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~ 01 ANDOVER
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - MARCH 17, 1981
AGENDA
l. Call to Order - 7:30 P.M.
2. Resident Forum
3. Agenda Approval
4. Discussion Items
a. Sketch Plan/Creekside
b. Variance/Rademacher
c. White Oaks Country Estates/Feasibility Study
d. Unit/Front Foot Assessment Policy
e. Approval Resident Letters/1979-2, 1980-1, 1980-2
f. Water Meter Quotations/Funding
g. Water Meter Ordinance
h. Green Acres Traffic Report
1. 1980-3 Pumphouse No. l/Chg. Order #3
j. CIP - MSAH Designations
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5. Non-Discussion Items
a. Date/Trunk Sewer Assessment Policy Workshop
b. Resolution/Moratorium Adoption of Wetlands Map
c. Resolution/Approve Amendments to Compr~hensive Plan
d. Resolution/Request Continuation of CDBG Program
e. Date/Interview Park Board Applicants
f. Resolution/Allocate Housing Units
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6. Reports of Commissions, Committees, Boards
7. Approval of Minutes
8. Approval of Claims
9. Adjournment
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CITY 01 ANDOVER
M E M 0 RAN 0 U M
TO: MAYOR AND COUNCIL
COPIES TO: STAFF ENGINEER, ATTORNEY
FROM: ACTING ADMINISTRATOR
DATE: MARCH 13, 1981 -
RE FE RENCE: AGENDA INFORMATION - MARCH 17, 1981
Item No. 3 - Agenda Approval
Please add Item No. 4-k (Dog Ordinance) .
Item No. 4a - Sketch Plan/Creekside
Enclosed is a copy of the proposed plat. This has not gone to th.e
Planning and Zoning Commission and is on the agenda for Council and
Staff comments prior to P&Z review.
Item No. 4b - Variance/Radeœacher
Attached is the Planning & Zoning Commission recommendation for
approval. A resolution will be prepared granting such approval
based on P&Z recommendation.
Item No. 4c - White Oaks Feasibility Study
TO-date this study has not been completed for Council presentation.
Item No. 4-d, 4e, 4f, 4g, 4h, 4i.
See item 4c.
Item No. 4j- CIP-MSJl.H Designations
The Capital Improvements Committee met on March 10. (Minutes enclosed).
The MSAH designations and proposed imrpovements were discussed. The
Committee would like to receive Council agreempnt on the designations
before proceeding with additional work.
Item No. 4k - Dog Ordinance
A call was received from the Animal Control people today relating to some
of the provisions in this Ordinance. Section 9-The new ordinance
requires the dogs to be held a tctal of seven (7)days if the sixth (6 )
day falls on a Saturday or Sunday. The pound is open on both Saturdays
and Sunday, therefore, a dog could be r€claimed at that time. Board
fees are $4.00 per day which would cost the City an additional $8.00
per dog in these situations. Presently, all animals are kept for 5 days
(this is a Statuatory requirement) . Would recommend amending the
ordinance to read:the ~ame, except delete the last line of SectiQn 9.
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Item No. 4k - Dog Ordinance (continuedì
Section 11: This section relating to "excluding Sundays and Holidays"
would also have to be deleted. None of our poundmasters have ever
charged a "disposal fee"; they have been allowed to keep whatever is
received over and above the actual costs. This was felt to be sufficient
to cover their costs for the handling of the dog, i.e. , showing to
a prospective buyer or disposal. This eliminates the need for a lot
of bookwork on the City's part. If the Council would like to change
this, it is recommended that the Section be completely deleted.
(I believe this is also covered in State Regulations.)
Item No. 5a - Date/Trunk Sewer Assessment POlicy Work Session
You received a copy of the proposed changes as presented by Springsted, Inc.
It is recommended a meeting be set up to review the changes and answer
questions. The work on this proposal has been done by Springsted, Inc. ,
TKDA and myself, therefore, we would all be at that meeting.
Item NO. Sb - Moratorium of Wetlands Map
You have received a memorandum from me relating to the County's
recommendation that each City request a one-year moratorium for the
adoption of the Official Wetlands Map. A resolution will be prepared.
Item No. Sc - Resolution/Approve Amendments to Comprehensive Plan
You have received under separate cover, the amendments proposed by
TKDA for the CDP. It appears they are in order as discussed at the
Joint Meeting with M.C./City Council on February 9.
