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~ 01 ANDOVER
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - AUGUST 7, 1984
AGENDA
1- Call to Order - 7:30 P.M.
2. Agenda Approval
3. Resident Forum
4. Discussion Items
a. Easement vacation/Barnes Rolling Oaks 2nd Addition
b. Lot Split/So Britton
C. Sketch Plans/L. Carlson
d. Sketch Plan/D. Howard
e. Final Plat/Kadlec 2nd Addition
f. Award Contract/Kadlec 2nd Addition, IP84-7
g. City Hall Site Development
h. Acquire Lot 1, Block 1, Hartfiel's Estates
i.
j.
k.
5. Non-Discussion Items
a. Kennel License Renewal/J. Bialke
b. Amendment/Ordinance 32-Sanitary Sewers
c. Nordeen Addition Tax Exempt Lots
d. Date-P&Z Interviews
e. Appointments to Ditch No. 57 Repair Committee
f. Amend Resolution No.46/Dble Frontage Lot Exception
g. Reduce Bond/Indian Meadows
h. Accept Easements/'MSA Streets
i. Award MSA Projects
j. Final Acceptance/IP83-2, 2A, 3
k. Declare Cost/Order ROll/IP83-2, 2A, 3
1. Order MSA 84-8/South Coon Creek Drive West
m. Traffic Study Resolution/River Crossing
n.
6. Reports of Commissions, Committees, Staff
a. Municipal Police Department/Knight
b. Street Maintenance Proposal/Schrantz
c.
7. Approval of Minutes
8. Approval of Claims
9. Adjournment
~ 01 ANDOVER
M E M 0 RAN 0 U M
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COPIES TO ATTORNEY
FROM: CITY CLERK
DA TE: AUGUST
REFERENCE: AGENDA COMMENTS/AUGUST 7 REGULAR MEETING
Item No. 3 - Aqenda Approval
Item No. 4a - Vacation of Easement/Barnes Rollinq Oaks 2nd Addition
An Easement Encroachment Agreement was approved at the July 17
Meeting to allow a property owner to begin construction on his
home on Lot 4, Block 5, Barnes Rolling Oaks 2nd Addition. The
following day we received calls from the property owner of Lot 5,
Block 5, who is selling his home and the listing agent for Lot 1,
Block 5, who has a buyer interested in the property, but would
also run into problems with building. The Building Inspector has
made on-site inspections of the property in question; and is
recommending that easements per the attached drawings be vacated
on all the lots involved. The proposed easement line on all the
lots in question follows the ridge line of the low drainage land.
A resolution will be prepared granting these easements. Note:
this vacation has come directly to the City Council for the hearing
pursuant to State Statute, in that the Council had already taken
some formal action on a portion of this vacation.
Item 4b - Lot split/So Britton
This item has been tabled from a previous meeting to allow Ms. Britton
time to get soil borings completed in order to have the property
divided in such a manner that both parcels comply with the requirements
of Ordinance No. 8. A resolution will be prepared granting approval
based on the results of the borings.
Item No. 4c - Sketch Plans/L. Carlson
Enclosed please find two proposed plats to be developed by Lary Carlson.
One is approximately 80 acres in the south half of Section 4; and the
other is for approximately 40 acres in the north half of Section 8.
We (Review Committee) have gone over the proposed plats; our comments
are attached. Conceptual approval of the layout is required prior to
them being submitted to the P&Z.
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Agenda Comments
Regular Meeting - 8/7/84
Page 2
Item No. 4d - Sketch Plan/D. Howard
Attached is a proposed sketch plan for the development of approximately
3 acres in Section 33 off Crooked Lake Boulevard. As you can see from
the A.R.C. Review report, several exceptions are required, particularly
on lot depth. Mr. Howard originally went to the p&Z on a variance
request to construct a double home on the most southerly of the two
original parcels (attached are my comments to the P&Z reo this variance).
After reviewing the request, the Planning & Zoning Commission recommended
that Mr. Howard get together with the property owner to the north to
see if the two parcels could be combined and then platted; this sketch
plan is a result of this direction.
Item No. 4e - Final Plat/Kadlec 2nd Addition
Enclosed is the Final Plat of Kadlec 2nd Addition. Also enclosed is
a memo from the City Engineer outlining several contingencies for
items not yet received. Also required is the Quit Claim Deed for
Outlot "A". The variances were covered in the Preliminary Plat
approval. The City Attorney has the abstract and is preparing the
Title Opinion. The City Engineer has also requested today that
the attorney prepare the Quit Claims Deed for Outlot A and the
Easement Agreement across the volk property. Inasmuch as the
Contract for the utility work cannot be awarded until the Final
Plat is approved, I would assume all contingencies will be met
by the time of the meeting.
Item No. 4f - Award Contract/Kadlec 2nd Addítion
If all contingencies of Item No. 4e are met, this Contract can be
awarded per the enclosed Resolution. An easement has not yet been
obtained from the Wallaces', however, the City Attorney feels the
Contract can be awarded at this time without the easement.
