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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSP September 26, 1983 ~ 01 ANDOVER SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING - SEPTEMBER 26, 1983 MINUTES A Special Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Jerry Windschitl on September 26, 1983, 3:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW for the purpose of discussing the well drilling restrictions within the advisory area of Andover, municipal water service to that area, the cooperative agreement on the landfill, and well samplings in the area. Councilmen present: Elling, Knight, Lachinski, Orttel Councilmen absent: None Also present: City Engineer, James Schrantz; City Building Inspector, David Almgren; TKDA Representatives, John Davidson and Stephen Hartley; Bonestroo, Rosene, Anderlik representatives, Bob Schunicht and Otto Bpnestroo; District 50 State Representative, Ernest Larsen; Anoka County Commissioner, Natalie Haas; Anoka County representatives, Colleen Herrmann and Robert Hutchinson; MPCA representatives, Mark Simonett, Susan Brustman, and Douglas Day; Minnesota Department of Health representatives, Ron Thompson and Jim Nye; Representatives of E. H. Renner & Sons, Roger Renner; and Andover residents, Roman Przezdziecki and Merlyn R. Prochniak Mr. Nye - explained that there are hazardous materials in place at the landfill in Andover, that it has been documented that to some extent contaminates exist below the landfill, and that there have been some low-level volital organic hydrocarbons found in some general marketing wells. Last year the Health Department published a drillers advisory book developed with the Pollution Control Agency and some County people for a short-and long-term protection of the public health for private wells. Ground water movement in the area is basically to the south and west, and the leachate should theoretically be moving towards the advisory area. There have been some contaminates found in the sand. The geology is complex, stating the till layers may be discontinuous, and there may be valleys in which we lls may have penetrated some of the "confining" 1 ayers . Some monitoring wells have shown positive for some organic hydrocarbons. They are concerned with the construction of any wells so that the water supply will provide a potable supply for the user now and will not aggravate ground water contamina- tion problems while it is being drilled or for the long term. They are also concerned that the wells may affect the pool of contaminated or potentially contaminated water. They have a number of other advisories in other areas of the State which have been specifically delinèated for contaminated areas, some of which have stricter requirements than in the Andover area. Mr. Nye - continued that they have been asked to grant a variance or to retract the adv1 sory area. Basically the Health Department is empowered by Legislative mandate to.protect the public health. The Attorney General's office has told them they cannot absolve their responsibility and allow a homeowner to accept a risk which they feel is excess i ve. They are concerned with any long-term monitoring which might occur on any type of system put in under a variance. They are also concerned with the short term if that individual is drinking a contaminated water supply and it is not so determined until later. He felt the protection they are requiring here is reasonable. The issue of city water has also been approached, but they have nothing positive in hand showing that municipal services will be extended, again their concern being the consumption by the individual during the period of time the well is in use. There is a limited amount of information that shows there is a potential for a problem, and they feel additional wells are not a good risk at this time. They are waiting for further information from the EPA as to the extent and magnitude, direction of flow, etc., after which they can realistically re-evaluate what they have. They have seen no additional information that would indicate that the advisory should be retracted, so they are staying with the advisory area. Special City Council Meeting September 26, 1983 - Minutes Page 2 Councilman Orttel - was the original advisory based on some technical information? How was that determined? Mr. Thompson - stated the original advisory was based on two considerations. The hydrogeological conditions based on Coon Creek because of the discharge of ground water to it, Hanson Boulevard, and 131st. The well construction standards were based on the concern with the till Îayer. This was done not with a great deal of information but based on past experience. Since then there has been some evidence showing some contamination has in fact gone down into the till, and there might possibly be a good cause to expand the advisory. Councilman Orttel - are you saying the size of the advisory area was determined based on your feel1ng that there is a direct relationship between the shallow water discharge into Coon Creek and the deeper water levels? But it has not been determined that there is a connection between the shallow water and the deeper aquifers. Mr. Thompson - stated there are levels of 20 to 100 parts per million of volital Organ1C hydrocarbons picked up in the creek. He agreed it has not been determined there is a connection between the shallow and deeper aquifers, but they are finding evidence of contaminates below the landfill and have extrapolated what they have found. This procedure has been used in four other advisory areas. Mr. Simonett - stated there is significant contaminate levels in the upper sand. Ihere 1S basically three hydrogeological units in the drift. The lowest is the lower sand aquifer, which the least is