl said this will be on the next agenda as an informational item. John Galzki, 14465 Guarani Street NW - stated the water has come up about;S inches. Last November the Clty promlsed to help them out. They don't qualify for'flood insurance because it is ground water. Mayor Windschit1 explained the cost of the storm sewer system is $589,000, and there isn't enough money to get the project going without getting some agreement with the City of Anoka. They would approve the project without the pipe. Anoka is asking for two of our Councilmen to meet with two of their Counci1members to help solve this problem. I Mr. Schrantz stated the City pumped the water last year. Round Lake is very high, and it is draining out into a pipe into the low land. While it was pumped, it rai ned,~ne inch. Mr. Galzki - asked why the water can't be pumped down Seventh Avenue. Mr. Schrantz said that would be a long way to pump the water. - --- Regular City Council Meeting April 15, 1986 - Minutes Page 2 (Resident Forum, Continued) ? - said they didn't start having water problems until all the building of the new homes started in the area, including Northglen 2, 4, and 5. Mr. Schrantz said that was not the cause of the problem. There has been above average rainfalls since 1980. John Davidson, TKDA, explained Lund's Round Lake Estates and Dehn's Addition are the lowest points in the watershed. Last fall there was a distinction between ground water and above ground water. In the last four years we have had the highest rainfall since they started keeping records. We have also had winters with no frost. With the rain last fall and no frost in the winter, the ground water table is coming up. River levels are higher than they have been since 1974. This is a wet cycle. John Brickman - stated four years ago, a builder was pumping water into Round Lake and hlS septlc system flooded. The builder paid the bill to have it fixed. He pumped three or four nights in a row. Councilman Lachinski asked if we have a permanent problem or a temporary problem that can be solved by pumping. Mrs. Brickman - asked what the City suggests to get this problem taken care of. Mr. Schrantz said a storm sewer project would cost a half million dollars. Mayor Windschitl said the people in Anoka are having the same problem. Richard Klabachek, Enchanted Drive - said that north of Round Lake the water drains toward the Rum Rlver. He asked lf that wouldn't be the way to drain Round Lake. Mr. Schrantz said the lake is in a clay basin, and it is not known where the water goes into the lake and where it comes out. He suggested perhaps the lake could be drained. Mayor Windschitl said that because of the DNR, draining the lake is next to impossible. A permanent pipe would be the solution to the problem, but we just don't have enough money to make it work. Mr. Schrantz showed the audience a map, indicating the proposal to build the pipe. Anoka wants one cent per square foot plus the project cost of $300,000. In looking at the areas that could be assessed, the assessments would be very high. It's very difficult to have other people pay to solve the problem we have. Councilman Lachinski asked what it would cost to drain the water to the Rum River. Mr. D~vidson said that it was more costly than the other alternative. Mr. Schrantz looked at going into the Meadowood storm sewer system, but that would involve going across the highway. Other suggestions were go to into the pond below Lyle Bradley's house or to go to the west from Andover West to the river. One other suggestion was to ditch from Dehn's Addition to Meadowood. Walter Dick - asked when is the county going to start their project, meaning the rlver crossing. Mayor Windschitl said they have the authority to bid it now. He asked that a special meeting be scheduled to consider all of the water problems in the City and how to solve them. Mr. Schrantz was directed to prepare costs for the following suggestions: 1) draining to the Meadowood storm sewer system; 2) pumping the water over the sarrdridge on Bunker; 3) ditch going north to Bradley's; and 4) a private ditch. MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Elling, to set a special meeting for April 29 at 7:30 p.m. to discuss the water problems in the City. Motion carried unanimously. Richard Klabachek - suggested using two culverts to the drainage ditch to the river would solve the problem in his area. He noted that there is one house in his area that is completely surrounded by water except for the driveway. MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Orttel, to authorize TKDA to assist Jim Schrantz in preparing the costs and ways to solve the water problems. Motion carried uannimously. 