Item No. 4q - City Hall Site Development
Members of the Park Commission and the City Engineer are meeting
this evening to review the final plans for this site development.
They will have a full report available for you at the meeting.
Item No. 4h - Acquire Lot 1, Block 1, Hartfiel's Estates
When this Plat was filed in 1968, the Hartfiel's gave the City an
easement for drainage purposes, including ponding, etc. across this
lot, with the notation that the easement would end at such time as
storm sewers are installed. The property was up as Tax Forfeit,
however, it did not sell; we now have the ability to acquire it
again. The lot has been dug out and water does run into it; at the
time sanitary sewer is installed in the area, the lot could be filled
and sold as a building site. For that reason , I am recommending we
acquire it, keep it for drainage until sewer is in, and then sell
it for non-public use. A motion is need to authorize the Mayor and
Clerk to sign the Application for Conveyance.
Agenda Comments
Regular Meeting - 8/7/84
Page 3
Item No. Sa - Kennel License Renewal/J. Bialke
Mr. Bialke is requesting renewal of his kennel license for his property
at 1928- 167th Avenue NW. To-date we have not received any complaints
on the operation.
Item No. Sb - Amendment/Ordinance No. 32-Sanitary Sewers
Amendment/Ordinance NO. 55-Municipal Water
Enclosed are proposed amendments for both utility resolutions. This
is in response to the request by the City Council for the change in
the Sanitary Sewer Ordinance. Inasmuch as the Municipal Water
Ordinance addresses repairs in the same manner as the SS Ordinance,
I have prepared an amendment to that ordinance,as wel~ in order to
keep both policies uniform.
Item No. 5c - Nordeen Tax Exempt Lots
The necessary forms to reconvey the property back to the State in order
that we may again acquire it for non-public use are prepared for those
lots in Nordeen Addition and the one lot in the GI District on Jay St.
A motion is needed to authorize the mayor and clerk to sign this
document.
Item No. 5d - Date P&Z Interviews
Enclosed are applications from three (3) residents. An interview
date should be set for within the next two-weeks.
Item No. 5e - Appoints to Ditch No. 57 Committee
Enclosed are applications from two (2) residents for membership on
the Ditch No. 57 Repair Committee. An ad was run in the Union and
in the Shopper for two weeks. As of this date the Joint Powers
Agreement for this repair has not been approved by the Council.
Mayor Windschitl was going to speak to the Board to secure more
information on this repair.
Item No. Sf - Amend Resolution No. 46/Double Frontage Lot Exception
This amendment is simply a housekeeping matter on the resolution
adopted for the acceptance of the Preliminary Plat of East Round Lake
Estates; the exception for the double frontage lots was omitted.
Item No. 5g - Reduce Bond/Indian Meadows
Enclosed is a memorandum from the City Engineer, covering the
reduction of the escrow security on the streets in the Indian
Meadows Plat. A motion is needed approving a reduction of $6,000,
and authorizing payment to Mr. McLaughlin (New Generation Homes)
for this amount.
Agenda Comments
Regular Meeting - 8/7/84
Page 4
Item No. 5h - Accept Easements/MSA Streets
Almost all easements have not been secured for the construction of
South Coon Creek Drive (West) and 157th Avenue (East) . A resolution
will be prepared accepting these easements.
Item No. 5i - Award MSA Projects
Enclosed is a memorandum from the City Engineer and the bid tabs from
B.R.A. , Inc. A resolution is prepared for acceptance.
Item No. 5j - Final Acceptance/IP83-3, 2, 2A
The City Engineer will review this with you at the meeting. Enclosed
is a letter of recommendation from T.K.D.A., as well as the resolution
of acceptance.
Item No. 5k - Declare Cost/Order ROll/IP83-3, 2, 2A
This is the project for which the temporary bonds were issued, due and
payable 9/86. To secure the lower interest rate, the majority of the
property owners gave us mortgages as security. These will be paid in
full prior to 9/86. Those on which there is not a mortgage will be
financed over a period of fifteen (15) years.
Item No. 51 - Order MSA 84-8/South Coon Creek Drive (West)
Enclosed is a memorandum from the City Engineer covering ordering the
MSA Streets for South Coon Creek Drive (West) . A resolution is
enclosed.
Item No. 5m - Traffic Study Resolution/River Crossinq
This resolution adopted by the Anoka City Council is an off-shoot
from the meeting held with the various City representatives.
Councilman Knight was out-of-town; Jim Schrantz attended the
meeting--his report is enclosed.
Item No. 6a - Police Department Report/M. Kniqht
The Crime Prevention Committee has met; Councilman Knight, Chairman
of the Committee has a brief report on their findings and conclusions
on the formation of a Municipal Police Department.
Item No. 6b - Street Maintenance Proposal/J. Schrantz
Enclosed is a proposal for 1984 Maintenance from the City Engineer.