known about and is used as a source of domestic supp ly. Ground water flow in the lower aquifer is probably southwest, but that cannot be determined for sure. The problem is there are contaminates in the till which do not belong there unless water is moving up or down through the till. There may be a breakthrough into the lower aquifers which they think they have indications might be occurring now. The result is the contaminates could be spread in the lower sand aquifer which is now used as a source of potable supply. The upper sand level is probably 30 to 60 feet deep. The till is down to 90 feet on the average. The lower sand is subject to variations in the bedrock surface. There is at least 150 feet in the bedrock surface. Though there is an interpretation of the qualitative factors of the data, there is cause for concern, though they cannot make a definite statement that the lower sand is contaminated. Technically, they have found contaminates on the north side of the creek in one well, but they have n:otyet been able to determine if this means it is migrating past the creek and will continue to do so. In answering whether or not septic systems could be influencing the wells, Mr. Simonett stated he didn't know how long it would take anything to get from the lower surface to the sand and whether or not the septic systems would have the large percentage of industrial-type wastes that they are monitoring for. Mr. Day(?) - at the lower sand levels that they are monitoring they have found very low levels of several compounds. But without further information, they don't know if it is significant or not. The wells in Red Oaks are in the lower sand aquifer. They think, but are not sure, that they are finding traces in all three of the wells located in the north and southwest areas of the landfill. The southern wells in the landfill were only sampled once this past June; and, unfortunately, they have no other information in which to compare it to. They are classified as bedrock wells, but the wells were finished in a fractured unit, they are not sure. It may be the same aquifer as the lower sand. They are 105 or 125 feet deep. He also explained the complexities with the geology of the various layers and the complicated problems encountered when dealing with organics. Mayor Windschitl - asked the situation with the Cooperative Agreement. Mr. Day stated the PCA has initiated two actions with the EPA involving the Waste D1sposal site. One action was their request for Federal assistance in investigating the hazardous waste pit to make the determination what is the best thing that can be done Special City Council Meeting September 26, 1983 - Minutes Page 3 with it. That investigation will be a Federal lead, not a cooperative agreement, and would include, if necessary, looking at an alternative water supply for the City of Andover. The other action they are hoping for approval for is a cooperative agreement to study the rest of the landfill, where the State would select the contractor for investigating the landfill. They expect the Federal lead to Degin some time in the middle of October. The timetable for the cooperative agreement is somewhat uncertain, but probably will be some time in November. The cooper at i ve agreement is signed and went out September 15 from their office. He had two copies of the agreement and stated he would provide one to the Mayor. Mayor Windschitl - stated within that agreement was to be approximately $60,000 for a water study. Mr. Day - stated there is a request into the Federal Government for their assistance 1nvestigating the hazardous waste pit, and included in that investi- gation, if it is determined there is a risk to the water supplies in the area, is an alternative water supply study that would be done for the City of Andover. That does not require any sign-offs from their Board, but is a Federal lead. Gouncilman Lachinski - asked the timetable for the water study. Mr. Day - stated that wou Id be done the same time as the investigation of the hazardous waste pit, and they have told the EPA they would like the entire investigation done within three months. It has been taken out of the cooperative agreement and included within the investigation of the hazardous waste pit. Commissioner Haas - asked if that is an effort to move up the timetable. Mr. Day stated 1t was. Councilman Elling - stated the County and PCA had to license the hazardous waste pit, Wh1Ch is the only licensed one in the. State. At that time, did the County or State do an EIS or ground water study before issuing the license? Mr. Day - stated in comparison to what they expect now, no. This~ is 13 years later. Commissioner Haas - asked if the State Health Department or MPCA at this time is prepared to help the City of Andover if they have a need for municipal water. Or wi 11 you be prepared, when you get the data being talked about, to tell the City of Andover it should have a municipal water supply. Mr. Nye (?) - stated it depends on what the answer shows. Hopefully there will be a d1finit1ve answer one way or the other. If the evidence points to a real serious problem, the recommendation may still not be for the need of a municipal supply. The Health Department may recommend a potable long-term supply for the residents, and it may be accomplished by cluster wells, residual wells, by connecting to other water service, or other alternatives. Mayor Windschitl - stated the problem is Mr. Przezdziecki is sitting with a $6,000 well that 1S bad. To redrill that well means another $8,000 or better. He asked how many people in the City of Andover can afford that for a wellJ On any improvements, the State laws says the City can only assess the economic value to the property. Thi s is beyond the capability to do that. Mr. Nye - stated they understand the cost implications, but they have to look at it trom the public health implications. There are parts of the State where that type of well is the norm. Councilman Lachinski - stated they were lead to believe that two pump tests must be done as a part of the study for the need of a municipal supply. And they have been told those would only be one or two thousand dollars apiece. He felt that would provide a lot of the conclusions on which to determine the advisory area, etc. Mr. Day - clarified they are talking much more than that, that installation of deeper wells on site would be done before the pump tests are undertaken. Special City Council Meeting September 26, 1983 - Minutes Page 4 Councilman Lachinski - stated they were told by Hickok that it would be only $1,000 to $2,000 to do the tests using existing wells to determine what kind of flow there is between aquifers. Councilman Elling - stated at one time the pump tests were included in the agreement. Was it the EPA that wanted that dropped, stating he felt that should be done. Mr. Day - stated that is not going to be dropped. He stated additional information would be of value but questioned whether a $2,000 pump test is going to answer all the questions. Before proceeding with it, he thought the Health Department and PCA would be more than willing to review the proposal with the City and offer comments as to the scope of the work. Councilman Orttel - stated if the wells the Health Department is requiring is necessary. and Mr. Przezdziecki cannot have a well like his neighbors, then it is already too late and city water is needed. And then he wouldn't need that kind of a well. Ifitisso dangerous that the City cannot have people putting in wells similiar to all the others, why are only a handful of people required to put in real expensive wells when it is already too late. What is being called an advisory area certainly is more than that; it is mandated. Councilman Lachinski - asked if that is the real issue or is it because the Health Department doesn't want any more holes punched in the ground. Mr. Nye (1) - stated yes, clearly any hole drilled in the ground has the potential for 1mpacting the ground water. Also, they are not presupposing that a municipal water supply will ever come into the area. They don't know that information. They have to go under the assumption that municipal water is not going into the area. They also cannot extend a risk to additional individuals. Councilman Orttel - stated the fact is if they do have ground water pollution, they W1 I I have a C1ty water system. Somehow it has to be funded, etc. He thought they should take that into account in their consideration, noting the request for municipal water in the area already by a developer. If the City goes on record saying city water will be installed if a problem occurs, he asked if that will have any impact on their decision. Mr. Nye (1) - stated quite frankly he didn't know, not knowing if the present Council can recommend or mandate what a future Council will do. He thought, yes, it would be considered, but he didn't know what weight it would have. Councilman Orttel - stated it is frustrating that the City is beginning to commit dollars for a water study for that area but at the same time some people are being required to spend quite a sum of money. If the danger is as eminent as is being proposed, it is a terrible waste of dollars. Councilman Lachinski - also asked where is the benefit to the property owner if he has a new well and then has to pay for city water. Mr. Nye - stated the benefit to the homeowner is whatever public health value. Council- man Lachinski stated the City cannot assess someone who doesn't benefit from it at all. Mayor W1ndschitl - asked is it the feeling of the State that given the contamination found that it 1S just a matter of time before a municipal system would be installed1 If that's the case, just tell the City that. Mr. Day - stated they don't have a lot of information to go on and are not making any extrapolations at this point. Commissioner Haas - stated supposing at some point down the road it is determined that Andover needs a municipal water supply, where does that leave this gentleman (Mr. Przezdziecki) who has borne the extra costs for a well. She understood the County requested a variance, asking if the Health Department is now denying that variance. Mr. Nye - stated if he (meaning Mr. Przezdziecki) were to apply for a variance, he would have that legal right and they will provide a response. Commissioner Haas - stated they have said they do not have sufficient evidence that there is a problem, so why can't he be suhig, right now. Special City Council Meeting September 26, 1983 - Minutes Page 5 Mr. Nye (1) - stated the detailed information is nonexistent; it is a potential. V1rtually all well-drilling regulations are a potential. They have seen that the cased well will last considerably longer than a normal well. Councilman Lachinski - retorted but not if municipal water comes through. He felt there 1S enough evidence of potential contamination within the City that for the small amount of money, the pump tests should be done to make the necessary determinations to justify their positions. Commissioner Haas - questioned the agreement and investigation of the hazardous waste p1t. Mr. Day - stated they have not received any written verification from the Federal Government as to the exact date they will begin. Any money that is expended for this is Federal, and there is no matching funds necessary. It is budgeted for 1983. He stated if the City or County wants to speed things up and uses some dollars now, they would not be reimbursable. Mayor Windschitl - understood that the City of Mankato will be reimbursed for funds