HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC October 1, 1985
CITY of ANDOVER
1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW.. ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304. (612) 755-5100
MEMORANDUM
TO: Ma or and council
COPIES TO: .
FROM: James E. Schrantz
DATE: September 27, 1985
REFERENCE: Agenda Commen~s - October 1. 19S5
Item No. 2 - Resident Forum
There are many property owners who are still having flooding of
their property and water in their basements. These people may
be at the meeting.
Item No. 3 - Agenda Approval
Please add Item No. Sa (Crooked Lake Improvement Project/Matching
Funds) and Item No. 6g (Water Problems/Dehn's Addition/Pumping) .
These items were not on the published agenda.
Item. No. 4 - Public Hearing - Delinquent Sewer/Water Bills
Two resolutions have been prepared - one each for water and sewer.
Shirley has included a memo explaining the amount of time bills
are delinquent.
Item No. 5 - Continued Public Hearing - 1986 Budget
The budget add-deducts will be provided by ;·ls. Peach per Council
request.
Discussion Items
Discussion items each have item memo.
What's Happening?
9/30 Rosella's court case starts.
Frank Stone will be back. He has been in Rochester attending the
~¡VWA Conference - hopefully Frank will have been able to get more
ideas on pumps from the utility superintendents attending the con-
ference.
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Melanie DeLuca and I are meeting to locate and order the Crime
Watch signs.
Harold Israelson is meeting with me on the boundaries between
the Coon Creek Watershed District and the Lower Rum River Water
Management Organization.
The Lower Rum River Water Management Organization meets for its
regular meeting at 7:00 A.H. at the Country Kitchen (agenda attached).
Thursday, October 3rd, at 9:00 A.M., the Citres~of~Coon Rapids,and
Andover, the watershed, the DNR and the Crooked Lake Association
are meeting to discuss the Crooked Lake DNR grant.
Monday, October 7th is the public hearing for all outstanding
improvement projects. Public notices and individual notices were
given to the City Council at the September 24th budget meeting.
Please note October l4th is a Holiday for some of uS working class -
it is Columbus Day observed.
I would like to see the Council and staff put together a happening
list and calendar so various Council people and others can attend
meetings of interest. Example: If Jim Elling golfs on Thursday
P.M. , we may all want to go along.
JES:vv
CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - OCTOBER l, 1985
REVISED AGENDA
1. Call to order - 7:30 P.~.
2. Resident Forum
3. Agenda Approval
4. Public Hearing - Delinquent Sewer/Water Bills
5. Continued Public Hearing - 1986 Budget
a. Crooked Lake Improvement Project/Hatching Funds
6. Discussion Items
a. Richard Szyplinski Variance
b. Russell/Stack Drainage
c. l8lst Avenue/Section 1 Discussion
d. 5-Year I1SA Plan
e. Nuisance Ordinance, Cont.
f. Warning Sirens Discussion, Cont.
g. Water Problems/Dehn's Addition/Pumping
h.
7. Non-Discussion Items
a.
b.
8. Reports of Committees, Staff
a. Park Board
b. Fire Department
9. Approval of Hinutes
lO. Approval of Claims
l1. Adjournment
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~ 01 ANDOVER
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - OCTOBER 1, 1985
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by
Mayor Jerry Windschitl at 7:35 p.m., October 1, 1985, at the Andover City Hall, 1685
Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Councilmen present: Elling, Knight, Orttel
Councilman absent: Lachinski
Also present: City Attorney, William Hawkins; City Engineer, James
Schrantz; and others
RESIDENT FORUM
Terry Hausam, 3731 172nd Lane - adjoining Cedar Crest park. He stated the pond has
engulfed hlS property. He had talked to the Council about it previously and some
improvements were made. But since mid-August they have had a heavy rainfall, their
property has been reduced from one acre to a quarter of an acre. A heavily wooded
portion of his property is two to three feet under water. He is concerned that if
that freezes in this winter, the trees will die. He asked if that water could be
pumped out of there. Council discussed the possibility of pumping the water out of
there with the City Engineer. Mr. Schrantz stated both pumps are being repaired at
the moment, but one should be back shortly. Council suggested the area be pumped
prior to that water freezing in the wooded area. The possibility of raising up the
birm a foot around the pond was suggested; however, it was felt this would not
resolve the problem. It was agreed the Engineer will see that the water is pumped
out of the area before it freezes. The Engineer was also directed to determine what
can be done to provide a permanent solution to the problem.
Brian Nystrom, 4075 149th Avenue NW - stated hunting is allowed just north of 149th.