Item No. 5d - Resolution/Request Continuation of CDBG Program
Included in the memorandum noted under Item Sb are cowments on the
continuation of the Community Development Block Grant Program. A
resolution will be prepared.
Item No. 5e - Date/Interview Park Board Applicants
Enclosed are three applications. Another one is expected to be received
on Monday, March. 16.
Item No. Sf - Resolution/Allocate Housing Units
Enclosed is correspondence from J.F. Wethington, M.D., along with a
copy of the resolution adopted by the City of Coon Rapids.
Dr. Wethington is Chairmar. of the Cowmittee for the construction of
, Senior Citizen/Handicapped Housing Facility. The building is to be
èonstructed in Coon Rapids, therefore, they are requesting that the
:ity of Andover allocate to them, the two units set aside for A~dover;
nd an endorsement of the proposal. A resolution will be prefàred
imilar to the one from Coon Rapids.
temoNo. 7 - Approval of Minutes \~))
nuary 13, March 3.
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~ 01 ANDOVER
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING - MARCH 17, 1981
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover City Council was called to order by
Mayor Jerry Windschitl on March 17, 1981, 7:30 p.m., at the Andover City Hall,
1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Anoka, Minnesota.
Councilmen present: Jacobson, Lachinsk i, Ortte 1, Peach
Councilmen absent: None
Also present: City Attorney, William G. Hawkins; City Engineer, Larry
Winner; TKDA Engineer, Mark Schumacher; City Clerk, P. K.
Lindquist; and others
RESIDENT FORUM
Rosella Sonsteby - asked that the Council consider her plat of Rosella's Addition
again. She cited the decisions made by the Council relative to parkland dedication for
the Johnson's Field Plat and for the Good Value Homes Northglen Plat. She has 14.06
acres platted in singles and doubles. She gave an easement for trunk sewer and
utilities of 1.6 acres, plus the City is asking for park of 1.46 acres, plus she will
be paying a considerable sum in assessments. She considers that a financial hardship.
She stated she was denied any of the considerations given other developers relative to
credit for easement and financial hardship. She now has another proposed area for a
park in Rosella's Addition; and if it is not satisfactory, she felt she should be able
to give money in lieu of land for park dedication. (The item was added to the Agenda.)
Gordon Robinson, 13788 Crocus Street NW - asked the City's plans for the lot owned by
the Clty of Andover adjacent to his property. He had heard there was going to be
some discussion on it at the meeting. Mayor Windschit1 stated that to date the City
has no plans for that property; however, it is adjacent to the sketch plan of Creekside
which will be discussed this evening.
Charlie Veiman, 13646 Crooked Lake Boulevard - brought to the Council's attention that
when the Clty buys tires, etc., Hennepin County and other metro areas have a bid program
so that there is a special pricing for the City, which is a considerable savings. If
the City wants this information, he~an provide the liter. ature, pricing structure, and
prices. The Clerk was directed t contact Mr. Veiman for that information.
Frank Padula, 4550 173rd Avenue NW - was before the Planning and Zoning Commission last
week to discuss applying for a zonin change to allow a Polish restaurant on the corner
of 173rd and Seventh Avenue, and he asked the Council's reaction to such a zoning.
The restaurant would seat about 100 people and would be in the northern tier of the City.
It would add some tax to the City and\ could employ approximately 15 people't "Jr. Padula
stated he has discussed the sanitary sewer problem and felt an adequate1é~ãT8~e built,
noting there are many other larger reïaurants and facilities functioning with on-site
sewer systems. (This item was also added to the Agenda for further discussion.)
l\GENDA APPROVAL
10TION by Peach, Seconded by Orttel, t~e approval of the Agenda as published with the
tddition of 4k, Dog Ordinance; 41, Ros~11a's Addition Proposal; 4m, Padula Restaurant;
nd the deletion of 4e. Motion carried\ unanimously.
)TION by Jacobson, Seconded by Lachinski, that we suspend the rules. Motion carried
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Regular City Council Meeting
March 17. 1981 - Minutes
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SKETCH PLAN/CREEKSIDE
Jerry Green, property owner - stated at this time he does not intend to plat the total
area but would like to proceed in two phases. He presently plans to plat the seven
lots that adjoin l38th, Lots 1 - 7, Block 1; but he is providing the proposal as an
overall concept for that area.