0-' _ ---- Regular City Council Meeting April 15, 1986 - Minutes Page 3 (Resident Forum, Continued) Ron Giveski, 15615 Prairie Road - has had a water problem for the last three years. They put ln curb on Pralrle Road and now the water from both sides of the road drains into his property. His garage is starting to sink on one side and the floor is cracking. Mr. Schrantz said that he had the property surveyed the other day. He said that corner has always had a water problem. We can get a dozer in there in about two weeks to solve the problem. MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Knight, to authorize Jim Schrantz to get the problem solved at 15615 Prairie Road. Motion carried unanimously. Elmer Herr, 139th Avenue NW, Red Oaks, Lot 3 - stated the drain pipe still has not been finished for the storm sewer, and he is getting all the debris in his yard. They were out there once to try to dig it deeper, but it just plugs up again. They didn't finish putting the pipe across his property. Mr. Schrantz explained se~era1 years ago they cleaned out the end and it was satisfactory at that time. The reason it has not been extended is because it is at the end of the good soils. Council asked for a cost estimate for a permanent solution to the problem. MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, that Jim (Schrantz) be directed to get costs for a solution to the problem with piping going the rest of the way on the property and have it on the special meeting on the 29th. DISCUSSION: It was felt the costs should come out of that project fund. Motion carried unanimously. Mrs. Norman - has a drainage problem since the road was paved, as the water now drains through their front yard. She sent a letter to the Council regarding the problem. Frank Stone, Public Works Sueprvisor, stated he will berm down the side of the road to keep the water on the road and to carry it down to the drain. He felt that should resolve the problem. AGENDA APPROVAL The following changes were agreed to: Delete Item 4c, William Batson/Waive Subdivision Requirements; Add Items 5þ, 85-8B Change Order, 5i, Site Q Landfill; and 6d (5), Accept Easements. MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Knight, to approve the Agenda as modified. Motion carrled unanimously. G. M. INVESTMENT SKETCH PLAN Tom O'Malley, Caine and Associates, and Gilbert Menkveld, owner of the property, were present. Discussion noted the property needs to be rezoned to R-l for the the proposed residential development, as it is currently zoned M-1. Mr. Schrantz also felt an east-west street should be provided to eventually meet with the extension of Quinn Street from the Red Oaks Addition, suggesting it be along the north lot line of Lot 40. Discussion was on the development of the strip along Bunker Lake Boulevard. Mr. Menkveld stated it is not wide enough because of the wetlands. Mr. Caine also stated the county wants 75 feet right of way and the city requires a 50-foot setback. Plus the right of way is offset in that area. It was agreed the engineers would research that further. Council gave conceptual approval of the sketch plan with the noted items. ~ .. - Regular City Council Meeting April 15, 1986 - Minutes Page 4 ORDER FEASIBILITY REPORT/ANDOVER BOULEVARD FROM HANSON TO CROSSTOWN Council noted the petition received from residents living along either side of Andover Boulevard from Crosstown Boulevard to Hanson Boulevard requesting only costs for city water and sewer, the time frame such utilities can be expected, and the costs for installing new private wells and septic systems. Merlyn Prochniak - stated the item is more for informational purposes at this time. Several resldents are considering putting in new wells; and before making such a major investment, they would like to know the costs and time frame of municipal utilities, not wanting to have to duplicate costs. He did not know how the neighbors felt about actually installing utilities at this time. He is also in the position of having to put in a deep well, and he doesn't want to have to pay that expense and then pay again for city utilities. He has some coloration in his water, but the MPCA and Anoka County are not concerned about it at this time. Mayor Windschitl briefly reviewed the meeting with the engineers of the SW28 group last week. The engineers feel the creek is flushing the landfill at this time and that contamination is going underneath the creek and extending north for 50 feet. There is no question that the shallow aquifer is contaminated; but the engineers are saying that the clay liner is protecting the deeper aquifers. The state well advisory which required specific well designs is no longer in effect. Council agreed to have this item on the May 7 agenda as an informational item, directing the engineers to prepare a report on estimated costs and time frame of availability of utilities. MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Knight, that we authorize Jim (Schrantz) and TKDA to come up with ball park numbers for this item. Motion carried unanimously. UNIVERSITY AVENUE/177TH AVENUE/SIKORA Bill Sikorah 17800 University Avenue NW - stated they have lived there for over 35 years and t e road has been there for approximately 100 years. He stated that portion of University Avenue from 177th is now impassible. In the past 10 to 15 years, development has taken place mainly in Ham Lake. There are about 12 houses there, with