Last week there was a hunter 300 feet from their house that short:; a pheasant out of
season. He called the sheriff; but by time he came out, the hunter was gone. Mr.
Nystrom stated he is concerned that a casualty may occur because of the hunting so close
to their residential area. Because of the increasing population in that area, he
suggested moving the hunting boundary further north of 149th. He stated he under-
stands the problem of the growing urban area versus rural Andover; however, he does
not want to see any of his or the neighbors' children accidentally shot either.
Council discussion was on the provisions of the ordinance, noting permission must
be received from the property owner and that hunting is prohibited on anything less
than 20 acres. Council was reluctant to change the boundaries unless the item was
placed on a published agenda. Council agreed to add this to the October 15 regular
agenda.
Ken Gust, Developer - asked the Council to consider looking at a sketch plan for the
development in Section 28 in the area of 141st and Heather. He stated a preliminary
plat had been done previously by a different developer. The Planning Commission had
suggested he come to the Council with a revised sketch plan. He wanted to proceed with
that development as soon as possible and to have a model home up yet this fall. He
then showed the sketch plan with a through street rather than a cuI de sac as proposed
in the original preliminary plat. They are also suggesting the City vacate the
easement for Dahlia because it is not feasible to build a road in the peat at that
location. They are proposing to move that portion of the road to the west. Council
generally had no problem with the sketch plan as proposed and suggested the City
Engineer look at it further. Council suggested Mr. Gust proceed through the Planning
Commission public hearing with a regular preliminary plat based on this sketch plan
after talking with the City Engineer.
Regular City Council Meeting
October 1, 1985 - Minutes
Page 2
AGENDA APPROVAL
The following additions were suggested to the Revised Agenda: Item 6h, Melanie Deluca/
Neighborhood Watch Signs; 6i, J. Burke/Sonsteby Lawsuit/Closed Meeting; 6j, Glen Sipe
and John Lawrence Sanitary Sewer and Water/Requests; 6h, Landfill Surcharge; and Sc,
Personnel Committee.
MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Knight, that we adopt the Agenda as amended but to
reverse Items 5 and 6. Motion carried unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARING - DELINQUENT SEWER/WATER BILLS
Charlie Veiman - felt the type of language used in the letter to the residents regarding
the delinquent utility bills was misleading. He also felt the facts should be more
specifically stated, as he did not receive a notice of an overdue bill prior to receiving
this letter.
Council noted only these not paying their account by October 10 will be certified to
the County.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Elling, introducing a Resolution certifying to the
County Auditor for collection unpaid sewer user charges as presented, and note' that
anyone that is able to pay their amounts that are due prior to the certification to
the County shall be removed from the roll. (See Resolution Rl14-85) Motion carried
unanimously.
MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Knight, introducing a Resolution certifying to the
County Auditor for collection of unpaid water user charges as presented. (See
Resolution Rl15-85) Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Knight, a Resolution certifying to the County Auditor
Tor collection a sewer availability charge paid by the City of Andover as presented,
PIN 29 32 24 31 0050. (See Resolution R116-85) Motion carried unanimously.
RICHARD SZYPLINSKI VARIANCE
Council generally agreed with the recommendation of the Planning Commission.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Elling, introducing a Resolution denying the variance
request of Richard Szyplinski, 15520 Potowatomi Street NW, Rum River Forest, as
presented. (See Resolution Rl17-85) Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Elling, that for Richard Szyplinski the amount of the
varlance request be applied against the Special Use Permit for the use of having a
deck on the Rum River. Motion carried unanimously.
RUSSELL/STACK DRAINAGE
Tom Krinke, 5131 15Sth - stated they had a neighborhood meeting last Sunday evening
and reached an agreement with Clyde Russell regarding a drainage easement to correct
the drainage problem in their addition. He stated the neighborhood is concerned that
this problem should be resolved now, that time is running out with the onset of
colder weather. And they want to begin work on the drainage that was authorized by
the Council previously as soon as possible. Mr. Russell is concerned about the
permanent flooding of his lowland. Mr. Krinke stated the neighbors have agreed to
escrow $100 per family, which is about $1600, to help Mr. Russell obtain the necessary
permits from the DNR to provide an outlet from his field to the Rum River. The
neighbors will take the responsibility to help him if the lowland remains flooded as
a result of this project. Mr. Krinke stated they are now asking the Council to
proceed with draining the two ponds to the lowland. They would like to have a culvert
Regular City Council Meeting
October 1, 1985 - Minutes
Page 3
(Russell/Stack Drainage, Continued)
put underneath the access road which goes to the lowland and if possible to pump
from the ponds to the lowland and from the lowland into the river. They realize
there will be a problem because of the birm along the river bank. But if the water
gets to be a problem and Mr. Russell cannot farm thati.lowland, then the neighbors will
get the necessary permits to drain the water to the Rum River.