The report covering the proposal was distributed to you at the last
Regular Meeting.
Item No. 7 - Approval of Minutes
February 21, July 17, July 26.
Enclosures
~ 01 ANDOVER
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - AUGUST 7, 1984
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by
Mayor Jerry Windschitl on August 7, 1984, 7:30 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685
Crosstown Boulevard NW, Anoka, Minnesota.
Councilmen present: Knight, Lachinski, Orttel
Councilman absent: Ell ing
Also present: City Attorney, William G. Hawkins; City Engineer, James
Schrantz; Building Inspector, Dave Almgren; City Clerk/
A. Administrator, P. K. Lindquist; and others
AGENDA APPROVAL
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, to approve the Agenda as published. Motion
carried unanimously.
EASEMENT VACATION/BARNES ROLLING OAKS SECOND ADDITION
Mr. Almgren reported he physically measured where the slopes are on the affected lots
and revised the easement to follow on the high ground.
Cliff Kirkide, 885 146th - stated he was satisfied with the way the easements have been
revised by Mr. Almgren.
Faye Barnes - stated the lots were not filled after the plat was in, and he had no
ldea how the easement lines were originally drawn.
Marge Faber, 14755 Sycamore Street NW - stated they need the change to clear the title
for thelr house. Iheir house lS sitting on the easement as it is now.
Attorney Hawkins advised that legal descriptions be drawn up to be recorded so there
will be no problem with the deeds in the future. Mr. Almgren stated he would write
up the legal descriptions for each lot.
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Knight, introducing a Resolution approving a vacation
of a portion of a drainage easement across Lots 1, 3, 4, and 5 of Block 5 in Barnes
Rolling Oaks Second Addition as presented by the City Clerk with the addition of the
legal descriptions be drawn of the portion of the easements being vacated. (See
Resolution R066-84) Motion carried unanimously.
LOT SPLIT/So BRITTUN
Sylvia Britton stated she didn't get the soil borings back yet, but she measured the
lots herself. She stated there is 5U,5UO square feet above elevation 892 feet.
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Knight, introducing a Resolution approving a Lot split
request of Sylvia Britton to subdivide Plat 65902, Parcel 3700, PIN 023224230001,
contingent upon acceptance of the soil borings being acceptable to the City Engineer.
(See Resolution R067-84) Motion carried unanimously.
SKETCH PLANS/L. CARLSUN
Council first discussed the sketch plan on the 80-acre parcel of Woodland Ridge,
reviewing the comments made in the August 2, 1984, memo of the Andover Review committee.'
Lot 9, Block 1, and Lot 7, Block 4, exit on a thoroughfare, Verdin, which is not
allowed per Ordinance 10. Larry Carlson stated the reason they made Lot 9 the shape
it is is because of the highline and gas easement going across the north of the property,
which totals about 180 feet. And they couldn't squeeze two roads exiting onto Verdin
without having back-to-back frontages on some of the lots. He checked with the
Kegular City Council Meeting
August 7, 19S4 - Minutes
Page 2
(Sketch Plans/L. Carlson, Continued)
County Highway Department, and Mr. Ruud had no problem with both lots exiting onto
Verdin. After discussion, the Council generally agreed to al~ow Lots 9 and 7 to exit
onto Verdin as long as it is agreeable with the County, feeling that may be the most
reasonable way to deal with the easement situation.
Lots 1 and 2, Block 1, don't have 39,000 square feet of buildable land. Mr. Carlson
stated they are aware of the 39,000 square-foot-requirement and will be moving some
dirt around. They will also be doing some soil borings.
Council then reviewed the sketch plan of a 40+-acre plat in the South ~ of the NE~
of Section 8. The Committee proposed 169th Lane align with l69th Lane in the Kadlec
Add it ion. Mr. Carlson had no problem with offsetting the end to accomplish that
alignment.
The Committee also recommended Lot 1, Block 3, and Lot 4, Block 2, use 169th Avenue
as their frontage. Mr. Carlson and the Council were agreeable to that suggestion.
Discussion was then on the configuration of 170th Lane to Quay. It was noted there
is a 7-acre parcel north of 170th Lane that needs to be considered. The sketch plan
proposes a curve up Wuay Street to the west on l70th Lane, meeting the existing 170th
Lane on the western edge of the plat. There is an easement for 170th Lane across
the northern portion of this plat to the east as well.
Mr. Carlson stated if it was agreeable to construct only the portion of 170th Lane from
Wuay west," he would want to have the easement to the east vacated. Council suggested
Quay and 170th Lane be made a T intersection rather than the curve, which would allow
for the constructiol1'of 170th Lane to the east in the future. But because it was not
known what the property owners to the north plan to do with their land, it was generally
felt that the road configuration in this portion of the plat could not be resolved until
the public hearing stage. At that time the input from the property owners to the north
can be used to make a decision.
