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Item No. 3 - Agenda Approval
Item No.4a - Sketch Plan/Creekridge Estates
Enclosed i s the Sketch Plan for the proposed Creek ridge Estates
as being developed by Carlson-Dropps. The property is located
primarily north of South Coon Creek Drive in Section 29. The
proposed Plan was not received until today¡ therefore, the ARC
has not yet had an opportunity to review it. We wi II attempt to
get our comments to you prior to the meeting.
Item No. 4b - Koeplin Sketch Plan
Enclosed is the Sketch Plan for the proposed Plat as being developed
by Wayne Koeplin. The property is located west of North Prairie Road.
All parcels contain the required area and correct dimensions per
Ordinance No. 8. The only item requiring a variance/change would
be the proposed cuI de sac street. Ordinance No. 10 shows maximum
length for a cuI de sac to be 500'; the proposed i s in excess of
1,000 feet.from the centerline of Prairie Road to the furtherest
cuI de sac extension right-of-way line. The length actually
included in the proposed Plat is per Ordinance No. 10 apprpximately
gOO' . Variances have been granted in previous plats for cuI de sacs
of approximately 800+ feet in length.
Item No. 4c - Wicklund Drainage
This item has been tabled from previous meetings to allow the home-
owner to present testimony. He wi 11 be in attendance at this meeting.
Item No. 4d - Stop Signs/Lund's Addition
The Deputies were requested on August 20, 1985 to research this and
give me a report. Checks are s till being made; we shou ld have
information by the Meeting.
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Agenda Comments
Regular Meeting - September 17, 1985
Page 2
Item No. 4e - Nuisance Ordinance
You have received a copy of a proposed Nuisance Ordinance from the
City Attorney. This Ordinance has been recently passed by the
City of Coon Rapids, however, it is my understanding that they have
not tested it ye t. In reading through the ordinance, it appears
we would have more time and effort allocated to such problems than
we do now; and because of the sma II staff size here, we simply do
not have the personnel to enforce this ordinance. Perhaps at some
future date, we might look to such a procedure.
Item No. 4f - Warning Sirens Discussion
New locations have been proposed, however, there i s some feeling
that they still do not cover the City adequately. The Mayor has
requested additional time on the agenda for discussion on this
item.
Item No. 4g - State Grant/Crooked Lake
You have received correspondence indicating the DNR wi 11 allocate
up to $25,000 in matching funds for projects to improve the water
quality in Crooked Lake. The City of Coon Rapids has pledged
$12,500;therefore, another $12,500 i~still needed. The Crooked
Lake Homeowners Association has researched the proposed aeration
project. Mr. Jim Seeman wi II be present to speak to this. It i s
my understanding that both Anoka County and the Homeowners Assn.
are being looked to for a contribution.
Item No. 5a - Temporary Mobile Home Permit/Osmundson
Due to normal delays, the Osmundsons do not have their home ready
for occupancy; and are, therefore, requesting an extension of their
permit. A motion is needed for an extension of 90 days (this is the
maximum allowed by ordinance).
Item No. 5b - Award Contract/IP85-14, IP85-15
Bids will be opened on Monday, September 16, 1985. The City Engineer
wi 11 have a report and his recommendation to you for the meeting.
Item No. 5c - Oeclare_Costs/Improvernent Projects
Resolutions are to be adopted to declare the costs and order the
Assessment Hearings for IP85-1(Cedar Hills River Estates), IP85-5
(Woodland Terrace), IP85-7(Northglen V), IP85-8(Trunk Watermain
Estension) , IP85-g(Well/Pumphouse #2), IP85-10(Water Tower),
IP85-14(Lund's Round Lake Estates), IP85-15(144th Avenue Frontage
Road) , and IP84-12(Howard Temple Addition).
Item No. 5d - Order Assessment Hearings
See Item No. 5c.
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Agenda Informatio..
September 17 Regular Meeting
Page 3
Item No. Se - Change Orders/Northglen V
Motions are needed to approve Change Order No. 2 in the amount of
$13,412.35 to allow Channel Construction to perform work for the
Woodland Terrace Project; and Change Order No. 3 in the amount of
$26S.11 for a hydrant for the Northglen V Improvement Project.
Item No. 6a - Fire Department
This item is continued from the September 3 Meeting and covers the
Council appointment of the Fire Chief rather than through the
interdepartmental election process.
Item No. 7a - Approval of Minutes
August 20, September 3, 1985
Enclosures
CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - SEPTEMBER 17, 1985 - AGENDA
1. Call to Order - 7:30 p.m.
2. Resident Forum
3. Agenda Approval
4. Discussion Items
a. Creek Ridge Estates Sketch Plan
b. Koeplin Sketch Plan
c. Wicklund Drainage
d. Stop Signs/Lund's Addition
e. Nuisance Ordinance
f. Warning Sirens Discussion
g. State Grant/Crooked Lake
h.