more being planned; and that road cannot handle the traffic. He stated Ham Lake tried to do something last year, but that just made the matter worse. He questioned who does the maintenance on that road. Mayor Windschitl stated it appears the City of Ham Lake is not wanting to do a project until they have the right of way through there. Mr. Sikora - stated he and his mother dedicated the right of way on their side of the road, and his mother also dedicated on the east side of the road when the property was sold. That should have been recorded when the land was platted. Ann Sikora - stated 35 years ago the Township of Grow maintained the road; then Ham Lake took over the maintenance. Now nobody can agree on it. She said she has been paying taxes for 36 years but has a road she cannot get in or out on. Mr. Schrantz stated once the right of way is determined and dedicated, the City of Ham Lake is willing to enter into a joint powers agreement to improve that road. Andover's standards call for a blacktopped road. Mrs. Sikora - stated all they are asking for is a base so it is passible and easily malntalned. They are not asking for blacktop. Mr. Sikora - asked that some agreement be determined between the two cities as to maintenance of that road. Also, he requested thatless maintenance be done by Ham Lake, as that has only made the matter worse. Regular City Council Meeting April 15, 1986 - Minutes Page 5 (University Avenue/177th Avenue/Sikora, Continued) Discussion continued with the Sikoras and several other residents from Ham Lake who were in the audience. All generally agreed that;i f the ri ght of way has not been provided, they would be willing to dedicate whatever is needed. Council agreed the right-of-way issue should be researched and to contact Ham Lake regarding maintenance and an improvement proposal. This item is to be placed on the May 6 agenda. CREEKRIDGE ESTATES/86-1/APPROVE FINAL PLAT Ken Gust developer - stated they have about 10 days of work left for the rough cut on the piat. Mr. Schrantz cautioned the rough cut should be completed or an escrow deposited prior to the awarding of the bid to protect the City, because the contract is predicated on the grade being done. Council discussed whether to award the bid contingent upon an escrow being made or the rough cut being completed, or to delay awarding the bid until the rough cut is completed. John Davidson, TKDA, stated the City has the right to withhold awarding the bid for 60 days if it so chooses. Council then agreed to table the awarding of the bid and development contract for both Creekridge Estates (86-1) and Smith's Green Acres (86-2) until the April 29 special meeting to allow for the completion of the rough cut in both plats. MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Ortte1, a Resolution a~ presented approving the final plat of Creekridge Estates as being developed by Carson Dropps, Associates in Section 29, subject to the Attorney's approval. (See Resolution R031-86) Motion carried unanimously. MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Knight, thatiwe table the resolution accepting bids and awarding contract for 86-1 and 2 until April 29. Motion carried unanimously. SMITH'S GREEN ACRES/86-2/APPROVE FINAL PLAT Mr. Schrantz expressed concern over the work done on the plat to date, as it is quite a mess out there now. Mr. Gust and an associate explained only $4,000 worth of work remains to be done. The contractor left the site because of the rain but will be back as soon as it dries up. There is about three more days' worth of work to be done. If it is drying weather this week, the contractor should be back on site on t~onday . The plat is being graded for all walk-out houses that have FHA approval. They will be grading the front yards and driveways, and everything will be correct and set to grade when completed. They stated all the peat has been removed from the site. They also stated Channel Construction wants to do this job first. Attorney Hawkins advised he has not seen the abstract for this plat. MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Orttel, a Resolution approving the final plat of Sm,th's Green Acres as being developed by Forest Oaks Condos in Section 28 contingent upon the developer entering into a development contract with required security, a favorable title opinion, and escrow of $4,000 for the remaining work. Motion carried unanimously. It was determined that the contract bids for Smith's Green Acres and Creekridge Estates are to be awarded under one contract, so there would be no need for an escrow account to complete the grading. That contract will be acted upon at the special meeting on April 29. MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Knight, to reconsider the prior motion. Motion carried unanimously. Regular City Council Meeting April 15, 1986 - Minutes Page 6 (Smith's Green Acres/86-2/Approve Final Plat, Continued) MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Knight, a Resolution approving the final plat of Smlth's Green Acres as being developed by