~KETCH PLAN/D. HOWAR~
Council reviewed the sketch plan of uale Howard for property at 135th Avenue and
Crooked Lake Boulevard. Mr. Howard stated there are two lots to the south, but only
one home is constructed. He is not able to put a through road in but felt the neighbors
would be agreeable to the cul de sac. He preferred keeping the lots above the minimum
lot size rather than putting in six lots. He stated 105.48 feet was taken off Mr.
Temple's property for easement, and he is showing tha t on the northern portion of the
plat as well. Council didn't understand why the easement was so large, directing that
the matter be looked at further.
Mr. Almgren showed a sketch of the plat with the setbacks drawn in, recommending
Lots 1 and 5 exit onto 135th Circle rather than the county road. Council suggested
the western boundary for Lot 5 be moved further west to the center of the cul de sac
radius. Mr. Howard was agreeable to that. He noted that the intent is to put twin
homes on Lots 3 and 4.
Council also agreed that Lots 1 and 5 should exit on 135th, though it may be the
preference of the builder to face the houses on Crooked Lake Boulevard to correspond
with existing structures.
Council also agreed that it would be acceptable to reduce the street easement to 50
feet, though the cul de sac would still need a 120-foot radius.
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Regular City Council Meeting
August 7, 1984 - Minutes
Page 3
FINAL PLAT/KADLEC SECOND ADDITION
Attorney Hawkins noted the title opinion has been done. The Clerk stated the park
dedication and escrow for signs has been received. Mr. Schrantz stated Mrs. Volk
has signed the easement across their property, and M~ Volk is supposed to sign it this
evening. Council was concerned with the jOg shown around the Volk property on the
plat. Attorney Hawkins advised that it is acceptable since the City will be taking
the easement straight across the south 33 feet of the Volk property. But he stated
the development contract must be signed and an escrow of $21,000 deposited. And the
deed must be signed conveying Outlot A to the City.
This item was held until later in the meeting to allow Mr. Kadlec to sign the develop-
ment contract.
ACQUIRE LOT 1, BLOCK 1, HARTFIEL'S ESTATES
MOTION by Urttel, Seconded by Knight, that we approve the application to receive Lot 1,
Block 1, Hartfiel's Estates from the tax forfeiture list and authorize the Mayor and
Clerk to sign the documents. Motion carried unanimously.
KENNEL LICENSE RENEWAL/J. BAILLIE
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, that we approve the renewal of a Kennel
License for J.Baillie at 1928 167th Avenue NW for one year. Motion carried
unanimously.
NORDEEN ADDITION TAX EXEMPT LOTS
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Orttel, that we authorize the Mayor and Clerk to
sign the documents to reconvey properties in the Nordeen Addition back to the State,
and also the one lot in the GI District on Jay Street. Motion carried unanimously.
UATE - P & Z INTERVIEWS
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, that we set Planning and Zoning Commission
interviews for August 14 at 8:30 p.m., and have the City Clerk notify the applicants
of their times. Motion carried unanimously.
CITY HALL SITE DEVELOPMENT
Stuart Kinkade, Park and Kecreation Commission, reviewed the phases of development
proposed by the Park Board for the City Hall park site. (Note August 3, 1984, memo
to the Mayor and City Council outlinirig the phasing of park development through 1986)
Phase II basically consists of extending the west road and parking lot, one soccer
field and two softball fields. Those fields would not be functional until 1986.
They are also proposing seeding the current soccer field and softball field no. 2.
It is estimated it would be $12,200 for ballfield 4. Phases 3 and 4 would include
the picnic area, watering system, lighting one soccer field, etc. Mr. Kinkade stated
the money in the budget has been earmarked for existing neighborhood parks, and all
dedication monies will be used to make the Kelsey Park payments. They dO not have the
money in their budget for the City Hall project.
Council questioned whether the picnic area should be done ahead of ballfield 4, the
feeling being it would be a draw for those using the other facilities. Mr. Prochniak
of the Park tloard stated he has been approached by the Boy Scouts to do some project
in the City, and he has suggested doing the brush work, etc., for the picnic area on
this site. Nothing definite has been worked out. Discussion noted the major work
for the picnic area would first be the clearing of the area. Playground equipment,
picnic tables, shelter, etc., would also be needed. A suggestion was also to contact
some of the service organizations to see if they would be willing to help on this project.
Regular City Council Meeting
August 7, 1984 - Minutes
Page 4
(City Hall Site Development, Continued)
Discussion was on the possibility of lighting some of the fields. Mr. Kinkade stated
Phase 4 calls for lighting the existing soccer field because often times soccer is
played in the fall when lights would be needed. They didn't feel that it would be
necessary to light the ballfields and the cost is a factor. They have found it could
cost about $20,UOO to light just the soccer field. Mr. Prochniak stated they want
to check into getting grant monies for the lighting.
Council noted there would be some funds from the additional State Aids the City will
be receiving, but the exact amount is not known. It was agreed to take bids on the
various parts of the project, suggesting costs be taken for the soccer field and the
road, ballfield 3, the picnic area, and ballfield 4, and to make a determination of
what will be done once the costs are known. The Clerk was also asked to determine if
there are any funds in the Park Board budget that could be used for this project.
