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REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING - APRIL 5, 1983
AGENDA
1. Call to Order - 7:30 P.M.
2. Resident Forum
3. Agenda Approval
4 . Presentation of Awards
a. Diana Miller
b. Pierre Mros
c. Rodney Wangrud
5. Community Development Block Grant - JoAnn Wright/Anoka County
6. Discussion Items
a. Easement/Osmon
b. Lot Split/Boyum
c. Andover West-Phase II
d. 138th Avenue/Pond
e. Junkyard License - Andover Auto Parts
f. Amendment/Water Ordinance
g. Uniform Fire Standards Ordinance
h. Basement Requirements Discussion
i. Landfill Discussion
j. Revision of Rural Street Standards, Intersection Detail
* k. Mitigation/Compensation-Landfills
7 . Non-Discussion Items
a. Amendment/Ordinance No. 8, No. 10 - Lot Sizes
b. Coon Creek Watershed District, Chapter 509 Committees
* c. Kelsey Park
8. Reports of Commissions, Committees, Staff
a. Volunteer Fire Department
b.
9. Approval of Minutes
10. Approval of Claims
11. Adjournment
* Not on published agenda.
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- CITY 01 ANDOVER
M E M 0 RAN 0 U M
TO: MAYOR AND COUNCIL
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COPIES TO: ATTORNEY, STAFF
FROM: CITY CLERK/A. ADM.
DATE: MARCH 31 , 1983
REFERENCE: AGENDA INFORMATION - APRIL 5, 1983
Item No. 3 - Agenda Approval
Please add Item No. 6k (Mitigation/Compensation-Landfills) and
Item No. 7c (Kelsey Park) .
Item No. 4 - Presentation of Awards
Pursuant to your request, Awards have been prepared for presentation
to Ms. Diana Miller, Mr. Pierre Mros and Mr. Rodney Wangrud for their
emergency action in attempting to save the life of Gary Bishop.
Item No. 5 - Community Development Block Grant
JoAnn Wright, Adminiistrator of the Anoka County Community Development
Block Grant Program (CDBG) will be here to answer any questions you may
have on the uses of these funds. Last week I forwarded you a packet
covering some of the provisions from the Federal Register, as well as
a listing of the programs being used by other Anoka County cities.
Item No. 6a - Easement/Osmon
Under separate cover you were forwarded a memo and background information
on the request by the Osmon's to accept an easement to their property.
A decision on the type of action to be taken should be made as soon as
possible.
Item No. 6b - Lot Split/Boyum
Attached is the Planning and Zoning Commission recommendation for approval
of the request of the Boyums to split off a 2.5-acre parcel from a 40-acre
parcel. Both parcels meet all requirement of the Lot Split Ordinance. A
resolution will be prepared granting approval of the request.
Item No. 6c - Andover West/Phase II
The Developer will be submitting the Plat in final form as soon as road
construction is completed. Prior to such construction a ~reliminary"
final approval is requested. The only changes made from the preliminary
plat already accepted is that of street width, i.e., from 66' to 60'.
Although there have been no ordinances changes, the City has been
Agenda Information
Apr il 5, 1983
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Item No. 6c - Andover West/Phase II (continued)
allowing the 60' street width on streets such as those in this Plat.
Item No. 6d - 138th Avenue Pond
Owners of property upon which a pond is located have been contacted
and will be in attendance at the meeting. This is the pond in which
a child drowned on March 12. The City Engineer will have fill quantities,
estimated costs, and other information available.
Item No. 6e - Junkyard License/Andover Auto Parts
Mr. & Mrs. Pears have applied for licensing on this yard. All bonds
and insurances are in order. You will recall the 1982 License was
revoked for ordinance violations, however, since that time, the Pears
have either done the work to meet the requirements, or have contracted
to have it done by May 1 of this year. Attorney Hawkins has been in
contact with the attorney representing the Pears; he will have a
report on their agreements/actions.
Item No. 6f - Amendment/Water Ordinance
Attached is the proposed amendment to the Water Ordinance. This
amendment provides for requirements in welding water pipes. A
motion is needed for approval.
Item No. 6q - Uniform Fire Standards Ordinance
Enclosed is a draft copy of the proposed ordinance. Provisions have
been changed to correspond to those items discussed with the Council
at previous meetings. It is now basically in conformance with other
City ordinances.