expended even though a cooperative agreement has not yet been signed. Mr. Da~ (1) - stated he is the lead person for the problem in that area, and to his knowle ge no federal funds have been expended to the City of Mankato, and there is no agreement in place. They have requested that the Federal Government undertake an investigation. Mankato's well may be impacted, but that is not yet known and that is the part of their request for the investigation. Mayor Windschitl - asked the procedure for the investigation. Mr. Day - stated it is not done at all by the State. On the Federal lead, it will be the1r own contractor from Region 5 in Chicago. That contractor has already been selected. They have told the MPCA the investigation will begin the middle of October; but they must first draw up some plans. The important thing is for them to put the wells in and then undertake the tests. The contractor is C. H. Tool and Hill, located out of Milwaukee and Chicago. He talked with Washington Îast week, and they have specified October 15. Mr. Schrantz - asked those from the Health Department if they want all those holes pumped down to the deeper aquifers, to the only good source that may be available to the City, by requiring individual residents to do so now. Mr. Nye - stated the advisory has gone out to well drillers known to be working in the area. The wells are not down to the Hinckley but to the Galesville, which is separated from the Hinckley by another confining layer, the Eau Claire. They are concerned with the drilling of the wells within the advisory in that they be contacted so it can be watched. He didn't think the Health Department has the personnel to inspect every well being dug, but they will inspect those in question. Mr. Schrantz - stated it may be creating more roots for further contamination to the deeper aquifers. Mr. Nye - didn't feel that way, given proper construction. Mr. Simonett (1) - stated there certainly is flow between the layers up and down all the way down to the Hinckley throughout the whole twin cities area. Predominant travel is horizontally within an aquifer, and vertical is somewhat retarded, but it goes between all aquifers. Ma or Windschitl - asked what is the reason for the pump test if that. is already known. r. lmone t . - stated it provides hydrologic parameters for aquifers, determining w at wou e t e response to aquifers in water level pumping stresses. When discussing the pump tests, members of the MPCA stated they did not know what kind of information could be provided for a pump test costing only $2,000, suggesting the information would be sketchy or incomplete. Their intent would be to drill new wells for the pump tests they have in mind. Special City Council Meeting September 26, 1983 - Minutes Page 6 Councilman Knight - asked if it is determined that municipal water is needed, will the State be tell1ng the City where the well would be located. Mr. Day - stated they would, also stating that a feasibility study at this point would be premature unti I the pump tests are done. But if the City wants to go ahead with their own study, it is their prerogative. But he is doing the best he can to get the investigation through right now. Mayor Windschitl - stated there is an obligation to the residents to do something, not1ng Mr. Prochniak lives next door to a well that has been found to be contaminated. Councilman Lachinski - stated the main thing is to keep from duplicating the costs. If the State will do the tests, how can the City put pressure on them to make sure that gets done right away? Mr. Day - stated if he thought it was necessary at this time that the City Council and State Legislators contact the Federal Government to move things along faster, he would suggest it. But at this point, he didn't think that is necessary. They already have lined up the contractor and they have already given the date of October 15. Councilman Lachinski - asked if he thought the City would see the results and information trom that invest1gation within three months. Mr. Day - said yes. Councilman Orttel - asked if it is likely that from the information found that the adV1sory area would be lifted. Mr. Nye (?~ - stated from it the advisory probably would be modified or changed; but he thoug t as long as the chemicals are around, there will always be an advisory area of some sort. Councilman Drttel - stated the problem is requiring people replacing wells to do some- thing which is not economically feasible. The other thing is as this thing expands, the homes in the area are becoming affected. So what happens, as much as they don't want to see it, is a municipal water system becomes the most attractive alternative. And the City has to proceed on that so there is at least a plan. But now the City is being told to hold back on it. So the City is back to square one and is being told to stay there, which is troublesome because the statistics are indicating a problem in that area. Mr. Nye - didn't think the State is advising not to proceed with the feasibility study tor a municipal system. There are all types of components of the system which could be done now; the well may be a variable as to location and depth. Given the known variables, the engineering firm could provide alternatives and cost estimates. Councilman Orttel - stated it seems the most immediate reason for having a municipal system has nothing to do with the pollution but more with the advisory, which is unfortunate to a lot of people. When there is a problem, the City has an obligation, is mandated, to protect the health and welfare of the residents, feeling it is overkill to be requiring the drilling restrictions at this time. Councilman Elling - asked where would the City be allowed to drill a municipal well if 1t was needed r1ght