Council made the following comments on the sketch plan:
Variances may be needed for Lots 10 and 11, plus some by the creek, which appear to
be more than twice the size of the average lot size. Variances may also be needed for
Lot 1 fronting on County Road 18 and for Lot 10 on Brunker lake Boulevard.
Crocus Street should probably be constructed as a full street for the continuance of
Crocus into the Northwoods plat.
An adjustment will be necessary where Northwood Drive meets 138th.
Mr. Green noted that this area has been previously assessed by the Coon Creek Watershed.
The Watershed reviewed the plan when it was originally drawn. He received an additional
assessment at that time to drain the additional land not previously assessed when the
ditch was built. That has been paid and all requirements have been fulfilled.
Mr. Green felt that park dedication could be negotiated with the City. The sketch plan
does not provide for land dedication. It was agreed that Mr. Green should meet with
the Park Board on the matter. There may also be some complications on park dedication
if the plat is filed in stages.
There was concern on Lot 2 at the intersection of 138th and County Road 18 as to where
the driveway would come out so it is not too close to the corner.
Lot 1 going to the County Road needs to receive approval from the Anoka County Highway
Department.
The naming of the streets and the break between Crocus and Northwood Drive would be
calculated according to the City's policy.
Some questioned if park dedication based on the value of the gross area, including
Mr. Green's private residence, is the wisest way to handle the dedication. The existing
residence may be made an exception from the plat. The residence lot also ends up being
a double frontage lot, which isn't legal. Mr. Hawkins stated the main purpose for
including the residence in the plat would be to simplify the legal description.
VARIANCE/RADEMACHER
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, a Resolution approving a Variance from the
provision of Ordinance No.8, Section 6.D2, rear yard setback, for Wayne Rademacher,
Lot 1, Block 2, Andover Shopping Center; note a typographical error on second line --
rear yard. (See Resolution R1Z-81) Motion carried unanimously.
WHITE OAKS COUNTRY ESTATES/FEASIBILITY STUDY
Mr. Winner reviewed the Feasibility Study for the street improvement of those streets
in White Oaks Country Estates and 172nd Avenue from Round lake Boulevard to that sub-
division, noting there are 38 parcels abutting the improvement; that it is anticipated
no further easements or right of ways will be needed; that the existing gravel on the
roads are one to five inches thick; that the proposal is to widen the street to 32 feet
with 24 feet of pavement and 4-foot gravel shoulders; that some driveways may need to
have culverts installed with those costs borne entirely by the property owner involved
and which are not calculated in his figures; that the project could be completed by the
TIidd1e of August; that the total estimated cost of the project is $127,900; that the
1djusted front footage method of assessment would amount to approximately $10.30 per
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March 17, 1981 - Minutes
Page 3
(White Oaks Country Estates/ Feasibility Study, Continued)
adjusted front foot; and that the cost on a unit assessment would be approximately
$3,365 per lot. Mr. Winner also reviewed the estimated annual payments of the
assessment for each method assessed over a 10-year period. Also, he did not include
the park property as an assessable parcel because it is a permanent drainage area and
will most likely be a public wetland.
Mr. Winner stated he did not figure the gross acreage of the lots, but he felt they
were all very close to the same size. Also, he assumed that Parcels 2455 and 2425
have been subdivided. In checking with Burton Kraabel to do the grading and graveling,
he found that the prices were similiar to what general contractors have bid to do the
entire project. Asphalt prices are based on H & S Asphalt's prices. And the restora-
tion prices are based on seeding and on what has been done in the past. It was noted
that at the public hearing, residents should be made fully aware of the restoration
procedure. Mr. Winner also explained he felt the existing Class Five could be used
for the shoulders with the additional new Class Five gravel being used for the road bed
under the bituminous.
Ed Fiori, , 3045 l72nd Avenue NW - when the petition was presented to the residents,
the figure was shown on a per-lot basis. He felt assessing on an acreage basis is an
excellent approach. However, he has 4.8 acres of which about 1.3 acres is full public
easement. He asked when the acreage is considered, will the easements be subtracted
from the total acreage?
Harvey Kadlec, 16970 Crocus Street NW - agreed that the assessment should be on the unit
basls rather than front footage as he felt it would be the most fair way to do it.