Item No. 6h - Basement Requirements/Discussion
Several Councilmen have eluded to having a provision in the Zoning
Ordinance which would require a full/partial basement under all
residential structures constructed henceforth in the City. Before
the Planning and Zoning Commission wraps up their revision work
with Barton-Ashman, direction should be given to them on this item.
Item No. 6i - Landfill Discussion
This will just include a recap on any new information received from
either MPCA or Anoka County since the Informational Meeting on
March 29.
Item No. 6j - Revision of Rural Street Standards/Intersection Detail
The City Engineer is requesting approval on new plates he has prepared
covering the rural standards already approved by the Council. He would
also like to discuss a change in the radius requirements for intersections.
Agenda Information
AprilS, 1983
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Item No. 6k - Mitigation/Compensation (Landfills)
This item covers landfills required under State mandate for all
Counties in Minnesota. Councilman Elling serves on the Committee
of Metropolitan Council reviewing this item. Attached is the
report on which he must respond. He would like to discuss this with
the entire Council.
Item No. 7a - Amendment/Ordinance No. 8, No. 10/Lot Sizes
This amendment has been conceptually approved by the Council at a
Joint Meeting with the Planning and Zoning Commission. The Commission
has now held the necessary public hearings and is recommending approval.
The amendment will reduce the R-4 lot sizes to 80' minimum width and
11,400 square foot area on all single family residential lots. Two-
family homes will require 1.5 times that of a single family.
Item No. 7b - Coon Creek Watershed District/Committees
Attached is a memorandum from the Coon Creek Watershed District. This
memo covers the requirements of the District under Chapter 509. They
are asking for representatives from each City to serve on the Committee
to pursue these requirements. Inasmuch as Jim Schrantz has worked
extensively on this program, it would be my recommendation that he
represent the City of Andover.
Item No. 7c - Kelsey Park
Attorney Hawkins has advised that as a result of legislation, it will be
necessary for the City to proceed through eminent domain action, the
acquistion of the property owned by Mayor Windschitl. He will have
the necessary resolutions prepared; and will review the Law with you.
Item No. 8 - Volunteer Fire Department
The Volunteer Fire Department has made some revisions in their By-Laws
and would like to discuss it with the City Council. Copies are
attached.
Item No. 9 - Approval of Minutes
March 1 , 8, 15.
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~ 01 ANDOVER
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - APRIL 5, 1983
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by
Mayor Jerry Windschitl on April 5, 1983, 7:30 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685
Crosstown Boulevard NW, Anoka, Minnesota.
Councilmen present: Elling, Knight, Lachinski, Orttel
Councilman absent: None
Also present: City Attorney, William G. Hawkins; City Engineer, James
Schrantz; City Clerk/A. Administrator, P. K. Lindquist;
and others
RESIDENT FORUM
Diana Miller - stated she wou)d like to see a playground in the area of l38th Avenue,
east of Crosstown Boulevard. In the first five buildings alone along 138th there
are 23 children ages 15 to l~ years. All total, she estimated there are 50 children
on the block and there is no place for them to play. Council agreed to refer the
matter to the Park Board for their consideration and recommendation.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, that we refer the question of developing a
park on the l38th Avenue area to the Park Board for their consideration. t10t i on
carried unanimously.
AGENDA APPROVAL
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Orttel, to approve the Agenda as published with the
following additions: 5a, Well Drilling Requirements; Item 6k, Mitigation/Compensa-
tion - Landfills;; and Item No. 7c, Kelsey Park. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Elling, that we suspend the rules. Motion carried
unan lmous ly.
PRESENTATION OF AWARDS
Mayor Windschitl presented awards to Ms. Diana Miller and Mr. Pierre Mrso for their
emergency action in attempting to save the life of Gary Bishop. An award was also
prepared for Rodney Wangrud, but he was not present to receive it.
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT - ANOKA COUNTY
Ms. JoAnn Wright, Administrator of Anoka County Community Development Block Grant
Program, discussed various options open to the city for the use of their CDBG funds
for 1983. Ms. Wright stated the things to be concerned with are who is going to
benefit -- it must benefit lower-income people, those who fall within the Section 8
guidelines. Or the funds can be used to clean up slum and blight, which is limited
to areas declared by State law to be blighted, reading that definition to the council.
She also gave examples of projects that would be eligible and explained they are now
in a transition period between the old regulations that have governed the program and
the new ones that have been submitted to review by Congress.