Forest Oaks Condos in Section 28, contingent upon the developer entering into a development contract with required security and a favorable title opinion. (See Resolution R032-86) Motion carried unanimously. RECEIVE FEASIBILITY REPORT/ORDER PUBLIC HEARING/TRUNK WATERMAIN & SANITARY SEWER/ BUNKER & HANSON MOTION by Ortte1, Seconded by Lachinski, a Resolution receiving Feasibility Report and calling public hearing on improvements of sanitary sewer and watermain, Project No. 86-3 in the Bunker Lake Boulevard areas from Thrush Street to Zilla Street and Section 34, except for Red Oaks Manor Additions, the SW~ of the NW~ and NW~ of SW~; Secton 35 north of Bunker Lake Boulevard; and the NW~ of the SW~, and set the date for the 15th day of May, 1986, 7:30 p.m. (See Resolution R033-86) Motion carried unanimously. PROJECT CHANGE ORDERS/85-8B John Davidson, TKDA, reviewed a written report on the change order previously approved by the Council for Project 85-8B. The two main reasons for the approximately $50,000 increase was the deeper depth of the sewer on the north side of Bunker Lake Boulevard than what was originally bid, and the extension of 220 feet of sewer line beyond the originally bid project as a result of a petition. Rerouting the sewer line to the north side of Bunker Lake Boulevard to the Menkveld property is also easier because of the plat now coming in for that area, and it also dimishes the amount of legal fees, etc., that would have been required to condemn the property on the south side of the road. DECLARE ADEQUACY OF PETITION/WAIVE PUBLIC HEARING/HIDDEN CREEK 2ND ADDITION/86-6 John Peterson of Good Value Homes stated they have just received the specs for the chain link fence that is to be installed in the Northglen II park. They expect it to be up and in place within a week. He also stated regarding the Hidden Creek plat, they have written the county urging them to make a final decision on the realignment of Crooked Lake Boulevard through their plat. They èxpect to complete the rest of the plat next year. MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Elling, a Resolution accepting feasibility study, walving public hearing, ordering improvement and directing preparation of plans and specifications for the improvement of sanitary sewer, watermain, storm drain and streets with concrete curb and gutter for Hidden Creek 2nd Addition, IP86-6, as prepared. (See Resolution R034-86) Motion carried unanimously. MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Elling, a Resolution declaring adequacy of petition and ordering preparation of feasibility report for the improvements of watermain, sanitary sewer, storm drain and bituminous streets with concrete curb and gutter, Project No. 86-6, in the Hidden Creek 2nd Addition area. (See Resolution R035-86) Motion carried unanimously. APPROVE PLANS & SPECS/ORDER AD FOR BIDS/86-4/HIDDEN CREEK MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Knight, a Resolution approving Final Plans and speclfications and ordering advertisement for bids for Project No. 86-4, Hidden Creek for watermain, sanitary sewer, storm drain and streets with concrete curb and gutter. (See Resolution R036-86) Motion carried unanimously. Regular City Council Meeting April 15, 1986 - Minutes Page 7 (Approve Plans & Specs/Order Ad for Bids/86-4/Hidden Creek, Continued) Park Commission Chairman Stuart Kinkade asked if the one acre dedicated for the fire department is considered part of the park dedication, in which case they lose an acre of park dedication. Mr. Peterson - stated'Uwas his understanding they would get credit in their park dedlcatlon for the property donated for the fire department, that the park fee would be reduced by an amount equal to the land value of the fire station site. Council stated that is correct, that the ordinances require 10 percent dedication for park or public use, the later intended to be used in instances such as this. Council recessed at 9:57; reconvened at 10:10 p.m. ORDINANCE 8EE/TRANSITION AREA Planning Commission Chairman Don Jacobson reviewed the public hearing held by the Planning Commission on the ordinance amendment to create a transition area in the City to provide for adequate planning of future public utilities. The majority of the residents at the public hearing opposed the amendment arguing it would encourage the utilities to be extended sooner because of the smaller lots. They also feared that the green areas created, which would be undevelopable until utilities are available, would be left for tax forfeiture. The Planning Commission was also split in their vote, failing to pass the amendment. Dick Schneider, 1343 Andover Boulevard - stated he sold his land to Mr. Cooke and strongly fells lt should be left at 2~ acres the way the ordinance was when he sold it. His intent when selling the property was that it be developed into 2\-acre lots, stating he wouldn't have sold it if it has been rezoned as this amendment is pro- posing. He suggested the Council should be concerned with the people living in the area now, not those who