now. Mr. Nye (?) - said the first choice would be somewhere outside the designated advisory area. They could modify that depending upon the construction. They have modified it in certain cases, noting St. Louis Park as an example. So, yes, it may be that a well could be constructed within the advisory area with special construction techniques. Discussion was on what has been suggested may be a fault in the geology of Andover. State officials stated they were not aware of it. Mr. Renner noted his experience with the varying depths of wells in the area and the various depths at which the aquifers have been found. Special City Council Meeting September 26, 1983 - Minutes Page 7 Discussion was then on the problem with Mr. Przezdziecki's well, with Mr. Renner explaining their original design, and the background of the first hole before it collapsed because there wasn't enough of the Franconian aquifer present. They will not be able to finish the well in that particular area. They may not be able to finish a well within the Galesville, and it mayor may not be a source of water. They may have to go down to the underlying shale zone in the Mt. Simon. He did not know what direction to take or what the total cost would ultimately be. Mr. Nye (1)- stated part of the problem is lack of communication. Originally it was reported as the Galesville formation; but the survey tells him they are still in the Franconian. Ms. Herrmann - stated that the Health Department is saying there is sufficient information to requ1re safeguards for well drilling within the advisory area of Andover, but the PCA is taking a more cautious view and is saying there is not sufficient information at this time to justify going ahead with a water feasibility for the City. She felt that something must be reconciled between the Departments. Mr. Day - stated they are taking a more cautious view because there is very little 1ntormation to go on. But the Health Department is also taking a cautious view, because the information they do have indicates the need for a well advisory. He didn't know if they are ever in the position of saying that municipal water is needed; that is to be determined by a consulting firm. They give their information to the Health Department. But they cannot tell an individual not to drink their water; they can only make a recommendation. The final say is with the Health Department. Ms. Herrmann - asked if the State could provide temporary potable water to this 1ndividual until the Federal investigation is completed. Mr. Day - stated he could bring that matter up in his Department. They are providing temporary water supplies in Isanti to those with known contaminated wells. In this situation, it does not have a known contamination but only a potential for contamination. Mr. Nye - stated if Mr. Przezdziecki could hold off until the investigation is completed and it shows that the aquifer isn't a problem and it won't become contaminated by putting more wells into it, they can change or revise their advisory. Discussion continued on various suggestions that might be acceptable to the State on getting potable water to Mr. Przezdziecki through the winter months, such as a temporary well, a screen in the current well, or temporary hookup to another well. Mr. Renner - explained to screen the current well, he would drill out 20 feet of the current well and put in a two-inch screen into the Franconian. It is already grouted in place. He could not guarantee that the well could be finished, but he felt it was worth the gamble. Mr. Nye (1) - stated they would have no problem with a screened well if it is in the Franconian. Councilman Elling - asked if Mr. Prochniak were to drill a well tomorrow, would the Health Department expand the advisory to that area. Mr. Nye - stated they would have to seriously consider drilling the well like the others in the advisory area because they are finding contamination in the till north of the creek. They are giving consideration to expanding the advisory but are trying to hold off until the investigation is done and additional information is received. Mayor Windschitl - asked if the County and City were in agreement and were committed to putt1ng 1n a municiapl system, would that get rid of the Roman Przezdziecki problem, stating it is totally unreasonable to expect someone to put in a $8,000 to $10,000 well. Mr. N~e - appreciated the great amount of cost involved, but looked at it as a very good 1nvestment compared to other purchases. Chances are the Health Department would not rescind the advisory even if the County and City committed to a municipal system. But if the City seriously wants to pursue it, it could be run through the Commissioner of Health and their attorney, and that decision would be made at that level, not the staff level. It has not been done in the past. Special City Council Meeting September 26, 1983 - Minutes Page 8 Councilman Orttel - felt that investment for a well is a terrible investment, feeling 1f 1t is needed, then it is too late, the ground is polluted and city water should be put in within a short period of time. Mr. Nae P) ~. stated they are dealing with the issue at hand; and when dealing with an in iV1dual well, they need to provide all the information and advice available to provide that individual with potable water. Councilman Orttel - stated it is more than advice, it is a mandate. Mr. Nye - agreed. Mr. Hutchinson - stated the cost of the type of well for Mr. Przezdziecki is not good 1n terms of the value of this piece of property compared to others in the area, having to invest $8,000 to $10,000 for a new well now and then $4,000 to $6,000 for a municipal supply in the near future. He asked if it were possible to allow a shallow well to be put in for the purposes of laundry