5. Non-Discussion Items
a. Temporary Mobile Home Permit - J. Osmundson
b. Award Contract - IP85-14, IP85-15
c. Decl are Costs - IP85-1, IP85-5, IP85-7, IP85-8, IP85-9,
IP85-10, IP85-14, IP85-15, IP84-12.
d. Order Assessment Hearings (see Item 5-c)
e. Change Order - IP85-7/Northglen V
f.
6. Reports of Commissions, Committees, Staff
a. Fire Department
7. Approval of Minutes
8. Approval of Claims
g. Adj ou rnment
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REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - SEPTEMBER 17, 1985
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-r10nthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by
Mayor Jerry Windschitl on September 17, 1985, 7:30 p.m., at the Andover City Hall,
1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmen present: Elling, Knight (arrived at 9:15), Lachinski, Orttel
Councilmen absent: None
Also present: City Attorney, William G. Hawkins; City Engineer,
James Schrantz; City Clerk/A. Administrator, P. K.
Lindquist; and others
RESIDENT FORUM
Jim Stur~eon, 16555 Yakima - commended the City Engineer and staff for the work done
to allevlate the water problem in their area and thanked them for their help.
Bob Sayers, General Mana~er, Minnesota Tire Recycling - asked to be placed on the
agenda to conslder allowlng them to place a shelter on the slte tor thelr 16
employees. Tney round they have not been able to add a third shift because there
are no facilities for employees to take a break, eat their lunch, etc. They are
proposing a mobile office, an 8x32' construction office, to be placed on site. It
would be located by the production building and would not be visible from the road.
They would put in some kitchen facilities and tables. They do not intend to be on
that site more than two years and do not want to place a permanent structure on
property they do not own. Mr. Sayers stated he had pictures showing the progress
made to date in removing the tires on site, again stating they intend to leave the
site once it is cleaned up. Council agreed to place the item on the agenda.
Mr. Sundeen, Sundeen Construction - asked the Council to grant a variance for the
Schendels. He started a bUllding for them assuming the permlt had been approved.
They were then notified they could not build that type of a structure in that zoning
district. They are asking for a variance so they can complete the structure. He
explained when they applied for the permit, he interpreted the office staff's
comments to mean there would be no problem getting a permit for the structure.
Seven days after they applied, they began work on the building thinking the permit
had been picked up by the owner. He thought they should have been notified previously
that such a structure was not allowed in that district. Mayor Windschitl noted
there are really two problems in this case. One, they started work without a
building permit. Secondly, the structure is not allowed in that zoning district.
The Clerk explained the staff member who talked with Mrs. Schendel did say it was
fine, referring to the drawings, etc., that were brought in, not as to whether or
not it would be approved. That can only be done by the Building Official. Also,
the original permit was for an accessory building, not a pole barn. Mayor Windschitl
stated the ordinance does not provide a method of granting a variance for this type
of thing. The building could be made to fit the ordinance if it were converted to a
wood siding. Starting the construction without a permit is under the authority of the
Building Official, not the City Council.
Mr. Sundeen - stated he wasn't aware of the ordinance. He stated there is only
about three hours of work left on the building, that tne entire post frame is up.
Bruce Decker, Decker Lumber - is supplying the building materials. He asked what
is the obJectlon to metal siding. Mayor Wlndschitl stated lt is basically because
of the objections of neighbors, especially in the smaller-lot areas. That is why
the ordinance has restricted that use on lots of less than three acres.
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Regular City Council Meeting
September 17, 1985 - Minutes
Page 2
(Resident Forum, Continued)
Mr. Decker - stated in this case he didn't think there was any objections from the
nelghbors and felt a variance could be granted. To convert this to a wood siding
is feasible, but it is about $2,000 more in cost. He stated both Mr. Sundeen and
Mrs. Schendel were in the office a total of five times with blue prints, etc.; and
they were never informed until the last minute that there would be a problem with
it. Starting the building without a permit was a mistake and was not intended; but
he felt the way this was handled by the staff was misleading. He felt the staff
was negligent in getting information to them. He also had trouble as to metal siding
not being an appropriate siding, noting its 15-year warranty and painted walls and
roof identical to the house. Mr. Decker stated Mr. Sundeen has been building in the
city for 9 years and they are asking for an exception in this one case.
Mayor Windschitl stated had it been done through the normal process, the owners would
have made the decision what to do when they learned the structure was not allowed.