Ms. Wright then responded to questions:of the Council as to the eligibility of various
projects in Andover. She stated the funds could not be used for the development of a
municipal water system which may be needed because of the hal¥"doú's\ waste situation
unless Andover were a low-income city, which it is not. . Hàu1)¡lg off the hazardous
waste would be a possibility. When considering <pªfkèdeveloprr1èrìt, the radius of the low
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lncome area depends on the si ze of the park. A \ot park woù lobe about one acre in
size and would encompass a local area within walk,ing distanèe. When considering a
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neighborhood park of about three to five acres inc£ize, it would encompass a radius
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April 5, 1983 - Minutes
Page 2
(CDBG - Anoka County, Continued)
of 1/4 to 1/2 miles. In order to do one of those projects, the City would have to
prove that 51 percent of the people benefitted meet the low-income requirement by
doing a survey for the area. A spring cleanup for the City would not be eligible for
CDBG funds, as that is considered a maintenance function. There would be no problem
with the City purchasing one of the junkyards to in turn sell the property at a low
price to attract commercial development, because that is considered cleaning up slum
and blight and economic development. The funds would also be eligible for the establish-
ment of an economic development committee to promote commercial development in the
City, but jobs must be created or the costs revert to a city expense.
Improvements for the handicapped can be done on virtually any building, private or
public, though private residences or rental units must benefit the low income. There
is a need for such units in the county. Ms. Wright stated she would check further
whether the fact that an individual is handicapped automatically qualifies or if the
income level of that individual needs to qualify. If the City were to purchase a
building and convert it for handicap use, the income generated would become program
income and would go back into the Block Grant funds. But it would still be credited
to Andover for further use. She also stated that developing the unusable lots in the
Nordeen Addition to be sold to the low income would be a permittable use. The on ly
problem with that is that people who would qualify to purchase the lots probably could
not afford to build a home on the lot even if the lot is free, and there is no assistance
for housing available. Assisting residents with shallow wells that are contaminated to
obtain an adequate water supply would be eligible as long as the residents are low
income.
Ms. Wright stated they are going before the County Board with preliminary applications
next Tuesday. Council agreed to add this item to the Agenda for further discussion.
WELL DRILLING RGQUIREMENTS
Tom Renner gave an informative talk on the methods of well drilling, the various layers
of sand and bedrock in this area and the effects of a well on the surrounding area,
demonstrating these thigns on the blackboard. He explained a lot of the wells in this
area are made in the sand and gravel formation, and their experience has been that any
contamination is limited to the materials above the first clay barrier.
He also explained that in the area designated by the State Health Department for
special well construction, basically Andover Boulevard to the north, Coon Creek to the
west, 131st to the south, and Hanson Boulevard to the east, was done so not because
contamination was found in the deeper wells of 80 to 100 feet or deeper, but because
PCA did not have the time to do a complete study and testing.-'It was his opinion that
there is nothing wrong with the regular rotary-method of well construction for residential
wells, and it is considerably cheaper. He explained the difference between the rotary-
method of drilling a well, which costs between $2,300 and $2,600, and the extra require-
ments now put on by the Health Department for well drilling in a portion of Andover,
which increases the cost to approximately $4,200. It was his suggestion that when
developing a municipal water system, a number of smaller wells be drilled rather than
one 1 arge we 11 .
Mr. Renner also added that he is on the Minnesota Waste Management Board and has
traveled allover the country, which has been an enlightening experience for him. He
stated they have not placed any hazardous or toxic waste landfills in the metropolitan
area, except for western Carver County because of the bedrodk and permeable materials.
But they do have a number of processing sites in the area. He stated the hazardous and
toxic waste problem is minute compared to the problems with sanitary landfills, just on
the volume generated; and he stated he has spent some time trying to convince the
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April 5, 1983 - Minutes
Page 3
(Well Drilling Requirements, Continued)
Metropolitan Waste Board to take out the proposed site at Bunker Hills, but was
unsuccessful. But with the additional requirements and regulations being placed on
sanitary landfills, which in turn adds to the expense of their operation and to the
generators, he is seeing alternative methods of waste disposal being proposed and
developed. He did not think Anoka County is a good location for a sanitary landfill
because there is too much water. Landfills should go on dry property, preferably in
clay beds, but unfortunately Minnesota doesn't have a lot of it.
LOT SPLIT/BOYUM
Planning Commission Chairperson d'Arcy Bosell reviewed the Commission's recommendation
to approve the lot split requested by the Boyums to split off a 2.5-acre parcel from
a 40-acre parcel.
MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Lachinski, entering a Resolution that the City Council
approve the lot split of the Boyums as prepared. (See Resolution R018-83) Motion
carried unanimously.
ANDOVER WEST/PHASE II
Coun~il uis~us~ion wa~ thdt 6u-foot streets are acceptable, but there was concern as
to what the street width change would do to the front measurements, radii, etc.,
especially on cul de sacs. Mr. Schrantz was directed to convey those concerns to
the developer, that with those changes the requirements of the ordinance must still
be met.
138TH AVENUE/POND
The following property owners affected were present: Gilbert Menkveld, Box 547, Anoka,
owns a lot on Crosstown Boulevard; Ken Tendra, 15725 Sycamore Street; and the company
of Tri-R's, owner of the six-plex on 138th.
Mayor Windschitl explained the purpose of the meeting is to work out a way of alleviating
the situation with the pond. The City may be able to help in providing some fill from
projects, but it is prevented by law from making any type of improvement on private
property.
Mr. Menkveld explained the pond was dug out and the dirt was used to fill the land
where the duplexes are, so the pond is quite deep, estimating it to be at least 12 feet
deep.
Council discussion with members of the audience was on the various suggestions. It
was noted that even filling in the area there would still be water because the area is
the storm water drainage area for Red Oaks, that filling in an area would get some
distance between the housing units and the water, and that there is a steep hill in
the back of the rental units down to the water which creates a dangerous situation.
One woman felt the boy who drowned slipped on the hill, hit his head, and lost conscious-
ness before landing in the water. Mr. Schrantz thought the water flowed from Northwoods
into that ponding area. Several Councilmen felt it was an overflow pipe from the
pond to Coon Creek Mr. Menkveld stated about 15 years ago there was a drain completed
to Coon Creek where Jerry Green now has his house to drain this area, noting the area
was farmed at one time. But the tile was broke and the drain closed when Jerry Green
built his house. He thought it would be ideal of that drain could be reinstituted.
One gentleman stated since the last meeting the level of the pond has increased about
one foot, feeling the water is coming into that area from somewhere. He explained
the portion of the marsh.just behind the rental units deepens, gradually, but the main
part is quite deep.
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April 5, 1983 - Minutes
Page 4
(138th Avenue/Pond, Continued)
It was suggested that the park plan conceptually proposed during the Red Oaks/North-
woods street projects be found. Mr. Schrantz stated he has not been able to find
any type of park plan for that area. Another suggestion was to start filling in the
pond with excess fill from road projects, assuming that will not create a problem
for the ponding. Residents stated the area is never competely dry. Mr. Menkveld
stated he doesn't need any fill on his property because it is totally out of the
water. But he would be able to get as much dump materials as they want for nothing,
but it is cracked cement, etc.
Council suggested as a temporary solution that a fence be brought across the back
yards of the rental units to prevent children from getting to the water. And if the
area is to be filled, it should be the responsibility of the property owners, not the
City. Discussion with those present was on the boundaries of the private property
and that of the City, on the residents' concern about the steep embankment and placing
a fence so that children won't fall down the bank and into the water, on the request
for "Chi ldren at Play" signs on the street because of the "overpopulation" of children
and their only place to play being on the street, on the request to lower the level of
the pond by draining it to the creek or a river so that a park could be made in the
area, and on the sense of urgency about this matter by the residents because of the
recent drowning and the rumors of two other previous incidents with the pond.
Council and those present also reviewed the aerial maps showing the size and location
of the pond, with some saying there is much more water than what is shown on the map.
Council recessed to allow the Engineer to review the plans for Red Oaks and Northwoods
to determine which way the water flows in the culvert across Crosstown Boulevard.
Recess at 9:12; reconvene at 9:30 p.m.
Mayor Windschitl stated the maps on file at the city do not indicate which way the
water is flowing, but tomorrow the City staff will check further with the engineering
firm to get an answer.
MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Lachinski, that the City Council request the six adjacent
property owners as shown on tonight's exhibit to install a fence of adequate size to
prevent access to the ponding area, this covered under Ordinance 8, 8.19, Public
Nuisances, and report back to Jim (Schrantz) within a week as to some proposal.
DISCUSSION: Mr. Menkveld asked why the fence couldn't be placed along the side property
line to 138th instead of directly west to Crosstown Boulevard. Then it would not
affect his property. Councilman Elling stated his intent is to give latitude to the
property owners involved, that the intent is to prevent access to the pond by the
children, and that the type of fence would be left to the option of the property owners
but should be adequate to keep the children out. The first thrust would be to keep out
the smaller children. He did not know whether the six-plex should be included, feeling
the matter should be left to the engineer's discretion in cooperation with the property
owners, as long as it accomplishes the intent to keep the children away from the water.