MOTION by Orttel, ~econded by Knight, that we authorize the City Engineer to take bids
on the City Hall park site, Items I - 3 as shown on the proposal for completion of the
City Hall site under Phase 2 in such a way as to be able to eliminate those portions
that are not affordab1e at the time the bids are received. Motion carried unanimously.
AMEND RESOLUTION NO. 46/DOUBLE FRONTAGE LOT EXCEPTION
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, introducing a Resolution amending Resolution
No. U46-84, adopted by the City Council on the 19th Day of June, 1984, entitled a
Kesolution approving the Preliminary Plat of East Round Lake Estates as being developed
by A. J. Parent as presented. (See Resolution K046A-84) Motion carried unanimously.
FINAL PLAT/KADLEC SECOND ADDITION, CONTINUED
Mr. Schrantz stated the development contract has now been signed, the easement from
Mr. Wallace has been signed, and Mr. Volk will be signing their easement this evening.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, that we approve the final plat of Kadlec Second
Addition as presented contingent upon receipt of the easement for the Volk property
for 142nd Lane NW. (See Resolution RU68-84) Motion carried unanimously.
AWARD CONTRACT/KADLEC SECOND ADDITION, IP84-7
MuTIUN by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, introduce a Resolution accepting bids and
awardlng contract for the improvement of Project No. 84-7 for watermain, sanitary
sewer, streets in the area of Kadlec Second Addition as prepared, and note that the
three bidders were Clement Schmitz Construction, $108,391.50, HBH Construction, $118,107.25,
Channel Construction, $119,197.75, and that the low bidder being Clement Schmitz Con-
struction be awarded the contract, contingent upon the receipt of the easement on the
Volk property for l42nd Lane. (See Resolution RU69-84) Motion carried unanimously.
AMENDMENT/ORDINANCE 32 - SANITAKY SEWEKS AND ORDINANCE 55 - WATER
MOTION by Knight, ~econded by Orttel, introducing an ordinance amending Ordinance No. 32,
Urdlnance No. 32D, as prepared. Motion carrled unanimously.
MOTION by Orttel, ~econded by Knight, adoption of Urdinance 55D amending Ordinance
No. 55 known as the Municipal Water System Ordinance, adopted by the City Council of
the City of Andover, May 5, 1981. Motion carried unanimously.
REuUCt BOND/INDIAN MEAUOWS
MOTIUN by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, that the City Council reduce the bond from
~7,500 to $1,5UO for a reduction of $6,000 on the Indian Meadows Addition. DISCUSSION:
Mr. Schrantz asked if the Council wants to keep some of the escrow to insure the grading
Regular City Council Meeting
August 7, 1~S4 - Minutes
Page 5
(Reduce Bond/Indian Meadows, Continued)
of the pond along 155th Avenue is done, although this escrow was for streets. The
developer knows that pond is a problem and has stated it will be done, but Mr. Schrantz
stated he is anxious to have that work done before the lots are sold. Mr. Schrantz
didn't think that work was part of the grading plan. Councll agreed to postpone action
on this matter until it is known if the ponding work is a part of the development
contract.
Councilmen Lachinski and urttel wITHDREW the Second and the Motion.
ACCEPT EASEMENTS/MSA STREETS
Mr. ~chrantz stated all easements have been received for 157th Avenue. There are two
that have not yet been signed along South Coon Creek urive because the owners are out
of town. They are not yet all signed for 16lst Avenue, but he didn't think there
WOUld be a problem because nothing is being taken outside the existing easements.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, thatwe accept the street easements for 161st
Avenue and 157th Avenue (Projects 84-1 and 84-3) (See Resolution R070-84) Motlon
carried unanimously.
MOTIONDJr0rttel, Seconded by Lachinski, that we accept easements on South Coon Creek
Urlve. (Project 84-2) (See Resolutlon R07UA-84)
VOTE ON MOTION: YES-Knight, Lachinski, Orttel; PRESENT-Windschtil
Motlon carrled.
AWARU MSA PRUJECTS
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, introducing a Resolutlon accepting bids and
awardlng contract for the improvement of Projects No. 84-1, 84-2, 84-3 for streets on
16lst Avenue, South Coon Creek Urive, and 157th Avenue as presented (See Resolution
R071-84 awardlng contract to Forest Lake Contracting, Inc., in the amount of $606,369.3U)
Motion carried unanimously except for a present vote by Mayor Windschitl on the piece
that affects him.
FINAL ACCEPTANCE/IP83-2, 2A, 3
Discussion noted that Ms. Sonsteby is refusing to dO the work on the road in the park
and the entrance to the park. Mr. ~chrantz stated he has been authorized by the Council
to put the curb and blacktop at the entrance, and he still has to do that. He stated
thlS is part of Shlrley's Addition. Ms. Sonsteby has a development contract for the
improvements, and she had agreed to do the park work herself. She did some of it,
and there are some parts she is refusing to do. ~he is wllling to gravel it but is
not wil ling to fill in the walkway down to the lake which was part of the grading plan
of the project.