The fact that the building got started without a permit is what is complicating this.
Council discussion with Mr. Sundeen and Mr. Decker was on the location of the
property, the surrounding area, the events that took place when applying for the
permit and starting the building, arguments for allowing the structure to be completed
by Mr. Sundeen and Mr. Decker, and the Council's position of enforcing the ordinances.
Mrs. Schendel - stated the building would be used to store their camper, boat, etc.
Attorney Hawkins advised the ordinance does not provide an abllity to grant a
variance in this instance. Council also felt by allowing the structure to be
completed, it would be setting a precedence for such buildings on the smaller lots
and the ordinance would then no longer be enforceable. Council also felt the authority
in this instance is that of the Building Official.
After some research, the Clerk discovered there is already an accessory building on
the parcel; therefore, this would be a second building with the total square
footage of accessory buildings over that of the principal structure. That, too, is
contrary to the City's ordinance and means that building in question cannot even be
bu il t.
No Council action was taken, stating the authority is with the Building Official.
Walter Dick, 4260 145th Lane, Dehn's Addition - stated he is speaking on behalf of
four other people ln thelr area. They have had a constant floooing problem, notlng
he WdS before the Council before on this issue and nothing has been done. He stated
TKDA fieldmen were out taking sightings and the level had rlsen .7 of a foot. Since
they've taken the last sighting, the water has again risen.4 to .5 of a foot. He
has water in his basement;. other lots are flooded from 50 to 90 percent. He thought
they were going to see some action taken on the problem from the City, the County,
and the City of Anoka. But he understands now that the construction of the new County
Road 116 is not going to be done this year. He stated they are really having water
problems, asking what is going to be done.
Mayor Windschitl understood the County cou·lan't acquire part of the right of way
through there and is in the process of going through the condemnation procedure to
acquire the necessary right of way. It will not be constructed this year. He
stated there doesn't appear to be any solution to the problem until an outlet can be
constructed in that area. Mr. Schrantz said the County hired an engineering firm to
do a study, and that report is due about mid-October.
Mr. Dick - wondered if there was any way to pump the water out temporarily. Some
septic systems are being affected. He will have to have hlS pumped again.
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Regular City Council Meetlng
September 17, 198~ - Minutes
Page 3
(Resident Forum, Continued)
Mayor Windschitl stated there doesn't appear to be any place to pump the water to.
Discussion noted it may be able to be pumped into the lake; however, the lake level
is higher than the water in this area. John Davidson of TKDA stated they have been
monitoring the area on a continuous basis. He stated there seems to be a correlation
between levels in that area, thinking if this were pumped into the lake, it would
eventually drain back to the wetland. The lake is consistently about one foot higher
than the wetland.
After further discussion with Mr. Dick and the Engineers about the problem it was
agreed to add the item to the agenda.
AGENDA APPROVAL
It was suggested the following items be added to the agenda: 4h, Minnesota Tire
Recycling/Mobile Office; and 4i, Drainage/Dehn's Addition.
MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Lachinski, to approve the Agenda as amended. Moti on
carrled on a 4-Yes, I-Absent (Knight) vote.
CREEK RIDGE ESTATES SKETCH PLAN
Rick Carlson, representing the developer, and Ken Gust, Engineer, reviewed the sketch
plan for Creek Kidge Estates located mainly north of South Coon Creek Drive in
Secti on 29.
Mr. Gust - stated sewer and water are not required for Phase I, and that is what they
would develop first. The adjoining property not shown in the sketch plan has been
sold to Ken Slyzuk for farming purposes, so Mr. Carlson is no longer fee owner of
that property.
Mayor Windschitl noted the item must go before the Park Board, stating there may be
some interest in taking Outlot A for park purposes.
1here was some discussion on the City Engineer's suggestion of bringing the two
streets in the plat straight down and not have any lots facing South Coon Creek
Drive. Council generally liked the configuration of the streets as proposed, was
not concerned with an additional six lots facing South Coon Creek Drive since there
will need to be four other lots facing the road on the south side and there are already
smaller lots facing the road immediately to the west.
Mr. Gust - realized the depth of the sewer line at the end is marginal and that they
may have to insulate the line if there is not enouyh g,ound cuver. He also agreed
the north lots are in the flood fringe but stated they can be filled.
Council generally agreed with the sketch plan as proposed, noting it must now proceed
through the Planning Commission and Park and Recreation Commission.
KOEPLIN SKETCH PLAN
Bob Grover and Gene Bach, Counselor Realty, represented Wayne Koeplin. . Mr. Grover
recognlzed the cul de sac exceeds the length allowed by ordinance but noted the
difficulty of dividing the parcel. Coun~il suggested providing a,stub for future
road extension to the south.