will be here 10 or 20 years from now, which this amendment basically addresses. Mr. Schneider also stated Mr. Holasek, who owns a great deal of the land involved and who was unable to be here this evening, asked that his opposition to be ordinance be expressed. Mr. Schneider stated he is opposed to it, as was the Planning Commission. He hoped the Council listens to them. Chuck Cooke, åurchaser of the Dick Schneider proåerty - read a statement to the Council regar ing his positlon. When he acquire the property, he had agreed to 2~- acre lots per the ordinance; but after some research and experiencing some of the problems associated with the extension of utilities through a developed area, he has changed his mind. He felt with the growth of the city, there is potential need for the extension of sanitary sewer and water through this area which cannot be ignored. And by allowing 2\-acre lot developments, the cost to those residents for those utilities would be astronomical. Therefore, he felt the City should exercise the foresight and planning of these projects to effectively deal with those problems; and he supports this amendment as a way of doing that. Tom Adler, 1480 Andover Boulevard - suggested the Council support the people who are living here now, especially those who already have large parcels of land -- 15 to 20 acres, who do not want to or cannot develop their property. Running sanitary sewer or water past them would be more astronomical. Mayor Windschitl explained the Council is trying to prevent. what happened in Coon Rapids where the 2~-acre lots had assessments of over $50,000 when the utilities came by. He also felt the landfill issue needs to be considered, which may force the extension of municipal water. The City needs to consider the overall area, a larger geographic area to support the utilities. Regular City Council Meeting April 15, 1986 - Minutes Page 8 (Ordinance 8EE, Transition Area, Continued) Ken Hei1, 1425 Andover Boulevard - stated everyone in the Hartfiel's Estates has deep wells, and lt lS unllkely the deep wells will become highy contaminated. They also pump their septic systems on a regular basis, as he does; and he felt it is unlikely that development will require those city services. He stated if the utilities are extended, it would force them to develop to compensate for the costs of the sewer and water. He argued if the density above Hartfield's remains at 2~ acres, no demand is ever created for those utilities. Why not leave the density as it presently is? There was a lengthy discussion between residents and Council. Several Counci1members pointed out the pressure to develop in Andover which ultimately forces the extension of sewer and water, predicted that within 10 years that area will see petitions for utilities and the transition zone would lessen the financial burden for the residents, noted this is an attempt to prevent what happened in Coon Rapids where astronomical assessments were forced on property owners as a result of the extension of sewer and water petitioned for by a developer, and believed that the one-acre lots would not force the extension of utilities sooner than a 2~-acre development would because the same square footage is required for a buildable site. Councilmen Ortte1 and Lachinski also felt the green areas would not become tax forfeit because it would ultimately become desirable buildable property. And if it did so, Councilman Ortte1 suggested the City may want it as parkland. Residents argued the amendment protects the people coming into the city, but does not protect the people already living here. If it were kept 2~-acre lots, there would never be a need to extend the utilities out. Forcing the utilities past already large lots or tracts of land would create financial disaster for some existing residents. Gene Passon - stated he was told by the City Engineer that there is a "shelf" that runs from Hinkley, Minnesota, down to Hartfiel's Estates, and that there should be no contaminated ~. water in the deeper layers because of that layer. Mayor Windschitl reported what the engineers reported last week regarding the contamination of the upper aquifer in the landfill and its extension north of the creek about 50 feet. Also, it is possible that these utilities will be within a half mile of Hartfiel's Estates, noting the public hearing for utilities up to Coon Creek along Hanson Boulevard and tonight's request for information from residents along Andover Boulevard just west of Hanson Boulevard. Mr. Adler - stated keeping the area at 2~-acre lots insures the protection of that area because utilities will never be needed. When developing into one-acre lots as is being proposed, there is no reason for the developer to keep the green areas, so it will be left for tax forfeit. Attorney Hawkins advised the developer could sell the green acres, but a restrictive convenant would be attached to the property that it would not be allowed to develop until utilities are available. Mr. Schneider - asked how much land is affected by this amendment. Council