Tom Cebulla, 16981 Crocus Street - said "Thanks" and felt it was a job well done.
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Jacobson, that we accept the feasibility report as
presented by the City Engineer and set a public hearing date for April 7, 1981, for the
1981 Street Improvement Project No. 1 on the 172nd and White Oaks area, and that we
authorize the Clerk to notify the property owners of the public meeting.
MOTION CHANGED by Lachinski to set date on April 2. Second still stands.
MOTION AGAIN CHANGED by Lachinski, to set date on April 8. Second still stands.
(See Resolution R13-81) Motion carried unanimously.
Discussion with Mr. Cebu11a was on the procedure that will follow. Council generally
felt an additional petition would be helpful and that the price of the project is
very reasonable. But some indicated that a majority of the residents would need to
react favorably on the project before they would approve it.
UNIT/FRONT FOOT ASSESSMENT POLICY
MOTION by Ortte1, Seconded by Peach, that the White Oaks Estates project as ordered
for the public hearing be considered as being assessed should the project proceed on
a unit basis rather than the front footage basis, excepting any additional costs
having to do with culverts in driveways. DISCUSSION; Councilman Lachinski felt that
this may be gOing to far in the other direction relative to the very large or very small
lots in the project. He felt the special conditions may have to be addressed relative
to the extremes; and he felt there should be some inbetween way of doing it, possibly
looking at the acreage of the lots. Other Councilmen questioned the justification of
charging more for a 3~-acre lot than for a 2~-acre lot since each has one residence
and the large lot is not subdividable, that the benefit is virtually the same; generally
feeling that the lots of the extreme, either very large or very small, be looked at
individually. It was felt that other criteria be taken into consideration other than
Regular City Council Meeting
March 17, 1981 - Minutes
Page 4
(Unit/Front Foot Assessment Policy, Continued)
the number of lots divided by total cost. Mr. Winner is to look at the unit assessment;
and if there are some glaring inequities in either direction, they should be addressed
separately. The Council directed Mr. Winner to have the figures for a unit assessment
to the Council for the next meeting. Motion carried unanimously.
WATER METER QUOTATIONS/FUNDING
Mr. Winner reviewed his March 13, 1981,memo of the quotations. warranties,
recommendation, and comparing the feasibility of computerized billing system versus
manual billing. However, Mr. Winner has since found that the figures he used to make
that comparison were inaccurate, and that the cost of the magnetic tape recorder is
$2,000 rather than the $500 he used for his calculations. That would then calculate
to a 17-year payback for that ARB system. Davies Water Equipment has done their own
cost analysis on the system which differs from his.
Bob Polston, Davies Water EqUi~ment Company - stated he had talked with a number of
utilities using all three bran s of meters; and there is a 15- to 20-percent failure
rate over 20 years on outside units for all brands. He initially proposed the ARB
system because the City is going to a new system and it has an opportunity to utilize
this at a higher cost initially, but overall very cost effectively. He also stated
that Badger is bidding on plastic meters. He felt the Council should consider the
scrap metal of the bronze meters in 20 years, which today is about $4 per unit. The
plastic has virtually no scrap value.
There was a very lengthy discussion on the analysis of the electromagnetic units versus
the ARB system; on some of the disadvantages of using a plastic meter; some feeling
the wages for manpower to manually read meters would be substantially greater than
if it were read by a remote reader; that the savings would be greater as the system
grows; that there is some reason to believe that electronic devices are more accurate
than mechanical deviçes; with Mr. Polston stating that thf6~ ~~ a~~~atl~ ~M error
factor of less than one percent maintenance failure rat~, w i ein u X t tied together
with the error in reading problems.
There was a clarification on the unit prices, with Mr. Polston stating that the unit
price on the ARB unit is $49.95, and $40.25 on the regular meter, but the horn is an
additional get cost of $11.70. That makes the prices of $61.65 for the ARB unit and
$51.95 for the regular meter. Mr. Polston also stated that the City can use the ARB
system without having to use the recorder at this time or using a computer billing
system. And at some point in the future, the City could simply purchase the tape
recorder and then place all billings on an automated billing system. But the reader
is needed at this time. They have a service bureau that processes the tapes for
billing at the cost of 28 cents per bill per billing period and with an initial start-
up cost of 28 cents per account. The system can also be programmed to flag obvious
errors, and generally flags those readings of 50 percent over or under previous readings.