Mr. Grover - stated there are two ten-acre parcels to the south, one with a residence
on It.
Mr. Koeplin - stated the people to the south do not have any intention of moving or
of doing anything with that property. Council noted that good city planning would
dictate providing for future street extensions. Normally they would be required
Regular City Council Meeting
September 17, 1985 - Minutes
Page 4
(Koeplin Sketch Plan, Continued)
to bring the road to the end of their property line; but in this case it is not
practical because of the railroad tracks. Council generally agreed the road should
be extended either to the north or south property lines. At this time the preference
was to turn the road south but noted that is something for the engineers and Planning
Commission to decide. It was also stated that it is not the Council's intent that
they should have to lose a lot in doing so.
Council had no other problems with the proposals, noting it must now proceed through
the Planning Commission and Park and Recreation Commission.
WICKLUND DRAINAGE
(Reference the May 28, 1985, report done by Hakanson Anderson Association on the
Wicklund Drainage Project)
Roy Wlcklund, 4115 149th Avenue - stated when he built on the lot five years ago
there were no apparent water problems. He explained the dralnage area through
his property, across the road, and into a ponding area. He then starting having
more water and decided to build a pond to hOld it. Tnere were a lot of box elder
trees there, which do not grow in water; so there is evidence there was never water
there before. He talked with the City Engineer last winter, and last spring he
hired Hakanson Anderson and Associates to determine a solution to the problem. They
discovered when the property was developed, the drainage ditch was put on the
property line a foot higher than the lowest terrain. There is never water running
through the culvert unless he pumps it through, which he does on occasion. He is
asking to follow through with their recommendation to lower the culvert a foot.
And the existing terrain from the culvert down to the other ponding area would also
be lowered a foot gradually. That is what the City Engineer and his neighbor had
recommended. His preference would have been to move the culvert to the low terrain
as was suggested in the report; however, that was unacceptable to Jim Hiltz, his
neighbor. Mr. Wicklund stated he has built up his property 18 inches, plus a foot
around the outbuilding. If the culvert is lowered a foot, he has no problem. He
also noted that since a neighbor built on his side of the street last year, the amount
of water coming into his yard has quadripled.
Mr. Wicklund then showed a 5-minute film he took showing the problem he has on his
property. He stated if the City would expedite the project, he would be willing to
help defray the costs. Councilman Lachinski wanted some assurance the work would
be done to the Engineer's satisfaction and asked if he would be willing to post a
bond.
Mr. Wicklund - stated he wants the Engineer there when the work is done, but he will
not post a bond. The people who do the work should be Donded. He said to lower the
culvert d foot, the ditch across the road is going to have to be sloped. Otherwise
his preference would be to put the culvert in the low terrain. But he will agree to
staying within the current easement, and he will help defray the costs.
Jim Hiltz - stated there is a 20-foot easement in that area. He stated the drainage
shown on the film was not natural but was dug out to the culvert. He was concerned
that with the lowering of the ditch, his property will become flooded; and that is
why he is opposed to the proposal. He stated if he wanted to sell his property,
he could not finance it through FHA because the surface drainage would not be to their
requirements. Mr. Schrantz stated the normal highway ditch drainage is a half of
a percent with a grass bottom, which is what this would ,be.
Mr. Hiltz - stated it is 230 feet from the ditch to the wetland on his property.
His solution was to raise a ramp gOlng to Mr. Wicklund's garage. That would satisfy
both of their needs.
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September 17, 1985 - Minutes
Page 5
(Wicklund Drainage, Continued)
Mr. Schrantz stated when Lund's was platted, the pipe was deliberately placed a foot
higher, and he didn't know why. In looking at the contours map, Mr. Wicklund has a
right to that extra foot of drainage. He did have a concern that if the culvert
is lowered a foot and an extra foot of water is crarried to the pond ln Lund's,
those people will be complaining about high water similiar to the problem now being
faced in Dehn's Addition. His proposal would be to lower the culvert one foot
but would also require,: Mr. Wicklund to dam his pond to hold back an equal amount
of water that would be drained through the lowered culvert. Then there wouldn't be
any more water going into theLund'spond, but the water around Mr. Wicklund's buildings
would be drained.
There was a lengthy discussion between Mr. Wicklund, Mr. Hiltz, the Engineer and
the Council as to elevations, drainage prior to the development, the work Mr.
