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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSP April 27, 1982 ~ o¿ ANDOVER SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING - APRIL 27, 1982 MINUTES A Sp~cial Me~ting of the Andover City Council was called to order by Mayor Jerry Windschitl on April 27, 1982, 7:33 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW. Councilmen present: Jacobson, Lachinski, Orttel, Peach Councilmen absent: None Also present: City Engineer, James Schrantz; City Clerk, P. K. Lindquist; Members of the Road Improvement Committee; John Peterson of Good Value Homes; Glen Cook of Bonestroo, Rosene, and Anderlik; and interested residents GOOD VALUE HOMES - SPECIAL USE PERMIT (PUD)/NORTHGLEN II PRELIMINARY PLAT/VARIANCE Mayor Windschitl expressed concern over the large amount of park area that needs to to be filled and questioned whether the peat would be removed prior to filling to allow for the construction of structures, tennis courts, etc. Mr. Peterson didn't think the peat would be removed, but the area would be suitable for ballfields. Council dicussion with Mr. Peterson was on the depth of peat in various areas of the park as shown by the borings taken, the elevations of the area, and the amount of fill that would be required. Mr. Peterson stated that even with filling in the area for the park, the remaining area is easily large enough to support the storm drainage for their development. He also felt it is wise for them as developers and for the City to have a birm and spacing between the proposed Highway 116 and the housing units. Mr. Schrantz noted the southern tip of the park is part of the trail linkage system. Discussion was then on the location, as Mayor Windschitl felt a good argument could be made for having the park located just west of the first proposed development area. Councilman Orttel felt that the uses in the park would draw from outside the neighbor- hood and that it would then be advantageous to be located just off a major roadway such as the proposed Highway 116. Park Board member Glen Rogers also explained the reasoning behind the Park Board's decision to accept the proposed area as parkland. The question was brought up as to whether or not DNR permission is needed to fill the area to above the 870 elevation. Council generally felt that the park area should be filled to at least 870.6 feet prior to the finalizing of the first phase; and if DNR permission is needed but not granted, Good Value Homes would have to come back with another proposal. Mr. Schrantz explained they have made a 50-foot wide street for Northglen Parkway. The roadbed is the same width as was originally proposed as a private street; however, additional easement was added on either side of the roadbed. The setbacks of the buildings are not the normal setbacks, but in a PUD those can be varied. Council also noted that the radius on the right of way for corner lots needs to be shown. Discussion was on a surmountable curb versus B6l8 curbs. Council generally felt that the City's current standards of B6l8 curbs should be used in the development. It was also noted that should a problem occur with traffic using the road through the development rather than the proposed Highway 116, it could be controlled with the placement of stop signs in various locations. MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, introducing Resolution R18-82 for Good Value Homes as presented with the one change at the bottom of Page 1 under No. 1 which presently reads "That Special Use Permit be granted to Good Value Homes, Inc., for the constructi on of townhouses" and after the word townhouses i nc lude "and quadramin i um units" and then !t:ontinue on "upon all lots of the preliminary plat of Northglen Second Addition as shown on the attached map of Northglen Second Addition Planned Unit Development, which is hereby labeled Exhibit A and attached." On Page 2, Subsection 5 on the bottom of the page at the end of the sentence "...with the exception that Good Value will be allowed to build as a model home one quadraminium unit prior to the incorporation of Item No.5, Final Approval". And that the following be attached to the Resolution: Special City Council Meeting April 27, 1982 - Minutes Page 2 (Good Value Homes, Continued) / (Motion by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, continued) Exhibit A, concept map; Exhibit B, map of the park; Exhibit C, Townhomes; Exhibit D, drawings of interior floor plans; Exhibit E, exterior of quadraminiums; and Exhibit F, conceptual landscape plans. (See Resolution R18-82) Motion carried unanimously. Discussion was on the Northglen II preliminary plat and again on the park elevation and fill required. (Councilman Peach responded to a fire call at this time, 8:22 p.m.) MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, introducing a Resolution approving the Preliminary Plat of Northglen II submitted by Good Value Homes as prepared with the addition of: WHEREAS the land shown to be dedicated for parks is currently below those standards for parkland considered desirable by the City of Andover, the developer will fill those areas as described in Exhibit B, parkland grading plan under the PUD Special Use Permit to a minimum elevation of 870~ feet with stable