It has a 10-year guarantee on parts and labor.
Ray Sowada, Public Works, stated that on the meters he is familiar with, the outside
readings were always off the 15 percent from the inside readings. He asked Mr. Polston
who installs the unit outside the house. Mr. Polston stated it would be installed by
whomeverwould be doing it ordinarily; that it is no different than the regular remote
meter; and that it would still be under warranty if the City installs the unit.
Oiscussion was on the total cost to purchase all the equipment needed; however, the
Engineer had not calculated that figure for this meeting. He was suggesting purchasing
100 residential meters, 10 commercial meters, and one hydrant meter. Mr. Polster
also stated that since the ARB system was introduced, there has been no great price
increase in the units other than the normal annual increases. Rockwe 11 :a1so makes a
simi1iar ARB system with magnetic tape, but their prices are higher.
Regular City Council Meeting
March 17, 1981 - Minutes
Page 5
(Water Meter Quotations/Funding, Continued)
Mr. Winner also explained the problems other cities are having with the plastic meters.
It was generally felt that the City should not consider the plastic meters and felt
that at least with the bronze, there is salvage value. Council also generally favored
the ARB system because of its accuracy and ability to go with computerized billing.
It was agreed to allow time for the engineer to determine the costs of what will be
needed. Discussion on this item was continued to later in the meeting.
1980-3 PUMP HOUSE NO. l/CHANGE ORDER #3
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Ortte1, Change Order No.3 to Johnson Engineering, Inc.,
for Pumphouse No.1, City of Andover, to make the following change to the contract
dated November 25, 1980; thi s change order will decrease the contract sum by $1,768
for a revised contract amount of $154,921.l8. Motion carried unanimously.
1980-3 PUMPHOUSE NO. l/CHANGE ORDER #4
Mr. Winner explained that the Change Order is to extend the completion of the pumphouse
to May 1, 1981.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Ortte1, Change Order No.4 to Johnson Engineering, Inc.,
for Pumphouse No.1, City of Andover, changes to the contract dated November 25, 1980;
the Change Order will not change the sum of the contract which remains at $154,921.18
after Change Orders Nos. 1, 2, 3, and 4. Motion carried unanimously.
RESOLUTION/ALLOCATE HOUSING UNITS
Jerry Green, representing Epiphany Senior Citizens Housing Corporation, understood that
the allocation given by the Metropolitan Council is good through September, 1981.
There are 16 units allocated to the City of Coon Rapids, but communities considered will
be Andover, Anoka, Coon Rapids, Blaine, Fridley, Spring Lake Park, for a total of 78
units, two of which are allocated to the City of Andover. It will be built as a
community endeavor and will be used on a first-come, first-serve basis for anyone wanting
to use that home. It will be a non-denominational home. The project has been sponsored
by the Church of the Epiphany, but there is a non-profit corporation being established,
hopefully funded by HUD. It will be a subsidized program but will pay real estate taxes.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Orttel, approval of Resolution of support for the
subsidized Senior Housing on the Church of Epiphany in Coon Rapids as presented. (See
Resolution R14-81) Motion carried unanimously.
Recess at 9:02; reconvene at 9:13 p.m.
GREEN ACRES TRAFFIC REPORT
Reference the March 13, 1981, memo from Mr. Winner relative to the Green Acres Traffic
Report.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Ortte1, that we approve the installation of "rumble
strips" at 141st Avenue NW and Ivywood Street NW and the installation of signs at that
same location, the cost not to exceed $500; and to include a second location at 140th
Avenue and Crocus and price not to exceed $1,000 for both. DISCUSSION: For the first
location the recommendation was curve signs; some felt yield signs could be investigated.
The recommendation for the second location was to replace those stop signs that have been
in that area, but Mr. Winner is to review the area and install whatever he feels is
appropr i ate.
ADDITION TO MOTION by Jacobson, in the second location, the appropriate sign, whatever
that may be. Second still stands. Motion carried unanimously.
Regular City Council /1eeting
March 17, 1981 - Minutes
Page 6
WATER METER QUOTATIONS/FUNDING, CONTINUEO
Oiscussion was on the items needed and the costs. No decision was made as to where the
funds for the items would come from; that determination to be made after reviewal of
the Water Meter Ordinance. Some on the Council also felt that it would not be necessary
to order the tape recorder at this time.