Wicklund has done on his property and the pumping he has occasionally done through
the culvert. Council noted it cannot move the problem from one side of the road to
the other, wanting to find a solution to satisfy all. After further discussion on the
matter, Council agreed the City Engineer's recommendation would meet the needs of all
concerned.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, that we authorize Mr. Wicklund to lower the
plpe ln the roadbed one foot and to create construction such to accommodate the
waterflow on the south side of the road to the ponding area.
AMENDMENT TO MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Orttel, to comply with the City
~nglneer's proposal and have all the work done at Mr. Wickluna's expense, subject to
the owner provlding an easement for drainage purposes at the location of the dam.
DISCUSSION: Mr. Schrantz reiterated his plan would be to lower the culvert one foot
and to block underneath the bridge Mr. Wicklund has already created to hold the water
back. That would hold back about the same amount of water as the extra water that
would be running through the lowered pipe. He agreed it would not solve Mr. Hiltz's
problem of grade. The City Attorney advised the City clearly has the right to
increase the quantity of water over the easement for drainage purposes as long as it
does not create a problem outside the drainage easement.
(Councilman Knight arrived at this time. 9:15 p.m.)
Mr. Wicklund - stated the only time there would be extra water through the culvert
would be during the heavy rains; otherwise, he can hold it on his property. And he
has pumped the water through the culvert in those cases anyway. Therefore, he didn't
think there would be any problem created in the Lund's pond. The amount of water
going to there will not change.
VOlE ON AMENDMENT: Carried unanimously.
VOTE ON MOTION: Carried unanimously.
MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Knight, that if this lowering of the culvert creates
a problem to the south side of 149th, that we would come back and raise that up
again to its existing elevation and at its existing location.
VOTE ON MOTION: YES-tIling, Knight, Windschitl; NO-Lachinski, Orttel as they felt
the Lity has the right to do so regardless and the City probably owes Mr. Wicklund
that extra foot because the culvert was placed incorrectly when it was installed.
Motion carried.
~IOp SIGNS/LUND'S ADDITION
MOTION by urttel, Seconded by Elling, that we approve stop signs as recommended by the
Sheriff's Department in Lund's Aadition. Motion carried unanimously.
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September 17, 1985 - Minutes
Page 6
SlATE GRANT/CROOKED LAKE
Park and Recreation CommiSSlon Chairman Merlyn Prochniak stated the Commission
has recommended the city contribute to the matching funds for projects to improve
the water quality in crooked Lake.
Jim Seeman, 13b09 Heather, Board member of the Crooked Lake Civic Association -
reviewed the efforts of Senator Dahl to obtaln up to $2~,OuO ln matchlng funds from
the uNR Tor proJects to improve water quality in Crooked Lake. The City of Coon
Rapids has allocated $12,500 out of their 1986 budget feeling that is their share
of the $25,000. The Civic Association wanted to approach the City of Andover for
the remaining $12,500, but found out they were just a few weeks late to become
involved with the bond referendum that is forthcoming. But the Park Board felt
very strongly.' that this is a very worthwhile project. The motion from the Commission
is 1) that it would be a benefit to the City to include the $12,500 matching funds
as part of the bond referendum; 2) recommend the Council look at providing the
monies out of the General Fund if the referendum should fail; and 3) recommend that
the City Engineer be the liason along with the Coon Rapids Engineer and the DNR in
the actual development and carrying out of the project.
Mr. Seeman stated the Civic Association is very much interested in being involved
as to volunteering labor, support, etc., but noted they do not have any funds to
contribute to the project. He explained this would be a joint DNR, Coon Rapids,
and Andover project, with the lead being determined by the three principals involved.
They are still wanting to solicit monies from the county and the watershed; however,
they would not be able to receive commitments from them prior to when the DNR needs
to know how much is being committed. That is why they are asking for the remaining
$12,500 from the City at this time.
Council generally felt the project is very worthwhile, but there was some concern
that Andover shouldn't have to pick up half of the costs when the majority of the
shoreline is in Coon Rapids, when Andover has divered storm drainage from the lake
for years, when Coon Rapids has the large park on the lake, and because a majority
of the residents on the lake are in Coon Rapids. Mr. Schrantz stated the last time
he talked with the Coon Rapids City Engineer, they were considering assessing their
cost of the project back to the residents.
Mr. Seeman - stated in view of the matching fund offer from the DNR, he didn't think
that was being contemplated at this time.
Council discussion noted the brochure for the bond referendum has been printed without
this project; therefore, the bond funds cannot be used for this project. That means
the funds would have to come out of the operating park funds in either 1986 or 1987.
Chairman Prochniak stated they have an overall park development scheme for the next
three years, which will be followed whether the bond issue passes or fails; and it
does not include monies for this project. They would not have any funds for this
until after that period of time; and he stated they did not want to change the
development plan at this time. The Park Commission was recommending the tunds come
out of the general fund if the bond issue funds cannot be used.