fill from areas other than inside the park itself, and that these improvements shall be completed at the time the final plat is filled; and if it is not possible to obtain necessary permits to accomplish this grading plan, that the developer would be required to provide other suitable parkland for the plat. (See Resolution R19-82) Motion carried on a 4-Yes, l-Absent (Peach) vote. MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Lachinski, that the City Council, City of Andover, grant a variance to Good Value Homes from Ordinance 10, Section 9.03, requiring the developer to plat all of the contiguous property for reasons stated by the Planning and Zoning Commission; and this variance is for Northglen Second Addition Planned Unit Development. (See Resolution R20~82) Motion carried on a 4-Yes, l-Absent (Peach) vote. Mr. Peterson expressed his appreciation for the respect and skill of the Council and thanked them for the spirit in which they worked with Good Value Homes He also stated the market conditions will affect their development, although it is their intent to proceed with their developments in Andover. (Councilman Peach returned at this time, 8:31 p.m.) FEASIBILITY ON MSAH STREET SYSTEM Glen Cook of Bonestroo, Rosene, Anderlik & Associates, presented a proposed Agenda and information sheets listing functional classification system criteria for roadways, the existing roadway segments in Andover which are a problem for City maintenance and affect the greatest number of residents, and the suggested street corridors which should be preserved for future development. -Mr. Cook first reviewed the existing roadway segments noting the cost figures given are only rough estimates based on the cost of $320,000 per mile. Council noted that l46th Lane NW between Prairie Road and Evergreen Street and lS9th Avenue from Seventh Avenue to Oneida Street have already been improved. Mr. Schrantz stated he gave the -list to Mr. Cook as those roadways which service major residential areas and had failed to note that those streets have already been improved. His reason for noting these roadway segments is to show the Council that several short sections of roadways to serve residential areas could be improved with MSAH funds in the next year or two to achieve better access to those developments for the residents and for principal access for fire protection. It is possible to build segments of already designated MSAH roads rather than commit all the MSAH funds for the next few years on one major road project. Special City Council Meeting April 27, 1982 - Minutes Page 3 (Feasibility on MSAH Street System, Continued) Mr. Cook noted these would typically be local collector streets that would handle probably up to 1,000 vehicles daily, would have right-of-way widths of 70 to 100 feet".and would basically be to provide access from the homes in the area to the main arterial streets. Mr. Schrantz stated the roads that are the most maintenance problems are l6lst from Round Lake to Tulip, l73rd, l65th, Roanoke Street to Yakima, and lS7th west of Holly to Prairie Road, and the east end of South Coon Creek Drive. He also felt that somewhere between l70th and l73rd a crossover should be made to satisfy the need up there. He hoped that once the problem areas are identified, MSAH funds can be used to solve some of those problems in a year. Barb Dehn, 1645 Tulip - was concerned if l6lst is improved the only people who would be assessed would be two property owners because the houses on the other side do not front on the road. She also asked how wide the road would have to be. Discussion noted that the present policy is not to assess for MSAH improvements; however, there has been discussions on changing it. The improvement would consist of a 24-foot bituminous mat with 8-foot shoulders. Mrs. Royce Bennett - asked about the drainage on l6lst, as at previous meetings there was talk of having the drainage come into their potato field. She stated the drainage used to go to the field that is now park on the south side of the road, but it no longer goes there since the park was filled. Mr. Schrantz thought the drainage would go toward Round Lake Boulevard. Mrs. Bennett - also noted that the road as presently traveled is not on center and was concerned about the large trees alongside it now. Councilman Orttel also noted if any damage is caused by the drainage, the property owner would have to be reimbursed. Mrs. Dehn - stated as that road has been built up and the area developed, the drainage pattern has been changed, and she also expressed concern over the drainage if l6lst were paved. Mrs. Schrantz then reported that since the last meeting, the Fire Department has looked at locating a northwest fire station in the area of Seventh Avenue and Highway 58, which would eliminate the need to construct a road in the area of l6Sth between Round Lake Boulevard and Highway 58. Mr. Schrantz went on to explain the service areas of a proposed northwest fire station, a northeastern station, and a main fire station in the area of Bunker Lake Boulevard and Crosstown Boulevard, which would then essentially cover the entire City in the most efficient manner. And it appears that the overall plan for fire protection and the street needs of the City overlap. The roads listed are