Motion carried unanimously.
Further discussion noted if something is not done within a week, the matter will
be placed on the next Council Agenda. Mr. Schrantz was also directed to look into
placing "Children Playing" and speed limit signs along that road. Later in the meeting
the owners of the six-plex asked how the motion affects their property. It was agreed
Mr. Schrantz would meet with them on the site to make a determination as to where the
fence should be located.
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April 5, 1983 - Minutes
Page 5
EASEMENT/OSMON
The Clerk explained the City originally issued the building permit incorrectly, and
it was not discovered until the house was built. Their first concern was to legalize
their lot to abut a pUblic road or to obtain a variance. The owner of the easement
will not sell the property abutting 167th because it would land lock his other 35 acres.
The Osmons have the easement, but it is not a City easement which is required by
ordinance. 167th is a dirt road that stops at the section line. The City occasionally
maintains to the property line.
Council discussion was that if the easement is desired, it should be brought up to a
gravel standard with a turnaround on the end. Ms. Lindquist stated the Osmon's do not
want to bring it up to standard because it was the City's error. She stated the City
has the option of putting in the road and assessing it or granting a variance to legalize
the lot to correct the City's mistake. It was also noted this parcel is only 1/4 mile
from the proposed Hanson, and 167th would be a natural extension to abut Hanson
Boulevard. So it was suggested that possibly an easement would be desirable all the
way across to the eastside of the five-acre lot. There is also the possibility of
acquiring the easement across the whole parcel but not to construct the road.
Council directed the Engineer to review the matter further and to make a recommendation
at the next Council meeting.
AMENDMENT/WATER ORDINANCE
Mr. Schrantz reviewed the changes to the water ordinance, the concern being connecting
welders to the watermain to thaw out the service. The proposal is not to allow it by
private individuals, and to allow the City to do it only in an amergency after appro-
priate safeguards have been taken, making sure the electrical system is not grounded
to the water system. He stated all electrical systems should be grounded separately
and not to the water system. Councilman Elling disagreed, stating the National Electrical
Code requires grounding the water meter on the water service. The problem is when the
welders are put on the water system, there is no way of knowing what is going to happen.
Council generally agreed that the City should not be allowed to use welders to thaw
out the service either to prevent any possible liabilities and because there are other
methods of thawing out the service.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Elling, that we adopt Ordinance 55B as presented with the
exception of the last clause in the last paragraph starting with "except", deleting
that section. Motion carried unanimously.
BASEMENT REQUIREMENTS DISCUSSION
Discussion was on the pros and cons of requiring a full or partial basement under a
house rather than a floating slab and on the merits of requiring a two-car garage for all
new house construction, these decisions,tothen be incorporated into the new revisions
of the ordinances. Building Inspector Dave Almgren explained a floating slab is
allowable according to the building code if a soils engineer can determine that the
soils will hold the floating foundation. If that is not proved, then frost footings
are required on slab-on-grade homes.
Councilman Orttel had no problem with requiring a two-car garage except in lar.ge apartment
complexes where there are a lot of single people residing. But he was opposed to
requiring basements, feeling the housing trend is not to have basements and that concrete
or other matter is required for solar or energy efficient homes. He had no problem
requiring the footings for slab-on-grade homes.
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April 5, 1983 - Minutes
Page 6
(Basement Requirements Discussion, Continued)
Mayor Windschitl fàvoredrequiring a basement or a minimum of permanent footings under
a slab. He also favored the double-garage requirement, a minimum of 20x22 feet. He
didn't feel that would be a significant hardship even on the reduced lot size in the
R-4 district.
Mr. Almgren suggested if slab-on-grade homes are going to be allowed, that an extra
100 square feet of floor space be required to accommodate the heating apparatus room.
The Council generally agreed.
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Knight, to refer to the Planning and Zoning Commission
for their consideration the idea of requiring a two-car garage for single-family homes.
Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Orttel, that the Planning and Zoning Commission
conslder increasing the square footage requirements of residential dwellings when no
basement is used or to consider the requirement of the basement. DISCUSSION:
continued on whether or not footings should be required on slab homes, on whether or
not basements should be required, or to follow the building code and allow slab-on
grade homes without footings if a soils engineer can determine that the soils will
hold the floating foundation. Mr. Almgren stated there has been no slab houses without
footings in the City to date. Ordinance 8S was referenced that all residential
buildings shall have a permanent foundation. It was Attorney Hawkin's opinion that
Ordinance 8 would be modified as a zoning change rather than a change to the Building
Code in Ordinance 19. If the building code allows slab homes without footings, it is
a construction requirement, and the City does not have the authority to modify or be
more restrictive than the building code. He didn't feel the City could require footings
on slab homes since the code allows it. He stated there would oe no problem with the
City requiring a basement under a residential dwelling. Motion carried unanimously.
LANDFILL DISCUSSION
Ms. Lindquist stated Mr. Hutchinson from the County called stating they have checked
additional wells, and the results have been negative. They also ran ten separate tests
along Coon Creek at 200-foot intervals, and it appears the pollution is not coming from
the entire landfill but only from the west side of it, not necessarily the pit. They
are saying 200 feet upstream or downstream shows contamination, 400 feet upstream or
downstream it is cleaner, 600 feet upstream or downstream is cleaner yet. Mr. Hutchinson
will be sending a letter to the Council on this matter.
Councilman Elling and Mayor Windschitl stated they have been talking with officials
from the FHA. Councilman Elling stated the Director of Housing at the FHA has stated
they are not interested in insuring any loans in Andover. But they are not taking that
approach with homes in Coon Rapids. Councilman Elling was told the FHA is getting their
information from the PCA, specifically Mike Kanner. He also talked with officials at
the VA who stated they are not taking that position.
MayorWindschitl also expressed concern over the problem this is causing for the City.
He stated he is going to try to have some real estate people at the next Hazardous
Waste meeting to discuss this further because this is affecting all of Andover, noting
a loan turned down by the FHA on a house over in Barnes Addition supposedly because of
its proximity to the landfill.
Councilman Elling stated 80 to 85 percent of the loans in the City are written by FHA
or VA; and if they would stop insuring loans for Andover, it would mean an approximate
5 to 10 percent drop in property values. Councilman Orttel suggested this information
be put in writing, disbelieving that FHA is refusing to insure loans in Andover.
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April 5, 1983 - Minutes
Page 7
(Landfill Discussion, Continued)
In discussing this further, it was agreed the City should request PCA to inform the
FHA that because of the special well construction in the area around the landfill now
required by the State Health Department and because no contamination has been found
in the deep residential wells, there is no reason why the FHA should not be insuring
mortgages in the City of Andover.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Elling, that we direct the City Clerk to get a letter
wrltten to the PCA requesting them to send a letter to Bill Middelton of the FHA to
clarify the contaminated situation out here. Motion carried unanimously. It was also
agreed a statement should be received from the FHA as to the status of home financing
in the City.
UNIFORM FIRE STANDARDS ORDINANCE
Fire Chief Frank Stone, Assistant Fire Chief Bill Bush, and Fire Marshall Tom Reichert
were present. Mr. ReichertoPPèË~ig~e changes since it was last brought before the
- Council. He also noted a·.· <.: the copy before the Council, Page 1, the first
Section, the eighth line down should state "Section 4" not Section 7. The discussion
last time it was before the Council was the use and display of resin-bearing trees
in the R-l area. That has been clarified to pertain to hotels and apartments.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, that we approve the draft copy of the ordinance,
number to be assigned, called an Ordinance adopting the Uniform Fire Code and Uniform
Fire Code Standards, subscribing regulations concerning conditions hazardous to life
and property for fire explosion, etc., as presented by the Fire Department. Motion
carried unanimously.
AVFD - BY-LAWS
Chief Stone recommended the by-laws be changed to reduce the probationary period to
six months for those fire fighters rejoining the Department, Section 5, Page 6.
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Elling, that we approve the revised by-laws of the
constltution of the Andover Volunteer Fire Department, Anoka County, Minnesota, as
presented by the Fire Department. Motion carried unanimously.
AVFD - REPORT
Chief Stone reported that as of last Saturday, Ron Kellar is no longer on the Fire
Department due to missing three meetings with no excuse and his explaining to the
Department his lack of interest. Mr. Kellar will submit his resignation.