and bathing but to use bottled water as their drinking water. He stated that would be acceptable from the County standpoint, and it would buy Mr. Przezdziecki time to get through the winter without having to leave the property. Mr. Nhe (1) - stated if he wants to pursue that, they would be happy to address it. But t ey typically have not gone that route in the past. It is· one thing for the homeowner to indicate he is aware of the responsibility, but the system is typically used by others as well. And there is the question of wheter it would be a legally binding document. They are also concerned with nonpotable contact uses, as typically the most effective way to absorb contaminates into the body is through inhalation, ingestion, and absorption. Historically the Health Department has not granted variances for those types of uses, but they would be willing to discuss it further. In this case, with the existing well which failed for some physical reason, it may be able to be rectified with a screen, and they would go along with that solution. Mr. Przezdziecki and Mr. Renner - agreed it may be worth trying to make the existing wel I work and to screen 1t. Discussion was on Ms. Herrmann's comments on the inconsistencies she saw between the Health Department and MPCA as to what is being said about the potable water supply in the advisory area and the criteria for establishing that area. Ms. Herrmann - stated she would be willing to discuss this item with the Attorney General's off1ce as to who has the responsibility of saying yes there is a problem or no there isn't. Mr. Nye - stated they too would like to see something more definite, but didn't think their positions were exceedingly inconsistent. They are taking a conservative approach now, and there is a margin of safety built into the regulations. The dispute is how large this margin is. What they are saying is there is a potential in the upper sand for contaminates presently or in the future. There is sufficient cause for the advisory until additional information is received to refute or support that contention. Discussion ayain noted that three deep wells on the landfill site are indicating very low levels of volital organics, the north one and two southwestern ones, that the investigation is scheduled to begin October 15, and at the end of three months the State should be able to indicate the type of problem there is. Mr. Thompson - stated if someone wants to drill a well immediately outside the advisory area,rèlating to the area north of the advisory, they would seriously consider expanding that advisory even at this moment; but they are not going to formally extend that area today. The advisory regulations also only apply to those drilling new wells. They have no problem with putting in a new screen in an existing well. Mr. Day - stated he will discuss the recourse available to residents to recover damages and the issue of providing bottled water with the staff and get an answer back by the end of the week. Special City Council Meeting September 26, 1983 - Minutes Page g DIscussion was also at what point would the Health Department shut down private wells. Mr. Thompson - stated they advise individuals if anything is detectable. The point of action is when the carcinogens detected surpass the established health standard, and at that point the Statutes would give the Commissioner of Health the authority to order that individual to correct it. Meeting was adjourned at approximately 5:10 p.m. Respectfully submitted, ~~~ - ~l ~ Recording Secretary ~ 01 ANDOVER SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING - SEPTEMBER 26, 1983 MINUTES A Special Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Jerry Windschitl un September 26, 1983, 5:34 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, for the purpose of discussing the proposed 1984 General Operating Budget and the water feasibility study. Councilmen present: Elling, Knight, Lachinski, Orttel Councilmen absent: None Also present: City Engineer, James Schrantz, and Building Inspector, David Almgren 1984 BUDGET Council discussion was on the maximum increase a majority of the Council would agree to for the 1984 mill levy. It was generally felt a five percent increase could be justified because of the increased service being provided, the City's growth, and inflation. MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, that we direct the City Clerk to prepare a Resolution setting the mill levy at the dollar equivalent of 1.75 mill rate increase from 1983. Motion carried unanimously. It was also noted the Clerk will translate that to the dollar amount which will be voted on in Resolution form at the October 4 meeting. There was also a brief discussion on the carry-over amount from year to year which is not reflected in the General Fund. WATER FEASIBILITY STUDY Because of the facts brought out at the meeting with MPCA and the State Health Department officials this afternoon, the Council generally agreed to wait until the PCA testing is completed,which should be in three months. Council also expressed concern over the findings in the samplings of the deep wells in the southwestern portion of the landfill, as that area is extremely close to the residential wells in the Red Oaks deve lopment. Discussion was also that the Health Department and PCA would need to approve where a new municipal well could be sited, suggesting possibly the most cost-effective route at this time may be to develop the existing well to service the Crosstown/Bunker Lake Bou levard area. No formal action was taken at this time. MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Elling, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 5:51 p.m. Respectfully submitted, "" ~0-~~ .. i Marc la A. Peach Record 1 Secretary (