those that are important to access into the community for fire and emergency service and for neighborhood traffic access. And a majority of them are also MSAH streets. After Council discussion on the existing roadway segments serving residential areas, it was agreed to add the following two streets to the list: No. 11, l73rd between Round Lake Boulevard and County Road 58; and No. 12, Univesrity Avenue from lSOth south to Andover Boulevard. It was also noted that there are discussions with the City of Ham Lake to jointly designate University Avenue Extension as an MSAH street next year. Discussion was then on the procedure for prioritizing the improvement of existing roadway segments and on ideas for assessing MSAH improvements. Mrs. Bennett noted that property in Green Acres that is assessed must still pay the interest on the assessment yearly, which would mean the assessment would double in ten years' time. Mayor Windschitl noted that in the past the City has made every effort to not assess farmland for improvements. A gentleman then stated he was assessed for the street improvement on l79th in Alladin Acres for lS~ acres of swampy area. Special City Council Meeting April 27, 1982 - Minutes Page 4 (Feasibility on MSAH Street System, Continued) Discussion continued on establishing a policy for assessing MSAH roads, as at this time a majority of the Council indicated they felt the properties adjoining MSAH streets should be assessed something. The problem was agreeing on a fair and equitable assessment for the varying land uses. Arguments against an assessment for MSAH streets were that typically people who use the road to get to their residences want the road paved but people who actually live on it do not want it paved; that the disadvantages of MSAH streets for residents living on them is the nuisance factor of increased traffic, speed, and noise; and that very often residents living on those streets have larger than average lots or farmland and don't benefit as much. It was also noted that very often MSAH roads are built to higher standards and would have a greater storm drainage cost than typical residential streets. With these thoughts in mind, the Council discussed several suggested assessment methods. MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, that the City Council obtain estimates for a feasibility study on lS7th Avenue, Crosstown Boulevard to Holly Street, approximately 1/2 mile; and for Prairie Road from Andover Boulevard to the tarred area north of Coon Creek, approximately .2 miles; for l6lst Avenue; and for l73rd. DISCUSSION was that feasibility studies have been done for Prairie Road, l6lst and l73rd which only need to be updated. The intent is the Council will look at the costs for each of the roads and then make a determination as to which ones should be done and in what order. It was also agreed that rather than ordering the feasibility studies done at this time, Mr. Schrantz would provide the estimated costs of doing a feasibility study for lS7th and review the feasibility studies for the other three roads. Motion carried unanimously. Discussion returned to establishing an assessment policy for MSAH streets, again arguing for or against specific policies suggested and assessing in general. Various suggestions were to charge $23 FF for residential streets; to set footage lirrits of a maximum of 300 feet and a minimum of 85 feet with every landowner abutting a project being charged for one unit; to establish the assessment based on a small percentage of the project . costs; or to charge $10 FF for rural streets and $15 FF for urban street sections. MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Peach, that the Assessment Policy for Municipal State Aid Streets is to be that we do not charge landowners for the construction of the roads. AMENDMENT by Peach, Seconded by Jacobson, that the Andover MSA Assessment Policy is that landowners not be assessed more than the cost of land acquisition. VOTE ON AMENDMENT: YES-Jacobson, Lachinski, Peach, Windschitl; NO-Orttel Amendment carried. Councilman Jacobson clarified the motion to read: that the Assessment Policy for Municipal State Aid Streets is to be that we do not charge landoWAers for the construction of the roads except for cost of right-of-way acquisition. Second stands. AMENDMENT by Lachinski, Seconded by Peach, that we exclude commercial and industrial properties from further consideration in this motion. VOTE ON AMENDMENT: YES-Jacobson, Lachinski, Peach, Windschit1; NO-Orttel Amendment carried. VOTE ON MOTION: YES-Jacobson, Lachinski, Peach, Windschitl; NO-Orttel as he felt there should be some assessment against abutting properties. Motion carried. --- -.- - ~. -- Special City Council Meeting April 27, 1982 - Minutes Page 5 (Feasibility on MSAH Street System, Continued) MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Jacobson, that we assess commercial and industrial property 50 percent of the cost of MSA improvements. DISCUSSION: The intent is those properties zoned commercial and industrial at the time of the improvement will be assessed. Motion carried unanimously. MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 10:14 p.m. Respectfully submitted, '.\ ~._..... ~ \ I~~ C'-- 't;L~ Marc lla A. Peach Recording Secretary -- - .