Chief Stone also reported that the Department has voted the approval of two locations
for the fire stations, those being on the corner of Crosstown Boulevard and Bunker Lake
Boulevard and on the corner of County Road 20 and County Road 7. Mayor Windschitl
noted Good Value has indicated a ~i~~~~~n~~~ è~ ~?nate land for a fire station on
Crosstown and Bunker in lieu of/ß r i ~ n Northglen II. There was some question
as to whether the ordinance would allow the donation of land for a fire station in
lieu of parkland. Attorney Hawkins advised that is acceptable if the owners are willing
to do so. Chief Stone stated he needs to review the size of the fire station before
making a recommendation as to the amount of land needed in that area. He wi 11 get
that figure to the Mayor within the next few days.
Mr. Bush asked if the Department could get an acre of park property on County Roads 20
and 7 for a fire station. Discussion was the original owner would need to agree to a
fee transfer, and the Mayor expressed a willingness to talk with the owner about this
matter.
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Assistant Chief Bush also asked if the Attorney could write to the manufacturer of the
new fire truck chasis in an attempt to get the construction completed. The chasis was
supposed to be completed the 9th of March, and Ford has not even given a completion
date for it. Council directed the Attorney to see what could be done.
REVISION OF RURAL STREET STANDARDS, INTERSECTION DETAIL
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Orttel, to adopt the revised rural street standard
as presented by the City Engineer. (See Resolution R019-83) DISCUSSION: wu 00
whether or not a development agreement should be required on all projects as suggested
by Mr. Schrantz's memo. Mr. Schrantz explained in the Andover West project they are
not using the typical street section he sent them, feeling a development agreement
would alleviate those types of problems by requiring the contractor to meet with the
City Engineer prior to beginning any construction. He wants to be involved prior to
the actual work taking place by the developer. Council discussion was that Mr. Schrantz
does have the authority to require the contractors to meet the City standards, as
the street designs are to be submitted to the engineer at the platting stage. Council
also felt that the developers should be made to understand that if the City's standards
are not met, the streets will not be accepted. It was noted this matter is not part
of the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Orttel, that we approve the intersection detail as
presented by the City Engineer for rural street sections. (See Resolution R020-83)
Motion carried unanimously.
MITIGATION/COMPENSATION - LANDFILLS
Councilman Elling explained public hearings on this matter will be held at the
Metropolitan Council. He is looking for input from the other Councilmembers, keeping
in mind they are talking about new landfills with double-leachate liners. There is
also some discussion on making it retroactive to some of the older landfills. The
proposal was done by the cities and proposes compensation for the cities. He suggested
this be discussed further at some meeting when more time is available.
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS
Discussion was on how the City should use its 1983 allocation of CDBG funds. It was
felt that the 138th Avenue area would qualify for the development of a park for that
neighborhood, thinking a part of the property next to the six-plex may be able to be
developed. It was suggested that would cost approximately $5,000 and should be the
first priority. A suggestion for the remaining allocation was to acquire a junkyard
along Bunker Lake Boulevard for restoration for the purpose of attracting redevelop-
ment, though it was felt that may take more than one year's allotment. More specific
cost figures would need to be determined. And the third suggestion was to upgrade the
city-owned lots in Nordeen Addition to be made available for low-income families.
MOTION by Knight, Seconded by Lachinski, that we prioritize the Block Grant money and
conslder putting in a small park as priority one in the area around 138th and request
the eligibility survey; priority 2 being possible purchase of junkyards for the purpose
·of attracting redevelppment; and upgrading lots in the Nordeen Addition to make them
buildable for resale to the low income as the third priority. Motion carried
unanimously.
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AMENDMENT/ORDINANCES NO.8, NO. 10 - LOT SIZES
MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Orttel, that we adopt the amendment to Ordinance No.8
and 10 as proposed. (The amendment reduces the R-4 lot sizes to 80-foot minimum width
and 11,400 square-foot area on all single family residential lots. Two-family homes
will require 1.5 times that of a single family. Front-yard setback is 35 feet.)
Motion carried unanimously.
COON CREEK WATERSHED DISTRICT, CHAPTER 509 COMMITTEES
Mayor Windschitl stated those who went to the meeting and listened to what Environmental
Services did came away questioning what is going on. He didn't think they are any
closer to getting :something tangible to solve the entire watershed comprehensive plan.
He felt there were some things proposed that to a growing community would be sheer
folly. The cities that are already developed wouldn't be paying into it. He felt it
is a watershed problem that everyone should be assessed for. The proposal would cost
the developer as much as it would cost to construct and maintain his own ponding, and
the developer would not have the option to create his own pond. The Mayor wasn't sure
how much of the City's problem has been resolved, that is the capacity with the creek
and what they are going to allow Andover to do. Council briefly discussed the matter
but took no action on it.