Council noted everything will be done to budget $60,000 for park development for 1986;
and given the requests and increases in the budget, that is going to be very difficult.
They felt it would not be possible to add another $I2,500 to that budget for this
proj éct. However, because the 1986 budget is being considered now, the Council agreed
to give this further consideration and let the Civic Association know what can be done
within the next few months.
MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Knight, that we continue this item to the next regular
meeting. Motion carried unanimously.
Regular City Council Meeting
September 17, 1985 - Minutes
Page 7
Council recessed at 10; reconvened at 10:10 p.m.
TEMPORARY MOBILE HOME PERMIT - J. OSMUNDSON
MOl ION by Elling, Seconded by Orttel, that we approve the temporary mobile home
permlt for J. Osmundson for 90 days. Motion carried on a 3-Yes, 2-Absent (Knight,
Lachinski) vote.
AWARD CONTRACTS - IP85-14, IP85-15
Harlan Olson of BRA reviewed the bids received for the street improvement Project
IP85-14 ln Lund's, recommending the oids be awarded for Forest Lake Contracting for
the base bid and the alternate of doing Guarani Street. Mr. Schrantz explained the
assessment for Guarani Street will be about $q,OuO for two units and $6,000 for one
unit. Programmed Land, who owns the property, has agreea to these assessments; and
so has Mr. Henry.
Wayne Backman, New Generation Homes - stated these numbers are acceptable to
Programmed Land wlth the understanding that the property can be divided into three
lots and that would be their assessment for those three lots.
Paul Henry - stated these costs are a considerable improvement over the initial
estlmate. Though he would prefer the road be done ten years from now, he will agree
to having Guarani Street done at this time. He asked the logistics of having tne
extra 30 feet dedicated from his property returned to him. Council noted the City
would vacate that portion of the easement and it would revert back to the owner.
Mr. Backman - stated they are willing to give the right of way needed with the under-
standing that they would be back before the Council with a plat for those three lots
this fall to handle the plattlng process and street easement all at the same time.
They are willing to provide right of trespass at this time.
MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Knight, introducing a Resolution accepting bids and
awardlng contract for the improvement project or IPö5-14, Lund's Round Lake Estates
to Forest Lake Contracting, the base bid plus alternate bid for a total of $121,480.50.
Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Knight, ~econded by Elling, to bring back the motion. Motion carried
unanimously.
MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Knlght, introducing a Resolutlon accepting bids and
awardlng contract for IP85-14 for bituminous streets in Lund's Round Lake Estates
for the base and alternate bid, combined price of $110,552.50. (See Resolution R101-85)
Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by El liny, Seconded by Knight, introducing a Resolution accepting bids and
awardlng contract for IP85-15, Dehn's Addition Frontage Road in the amount of $10,928
to Forest Lake Contractlng. (See Resolution R102-85) Motion carried unanimously.
DRAINAGE/DEHN'S ADDITION
Council discussion with the Engineers and Mr. Uick was on possible solutions to the
water problem ln that area at this time.
Mr. Dick - suggested pumping the water over the hill and into Round Lake. Mr.
Schrantz stated it would cost $700 a day to rent a large pump; ur it could be
purchased for between $21,000 to $32,000.
Discussion wa2;on what effect pumping into the lake would have on the lake, as to
possible flooding around the lake or possible drainage back into the wetland. Mr.
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September 17, 1985 - Minutes
Page 8
(Drainage/Dehn's Addition, Continued)
Davidson stated the pumping done during the 198u projects definitely took the water
down behind their property. The residents were asked if there was any place that a
dike could be built to keep the water from reaching their property.
Mr. uick - stated straight east of the pipeline property ts.afilled area where cattle
used to go through. He felt if fill was placed on top of that, it may split the
wetland area apart, and the water could be pumped from the north area into the lake.
That would alleviate the problem on their property and would reduce the amount of
pumping needed.
It was determined thatpumping \/ith a large pump for one week would cost about $5,000.
About one-acre foot can be pumped in two hours, and that would raise the lake about
one half of a foot in that week.
Council thought there would be some merit in purchasing a pump rather than renting one.
The Engineer was asked to research the costs of purchasing a pump and hose and to
report back to the Council for the next meeting. The Mayor also suggested the City
talk to Anoka County about help in financing the pumping of this area.
Mr. Dick - was concerned that if something isn't done soon, it will freeze up and
create more problems in the spring.
Council agreed to decide on getting a pump within a few weeks; and if one is purchased,
they will try to pump the area into Round Lake.