Mr. Schrantz estimated the cost of materials to do the project to the lowland would
be about $5,000. He is now planning to use the Public Works employees for the labor.
He felt he would be able to do the ditching and the culvert and stay within the $11,000
that is in the improvement project funds for this project.
Clyde Russell - stated he would provide the easement with the understanding that it
would be a limited easement for one year only. If it is determined at that time that
this is not working, that his field is not usable and is flooded, he wants to have
some recourse that that would not be a permanent situation.
Mr. Kingle - stated that is where the neighbors would come in to help get a permanent
dralnage to the Rum River, which was agreed to last week.
Mr. Russell - stated he wants to help the neighbors out and would be willing to lose
a crop on that land for a year, but he is not willing to grant a permanent easement
and then find out his fields will be flooded every year and would not be farmable
because of this project. He did not want to grant a permanent easement unless he can
be guaranteed that his fields will not be permanently flooded. Otherwise he would
have no recourse if this project doesn't work. And if it works, he would give a
permanent easement.
There was a lengthy discussion between the Council, the Engineer, the residents, and
Mr. Russell on this issue. The Council noted the City must have a permanent easement
before it can expend that kind of money on the project and to put pipe in the ground.
It was suggested a permanent easement be granted where the pipe would be laid and the
City be given an easement to flood the lowland but to hold the City harmless. The
residents reiterated what had been agreed to at their meeting, that they would put
money in escrow for two years to be used if needed to get the permits from the DNR to
get the water out to the river. They realized the ponds need to be drained as soon
as possible and that there is not enough time to get the necessary permits to drain
into the river yet this fall.
Oiscussion was on the'elevations of the lowland and the most practical route to the
Rum River. Council noted permits would be needed from both the DNR and the Corps of
Engineers, feeling it would not be possible to obtain them yet this fall. The
neighbors wanted to drain the ponds this fall, hoping that would alleviate a drainage
problem in the spring. The Council and Mr. Schrantz agreed with that. A suggestion
was then to take the water from the lowland to the river by going north; however, the
problem with that is it involves two other property owners. And it was not known if
they would be willing to donate the easements necessary to drain in that direction.
Mr. Russell - stated he would be willing to provide the equipment to grade out a ditch
ln that dlrection, and that he would allow it to go along his fence line, though that
is higher than if it were drained through the Pfannschmidt property. He also stated
he would contribute up to $1,000 to help solve this problem.
Discussion then centered around Mr. Russell's concern of providing an outlet for the
excess water that would be drained into his lowland from the residential area, the
problem with getting the water over the banks along the river, and in which direction
it would be best to carry that water. Mr. Russell favored ditching to the north and
said he would be willing to provide an easement in that direction. Council was agreeable
to the proposal as long as the City can obtain a permanent drainage easement on the
property.
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Regular City Council Meeting
October 1, 1985 - Minutes
Page 4
(Russell/Stack Drainage, Continued)
A suggestion was to obtain a confined permanent easement from Mr. Russell of some
dimension, such as 10 to 20 feet, for drainage purposes only with a separate agreement
whereby he would allow the City to spill water beyond that easement for the first 12
months. That would allow the ponds to be drained this fall to alleviate the problem
with the residents and would allow time to gain the necessary permits and construct an
outlet to the Rum River next spring. There was some concern that the City would not
have the funds to do both the ditching and drainage from the ponds as well as provide
an outlet to the river.
It was finally agreed the City would spent up to $11,000 on this project upon receipt
of a permanent easement for drainage from Mr. Russell. Drainage would be to the north
if possible. Whatever work needs to be done to outlet the water to the Rum River
would be the responsibility of the residents in the area in an agreement worked out
between them and Mr. Russell. Mr. Russell was concerned about what would happen if
the permits to drain to the river would not be approved. The Engineer was asked to
talk with the DNR and the Corps of Engineers to obtain a verbal answer as to whether
or not they thought permits for that purpose would be granted. Mr. Schrantz also stated
the area needs to be surveyed to draw up the legal descriptions for the easements with
Mr. Russell.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, that we authorize the City Engineer to go ahead
wlth the drainage for the Russell/Stack Addition subject to receiving a permanent
easement for the outlet of the water for the various properties and further authorize
the City Engineer to include a culvert under the access road if needed, for an amount
not to exceed $11,000. Costs in excess of $11,000 necessary to correct the drainage
problems would be borne by the residents in the area of Russell/Stack Addition
provided by an agreement between them. Motion carried unanimously.