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Peach, that the Council recognize the quotations for
lndivldual water meters from the following firms: Neptune with the bronze unit for
$52.04 each; Rockwell with bronze unit for $52.39 each, and Badger with a plastic unit
for $51.66 each; and award the contract for 100 individual water meters to Davies Water
Equipment Company for the Neptune ARB water meter system with remote readout at a total
cost of $61.65, and also for 10 commercial water meters with readout for total amount
of $2,500, one hydrant water meter for $415, and other miscellaneous items necessary to
complete the installations of these units; note that the bid is awarded on the basis
of the electronic reading device with the feeling being that it provides a more accurate
record of the amount of water used. I'd also like to note that in the bid we are
including one electronic digital reader for the amount of $400. Motion carried
unanimously.
CIP - MSAH DESIGNATIONS
Councilman Lachinski felt that before Mr. Winner proceeds with figures and analysis of
the proposed MSAH designations, that the Council again look at the proposals. Mayor
Windschitl felt that the Road Committee should review the map before the Council
comments further. The Council did not receive the Engineer's memo relative to these
proposals.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Lachinski, that Item 4j, MSAH Designations, to the
Road Committee for consideration. Motion carried unanimously.
DOG ORDINANCE
There was some discussion about the possibility of regulating cats either under this
ordinance or under a separate ordinance. The Clerk is to talk with the County for
additional information and ideas.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Ortte1, that the Clerk draft the proposed changes so we
can look at it for the next meeting. Motion carried unanimously.
ROSELLA'S ADDITION PROPOSAL
Ms. Sonsteby proposed an alternate plan for park dedication, that being Lot 9, Block 1,
south of 142nd, which has 85 feet of frontage and is 50,000 square feet. That is short
13,000 square feet for full parkland dedication; however, she then suggested that
additional land be dedicated from outside the plat which is adjacent to Lot 9 to the
south and which would add on another 2.2 acres totalling 3.47 acres. It could also be
tied into the Good Value property to the south of it. That is more than what she is
required to dedicate at this time, but possibly in the future it would count toward
dedication as other property is developed. If this is not an acceptable proposal, she
would prefer a cash dedication instead. It was her opinion that the land is all high
with no standing water, and she invited the Council and Park Board to inspect it. To
her knowledge the area has never been under water. Ms. Sonsteby also explained that
the ditch was dug in 1958 and was 5 feet deep; there is now approximately 6 to 8 inches
of standing water in it. She was concerned that the contractor for the project will
be leaving next week, and she wanted to settle the park issue so they could work on her
property before leaving. She felt it was a financial hardship on her to give up more
than four lots and to have to pay sewer, water, and street assessments on all that
frontage.
Regular City Council Meeting
March 17, 1981 - Minutes
Page 7
(Rosella's Addition Proposal, Continued)
The Council's concern was that the majority of that portion south of the plat is within
the floodplain or designated as swamp according to the elevation maps. It was also noted
that the area has been removed from the County's proposed Wetlands Map of the City but
that it was included in the DNR's wetlands map. Also, the area would be subject to
the City's Floodplain Ordinance, which may have some effect on usage of the area.
Bill LeFebvre, Park Board Chairman, stated that there is no parkland in that area,
and the idea was to put the park in the northern portion of the plat to accommodate
both developments. By moving the park to Lot 9, he felt the residents in Auditor's
Sub. 82 would again be demanding land for a park in their area. He was also concerned
about the lowland being proposed and about the possibilities of being able to tie into
the land in the future as the surrounding property develops.
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Lachinski, that the Rosella's Addition proposal be forwarded
to the Park Board for their recommendations. DISCUSSION: It was agreed to receive
Park Board opinion prior to the Council taking any action on it; that the item can be
on this Thursday's Park Board Agenda; that it should be kept in mind that the theory of
park dedication is to provide park space for the area being developed; that a large
consideration is the usability of the property for park purposes, especially in light
of the floodplain through the area; and that Mr. Schumacher will ask the contractor if
he would work on that property for the same unit contract price. Motion carried
unanimously.