KELSEY PARK
(Because Mayor Windschitl is directly affected by the project, he stepped down to the
audience, and Acting Mayor Ken Orttel presided over this portion of the meeting.)
Attorney Hawkins reported there is a total of approximately 62 acres that the Park
Commission has decided to purchase. The City has received the LAWCON grant funds
of $43,550. He met with the owners of the 54.3 acres, Programmed Land. An appraisal
was done on the property 1\ years ago for $98,OOO. With a five percent increase, the
owner has agreed to sell the land for $105,000 cash, which amounts to almost $2,000 an
acre. He didn't discuss any terms with the owenr to purchase it over a period of
time. The Clerk noted that with the LAWCON funds and the monies in the Park Commission
account, the City would have approximately $85,000 for the project. And of that amount,
$10,000 is allocated for the City Hall site. There was then a lengthy discussion as to
what couse of action should be taken at this point. It was noted that of the 54.3
acres, 39.? acres are high and 14.6 acres are low which lie directly adjacent to Round
Lake.
Attorney Hawkins stated the other parcel is owned by Mayor Windschitl and was appraised
at $9,920 l~ years ago. Under the conflict of interest law, the City cannot purchase
that property directly from the Mayor but must go through the eminent domain procedure,
which will amount to some additional expense. Mayor Windschitl stated the property
is approximately eight acres. He explained the parcel set aside from his plat is the
rectangle, and he provided a strip of land from the street to that parcel. However,
he stated that strip of land is not included in the purchase for Kelsey Park, as he
would instead attach it to one of the lots. He also explained that the intent of the
Park Commission with this entire park is to protect the land near Round Lake and to
keep it in its natural environment.
Council reviewed the park as a whole if these parcels were purchased, the accesses to
the area, and the reasonableness of the proposal compared to the purchase price of other
property in the area. The question of funding the project and financing was discussed.
It was suggested approximately $15,000 be set aside for the acquisition of Mayor
Windschitl's property and that approximately $60,000 could be offered to Programmed
land with a three-year contract for the remainder. It was then questioned how the City
would finance the three-year contract, noting a general obligation bond for this type
of project would require a general election.
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The actual acres involved were questioned, particularly regarding what mark was used
to determine acreage along the lake and how much of it is usable. Attorney Hawkins
stated the engineer's report at the time of the appraisal indicates of the low land,
14 acres lies directly adjacent to Round Lake, suggesting a field survey be conducted
to determine if any of that acreage should be considered part of Round Lake. Mr.
Schrantz stated he could put the soils overlay on the aerial map, which would make it
easier to determine what is swamp and what is part of the lake.
Discussion returned to the financing. A down payment of $20,000 of City money could
be put toward the purchase, which is less than the required 50 percent matching of
the grant, though Ms. Lindquist stated the City's matching funds can be spread over
a three-year period. If the remaining $45,000 were put on a contract, it would also
involve additional interest. Deliberation continued on the actual acreage involved,
the di lemma :. over the cost, the amount of funds the City currently has, and where
the difference would come from to meet the annual payments for the next three years.
It was generally agreed that Mr. Hawkins would ask the owner of the 54.3 acres to
agree to the terms of $105,000 for the property, $60,000 down and the balance spread
over three-year period in annual installments, and Mr. Schrantz will check to be sure
the number of acres involved and the amount of lowland is correct. There was also
discussion on the suggestion of not purchasing the entire 54.3 acres but of taking off
5, 10, or 15 acres, possibly in the southern area. Mr. Hawkins was authorized to make
that suggestion to the owners as well.
Before taking any action on the purchase of Mayor Windschitl's property, it was agreed
to wait to the ne~t Council meeting until more is known on the negotiations with
Programmed Land.
(Mayor Windschitl conducted the remainder of the meeting.)
APPOINTMENTS/HAZARDOUS WASTE COMMITTEE
Mayor Windschitl suggested the following be apPointed to the Hazardous Waste Committee:
Bert McElrath, Terry Kreeger, and Terry Reuther.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Knight, that we appoint the three people the Mayor
recommended for appointment to the Hazardous Waste Committee, those being Kreeger,
McElrath, and Reuther. Motion carried unanimously.
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
MOTION by Elling, Seconded by Knight, to approve Checks 6364 through 6420 for the
sum of $25,145.72. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 1:00 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Mar lla A. Peach
Recor "ng Secretary