The Engineer and Attorney were asked to have the easements drawn up and signed as soon
as possible, noting the urgency of proceeding with the project this fall.
WATER PROBLEMS/DEHN'S ADDITION/PUMPING
Mr. ';$Chrantz noted some prices received to purchase a pump. The largest pump of
2,500 GPM with 1,000 feet of hose would be $36,000. Council discussed the various
sized pumps and costs of each. Mr. Schrantz stated the company would allow the City
to rent this pump and would credit 80 percent of the rental cost toward its purchase.
Council then discussed the water problem in Dehn's Addition. The resident at 14465
Guarani presented pictures of his back yard which showed the water had risen six feet
in the past two weeks.
Council realized the severity of the problem, questioning the possibility of pumping
that water into Round Lake. Mr. Schrantz stated at this point the wetland is only
slightly higher than the lake. He didn't know how much could be added to the lake,
or at what point the lake would leak, or how long that water would stay in the lake.
Council then agreed to pump the water into Round Lake for two full days to see if it
makes any appreciable difference in the water level around Dehn's Addition. It was
noted the'water level of the lake must be monitored to see that none of the homes
on the lake are flooded. Mr. Schrantz was authorized to rent a large pump to do this
and to hire additional staff as needed on a temporary basis.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, that we authorize the City Engineer to arrange
the renting of a high volume pump to pump in the Dehn's Addition/Round Lake area and
authorize him to hire part-time help as needed for this period of time. Motion carried
unanimously.
Regular City Council Meeting
October 1, 1985 - Minutes
Page 5
Council recessed at 9:30; reconvened at 9:40 p.m.
M. DELUCA/NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH SIGNS
Melanie DeLuca, Community School Coordinator, briefly reviewed the fall Community
School program, noting its success with 682 people registered for classes to date.
Ms. DeLuca then showed the Council an example of a crime watch sign used by the City
of Minneapolis, stating she liked this particular one because it is easy to see.
She stated the estimated cost of $50 each is about what it will cost. She also asked
the Council's opinion as to where these signs will be located. If they are located
at the entrance points to neighborhoods, it would take about 125 signs for the entire
City over a period of three to four years and would cost about $6,100. Or signs
could be placed only at the main entrances to the City, which would be 14 signs for
$700. Or any combination of placements could be determined.
Council discussion noted the purpose of the signs are to discourage crime inca
neighborhood and that the signs should be placed at the entrances to the neighborhoods
involved in the program. It was felt the cost for the entrances to the City and to
the specific neighborhoods would cost about $1,500 per year, and the Council agreed
to budget that much for signs each year.
Council also agreed with the sign shown but to take off the words on top and place
"Andover" instead; to read "Crime Watch" instead of watch force; and to read "Area"
on the bottom.
Council then closed the meeting to meet with the City Attorneys regarding the Rosella
Sonsteby lawsuit. 10:00 p.m. The regular meeting resumed at 10:42 p.m.
1986 PROPOSED BUDGET
Council discussed the proposed Resolution setting the levy for 1986, noting the amount
shown would mean a .006 increase in the mill levy. That was. genera lly acceptab Ie to the
Counc il . It was also felt the request of $12,500 for the Rum River Management Board
special levy was excessive, agreeing to levy $8,000 instead.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Elling, establishing the 1986 levy to be certified to
the Anoka County Auditor by the City of Andover. The City Council of the City of
Andover hereby resolves the total non-bonded indebtedness levy is hereby set at $656,930,
and the total bonded in debtedness levy is hereby set at $138,468; the rest as
prepared, with the exception of the Special Levy to be set at $8,000 for the Rum
River Management. All other levies are hereby cancelled per the attached list. (See
Resolution R118-85) Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Elling, to work on balancing the 1986 budget after the
assessment hearings on Monday, October 7. Motion carried unanimously.
LANDFILL SURCHARGE
Mr. Schrantz stated if the City wishes to use the $3,400 landfill surcharge, it must
submit a plan to the County by October 10. This is a two-year program. It was agreed
to have the City Engineer look into the matter further and the Council will make a
decision on it at the October 7 special meeting. It was thought the funds could be
used for oil tanks.
WARNING SIRENS DISCUSSION
Council viewed a w~p of the City showing the coverage with the use of five sirens. It
was agreed the Buídling Official will redo the map using six sirens to cover the City.
Regular City Council Meeting
October 1, 1985 - Minutes
Page 6
(Warning Sirens Discussion, Continued)
Mayor Windschitl also noted it will be possible to finance the program over a five-
year period if the Council so chooses. The Building Official was asked to provide
a financial package to the Council for six sirens for the October 7 budget meeting.