Council felt this project needs to be addressed further in the next Agenda item.
MOTIUN by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, introducing a Resolution accepting work and
directing final payment to Orfie and Sons, Inc., and C. S. McCrossan Construction, Inc.,
for Project No. 83-3, 2 and 2A, for watermain, sanitary sewer, streets and storm
drainge ln Northglen Second Addition, Northglen Fourth Addition, Rosella's Addition
and Shirley's Additlon as prepared. (~ee Resolution R072-S4) Motion carried
unanimously.
DECLARE CUST/ORUER ROLL/IP83-2, 2A, 3
D1Scussion was agaln on how to insure that the work on the park in Shirley's Additlon
gets done either by the developer or by the City and assessed back to the development.
Mr. Schrantz estimated another $lu,OUO Should be added to the assessment for the
Kegular City Council Meeting
August 7, 1984 - Minutes
Page 6
(Declare Cost/Urder Roll/IP83-2,2A,3, Continued)
uncompleted work. Attorney Hawkins stated it may be possible to not issue building
permits until the terms of the contract are completed, which would mean completing the
grading according to the grading plan. Attorney Hawkins was directed to research the
development contract on this plat.
MOTION by Urttel, Seconded by Lachinski, introducing a Kesolution declaring cost,
dlrecting preparation of assessment roll and setting date for assessment public
hearing for the improvement of watermain, sanitary sewer, streets, and storm drainage
for Project 83,3, 2, and 2A as prepared. (See Kesolution R073-84, hearing to be
he 1 d on September 4, 1984) Motion carried unanimously.
ORDeR MSA 84-8/S0UTH COON CREEK uRIVE WEST
MuTIUN by Knight, Seconded by urttel, introducing a Resolution ordering the Improvement
of bituminous streets, IP84-8, for South Coon Creek Drive from the bridge west to Round
Lake Boulevard and directing preparation of final plans and specifications. (See
Resoluti on K074-84) DI SCUSSION:
Len Christenson, South Coon Creek Drive - stated he didn't think there was a formal
publlC hearing on the surfacing of this road. It was talked about at many meetings,
but no specific meeting was ever held to discuss the road itself to allow him to
present arguments against it and to attempt to persuade his neighbors that it is not
in their best interest to have the road. At the first meeting to discuss the road for
all of South Coon Creek Drive, only three neighbors from the west end were present
because the staff had told them the meeting wasn't really for their end of the road.
And every meeting since then has always dealt only with water and sewer improvements.
Mr. Schrantz stated the hearlng for all the MSA projects was held on March 28. Also,
the petition slgned by the residents was for water and sewer only if an MSA street
came through.
Mrs. Christenson - thought it was unfair of the City to promise 3U-foot setbacKs to
the residents. She felt the road should go down the center of the road and take equal
amounts from all people, and then see how many resldents are for it.
Mr. Christenson - again stated he felt there should have been an opportunity for him
to present a different point of view than what Mr. Schrantz did to the nelghbors to
the south. Counci Iman Lachinskl asKed if he might be able to persuade some neighbors
against this project at thlS point.
Mr. Christenson - stated he was not sure because the neighborhood has been divided at
thlS pOlnt. He fe1t the hearlng should have' occurred before. He felt the neighborhood
has a lot of neighbors very interested in what is gOlng on on the south side of the
road and a lot of silent majority people on the north side. Councilman Lachinskl
understood the residents only wanted water and sewer if the blacktop went in.
Mr. Christenson - stated that is the way one resident wrote the petition. Those signing
the petitlon were told it is simply a study. But there was never a hearing on the road.
He thought if there had been an open discussion back in March on the road, he might
have been able to persuade some residents to pay the $4,00U rather than have this an
MSA street. He had no problem with the width of the road but with the volume of
traffi c such a street wi 11 have. That would have changed if the residents objected and
the road was shifted south through the Kadlec Addition. At thlS point he lS not
arguing to have a pUbllC hearlng, not seeing how anything can be changed now.
Mr. Christenson - statec they moved there 12 years ago to have their children attend
Anoka' High School, to live on a low-volume road wlth area for the children to play,
and to have enough property to have a garden area. The first two of these reasons are
gone. tlut there may be an opportunity to maintain the third reason if the road can be
Regular Clty council Meeting
August 7, 19S4 - Minutes
Page 7
(Order MSA 84-8/South Coon Creek Drive West, Continued)
moved as far south as possible so he can get a small garden on his corner. He stated
there is no other place on his lot for a garden. He asked that the road be moved over
as far as possible and still maintain some reasonable distance from his neighbor to
the south.
Mr. Christenson - also stated that as proposed, the speed lane, that going from east
to west, is gOlng to be closer to his house than to the neighbor's across the street.