MINNESOTA TIRE RECYCLING/MOBILE OFFICE
Council discussed the proposal made by Mr. Sayers during the Resident Forum. Mr.
Sayers showed aerial photos of the progress of tire removal on the site, estimating
half of the tires have already been removed. The roads and fire lanes are in. He
again stated they estimate being off the site within two years, that they have not
been able to work with Mr. Heidelberger and do not intend to stay at that location any
longer than necessary.
Counci Iman Lachinski didn't think the Council would want a permanent building on
that site, that this would be acceptable on the condition the mobile office would be
removed upon completion of the tire removal on the site. Councilman Orttel also noted
if the City is satisfied with the amount of progress being made and providing the
mobile office for the employees is part of the construction process, then it should
be allowed. He also noted it would not be visible from the road and will not be
unsightly.
MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Lachinski, to allow Minnesota Tire Recycling use of
an 8x32-foot mobile office to be used as a lunchroom for their personnel, under the
conditions regulating the original office trailer, which would be that both mobile
offices would be removed upon cease ot the operation. (See Amendment to R85-~3)
Motion carried unanimously.
DECLARE CLOSTS/SETTING PUBLIC HEARING
MOTION by Orttel, ~econded by Lachinski, a Resolution declaring cost, directing
preparation of assessment roll and setting date for assessment public hearing for
the improvement of sanitary sewer and bituminous street construction for Project
No. 84-12. (See Resolution RI03-85) Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Elling, a Resolution declaring cost, directing
preparation of assessment roll and setting date for assessment public hearlng for
the improvement or bituminous street construction for Project 85-1. (See
Resolution R10g-85) Motion carried unanimously.
Regular city Council Meeting
September 17, 1985 - Minutes
page 9
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, a Resolutlon declaring cost, directing
preparation of assessment roll and setting date for assessment publlC hearing for
the improvement of watermain, sanitary sewer, storm drainage, and bituminous street
construction for Project No. 85-5. (See Resolution R105-85) Motion carried
unanimously.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Knlght, that the assessment public hearings for the
84-85 projects be held on Uctober 7, 7:30 p.m., at the Andover City Hall. Motion
carried unanimously.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Elling, a Resolution declaring cost, directing
preparation of assessment roll and setting date for assessment public hearlng tor
the improvement of watermain, sanitary sewer, storm drainage and bituminous street
construction for Project No. 85-7. (See Resolution R108-85) Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, a Resolution declaring cost, directing
preparation of assessment roll and setting date for assessment public hearing for
the improvement of water lateral, trunk source and storage (area charge) construction
for Projects 8U-3, 85-8, 85-9 and 85-10. (See Resoution R107-85) Motion carried
unanimously.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, a Resolution declaring cost, directing
preparation of assessment roll and setting date for assessment public hearing for
the improvement of trunk, source and storage (connection charge) construction for
Project No. 80-3, 85-8, 85-9 and 85-10. (See Resolution R108-85) Motion carried
unanimously.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Elling, a Resolution declaring cost, directing
preparation of assessment roll and setting date for assessment public hearing for
the improvement of bituminous street construction for Project No. 85-14. (See
Resolution R109-85) Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Elling, a Resolution declaring cost, directing
preparation of assessment roll and setting date for assessment public hearing for
the improvement of bituminous street construction for Project No. 85-15, Dehn's
Addition. (See Resolution R110-85) Motion carried unanimously.
FINAL PAYMENT/ORYDEN-HOWARD-TEMPLE ADDITION
MOTION by Urttel, Seconded bY Elling, a Resolution accepting work and directing flnal
payment to Dryden excavating for Project No. 84-12, for the improvement of sanitary
sewer and bituminous street constructlon in the Howard-Temple Addition area \See
Resolution Rl1l-85) Motion carried unanimously.
PLANS AND SPECI~ICATIONS/WATER TOWER AND PU~1PHOUSE NO.2
MuTION by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, that we approve the Final Plans and
~~ications, order advertisement for bids for Project No. 85-9, Pumphouse No.2,
with the addition of a brick veneer exterior option. (See Resolution Rl12-85)
Motion carried unanlmously.
MOTIUN by Orttel, Secondea by Lachinski, a Resolutlon to approve the Final Plans and
Specifications and order advertisement for bids for Project 85-10, the water tower
construction, as prepared. (See Resolution R113-85) Motion carried unanimously.
CHANGE ORDERS/NORTHGLEN V / WOODLAND TERRACE PROJECTS/HOWARD-TEMPLE
MuTION by Orttel, Seconded by Elllng, that we approve Change Order No.1 for
Nurthglen 5th Addition to complete the construction of a stub street to the County
Road 116 in Project 85-7 in the amount of $1,849.75. Motion carried unanimously.