181ST AVENUE/SECTION 1 DISCUSSION
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Elling, to table the 181st Avenue, Section 1 Discussion.
Motlon carried unanimously.
FIVE-YEAR MSA PLAN
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, that we approve the Five-Year MSA plan as
presented by the City Engineer. Motion carried unanimously.
GLEN SIPE, JOHN LAWRENCE/SANITARY SEWER & WATER REQUEST
Mr. Schrantz explained Mr. Sipe and Mr. Lawrence have requested the city utilities.
He is proposing to run separate jacks under Round Lake Boulevard to service each
parcel. He reviewed the City's costs and the assessment for each parcel. The assessment
for each would be $3,190 for water and $2,770 for sanitary sewer, for a total assessment
of $5,960.
Council questioned jacking separate lines under the road, suggesting the Engineer
look at running one larger line under to serve both parcels. Mr. Schrantz stated
then a manhole would be needed on the other side. Council agreed to proceed with the
request, noting a waiver of the 429 procedure is needed from each property owner.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Elling, that we authorize the City Engineer to proceed
wlth the Sipe and Lawrence families on Round Lake Boulevand to provide water and
sewer services and obtain a waiver of the 429 proceeding. (See Resolution R119-85)
Motion carried unanimously.
TRI-CITY NEWS REPORTS
Ms. Deluca asked who would be typing up the snynopsis of the Council meetings for the
Tri-City News and gathering reports. Charlie Veiman has volunteered to gather
information for articles in the paper.
Council agreed to have Mr. Veiman work on this matter and directed Marcie Peach to
type up the Council Minutes for the paper. They also stated one of the Councilmen
will proof the layout prior to publication.
PERSONNEL COMMITTEE
Councilman Elling stated he has gathered job descriptions for the City Clerk/Treasurer,
Administrator, and Acting Administrator positions. He suggested the Council write
up job descriptions prior to advertising for a position should the resignation from
Ms. Lindquist be accepted.
Councilman Knight stated they met with Patricia Lindquist regarding her letter of
resignation and her reasons for doing so. He said basically she was unhappy with the
rating system as developed, particularly with the relationship between herself and
the City Engineer. She thought a 22 percent difference was too much, that a 10 to 12
percent difference would be more acceptable. And she would be willing to have tae pay
inequity corrected over a three- to five-year period, not all at one time. Councilman
Knight stated the only other thing was she felt her recommendations regarding the other
employees in the office were not given proper consideration by the Council.
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Regular City Council Meeting
October 1, 1985 - Minutes
Page 7
(Personnel Committee, Continued)
Councilman Elling said Ms. Lindquist had said if the Council is willing to reconsider
the points for her position and bring it within 10 percent of the City Engineer's
and a salary adjustment over three, four, or five years, she would be willinlg to
withdraw her resignation. Otherwise, it stands effective October 4. Councilman
Elling also stated he personally felt she went about this the wrong way. Councilman
Knight stated he too didn't think her actions were the best method of handling the
situation and said they expressed that to Ms. Lindquist when they met with her.
At this point there was no suggestion as to what should be done; and Mayor Windschitl
stated absent any Council action, the resignation becomes effective October 4.
Mayor Windschitl then asked if the Council feels it is time to hire a City Administrator.
Councilmen Elling and Knight thought that may be necessary at some time in the future
but not at this time. They thought a Clerk/Treasurer position would be adequate.
At this point Mayor Windschitl stated the Council must either hire or appoint a Clerk/
Treasurer and a Zoning Administrator, and build the budget responsibilities into
someone's job description.
It was agreed to appoint a temporary Clerk/Treasurer and Zoning Administrator, to
meet next week to write up job descriptions, and to advertise for the vacancy. Mayor
Windschitl also asked that prior to the meeting next week the Council give some
serious thought as to how the City should function administratively.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, that Marcie Peach be appointed temporary Clerk/
Ireasurer of the City of Andover at the rate of $10 an hour for up to two hours per
day. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Knight, that we temporarily assign the Zoning Administrator
dutles to Jim Schrantz. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Orttel, that we have a special City Council meeting on
the 8th of October to discuss restructing of City Hall personnel. Motion carried
unanimously.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Elling, that Jim Schrantz be the office administrator
until this is resolved, that the administrative decisions be made by him; and that
Marcie Peach be given authority to be able to delegate work to get it done. Motion
carried unanimously.
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Knight, that we approve Checks 10062 through 10118 for
a sum of $167,686.37. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Elling, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 12:13 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Marce la A. Peach
Recordi Secretary
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