noted the accompanying map outlining the transition area. Mr. Schneider - stated he sold the property with the intent of developing to existing ordlnance requirements of 2~ acres; and if that changes, he may have to see his attorney about that sale. He stated 2~-acre lots would never need city sewer and water; and rather than letting the green area sit idle, what would stop the developer from turning around and petitioning for utilities to develop it, which also forces the extension of sewer and water sooner? He didn't feel the landfill issue applied to his property. But he felt the Council should have made more demands on the County Regular City Council Meeting April 15, 1986 - Minutes Page 9 (Ordinance 8EE, Transition Area, Continued) and PCA to have the site properly capped. Council discussed the time and effort they have put into the landfill issue, noting the frustrations and lack of authority the City has had in this entire issue. Mr. Schneider - apologized for bringing that point up, but again stated his opposition to the amendment and asked the Council to consider the people presently living in the city. The discussion continued with the Council explaining how the proposal came about, and the proposed extension of utilities up to Coon Creek along Hanson Boulevard this year, and why it is being considered. The residents again argued against it. Councilman Knight stated one concern he has is that the proposal leaves half of the land site idle, asking what is the point of keeping it undeveloped. Councilman Elling felt this proposal reduces the development costs to the developer because less roads are needed, etc. What can happen is the best part of the land is developed into one-acre lots, and the rest could be left for tax forfeit. Mayor Windschit1 didn't feel they would see the forfeiture issue, as that land does have future value as development property. Council discussed the Santa's Tree Farm property, asking why it wasn't included in the transition zone. After further discussion, it was determined that the southern half of Santa's Tree Farm, plus many of the properties of those expressing opposition to the amendment this evening are already in the MUSA area. A suggestion was to exclude the City Hall site from the transition zone and add the area west of Hanson Boulevard known as Santa's Tree Farm. Wally Laptuda - asked if it is easier to sell property with or without ani assessment on It. Also, if there is an assessment against his property, what happens if he is unable to sell it? Council noted the type of housing will depend on whether or not municipal utilities are desirable. Also, normally there wouldn't be an assessment until somebody petitions for it. Residents continued to argue if the property is left at 2~-acre developments, there would never need to be a reason to extend municipal sewer and water through that area. Mayor Windschitl stated realistically, this area is prime for residential; and there are two very large parcels of property that would be large enough to pull a line across the creek if petitioned for. Also, it is the City's policy not to assess ahead of the line nor to do a blanket assessment. Councilmen Elling and Knight expressed concern with the amendment. Councilman Orttel felt the same type of development could be done under the present ordinances under the density zoning provision, but this is an attempt to clarify it and limit it to an area which could be served in the future. MOTION by Ortte1, Seconded by Lachinski, an Ordinance amending Ordinance No.8, known as the Zoning Ordinance of the City of Andover as prepared with the addition of the insertion "Development of said open space shall be prohibited until such time as public sewer and public utilities become immediately adjacent and available...", in place of pub11C utl lities; change the word under Lot Area to state "Buildable Lot Area"; floor area per dwelling should be 1200 feet. DISCUSSION: Council discussed the MUSA line and the 1990 boundaries and its possible effects on this area being proposed in the transition zone. Councilman Orttel added to the Motion: That the accompanying map beQJtereQ.as follows: to exclude the City Hall site and include the 80 acres of property known as Santa's Tree Farm immediately west of Hanson Boulevard. Second still stands. DISCUSSION: Regular City Council Meeting April 15, 1986 - Minutes Page 10 (Ordinance 8EE, Transition Area, Continued) Mr. Cooke:- said a lot of concern was that a developer would petition for sewer and water in the undeveloped portion of the property. To eliminate that concern, he would be willing to add to the restrictive convenant of the green areas that the owner would not be allowed to petition for those utilities. His motivations are not to brin9 sewer and water to that area but to avoid 2~-acre lots where there is the possibility of extending utilities through that area. VOTE ON MOTION: YES-Lachinski, Orttel, Windschitl; NO-Elling, Knight Motion failed, as a 4/5 vote is needed on zoning matters. Councilman Elling was concerned that changing the