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Regular City Council ~Ieeting
September 17, 1985 - Minutes
Page 10
(Change Orders, Continued)
MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Knight, to approve Change Order No.2 for Northglen
Fifth Addition, Project 85-7, for the amount of $13,412.45. Motion carried
unanimously.
Council discussion with John Davidson of TKDA and Curt Adams representing the
Woodland Terrace development was about the contractor for the Woodland Terrace
utilities and street construction project and the problems that have occurred. Mr.
Davidson explained the problem of the contractor refusing to do the work on an
extension to the project that the contract· clearly called for him to do. The
contract called for doing the extension at the same unit prices bid. However, the
contractor said because he had pulled the machine off the job, he wanted additional
mobilization charges. They could not reach an agreement with the contractor; and
Channel Construction, who is working on the Northglen 5th Addition project, agreed
to do the extension at his unit prices.
Mr. Davidson stated they could have faught the issue under the present contract,
but he made the jUdgement not to do so at that time in an attempt to get the work
done. TKDA had sent the contractor a letter indicating there will be some additional
work to be done, wanting that work done before the curbing crew.began work. The
contractor took that to mean not to do any more work until the change order was
slgned, and he pulled out of the project completely at that time. It is a matter of
interpretation of the letter.
Mr. Adams stated the contractor is off the job again at this time, and he wasn't sure
why. He didn't think there was enough of an incentive for the contractor to complete
the work. The contractor has also threatened to pull off the project completely if
a time extension is not given.
Council discussion was that this contractor has proved himself to be not responsible,
and therefore not a desirable contractor to work with in the city in any future
projects. Mr. Davidson said they are making every effort to get the job done against
these kinds of oppositions from the contractor. He did recommend the two-week time
extension on the project in an effort to get the job completea:· and to hold the
contractor responsible for the work he has done. His feeling was to give the
contractor the benefit of the doubt because of the possible misinterpretatlon of
the letter. The curbing and servicing of the additional seven lots is what remains
to be completed, and they are still negotiating with Channel Construction to
complete it.
Mr. Adams asked what is the penalty for not completing the project by the completion
date. He stated the contractor has also blocked all the storm sewers. Mr. Davidson
stated there is a liquidated damages clause in the contract for damages caused by
his delay. He thought part of the problem with the storm sewers was because of
erosion, and he dldn't know if all of that was the contractor's responsibility. But
the project is the contractor's, and he is responsible for it until he turns it over
to the City.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, that we approve Change Order No.3 to
lnclude three Mueller Hydrants in the Northglen 5th Addltion instead of the Waterous
hydrants. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, that the Change Order No.1 for American
Contracting be approved, a non-money change; the change being that the City will
defer the imposition of liquidated damages until September 29.
VOTE ON MOT! ON: YES-Elling, Knight, Lachinski, Orttel; NO-Windschitl as he felt
the contractor probably will not get the work completed in that time period, that
many problems have been created by the contractor for the developer, and that damages
should be assessed as of the completion date of the contract. Motion carried.
Regular City Council Meetlng
September 17, 1985 - Minutes
Page 11
(Change Orders, Continued)
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, to approve a compensating change order on
ProJect 84-12, Howard-Temple ~ddition in the amount of $1,432.01, which would make
the full project revised contract amount $29,355.21. Motion carried unanimously.
ANDOVER VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT
Council briefly discussed the issue of whether the election of the Fire Chief should
remain as lS, that being elected by the firefighters and approved by the Council, or
changed to have the Council appoint the Chief. There was general agreement that the
present system is functioning well and should not be changed at this time. No
action was taken; therefore, the election of Fire Chief remains as is.
BUuGET MEET! NG
MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Knight, that the City Council meet at 7 o'clock,
September 24, with the City ~ttorney and LeFevere Lefler Kenneay O'Brlen & Drawz
firm for discussion of the problem, and then for a budget meeting to follow at
8 o'clock or whenever the otherone is over. Motion carried unanimously.
PUBLIC WORKS
Frank Stone stated there is $7,000 in the budget for a water truck. What he has
decided to do is look for a better chasis to put on the tank they now have. Council
agreed with the proposal and asked that he come back with some quotes.
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN
MOTION by Lachlnski, Seconded by Orttel, that we hire Marcie Peach to start work on
the Capital Improvements Program at the rate of $6.50 an huur. Motion carried
unanimously.
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Knight, that we approve Checks 9995 through 10061
wlth the exception of IU033 for a sum or $1~5,686.04. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Knight, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 11:47 p.m.
RespectfullY submltted,
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Mar lla A. Peach
Recor Secretary
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