PADULA RESTAURANT OISCUSSION
Frank Padula provided a sketch of his proposal and asked the Council's opinion for a
rezoning to Neighborhood Business of five acres on 173rd and Seventh Avenue. He is
planning to construct a log building to fit into the environment, 36 feet wide and 80
feet long, for a family owned Polish restaurant, to feed 100 people. He is not particularly
concerned about serving liquor, but possibly wine and beer. It is high property and
all sand, and he does own more than the five acres being proposed for the rezoning. He
felt it would draw business from Andover, St. Francis, and Ramsey areas.
During the discussion that followed, the Council's main concern was on the ability to
satisfy the on-site sewage requirements for such a high-water usage business and to
accommodate an alternate sewage system if necessary; that the area is not within the
Scenic River zone; and that it is the Attorney's opinion that the rezoning could be tied
to the specific use of the land, in this case, a restaurant. Though the Council could
not make a decision on the rezoning, there was no expressed opposition except concern
over a sewage system, noting that there may be some objections from surrounding property
owners, which would be brought out at the public hearing. Also, Mr. Padula should
provide some engineering data showing he has the ability to handle theon-site sewage
system.
DATE/TRUNK SEWER ASSESSMENT POLICY WORKSHOP
There was some discussion on the figures presented, with Councilman lachinski asking for
those figures showing the anticipated extra income the fund balance will be deriving
until maturity. There was some confusion as to which monies would or may be used for
any refunds that may be given to those original projects and when those refunds could
be made. Discussion will continue in greater depth at a meeting to be set to meet with
representatives of Springsted and TKDA. Council also questioned the $15,000 shown in
the report to do the study.
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Orttel, that we set a date of March 23 to discuss the
flrst draft proposal of trunk sewer assessment policy and that Springsted, Inc., also
come with the pro-rated fund balances based on considering the interest accruals; and set
alternate date of the 31st. Motion carried unanimously.
Regular City Council Meeting
March 17; 1981 - Minutes
Page 8
RESOLUTION/MORATORIUM ADOPTION OF WETLANDS MAP
MOTION by Ortte1, Seconded by Peach, that we adopt a Resolution requesting the DNR to
delay adoption of the Official Wetlands Map for the City of Andover for a period of one
year as presented on 3/17/81. (See Resolution R15-8l) Motion carried unanimously.
RESOLUTION/APPROVE AMENOMENTS TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
Council agreed to the following changes on the maps presented by TKDA:
1) Change dates in both cases showing 1982-85 to the dates of 1981-85.
2) The map that shows the areas beyond 1990 for the Coon Rapids Interceptor should
show north of the creek only. Those areas south of the creek should be removed.
3) Correct the boundary of the Municipal Urban Service area to correlate with the
revisions made in 1980, especially in the northwestern portion of the MUSA.
Discussion was on the issue of asking that the area northwest of Round Lake proposed
to be developed as a regional park be added to the MUSA area in the hope that there would
then be a better chance to obtain grant monies for its development. Rather than make
that change now, which would also require eliminating an equal acreage from elsewhere
within the MUSA, it was agreed to take no further action at this time. The Clerk was
directed to research whether the City could apply for urban service grants if the land
is contiguous to the urban service area and when the grant applications must be in.
Mr. Schumacher also noted that Andover's Comprehensive Plan will be on the Physical
Development Committee's Agenda on April 2, 1981, and he felt the City should be
represented at that meeting.
MOTION by Ortte1, Seconded by Jacobson, that we approve the amendments to the Comprehensive
Plan having to do with public utilities staging as presented by TKDA on 3/17, with the
technical revisions as noted. (See Resolution R16-81) Motion carried unanimously.
RESOLUTION/REQUEST CONTINUATION OF CDSG PROGRAM
MOTION by Orttel, Seconded by Lachinski, that we adopt a Resolution requesting the
support of congressional and legislative representatives for the continuation of the
Community Development Block Grant Program as prepared and submitted. (See Resolution
R17-81) Motion carried unanimously.
DATE/INTERVIEW PARK BOARD APPLICANTS
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Peach, that we set a meeting to interview Park Board
members in the same evening as the meeting for the First Draft Proposal Trunk Sewer
Assessment POlicy. Motion carried unanimously.
PARK ANO RECREATION COMMISSION REPORT
Chairman LeFebvre wondered if there was a better way to determine the fair market value
of land being developed to make a determination for cash dedication for parks. He
expressed the problems the Park Commissioners face when making that determination.