zoning ordinance will cause problems in the future. He was also troubled with the change because the largest landowner in that new zone is opposed to the change. Council continued to debate the issue, that being whether the zoning should remain at 2~ acres or to attempt to ease future problems associated with the extension of municipal sewer and water through a developed area. No further action was taken by the Council. Mr. Schneider - asked the Council to pass a Resolution in support of Senator ·Greg Dahl's bl11 relating to the Coon Creek Watershed, which may influence the County Board to vote in favor of it. No action was taken at this time. PARK MAINTENANCE/STONE/KINKADE Public Works Supervisor Frank Stone and Park & Recreation Commission Chairman Stuart Kinkade reviewed their April 15, 1986, memo on 1986 Park Maintenance Requirements. For park maintenance alone, the Public Works Department is short 31 manhours per week; and for ·capita1 equipment installation and 1986 improvements, 9.6 weeks' worth of work is needed. Mr. Stone estimated it would cost an additional $9,000 that is not in the budget to properly maintain and equip the parks. Council asked that the Park Board submit their proposals for capital improvements for 1986. Chairman Kinkade agreed to do so at the next meeting. He also a9reed to provide $4,500 from their capital expenditure budget if the Council could find the other $4,500 needed for park maintenance. Council asked Mr. Schrantz and Mr. Stone to see if the funds can be found by the next meetin9. They also agreed that if the funds are not available, the Community Park Complex should have priority maintenance. Mr. Stone then reviewed quotes and the size of fence to be insta]Jed around the back of the softball fields. For a 60-inch high fence around one field, it would cost $2,795; $10,626.70 to do 4 fields which includes a 5 percent discount. A 60-inch fence is the recommended height. For a 48-inch high fence around 4 fields, it would cost $9,481 which includes a 5 percent discount. The sum of $3,800 can be deducted from the total, as it has been carried over from last year's budget. The remainder has not been budgeted for. MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Elling, that we fence 2 ba11fie1ds at City Hall at 60-1nch hei9ht. Motion carried unanimously. Mr. Stone asked to be given permission to remove the red posts from around the City Hall and Fire Station/Public Works Building. Council feared that would encourage driving through the fields, etc., and directed that for now the posts not be replaced as they wear out. Regular City Council Meeting April 15, 1986 - Minutes Page 11 (Park Maintenance, Continued) Chairman Kinkade asked if Public Works could be authorized to begin staking Kelsey Park, noting it is felt someone is farming on the park property. Council directed that either Mr. Almgren or Mr. Schrantz put a stop to farming on park property. MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, that we authorize the City Engineer and staff to start looking for stakes and get prices to help complete staking for Kelsey Park. Motion carried unanimously. SCHEDULE PARK BOARD INTERVIEWS Mr. Johnson reported to date no one has applied. No action was taken. DENTAL INSURANCE MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Orttel, that we allow those employees interested in dental insurance to pay 100 percent of their own costs to participate in the Anoka County Group Dental Plan. Motion carried unanimously. CITY HALL REr10DELING PLAN/I!JSURANCE OPTIONS MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, that we refer the other items related to budget and personnel to the Personnel Committee. Motion carried unanimously. HIRE BUILDING INSPECTOR (TEMPORARY) MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, that. we contract with Richard Kruger as part-time Building Inspector for an amount of $8 an hour including the cost of his own vehicle with schedules to be set by Dave Almgren. Motion carried unanimous 1y. ACCEPT EASEMENTS MOTION by Ortte1, Seconded by Elling, that we accept easements from the Assemblies of God Church for the 1986 water project as presented. Motion carried unanimously. TAX INCREMENT/BOISCLAIR Mayor Windschit1 reported Boisclair has requested that someone be authorized to do an analysis of the TIF and has suggested the Miller Schroeder firm. Council generally did not have a problem with the suggested firm, but agreed Boisclaire should be providing an escrow, suggesting $5,000, before the City expends any funds on this matter. APPOINT COUNCIL REPS/ANOKA·ANDOVER STORM DRAINAGE Council agreed to discuss this at the special meeting on April 17, 1986. APPROVAL OF CLAIMS MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, to approve Claims Numbers 10907 through 11003 in the amount of $96,396.15. Motion carried unanimously. MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Elling, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. Meetlng adjourned at 12:50 a.m. , Respectfully submitted, c~~c~L Mar lla A. Peach Recor g Secretary