He estimated it would be 56 teet from his house and 60 teet from the neighbor's. He
also asked where a north/south street would be proposed on the property to his east.
Council noted that the City has no proposal to place a north/south street in that area.
Any street that would be developed would occur when the property is platted.
There was then a very lengthy discusslon with the Christensons about the location of
the road, how far it will be from the Christenson's house and garage, hOW far lt will
be from the Seidenkranz property to the south, and what can be done to ease the negative
effect of the project to the Christenson property. Mr. Schrantz stated the proposal
is to have the curb 44 feet from the Seidenkranz property. It will be about 7U feet
from the Christenson house to the curb, but the road wil I bend and will cut the corner
by their garden.
Council recessed while the Christensons and Mr. Schrantz reviewed the plan and measure-
ments of the road to the houses. 9:24; reconvene at 9:42 p.m.
Mr. Schrantz stated the fast lane will be about bO feet from the Seidenkranz house.
Seidenkranz is closer to the centerline of the road than Christenson's garage is to
the curb. The Christenson garage is back from the existing right of way 56 feet.
The proposal wou Id place the curb on the south side at the edge of the existing roadway,
so Seidenkranz will not be gaining any lawn area. They are buildlng a 32-foot street
where a 20-foot street exists and the extra blacktop is being placed on the north side
of the road. Mr. Schrantz estimated the distance trom the curb to the edge ot the house
at 68 to 70 feet. But he noted the exact distances will be known when the final
plans and specifications are done.
Mr. Christenson - stated it would be acceptable to him if the road is moved over as
tar south as possible and still have an acceptable setback to Mr. Seidenkranz and have
a s at'e road. There were several suggestions for the engineers to consider that would
ease the impact of the road such as moving the corner further east and making a
sharper curve through there, keeping the road in the center of the 66-foot easement
past tne bulk of the Christenson property but starting to break for the curve at
Seidenkranz's driveway, or offset the road further south.
Mr. Christenson - stated if what has been said about the distance of the driving lane
to hlS house lS correct, then the noise problem won't be nearly as much as he thought
it was.
Mrs. Christenson - asked where the fire hydrant will be. Also, will the power lines
be buried; and if so, where will the green boxes be placed.
Mr. Christenson - noted if the power lines are not buried, they wi 11 need to be moved
further north, and it will be a considerable hindrance for them. They wou ld not even
be able to play ball in their front yard because of the power lines. Mr. Schrantz
was not sure where the fire hydrant was going. The water lines are going down the
south side; the sewer line is going down the center. He talked to the electrlc company
about burying the lines, and they didn't know if they would. If they WOUld, they
thought the lines would be buried on the south side. He did not know where the green
boxes would be placed. Council preference was the electric lines be buried and asked
that the Engineer pursue that further.
Regular City Councll Meetlng
August 7, 1~84 - Minutes
Page 8
(Order MSA 84-8/South Coon Creek Drive West, Continued)
Mrs. Chrlstenson - stated there is a steep drop from their property to the road and
asked how sOll erosion is going to be prevented once the road is constructed. She
did not want the whlte pine in that location disturbed. Mr. Schrantz thought it
would be sloped back, but that will be addressed in the final design. It will be a
problem trying to get the driveways right.
Mrs. Christenson - asked why the City didn't consider running the western portion of
South Coon Creek Drive behind the houses on the south slde of the existing road and
avoid the entire problem of coming through the existing development. Mr. ~chrantz
stated the project went into the petition to get the MSA road after sewer and water
was installed.
Mrs. Chrlstenson - again complained that there will not be bicycle paths along this
thoroughtare, her concern being for the safety of the children in the neighborhood.
She also felt the Clty lS doing the nelghborhood a dlshonor by putting the road
through there.
It was agreed that the engineers wil I work wlth the Chr1stensons to get tne road
aligned to everyone's satisfaction.
Motion carried unanimously.
APPUINTMENTS TO DITCH NO. 57 REPAIR COMMITTEE
Uiscussion noted the two lssues with the Coon Creek Watershed, that being the
justification for cleaning Dltch 57 and the assessment procedure proposed by the
Watershed for regional ponding. It was generally agreed that no appointment should
be made now to the citizens' committee for the cleaning of Ditch 57 given the Clty'S
opposition to that project at this time. Councll noted they have received no
justification for the proposal and was also concerned about the apparent high costs
of the project, what are the benefits and who is being benefitted, the effect it has
on the resldents, and whether there is a fair distribution of benefits. Councll also
questioned the assessment area as proposed by the watershed, especially any area to
the west of Round Lake Boulevard.
Mayor Windschitl also stated he is trying to arrange a meeting with the Watershed Board
to discuss this item and the proposed assessment policy for future regional ponding.
Council discussion agaln took the position the proposal for funding the regional
ponding concept lS unfair to Andover. And lt was again suggested that possibly the
City should just abide by the existing comprehensive Storm Drainage Plan and not put
water into the Watershed system, but hold the water with on-site ponding.