Discussion noted that the ordinance sets forth the procedure to be used; that the County
should be able to provide a statement of value; that the City has had enough appraisals
on land acquired through eminent domain that a value could be derived from those figures;
and that the Clerk or City Attorney should be able to provide additional information for
the Commission if they request it.
Chairman LeFebvre asked that the Park Board be provided with copies of the Final Plats
after approva 1. The Clerk stated they can request more copies of the Final Plat with
one to be provided for the Park Board.
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Regular City Council Meeting
March 17, 1981 - Minutes
Page 9
(Park/Recreation Commission Report, Continued)
Chairman LeFebvre stated that the Commission has tentatively decided that the
development of the City Hall site would be the major priority. He also asked the
Council's opinion for the restoration of the school house on Andover Boulevard.
Discussion was that some funds were allocated for restoration in the past and suggested
the Commission contact Lyle Bradley of the Historical Committee on the matter.
Discussion was on the Rosella's Addition proposal for park dedication discussed earlier
in the evening in that the Park Board should review the proposal and make a recommenda-
tion back to the Council. Also, it was suggested that possibly the Park Board members
could view the property to see the land elevation.
FIRE DEPARTMENT REPORT
Fire Chief Bob Palmer reported that the Oak Grove Fire Department has asked to
temporarily store one of their vehicles in Andover's Fire Station. Discussion was on
the positioning of the trucks in the Fire Station and the problems that could occur.
MOTION by Jacobson, Seconded by Peach, that we authorize the Fire Department, at the
discretion of the Chief, to authorize the use of our building for the City of Oak
Grove for a limited time if, in the Chief's opinion, it will not hamper City of
Andover's operation in any way. Motion carried unanimously.
Chief Palmer stated that he has talked with the Chief of the St. Francis Fire Depart-
ment, who has shown an interest in signing a Mutual Aid Agreement with Andover. The
St. Francis Fire Department did assist Andover at the fires this Saturday. Council
generally had no problem with it if the fire fighters were willing to respond to St.
Francis for mutual aid.
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Ortte1, that the Chief be authorized to work up a Mutual
Aid Agreement with St. Francis for submission to the Council. Motion carried unanimously.
Chief Palmer also asked that the Department also get copies of the Final Plats so they
can keep their City map updated.
SEWAGE DUMPING STATION
Elmer Dargis, Ace Cesspool, 3927 157th Avenue NW - asked if anything has been done about
havlng a place in Andover for dumping sewage. Council discussion was that it was
generally decided that there was no place to have such a facility until there is an
extension of the sewer trunk line; that the City needs to have an area away from the
general public with more water flow; and that as the sewer is extended eastward, there
may be an area along the junkyard area, possibly in the same area where an additional
Fire Station would be located.
Mr. Dargis - stated that from all the people that would be using the facility, the
City could be generating from $20,000 to $25,000 rental from it each year, so it would
more than pay for the costs of putting in an additional manhole. Coon Rapids charges
$1.50 per load, and he felt Andover could charge even more. He felt that at a minimum,
five different companies would be using the facility. He would have at least 10 loads
a day.
It was felt this item should be looked at as part of the Capital Improvements Program,
and some decision could be made within the next four to six months.
APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Orttel, that we pay Checks Numbers 3891 through 3922 with
the exception of 3901, which is void, for a total of $14,443.43. Motion carried
unanimously.
Regular City Council Meeting
March 17, 1981 - Minutes
Page 10
(Approval of Claims, Continued)
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Ortte1, the approval of Check No. 451 to Anoka Electric
from 80-3 project for $671 and Check Number 452 to E. H. Renner and Sons for $27,708.72.
Motion carried unanimously.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
January 13, 1981 and March 3, 1981:
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Jacobson, that we approve the January 13 Minutes with
the correction of Page 1, Second Paragraph, last line, "enough equipment for two
tire stations..." -
VOTE ON MOTION: YES-Jacobson, Lachinski, Ortte1, Windschitl; PRESENT-Peach
Motion carried.
MOTION by Lachinski, Seconded by Peach, to approve the March 3 Regular City Council
Meeting Minutes. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Peach, Seconded by Ortte1, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 11:22 p.m.
r Respectfully submitted,
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Marcella A. Peach
Recording Secretary