Attorney Hawkins also noted he could find nothing in the Watershed Statutes or in the
Municipal Plannlng Act that requires the City to get Watershed approval if there will
be no drainage into the system.
No action was taken on these items. Mayor Windschitl stated he will inform the Council
of the date when the Watershed Board could meet with the Councll on these issues.
TRAFFIC STUDy RE~OLUTION/RIV~R CRQS~ING
There was concern that the Kesolution not imply that it is an invitation for the
Metropolitan Council to take over traffic. It was agreed that witn the deletion of
the third paragraph, it would restrict the involvement of the Metropolitan Council
to this particular traffic study.
MOT10N by Lachinski, Seconded by Knlght, to adopt a Resolution simi liar to the city of
Anoka Resolution regarding the need for preliminary assessment to ldentify major issues
relative to traffic problems in Northwest Hennepin and Northwest AnoKa County areas,
and elimlnate the third paragraph. (~ee Kesolution R075-84) Motion carried
unanimously.
Regular city Council Meetlng
August 7, 1984 - Minutes
Page g
MUNICIPAL POLICE DEPARTMENT/KNIGHT
Councilman Knight reported he and Councilman Lachinski met with Bruce Lindberg from
the Minneapolis force and Jeff Arneson, a former policeman. Mr. Lindberg estimated
$200,000 for start-up costs as well as continuing cost for a 24-hour, 7-days-a-week
coverage by a municipal police force. Mr. Arneson used Ramsey's figures, which is
$320,000 a year. COuncilman Knight ;suggested before even considering the implementation
of a municipal police department that the Committee should take a close look at what
is happening in the City in terms of crimes and coverage.
Councilman Lachinski stated they want to first establish the need for a City department
by going over the reports to determine whether or not there is an acceptable level of
service in the Clty by the present coverage. He tho~ght the information could be
graphed and monltored closely to determine exactly what is taking place in the City
in terms of police protectlon.
Councilman Knight also stated the opinion of the police offers was for full-time
coverage, a minimum of six officers plus a full or part-time chief would be needed,
along wlth two cars. This lS a significant increase from the existing coverage.
Mayor Windschitl stated he WOUld be wil ling to provide the monthly reports he gets from
the Sheriff's Department for the last year or longer. He will also contact the County
to see if they could provide summaries of the reports. If not, possibly some of the
summer help could help to summarize the reports.
Jack McElvy - wondered lf the suggestion of a chief is in addition to the six officers.
He felt that in the beginnlng the chief could also be taking a shift. He has talked
with businesses and other neighbors and has been tOld the average response from the
Sherlff's Department is between 15 and 3U minutes, most of the time approximately 2u
minutes, which is not acceptable to him. He stated with a municipal department, an
officer should be able to respond anywhere in the city in not more than 8 minutes.
Another advantage of a munlcipal department is better communlty relations. He thought
there would be very few people whO woula obJect to ~3 or $4 per household for a
municipal pOlice department. He requested he be notlfied when this item wil I be
discussed agaln.
counci Iman Knlght also reported Melanie DeLuca, Community ~chool Coordinator, lS
making good progress on setting up the Crlme Watch Program and should be ready to
begin neighborhood meetings in September.
SEVENTH AvENUE BRIDGE POSTING
Councilman Knight told of the drowning off the Seventh Avenue bridqe on Sunday,
recommending the bridge be posted. He also questioned why the county park there lS
not open, which has meant that numerous cars parK along the road causing a hazard.
The ClerK was directed to flnd out why the county parK is not open. Mayor Windschitl
stated the Fire Chief is requesting the signlng of tne bridge.
~TREET MAINTENANCE PROPOSAL/SCHRANTZ
Mr. Schrantz requested approval for the sealcoating and shouldering projects for 1984.
He recommended sealcoating the City Hall parking lot and Njordmark/Dale tstates ana
uSlng the remainlng money for shouldering various problem areas in the City.
Council discussed setting a policy for shouldering, the question being whether it
should be considered a maintenance project to be funded by the general fund or whether
lt is something that should be assessed bacK to the development. The merits of each
policy was discussed, but no decisIon was made at this time. It was thought that
possibly the problem is with the rural street deslgn, suggesting that be looked at to
reduce the shouldering problem that is occurring.
Regular Clty Lounci 1 Meeting
August 7, 1~84 - Minutes
Page 10
(~treet Maintenance Proposal/Schrantz, Contlnued)
MOTIuN by Lachinski, Seconded by Orttel, that we authorize the City Engineer to take
quotations for sealcoatlng the City Hall parking lot and Njordmark Estates. Mot i on
carrled unanimouslY.
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded oy Orttel, that we approve Claims 8167 through 8245
ln the amount of $287,643.85. Motlon carried unanimously.
MuTION Dy Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, to adjourn. Motlon carried unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 11:37 p.m.
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Marc lla A. Peach
Recor . g Secretary